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we'll see in the coming days if that olympic glow begins to fade. >> we'll see what follows that. thanks very much. that's it for me. thanks for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." erin burnett outfront starts right now. trump tiells the governors o stand up to the nra but is he taking his on advice. ivanka trump shutting down reporters asking about her father's sexual assault. i'm going to talk to man who is doing the questioning. let's go outfront. run sboning into the gunfir. president trump saying he would have run into the parkland high school shooting. calling the armed guard
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disgusting and a disgrace for staying outside during the massacre. >> you know i really believe, you don't know until you test it but i really believe i'd run even if i didn't have a weapon. >> i'd run in there. it's an incredibly bold statement. when the white house was asked if the president meant it, here's what happened. >> when the president said earlier today that he would have run into the school, was he suggesting that he could have saved the day? >> i think he was just stating that as a leader he would have stepped in and hopefully been able to help as a number of the vi individuals as the coach and other adults and a lot of students stepped up and helped protect other students. i think the point he was making is that he would have wanted to have played a role in that as well. >> is he trained in firing a weapon? is he trained in using handgun or firearm? >> i don't think that was the point he was making.
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he was saying he would be a leader and would want to take a courageous action. >> in the president wants to take a courageous action, he could start by standing up to the nra. tonight he says, he is. >> half of you are so afraid of the nra. there's nothing to be afraid. if they're not with you, we have to fight them every once in a while. they're doing what they think is right. they are doing what they think is right. sometimes we're going to have to be very tough and have to fight them. >> tough words. the president backed off a fight with the nra. this is what the president last week, one day after an emotional meeting with students and parents who lost loved ones in the shootings said. he tweeted i will be strongly pushing comprehensive background checks with an emphasis on mental health, raise age to 21 and end sale of bump stops. he raised this age issue specifically again in a weekend
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interview. >> perhaps we'll do something on age because it doesn't seem to make sense that you have to wait till you're 21 years old to get a pistol but to get a gun like this maniac used in the school, you get that at 18. that doesn't make sense. frankly i explained that to the nra. they're great people. >> it doesn't make sense. he wants to raise the age to 21. the nra has made it clear they couldn't disagree more on this point. >> he wants to raise that minimum age. will the nra back that? >> they have made their position incredibly clear. >> that position is incredibly clear. here is the exact statement. legislative proposals that prevent law-abiding adults age 18 to 21 years old prohibits them of purchasing a firearm thus depriving them of their
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constitutional right to self-protection. the nra clearly got to trump. today in a meeting with the white house the president did not mention raising the age to buy any gun to 21 even though he does so twice. didn't mention it at all and the silence was glaring. jim acosta asked sarah sanders about why the president didn't mention something he's been so outspoken and explicit about. >> can you specify the president did not mention whether he wants the age limit still lifted to 21. can you clarify if that's still his position? >> terms of the last question you had was the age limit. manag something is still being discussed. >> pretty sharp back down. did the nearly $31 million the
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nra contributed to help trump win the white house, buy his silence on something he said was so clear and now suddenly, he's silent on. jeff, the president getting push back from a lot of people today. >> reporter: he did meet with nation's governors. it brought him before an audience of democrats and republicans to get the first sense of what these nations, leaders say and really several people said they do not support the idea of arming school teachers. mr. president, first grade teachers do not want to be pistol packing first grade teachers. rick scott, a republican after he left the meeting, i said what do you think of this ? he said i do not think that's the way to handle it. it's clear the president is talking a lot object guns. we talked to his advisors.
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they say he's dead serious about doing something on this. the president will be having lawmakers on wednesday to talk through some of these issues. it's clear that of all the ideas the president is throwing out, he's focusing the most on arming school teachers and that seems to be one of the least popular proposals of all. erin. >> thank you very much. in parkland, the school resource officer criticized for his response to the shooting and the president called disgusting and a disgrace is speaking out for the first time. >> look peterson. look what he did in broward where he thought he was probably a brave guy but he wasn't a brave guy under pressure. he choked. >> reporter: as the president blasted his actions, scott peterson started fighting back. the former school resource
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officer saying he's not a coward and that attacks on his character are coming mostly from one source, broward sheriff scott israel. >> what i saw was a deputy arrive at the west side of building 12 take a position and he never went in. >> reporter: speaking through his attorney, peterson who resigned painted a very different picture of the first moments of high school shooting that left 17 people dead. he said he got a call of fire crackers. he believed the gunshots were originating from outside any of the building. the statement goes on. mr. peterson took a tactical position between the 700 and 800 building corridor corner.
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peterson's attorney said his client did take action saying he was the first to notify the sheriff's office and initiated a code red blockdown of the entire campus. let there be no mistake, mr. peterson wishes he could have prevented the untimely passing of the 17 victims on that day. fred guttenburg's daughter was murdered. he said peeterson's words changd nothing for him. >> nothing he said changes anything. he failed my kid. i know he didn't try. i'm not in the mood for sympathy. >> reporter: scott peterson is saying he looks forward to testifying and working the fdle. that's the florida department of law enforcement. the governor has now charged with launching an investigation into how authorities responded to the shooting.
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peterson clearly believes at some point he's going to be exonerated. erin. >> martin, thank you. i want to go to the u.s. senator from florida. thank you for your time. you heard the school resource officer there, his claims that he acted properly. he thought it was fire crackers and then he thought they were coming from outside the building. is peterson telling the truth? >> i don't know the answer to that. we won't know the answer until the investigation is complete. >> what about the role of the sheriff? he said he's done an amazing leadership job. he's saying he will not resign.
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others have called for him to do so. do you think he should? >> i don't know the answer to that either. that's going to be a result of the investigation. i'm here to tell you what we ought to do in passing law so this doesn't happen again. >> do you have any concerns? tips that they received that they didn't take action on. >> i have not been briefed on that. >> what do you think should be done? they should stand up. >> don't worry about the nra. they're on our side. there's nothing to be afraid of.
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>> the president said he supported an increase in age. today he was stunningly silent on that. that's something the nra oppo s opposes. do you give him credit for standing up? >> they're minor things. they are steps in the right direction. you're not going to solve the problem until you do two things, one is comprehensive background checks and the acquisition of a gun. get the assault rifles off the street. until those things are done, all of these other things, albeit helpful, you're not going to solve the problem of a high velocity rapid fire weapon that is intent to kill.
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>> i understand what you're saying. my understand is there's no way you are get those two things. are you saying anything short of that is a failure. >> what you said is probably true. remember what the students are saying. they want change. if it takes going to an election arn and make changes in election, they're willing to do that because what you just stated is correct. the nra is going to lock down they're votes because they're going to threaten they will pun i punish any senator or congressman that will not support their position.
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we had pulse nightclub. that's two years ago. we thought we would get something done. since then we've had other massacres. >> the president or the white house said the president will have a meeting on wednesday for lawmakers. it's going to be bipartisan and all about legislation on guns. you're at the center of this, a senator from florida. do you know about there? >> i don't know a thing about it. if invited i'll be there as i have been on all the other issues. let's show some meaningful steps forward. a few steps in the right direction are being done. they're not getting it.
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>> thank you for your time. appreciate it. >> thanks. next, first daughter or senior advisor to the president. will the real ivanka trump stand up. breaking news, facing russia investigators tomorrow. the dpogovernor of kentucky whe there was a school shooting just weeks before the florida shooting. he said video games and television are to blame. what about guns? he's my guest. when did you see the sign? when i needed to jumpstart sales. build attendance for an event. help people find their way. fastsigns designed new directional signage. and got them back on track. get started at fastsigns.com. and got them back on track. you wouldn't accept from any one else. why accept it from your allergy pills? flonase relieves your worst symptoms including nasal congestion, which most pills don't.
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ivanka trump siding with a man over 15 female accusers. that man her father, the president of the united states. sitting for an interview in her formal capacity as quote assistant to the president and advisor. that's how they announced her formal capacity in this role. not only does she believe her father, she doesn't think she should have to answer the question. >> do you believe your father's accusers? >> i think it's a pretty inappropriate question to ask a daughter if she believes the accusers of her father when he's affirmatively stated that there's no truth to it. i don't think that's a question you would ask many other
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daughters. i believe my father. i know my father. i think i have that right as daughter. >> former republican candidate for governor of new york and friend of president trump for 15 years and national affairs correspondent. you're closer to me, joan. pretty inappropriate question? >> no, not at all. erin, part of me feels for her. she is in the situation where her dad has been accused of bad sexual behavior by at least 15 women. we've heard him talk about his own bad sexual behavior on the "access hollywood" tape. he's made sexual jokes about her on howard stern. she has the right to keep her distance, to be first daughter, to maybe go campaign for him. once she takes a job and come sbos into the white house, shooens your advisor, she cannot say that anymore. if sarah sanders has to answer that question, so does she. >> that was the role.
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she's going as the assistant and senior add visor to president trump, as the leader of that delegation. >> she's still the first question. i think we all have to step back and say, what would you do if somebody accused your dad? would answer probably the same way or feel very uncomfortable but i'm assuming she's had that conversation with him and he said, no, i didn't do that and she believes him as probably most daughters would believe their dad. >> she's also heard the "access hollywood" tape. >> that's something competely separate. >> not really. >> he's admitting it. >> that's something very, very different. >> they're consistent in their tone. >> he's confirming things that are worse than he's been accused of. >> here's the reason this bothers me. it's not that she's taken a job with a formal title. it's she's taken on this issue.
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not just women's issue but the issue of metoo and women accusers. when roy moore was running, i've yet to see a valid explanation. i have no reason to doubt the victim's accounts. when it's another man, no reason to doubt the accounts. after oprah's speech and everybody wearing black. ivankatweeted. let's all come together and say time's up. >> she has really left herself open by her tweets. by her roy moore comment. >> is it a double standard? >> not necessarily. it's family member. if you have a family member and you love them and ask them, did you or did you not do this and they tell you no. i'm going to stand by, just like hillary clinton did in the '90s, mrs. me too herself.
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hillary clinton was standing by her man and viciously attacking them. >> no she wasn't viciously attacking them. she was not viciously attacking them. james carville attacked them. >> she did it in court papers when she was defending somebody accused. >> what are you talking about? he was appointed to represent a rapist. >> she's also representing and talking about her husband. >> i understand. how can ivanka trump own this issue? >> you can. >> she should stay away from this issue. >> when it comes to my dad, i'm not going to go there but i'm happy go there on roy moore. that's the issue. >> what is really terrible is what she did to peter alexander. there's nothing wrong with this question. even you admit it but she tries to shame him. it's pretty inappropriate.
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i'm the first daughter. no, i'm sorry. you can't have it both ways in the public atmosphere. in the private sphere you can. >> this is one where i get a pass because of the special relationship. >> she could have denied it. >> one of the magazines did an interview and she didn't like the questions and she ended the interview. she didn't quite do that here but it's the same sort of feeling. >> she shamed him this the moment. when she could have said, flat out, i believe my father. my father has denied these things. she had to do a little pushback. a little smile. a little head shake where she's trying to keep him at bay rather than just con front the question and make it go away. >> even if she said i'd believe my father, the response would have been the same that how does she get pass. >> i'm not sure the response
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would be the same. >> i made the point about metoo and roy moore opinion it's women's issues in general. she's made this, supposedly, the definition of who she is and what her role is. let me play a few more with women's issues that she's embra embraced. >> get your girlfriends to learn how to code with you. it's something we've been promoting fully unleashing the power of women in our economy. we'll create tremendous value. i'm really striving to think about how best to empower women in the economy. >> you looking to me. what about hillary clinton? look at hillary clinton with her -- >> oh, come on. >> it came out recently with her staffer. >> that was ten years ago and she -- >> no, recently. >> it came out recently that it was a staffer from the 2008 election. >> what did she do about it? she discarded it. >> no, she didn't.
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her campaign had a process. the guy was docked bay and sent to counselling. in this maetoo moment, i think did the wrong thing. >> that's like saying someone else is doing it so why can't i? how is that really an excuse. >> you wouldn't let your kids do that. >> what? no. if i were accused of something and my daughters asked did you do that and i said no. i would expect that they stand up for me even if they were on campus leading the metoo movement. >> even if you're on howard stern. >> talking about them. >> inappropriate things with your own daughter. thank you both very much. next, the president blaming violent movies for school sho t shootings. is that really the problem? trump pushing his personal pilot to run the faa. breakfast because you get n get an extra day by the pool
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and add voice and tv for $34.90 more per month. call 1-800-501-6000. breaking news, hope hicks in the hot seat. president trump's long time aids and current communications director will meet with the house intelligence committee tomorrow. this after her scheduled appearance was suddenly canc cancell cancelled. that was last month. a late dwromt coming in this evening. do you expect hope hicks to answer questions or is she going to try to pull a steve bannon which is executive privilege it out? >> we don't know the answer to that yet. that remains the big question going into tomorrow. steve bannon said the white
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house instructed him to assert executive privilege about any topics during the presidential during his time in the white house and even after he left the white house. the democrats are saying hope hicks should not do this because other administerministration of have answered questions including congressman adam schiff who told me this just moments ago. >> we don't know at this point whether she will testify completely and fully as others who have served the administration have or whether she will do what steve bannon did which was stone wall. we hope she'll be fully cooperative. at this point i don't know what we can expect. >> remember after bannon refused to answer the questions the committee threatened to hold him this contempt of congress if not answering the questions.
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the question is will they take the same steps with her? they want to see what she say or doesn't say tomorrow. >> thank you. how important is hope hicks testimony tomorrow? >> depending on whether or not she's testifying. you know i have a policy of not confirming or denying any witness that will come before us. i will say this, that she absolutely needs to come before the committee. there's a few people that have served with mr. trump longer than hope hicks. she has a lot to offer, i'm sure, in the way of information and insight if she's willing. that remains to be seen. >> obviously, that's the crucial question. all of this comes in the context when talking about trump's innermost circle of the duelling
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memos. would the fbi have gotten a warrant to surveil carter page without the infamous steele dossier? the page where the memo lays out the other reasons, in other words, it's not just the dossier, it's this and this and this. look at it, it's all black. we can't see the this and this and this. how important is all that blacked out information? >> it's important to refute what the republicans said in their memo which was in effort to distract and deflect and dissoodi deceive. i'm hoping we move beyond duelling memos. we have to get to the point of
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where we're talking about is how we can prevent and deter russia from continuing as they are today interfering in the american electoral process. this is not new in terms of a concern about our country. if you go back and read letter number 68 in the federalist papers, alexander a mill ton warned about this very thing. >> one of the things that is important when it comes to the accusations in the memo. the nunes memo says the former fbi director testified in front of your committee and he said no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the foreign intelligence surveillance court without the steele dossier. you were there in the room.
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can you say that's false? that's not the accurate meaning of what mccabe testified. >> that quote is completely out of context and had the president not redacted so much, i think the record would have been made. >> it would require me discussing things that aren't in the republican memo and therefore i'm duty bound not to veal. >> you are adamant the context is wrong? the quote would be completely inaccurate interpretation. >> very clearly. they will see if there's financial links to the russians whether it's european banks or others. they say this is a democratic fishing expedition. your response.
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>> the ancient rules of investigations are two fold. it's often the cover up that will get you, not the underlying crime and the second one is follow the money. we're being thwarted on our efforts follow the money. we requested the bank records be subpoenaed and the republican majority has denied that. my question is what does the president have got to hide. this is from day one when he said he would release his tax returns and have not. he's continued in this day in our efforts to get at the truth and how they may have played a role in the russian interference in the election. it's a continuing pattern. the question is what does he have to hide? >> all right. i appreciate your time. it's a big question. robert mule r also working on answer to that. thanks very much. >> you're welcome.
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. president trump going after the entertainment industry suggesting violent video games and movies are to blame for mass shootings today during a meeting with the nation's governors. >> you have to also look at videos. they're vicious. you look at some of these videos. i don't know what this does to a young kid's mind. somebody growing up and forming and looking at videos where people are just being blown away left and right. the level of craziness and viciousness in movies. i think we have to look at that too. >> outfront now the republican governor of kentucky. he was with the president at the white house today. two students were also killed. more than a dozen people injured in a school shooting in his state a few weeks before parkland. thank you for your time. the president bringing up the issue of violent video games and
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movies. is the reason for these mass shootings more that than guns themselves? >> i think it's not that simple. thank you for having me on tonight. thank you for giving attention to this topic. it's a very complicated topic. there's no one thing. the argument i've made and it's important for us to focus on is that it isn't simply a function of passing a rule or another law or identifying one thing that someone else or some program should do that we as a culture, we as a society have a elective responsibility here. what i would submit is many things, these things the president alludeslluded to, oth things like the addiction young people have to social media. >> you think it's a lot of things.
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all of these are important to address. when you look at movies and video games and they are violent and understandably so to people of your age and my age. they're available in canada and france and the united kingdom. they don't have the gun violence we have. in 2010, for every million people in the united states, 36 were killed with gun homicides. in canada it was five and france it was two and uk it was zero. you have the same video games and movies there. while important, it doesn't take away from the underlying point that is the differences we've got guns. >> we do but here's what's interesting is the statistics are tricky things. they can be used to paint any number of pictures. i would encourage you and your listeners and viewers to consider a study that was done by sipsychologists a couple yea ago where they directly studied
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a direct correlation between the use of these violent vied odeo s and the psychological impact on young people. does that mean they're bad in and of themselves, it doesn't. i'm not trying to imply that but it's part of a bigger dialogue that if we don't have it, we're being naive. >> yes. you know when you look at the number of guns, i mean the 2017 report from the atf they said there's 9.5 million guns manufactured in the year 2015. that's double than just five years before. just this crucial point. guns themselves are at the core of this problem. you can watch all the video games you want but if you don't have a gun to shoot people, you don't have a gun to shoot people. >> you can see somebody in new york or nice, france that uses a vehicle or pickup truck. we see people in china using knives to kill 29 people on a train. if somebody wants to perpetrate
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evil, they will use whatever is at their disposal to do so. the question we need to ask ourselves is why do young people feel the need to go into a school and kill other young people. it's not the catalyst for this epidemic that's sbeweeping our nation. >> we do have more people killed in the nation and we have guns and others don't. i don't know how you can address this issue if you aren't going have an honest conversation about gun. >> it has to be part of conversation. i'm not nor does anybody that i know who is being serious about this not saying we should look at every contributing factor. let us not jump to a conclusion and assume and it's interesting so often people have ideas of what someone else should do. what another program or another entity should do. not what we as a society should do. bear with me one second. you said in the intro, you
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talked about morality. this isn't about morality. t this community called the united states of america has seen its mores shifting. we have to understand why. we understand the output. what are the inputs that's changing this? >> when you say i don't want to jump to conclusions, it isn't jumping to conclusions to look at the core issue which is someone can watch video games or be upset on social media or have psychological issues, but if they do not have a gun, they cannot kill a lot of people. >> here's what's important to understand. where in america do we have the greatest amount of gun control or laws on the books? name a major city. chicago might come to mind. >> or new york. >> look at some of the murder rates. every city is different. i would say this, we have more rules and more regulation and
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more restrictions on the purchase and ownership of guns that he with ever did and that in many instances is good and appropriate. i'm not taking a beef with that. i would say that when we had none of those things or far less of those things, kids did not go into school and kill other kids. yes we have more guns on average per person. we used to have far more homes with guns in them just a few generations ago. kids did not kill other kids at school. >> right. of course those guns were not as powerful as some of the guns we're talking about. >> they'll tell you just as dead, erin. >> yes, but maybe not as many people quickly depending on the fire speed and the rounds. what about the solutions here, your colleague, republican governor of florida, rick scott is saying he doesn't want to arm teachers and a lot of people agree with him. the president has been pushing that idea of arming teachers in schools who have training and want to actually do so. there's a bill i know in your
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legislature in kentucky that would add guns to school. teachers would be elected as a school marshal and allowed to carry a gun on campus. do you support that? do you believe that arming teachers is an answer to this? >> i think it's a misunderstanding of what's being proposed. here's what i would say. my thoughts in response to your question. i do think it's important for us to not have gun free zones that are known to be so that if a person does get inside, we just had a shooting as you referenced. 16 young people were shot. two of them died in kentucky a few weeks ago. once a student gets inside the school if there's nobody there to intercede those students are so vulnerable. back to your question, i think it's appropriate for us to consider not the arming of teachers.
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it would be a teacher if they wanted it to be. it could be somebody who is a member of the custodial staff. if this were to be done. i'm not saying it should but we should consider it. if it were to be done, these individuals should receive significantly more training than would somebody for a concealed carry. they should go through a battery of psychological tests. they should be prepared to handle not only that situation but in the school. the element of surprise is what's critical. every kid in that school, including the ones that might want to harm other kid will know within matter of days after that person is on campus where they are, what time they come, what doors they are in, when they take their coffee break and it will remove their ability to be impactful if it's not known whether 1, 3, 5, 10 or 15 add hin straite -- administrators have guns.
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flonase. new tonight, the trump organization saying it is making good on a promise the president made. announcing its donated profits of foreign officials staying at his hotel. you may remember the pledge. the president made it days before taking office. >> president trump decided that he is going to voluntarily donate all profits from foreign government payments made to his hotel to united states treasury. >> so you don't know how much they donated or how much profit they made. they don't give you any information. richa richard painor is out front. are they following through?
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when you don't say exactly how much you are charging and how much you made and who is paying it. >> we don't know. and the ball runs. they ran for the parties. and that is just the tip of the iceberg. how about the rent being paid by chinese government on banks. how about the financing of the business empire all we know is that the american banks won't loan him any money. where has he been borrowing money. so this is just the tip of the iceberg. >> it is an issue of integrity and you made a promise and are you keeping it. if you look at the trump international hotel at washington. you know you will see him there. it is emptier than the other hotels of its caliber. high end in washington.
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but it has a room rate that is 40% higher. okay. how do you get lower occupancy in a higher room rate, you get that because you get higher premium. we don't know how they are interpreting profit. >> they are bringing money in for the room, the restaurant, all the other rooms, the ballrooms. there is a lot of money coming into that hotel and they aren't telling it where it is coming from, which foreign governments are paying this money and aren't telling us how much this is. none of it is broken down and we have seen no documentation on it at all. >> and mike pence hosting it as well. is all of this corrupt? >> of course. we have the bankers who are going to have a big bash at the end of the month.
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. the faa is without an administrator and one contender had been flying under the radar until now. here is jeanne moos. >> personal pilots can be pretty memorable. >> just how personal is that? i'm a damn good pilot. >> reporter: when axios reported president trump wants his personal pilot to head the faa reaction was less gold finger and more airplane. >> surely you can't be serious. i am serious and don't call me shirley. >> reporter: he flew trump one during the campaign and told the smithsonian panel. now he is on the short list to pilot the federal aviation agency.
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if the president's pilot can be head of the faa why not these tongue in cheek comments on twitter. adult film star linked to president trump, stormy can launch the national weather service. pretty soon he will push this fool for surgeon general. >> and a wing nut. >> reporter: axios quoted an aviation official quoting trump's pilot with a seen felt episode. >> do it, jackie. stan's the man. >> reporter: but the pilot is no caddie. he has managed airline and corporate flight departments.
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unfortunately stan the caddie's bra backfired. is the president's pilot fit to lead the faa. jeanne moos cnn, new york. >> and thank you for joining us. "ac 360" with anderson starts now. good evening. thanking the doctor and first responders who saved her life. when you first saw her, she was badly bleeding. he could take her to a hospital 30 miles away where department policy said he should take her or go closer. follow the protocol or break protocol and go closer and risk her getting the wrong kind of
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