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america. it will benefit s.t.e.m. disney's ce oo says it is thrilling to inspire the young children with technology. >> 700 million for context. guardians of the galaxy made $703 million in five months. >> thanks for joining us. i'm i really believe i would run into even if i didn't have a weapon. >> it's ridiculous. >> he was stating he would step in and try to help. >> it's common sense. >> i don't think he should be backing away from this issue. >> i don't care if congress does it or not. i'm writing it out myself. >> in this case he deserves credit for this and i hope he'll keep it up. >> i got to watch some deputy sheriffs. they weren't exactly medal of honor winners. >> insisting he did nothing wrong as cnn learns new details
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about the gunman's troubled past. >> i remember thinking he's going to kill someone. and i can do nothing about it. >> announcer: this is "new day". >> we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "new day" tuesday february 27th, 6:00 a.m. in new york. president trump keeping up the pressure on lawmakers to change the nation's gun laws nearly two weeks after the florida school massacre. but sources tell cnn that president trump appears to be backing away from the idea of raising the age limit to buy rifles. the president also says unlike the school resource officer, he would have rushed into the school even if he did not have a weapon to stop the carnage. republicans and democrats are haggling over solutions to background checks. so what can they get done today? florida, they seem be moving on two tracks. there's changes to gun policy being banged out in the
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legislature, but there's equal intensity in the security breakdowns that proceeded the attack. the sheriff facing growing concerns to resign. cnn learns police received double the number of 911 calls to the killer's home than the sheriff has revealed. that will be interesting if the people complaining about the police now will agree the types of law changes you would need to restrict access to weapons for someone like the parkland murders. two west wing staffers are in the spotlight today. hope hicks is set to meet privately with the house intel committee in the russia investigation. question is, will she invoke executive privilege like we've seen others do. ivanka trump's trip to south korea is causing tension with the president's chief of staff. why? we'll get into it. let's begin our coverage with cnn's abby phillip live at the white house with our top story. >> reporter: good morning, chris. president trump has been saying publicly that he's willing to go against the national rifle against to push gun control
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measures, but the question remains, how far is he really willing to go to get congress to act? >> don't worry about the nra. they're on our side. half of you are so afraid of the nra. there's nothing to be afraid of. >> reporter: president trump urging the nation's governors to implement stricter background checks. >> you know, if they're not with you, we have to fight them every once in a while. okay? they're doing what they think is right. >> reporter: it comes after the weekend meetings with the leaders of the nra. despite his apparent willing to break with nra positions, sources tell cnn the president appears to change the legal age to purchase a rifle from 18 to 21 after publicly considering the idea. the white house says the president did not discuss the age limit issue with governors. >> when they don't bring it up, that's very telling to him. >> we go to war at 18. then you vote at 18 but you can't buy a rifle? >> it's very inconsistent.
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>> reporter: as congress struggles to find common ground, the president signaling a willingness to take executive action against bump stocks. >> bump stocks, we're writing that out. i don't care with congress does it myself or not. i'm writing it out myself. >> reporter: the president doubling down on his criticism of broward county deputies who didn't rush into the school to save lives. >> the way they performed was frankly disgusting. >> reporter: mr. trump going so far suggesting he would have acted if he didn't have a gun. >> i believe i would run in there if i didn't have a weapon. most of the people in this room would have done that, too. because i know most of you. but the way they performed was really a disgrace. >> reporter: the president making the argument again for arming teachers. >> they don't love the students. they don't know the students. the teachers know the students and want to protect the students. >> reporter: washington state governor rejects that idea. >> educators should educate and should not be foisted upon this responsibility of packing heat
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in first grade classes. i suggest we need a little less tweeting here, a little more listening. >> reporter: lawmakers floating a few proposals during congress's first day back in session, including the fix nix bill a plan to give insentstives to states and federal agencies to make more entries into the background check system. a universal background checks bill, a draft proposal to raise the purchase age for long guns and an assault weapons ban. president trump has a couple of meetings today with bipartisan groups of lawmakers, just another opportunity for him to hear some feedback about these proposals being thrown out, but already one of the easiest things that congress could do a background checks bill is already facing head winds in congress partly because of what it might be attached to. >> thank you very much for setting all that up for us now. let's end where abby did, there's head winds in congress
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to figuring out what they're going to do, but there's a lot of momentum outside of congress. so all the polls, the kids have not given up obviously in parkland. they're still out there everyday talking about what they want to see. the florida state legislature is doing things and moving forward. what do you think will happen this week in congress? >> this week everyone will try to assess where the president is. that's really important to republicans who are facing primary elections and strong resistance from their second amendment supporters and strong opposition from the right. this will be a listening time. as i said, particularly where is the president? where is he going to make a stand? it is clear that he appreciates and has -- can read the power of this anger. but it's unclear whether he can stay consistently on a position. for republicans in congress, that's a must do. they can talk about bump stocks and they can talk about fix nix.
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the cornyn bill no one objects to it. those kinds of things can pass. i think you'll see a bigger push obviously from the other side for more and this sort of just wait and see on where president trump is going to land. whether or not -- look, it was remarkable he said for the first time that he's willing to push the nra. he said that before. >> yes. i want to stop you there for one second because i did think we need to take a beat on that. that is i think vintage trump and why so many -- part of why so many voted for him. i never heard a politician say that. >> if he can back it up the next couple weeks, it will be a real br breakthrough. >> that's the problem. he hasn't really done that. although in deference to the president on this one, he did check the box early on saying we have to do something. we've heard nothing from ryan or mcconnell. the president is out in front of in terms of motivating change.
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who do you think needs to deliver here? i'm a lot more skeptical about what the president is saying and whether we can actually believe him. that is idle talk that you have to buck the nra. first of all, what has he said most recently when he warned about a democratic takeover of congress. watch out, they will destroy the second amendment. that's what he's telling people in a electoral context. two, let's not forget, this is the president who walked away from a deal to get funding for a border wall. his signature promise in the election, he walked away from it because he was listening to the hard right within his party on immigration. so he could have had a huge immigration deal. he walked away from it. i don't think he will take on the nra. and i think his leadership is not as important as what you're hearing. the silence you just mentioned, chris, republican leaders do not want to get into this fight. not in an election year where they already have so much energy on the left.
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again, that energy would only -- could only grow if they are certainly intense about this issue and are willing to vote on an election year. but you're looking at the leadership among republicans they don't want any part of this beyond fixing the background check. even there as a.b. said, there's head wind. maybe the bump stocks. they don't want to get into raising the age, assault-rifle bans. >> action speaks louder than words. we all know that. but just to hear a president say things like we have to be very tough and we have to fight them about the nra. that's the only thing. he sometimes switches up the script to hear republican president. just that vocally. i hear you, david. obviously there's a big disconnect between sometimes things that are said and the actions. >> you have to fold the democrats in, too. oh, maybe i have it wrong. but i made about 15, 20 calls last night. i'm right. the democrats are trying to
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figure out how important this is to them, if it's a hill they're willing to die on. are you going to go all in on? they were bruised by what happened with the shutdown. they had their own people in their party, stand firm or get out. you failed us on that. you got nothing out of that. so they're considering that, too. even though they don't have power, as you say, there's all this momentum on the outside. can they harness that into political momentum in congress and at the polls? >> since jeffrey tuben is not here, i was right also in my argument. >> you were certainly right going into it. optimism is always the right choice. >> i agree. listen, there was the meeting with the governors that the president had at the white house. there was an interesting moment when the governor of washington state confronted the president. so listen to this. >> i just think this is a circumstance where we need to listen that educators should educate and they should not be foisted upon this responsibility of packing heat in first grade
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classes. now, i understand you have suggested this. and we suggest things and sometimes then we listen to people about it. maybe they don't look so good a little later. i just suggest we need a little less tweeting here, a little more listening and let's take that off the table and move forward. >> thank you very much. you know, we have a number of states right now that do that aened i think with that in mind i'll call on greg abbott, great governor of texas. greg? >> how about that moment, a.b.? little less tweeting, little more focus. let's not have teachers packing heat. he spelled out i think what the other side's position is to the president sometimes. >> the thing is about arming teachers is although it's done in some places, this is not going to be federalized. republicans are not behind this. and it's a way for the president to continue talking about something he feels strongly would be -- would help prevent these shootings but it's not an actual solution that would pass.
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so, what we're really looking at is whether or not he stays off an age restriction. whether or not he defines what a comprehensive background check is. and willing to have guns taken away from mentally unstable people. >> this is all a red herring. >> because republicans aren't behind it. they're not. they're not going to reopen and funding mental institutions and not going to get behind arming teachers. there's no appetite for that. it's a talking point for him. >> go ahead, david. >> also just the look of him. just put up that video again. not exactly an open and affirming stance on his part to listen to the other side. >> body language. >> you have my attention. you can talk as long as you want. >> i liked it. >> am i able to lock up governors as well as hillary clinton? i'm not sure. can somebody check on that while he's still talking. look, i think a.b. is right. i think the reflexive response that somehow this is just
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outlandish on its face is not enough for democrats. i think that there has to be a full look at how to harden the target. there's lots of things to do. for those of us who have -- who are parents of kids who are going through active shooter drills and skochools are going through how they lock down schools at different times. the security or police presence that they have as a deterrent as well as first responder situation. the schools have to take this seriously. i think the horrible reason is that we know people who are going to commit this kind of act, if they are of sound mind, and even if they aren't, understand the kind of blaze of glory and the kind of media attention they're going to get. i think they seek out those targets because of it. >> now the president did his best to disrupt any positive momentum by saying something foolish how even with no weapon he would run into the school. but i would argue he lost. this lieutenant governor of georgia said one of the most ridiculous things we've heard in a long time from a public
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official when he said he's going to do everything he can to make sure that any legislation, tax legislation, that benefits delta in the state of georgia. remember, he's the lieutenant governor, not the governor. but he will kill any tax legislation that benefits delta unless they change their position and fully reenstate its relationship with the nra. corporations can attack conservatives and expect us not to fight back. he doesn't work for cpac. he's the lieutenant governor of a state. remember what the nra does. they give a boost. they give special rates to certain people. so they're not punishing anybody from taking them away. they can do whatever they want. i've never heard of lawmaker doing anything like this. because they don't like the politics of a company, they go after that company. >> well, he will be rewarded for that. there are people who are members of the nra or supportive of the nra and not yet members who find this boycott situation, this corporate response appalling. and they are all over social
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media promising to find other brands and other corporations to support. so -- >> they can do that. >> there is definitely a crowd. >> he's the officer of the state. >> the membership of the nra is not as big as people think. >> 5 million people. >> people will say thank you to standing up for those corporations. >> it's fine. but he's not just standing up. >> i know. it's a threat. >> dave, we have three better minds than mine. have you ever heard of a state official doing something like this before, saying i don't like how you're dealing with the nr-a or any special interest group, i'm going to punish you as a state official if i can? >> no. but i think if you're playing to the base in a state like georgia, perhaps you can get away with it. there's something else that should be said here and what bothers me about the nra or conservatives invoking the nra leadership position as fully representative of the nra, the reality is we've had a debate now since 2001 about terrorism in this country. and there has been an accepta e
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acceptance, left, right and center that we have to give up certain rights, even some of our privacy, in the name of security. we do it at the airports all the time. and yet we hear from the leadership of the nra not necessarily its members who i think feel differently that you cannot give any quarter when it comes to gun safety. i think this is where the debate falls down. and i think there's too much of a fringe of a leadership of the nra that speaks for the entire membership. >> david, a.b. thank you very much. stick around. up next, a cnn exclusive for you. she lived near the high school killer and she said she tried to get police to do something about him. >> i remember him leaving and just thinking, my god, he's going to kill someone and i can do nothing about it. >> her full story next.
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show the department actually received double that amount in the last decade. this as cnn speaks exclusively with a former neighbor of the shooter who says she called police to report him two years ago and begged them to do something before he shot up a school. rosa is live in parkland florida with that cnn exclusive. what did she tell you, rosa? >> reporter: good morning. we knew about this neighbor by that list of call released by authorities. what we didn't know are the chilling details that she witnessed from across the street. >> my husband and i both knew that it was not over, that we would eventually see him one day on the news wearing an orange jump suit, being charged with murder. >> reporter: she called 911 in february, 2016, to say her neighbor nikolas cruz was going to shoot up a school.
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she didn't know when, but he begged the officer to do something. >> he said there was nothing he could do unless he carried out a threat, unless something happened. and after he left, i just felt completely helpless and frustrated. i didn't know where else to turn. >> reporter: her son had showed her an instagram post from cruz, showing an ar-15-style rifle with cruz saying he couldn't wait to buy one when he turned 18. and soon after, another post. saying he wanted to shoot up a school. the alarmed neighbor who watched cruz grow up alongside her kids, flashed back on all the signs of violence she says cruz showed over the years and immediately thought he was capable of going on a rampage. >> i was really afraid for my family, for my animals, for myself. >> reporter: she says cruz was 10 when he hit her son with a rock in the eye. then she says there was the
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killing of todds in her yard and the shooting of squirrels and birds with his bb gun. there was a time when she felt sorry for cruz when she says his mother kept the refrigerator and pantry under lock and key. but she says it was cruz's menacing facial expression as he stood over her dog max as he was convulsing and foaming at the mouth that convinced her this teenager had a dark side. >> he was bending over my dog with a wild look on his face. he just looked excited. he was happy when he finally looked up and saw me, his whole demeanor changed. his attitude toward my dog changed. >> reporter: what did he say? >> he went from a wild look to concerned. >> reporter: the signs of his violent outbursts could be seen on the walls of his room she says which were covered by holes punched by cruz. >> when you think of those 17
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people who died, and their families. >> i feel horrible. my heart breaks for them. i wish you would have told me something could be done if you make enough noise. he didn't. he said there was nothing that could be done. and i believed him. i wish i didn't. but i did. i'm very angry. i'm very angry. >> as authorities investigate, look into these missed warning signs, the sheriff's office is looking into the handling of two calls. the neighbor's call is one of them. >> all right. look, that's an important data point to give us a real sense of the context of what people in the community did know. what should it have meant to law enforcement? let's bring back david gregory and joining us is phil mudd. this isn't a terror case, phil. but you had so much experience with knowing what law
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enforcement assesses as a threat, what actions they can take. what do you see in this situation? >> look. let's say that somebody reacted to that call. we had fbi calls as well as you know. you walk in and have a conversation with the kid. i had a bad hair day. i broke up with my girlfriend. i'm unhappy. i think we do have, as you say, a data point but it raises a bigger question far beyond the minimalist questions i've seen on whether you raise an age from 18 to 21. that is when you see behavior like this through multiple lenses, phone calls, neighbors, instagram postings, when does the individual whether 18, 21 or 30 lose the right to privacy because the state says the behavior we're seeing is not illegal but it's so disturbing that we're going to go through a judicial process to take away this person's weapon. i think that's the question raised here and it's a lot bigger than these stupid conversations we're having about whether all you do is raise the age to 21. that's ridiculous. >> oh my gosh, david rose's interview is so illuminating. i haven't heard it spelled out
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in such graphic terms just how excited he was by animals in distress or animals dying and how violent he was and all those sort of graphic details. and the idea that police told that neighbor, well, until he acts, we can't do anything. you know? he has to have -- he's going to have to do something first. how can this be? >> i'm so troubled by it. and i think we have to kal grate our outrage about this and our desperate worry about this in the same way that we want to talk about limiting people like him and limiting their access to weapons, reducing the lethality of a weapon, if it is used in a crime like this. you know, it's like after 9/11 when there was so much work to be done, wondering why the government wasn't talking within itself to put together the dots of menacing what became mass
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murder behavior. and here, too, we have to take a hard look at lowering the threshold for allowing someone to have access to a gun. i keep going back to your question from last week, what is the responsibility of the gun seller? i don't think we can overburden this person because there's lawful transactions, but it does bare in mind, why are you buying the weapon? why do you want three rifles? what's going on? how do you look? how do you appear? there's no question that we make these assessments every day people make these assessments. when a 171 going around trying to get a case of beer or other things that minors cannot easily buy whether it's, you know, tobacco, cigarettes, you know, there seems to be a higher threshold for taking someone's measure. >> i'm asked more questions at the airport when you check in your bag, did you pack this? is there anything else in there?
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those are fair questions. > look, there's good news and there's bad news. here is the good news. we do know there's a solution that all 50 states have been aveiled of but they're not putting it into prak yet. the military is. the marines is doing it and lowered their suicide rate 22%. everybody can google the columbia protocol. there's a list of question that leads to how to direct resources and getting help and makes a huge difference in dealing with people like this shooter. then there's bad news. okay. when i heard in the cnn town hall the nra lady go at the sheriff and say, what about this law? in the state of florida, phillip, you know this stuff as well. if you target an institution, i'm going to go shoot up the school, it doesn't trigger the statute. it's about threats towards an individual. now, people are saying we have to change this. the right is going to have a problem. the same people criticizing the cops right now when they say you're right, we're going to lower the threshold of access to weapons. if you have a couple neighbors who say this, it will trigger a
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proceeding. they're not going to like it. the left is going to have a problem because when you say to them, well, you know, you're right, too. if somebody like this is in distress or treatment, that doctor should come forward. they'll say no because of the child privacy rights and hipaa and chilling access to service. that's why they're nibbling on it around the edges because neither side likes what this changes will mean for their politics. fair point? >> that's fair. and that's why the conversation should not be taking place in the congress of the united states. they will fail us. this is where presidential leadership comes into play. look, in the past couple days we've had the president use this as an opportunity to talk about how courageous he would have been. we have the sheriff say how incredible his leadership was. we had the deputies say i didn't do anything wrong and we lost sight of 17 human beings. if i were the president, i would step back and say democrats and republicans in the congress will fail us. i'll establish a commission with people of loyalty to america's is unquestioned. maybe former george bush or
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general stan mccrystal. i'll direct those people to ask basic questions not whether the deputy did something wrong. what do we do if there's a threat to a place and not a person? should we have standards that are federal? should we support the states in a different way? the presidential leadership here could take this debate partly out of the congress and instead we get out i would have run into the building. we can do better. >> the president was talking about how he would have been able to run into the building even without a weapon to try to save people. i guess my question is, do you think that his bone spurs would have prevented him from running into the building? >> just so not helpful. in all of this -- i agree with phil that the president can instead of talking about reopening mental institutions can try to lead us into a very stuff conversation as chris lays out, what are the costs of lowering the threshold of access to weapons for people who may not be of a sound state of mind? we want to protect it for lawful
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gun owners, buyers and try to keep people away who are dangers, just like in the debate and the efforts to protect us from terrorism. why can't we join these two conversations instead of turning off our mind when all of a sudden it comes to guns? >> why is this the only threat in our society, if you think about it, that we don't combat it? it is the only threat in our society we do this with. the president says i'm thinking about reopening mental institutions. look how they apportion the money for opioids. you should be putting those resources on the ground. there's not enough money to help people who find themselves in these situations. the talk and action as you said often a disconnect. >> phil, david, thank you very much. we're getting reports of frustration inside the white house. surprise. surprise. no, it's different this time. it's over the lady on your screen. ivanka trump's trip to south korea. what is behind growing tension
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about north korea. white house officials disputed the notion of any tensions surrounding this trip claiming that kelly and general h.r. mcmaster we are very supportive. rain, strong winds will hit the midwest and northeast today. cnn meteorologist chad meyers has your forecast. i thought it was supposed to be nice today and tomorrow in our area. what happened? >> it is. it's supposed to be nice for you. that is thursday and friday when you get the rain. but the rain has been all the way through the plains. 13 river stages at flood stage ormore. this is the rain that will be the problem. up to five more inches of rainmaking areas that are already flooding even worse. here is today we move you ahead to tomorrow. the rain is in the same spots. for you, chris, here is where it gets messy. thursday into friday but finally by friday afternoon it is all gone. we're talking about major rain in the major flood areas already. we certainly don't need anymore, but we're going to get it. >> chad, thank you very much for
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♪ we're talking about the threat that these mass shootings pose on our society, that's obvious. what can we do about it is less obvious. we're talking about gun control, the big part of a national discussion right now. both sides digging in, a big aspect is the second amendment, right? it gets waived around as a reason not to do anything. joining us now is constitutional lawyer michael waldman the author of "the second amendment a biography." great to have you, appreciate it. >> great to be here. >> let's try to nail down some
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of the nuts and bolts of this. i will offer up arguments in favor of it. it's my right to have any weapon that i want and you are trying to take that from me with any further restrictions and it's as big a bedrock principle as the first amendment. >> so, the idea that the second amendment gives you an unlimited right to a gun is not in the constitution. the conservative supreme court chief justice said it was a proud on the american people. the second amendment reflects individual rights to gun ownership as recognized by the supreme court only since 2008. before that, it was seen as referring to the militias, which were these minutemen, which were the state armies of people who owned their guns at home and were actually required by law, white men were required by law, to own a gun and be in the militia. even now the idea that the supreme court has upheld that
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it's an individual right, you can have gun restrictions and strong gun laws. we have rights in this country and we also have responsibilities. >> so two points, one historical, one practical. the historical one, is it true in its earliest interpretations, that the second amendment wasn't about individuals telling the state we'll have guns when ever we want. it was the opposite. it was the state largely because of washington's influence where he couldn't get enough well-armed, well-trained people to get an arm which is what he wanted, not these individual militias, saying to the individuals you must have a musket, you must know how to use it, you must have it for your own and bring it when we call you. >> it's such a world that's so different from what we know now. it was a universal draft, basically. george washington wanted the strong constitution. a lot of people who were opposed to the constitution were worried that the government, the big central government, would be too strong. they wanted to protect the state-run local armies basically. now, they had an individual
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right to gun ownership to serve the duty of being in the militia. our question to the founding fathers would make no sense, just like their answer to us makes no sense. but when you look at the -- when they were debating the second amendment and writing it up on the floor of the house of representatives, it was about this issue of military service. they were very concerned about the public good. >> the practical consideration, from the gun advocate's perspective. waldman, you're killing me with restrictions. i want to get a gun legally, it's so difficult for me and so easy for the bad guys. every legal change you're going to make makes it hard for me, the law-abiding person wants to exercise my constitutional rights and easier for everyone who wants to hurt me and my family. >> when justice scalia wrote that opinion ten years ago in the heller case, the supreme court said, you know, you could have restrictions on guns that were unusually dangerous or that were in the hands of the wrong people, whether it's the mentally ill who shouldn't have
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guns or something else. we have those kinds of restrictions all the time. we have them on cars. you have the right to drive a car. they don't ban cars. nobody is calling for that. but we have speed limits and you have to pass a driving test. and they have air bags. these are the kinds of -- >> you have to wear a seat belt. >> even if you don't want to. and that's the kind of restriction that would make guns something that were much less dangerous to society. the kind of weapon of war that we saw in florida and we saw let's not forget in las vegas by somebody who was well over 21, that kind of weapon can be banned constitutionally. the courts have upheld that across the country. and we should not be afraid to admit that as a country that we can't actually protect ourselves and our rights at the same time. >> and the proof of it was the brady bill the assault weapons ban in '94. the aspect of forcing state law enforcement officials to put into effect certain regulations, that got knocked down in the
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prince case at the supreme court level, but the overall law and the concept of banning assault weapons did get constitutional legitimacy. brother waldman, thank you very much. this story we're following, dwyane wade dedicating his season to one of the parkland massacre victims. how the tragedy became personal for wade. the bleacher report next. ♪ ♪ run your business at cloud speed.
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miami heat star dwyane wade got really emotional about one of the stoneman douglas students laid to rest. that student was laid to rest wearing his jersey. andy scholes has more in the bleacher report. this was a big moment in an absolute fashion. dwyane wade wound up addressing critics of sports stars as well here. >> yeah, that's right, chris. a fox news host said that nba players should not talk about politics and just shut up and dribble. dwyane wade said this is the perfect example of why he will never just shut up and dribble. the student we're referring to z his name is joaquin oliver. he was known for his love for sports, especially the miami heat and dwyane wade. he was laid to rest wearing a wade heat jersey. and that really hit home for wade who said he's dedicating the rest of this season to joaquin. >> i don't know the word, you know, for it. like i said, i retweeted on
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twitter. you're going to make me cry. it's emotional even thinking about that, that his parents felt that burying him in my jersey was something he wanted. i take a lot of pride in what i've done in this state and what i've meant for the youth. so i appreciate that. >> the heat will be wearing stoneman douglas patches on their jerseys for the rest of the season. >> so andy, when i was down in parkland, i had the honor of being around all of the guac, that his nickname, friends at the vigil. there were probably 20 young men, all different -- black, white, asian, hispanic, all hugging each other, all crying. so, i know what guac meant to that school and to his steemt teammates. they talked a lot about him. thank you for sharing that tribute. hope hicks, one of the president's closest and most trusted allies goes before the
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sources tell cnn that white house communications director hope hicks is set to appear before the house intelligence committee today. will she invoke executive privilege as steve bannon did? joining us now is democratic
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congressman jim himes a member of the house intel committee. good morning, congressman. >> good morning. >> what are you hoping to ask hope hicks? >> we start with what we hope won't happen is the kind of expansive envocation of executive privilege we saw from steve bannon saying the president was asserting his privilege not over just conversations he had with the president but with conversations that extended back into the transition. it's going to be very hard, obviously, to get a comprehensive feel for what went on on matters of interest to the investigation if individuals won't even talk about the transition much less what's happening in the white house. so we're hoping, as we have seen from other white house officials, to actually be able to have a reasonably comprehensive conversation. >> but if not, if she goes the steve bannon route, if she does invoke executive privilege, remember, steve bannon, former chief strategist to the president, said the white house asked him to invoke that.
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if she does that, what's your recourse? >> that's a good question. and as i think you know, it is the white house that has to assert executive privilege. a witness can't say i'm not speaking because the white house may decide to invoke executive privilege. so our recourse to answer your question at the end of the day we could adjudicate what executive privilege is and where the limits lie. that may be important. this investigation, as you know, has gotten -- has acquired a partisan flavor over time, but there are larger issues at stake here. the assertion of executive privilege we saw from steve bannon, i think, was as broad assertion of executive privilege as anyone in this town has ever seen. obviously congress has an interest in making sure that executive privilege is exactly what it is designed to be protection for the president's advisers when they are advising the president. >> so, if she can more forthcoming than steve bannon and does agree to answer
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questions, are you focussed on that air force one plane trip where the misleading false statement was crafted about what the real point of that don jr. meeting with russians in trump tower was? >> of course, we are. if there was an effort to hide what really happened in that meeting, in that initial statement that came out was not actually all that accurate to what happened in that meeting, it is important for us to know why that effort was made and who felt they needed to make that effort and why. so, of course. but there are obviously lots of broader issues at stake here, alyson. this investigation and congress is interested in the full array of possible contacts with russians on the part of everybody associated with the campaign or everybody period. so, look, this is a potentially interesting witness because word is that she is perhaps the closest adviser along with one
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or two other people to the president. she was obviously there from the very beginning. we are really hoping she can cast a lot of light on what, if any, the contacts were with russian individuals starting from very, very early on going straight through to the present day. >> there's a couple of new polls hot off the presses that have just come out. this is a cnn poll that just came out this hour. i want to share with you how americans are feeling about portions of this. is congress doing enough to prevent foreign influence in elections? 37% of americans say yes. 60% say no. what more could you all be doing? >> well, i do think there's a lot more we could be doing, starting with speaking with one clear voice out of washington on acknowledging that this attack took place. sadly this whole issue acquired a partisan sheen before the election when president obama comes to the capital and says i need the leaders. i need you, nancy pelosi, mitch
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mcconnell, and everybody to say we are under attack by the russians and in a bipartisan basis we will not tolerate that. of course, senate leader mitch mcconnell says no, i am not going to do that. sadly there are echos of that today. maybe this has changed with the indictments of robert mueller and other a dozen russian individuals and three russian entities. the president of the united states until recently has called the russian attack a hoax, as fake news. if we can't speak with one voice on the most serious attack we've had on the core of our democracy, the russians aren't going to take it seriously. yes, of course, there's a lot more that we, not just the congress, but that the government needs to do to make sure that our elections are protected. >> to that point, there's another question in the new cnn poll just out this hour. how is the president handling russia and his approval or d disapproval numbers, 30% approve, 55% disapprove. as you can imagine, congressman, some of this breaks down along
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party lines. still, what do you see in those numbers? >> it's not all surprising. the president from the start called this investigation fake news and called the russian attack a hoax. so, you know, 30% is probably a fairly good number of those people who, you know, as we've come to refer to them, are the fifth avenue republicans. consistent with the idea that the president put out there that he could shoot somebody on fifth avenue and people would be totally fine with that. i'm sad to see that number is 30%, but i think that's what pop lates that group of people. >> the other word for that is his base. i think fifth avenue republicans is catchy. but congressman jim himes, thank you very much for previewing what's going to happen today with us. >> thanks. >> thanks to our international viewers for watching. u.s. viewers, "new day" continues right now. >> the teachers love the students and wa to protect those students. >> i listened to the first

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