have the president on his back, calling him names. jeanne moos, cnn. >> i'm not elf on the shelf. i'm jeff sessions. >> reporter: new york. >> and thanks for joining us. we'll see you back tomorrow night. "ac 360" with aprinderson begin right now. word of a possible big departure from the west wing, another one. that's just after the other one. this time it's the president's national security adviser, lieutenant h.r. mcmaster who had replace t replaced michael flynn. it comes with a side order of cnn exclusive reporting on the adviser closer to the president than anyone else on earth, his daughter ivanka and a deal of hers that could be holding up her permanent security clearance. once again, a very busy night. what do we know?

>> what my colleague, barbara starr and i are told, mcmaster could leave by the end of this month, that, according to an administration official or in the near future. multiple sources describing it that way. and in addition, it is becoming more likely that mcmaster will not return to the military in a possible four-star general job there but would ultimately retire as a three-star general and go on into a civilian job. this follows many public and private disagreements between mcmaster and president trump and the feeling from a number of people i've spoken with is just as his position as national security adviser became untenable because of many of those disagreements. >> is there any word on who could actually be replacing him? >> yewe're hearing a number nam, among those names being considered, saffra cat, john bolton, former u.s. ambassador

to the u.n. steven beegen, a vice president at ford motor company and senior staff member of condoleezza rice. ford has told cnn that that is not true. he's not in discussions. i should also say that the nsc spokesperson michael anton has dismissed these reports with a favorite phrase of the trump administration, and that is fake news. but again, my colleague barbara starr hearing this from multiple people who are aware of the discussions inside. i should make one more note as well, that weigh kn know of a s military officer who was cop sulted about the possibility of taking on this job. he saying no because he was concerned about how he could fulfill what is basically a %-p. and he understood that was the position that mcmaster was in. he still has his three stars. and now the question has been would he go back to the military. but our information is that he will not go back to the military

after his departure. and, again, anderson, i should say this is the trump white house. it is up to president trump himself, the final decision. and these kinds of personnel news can always change. >> let's go to jim acosta at the white house. what's white house saying about this report? >> well, as jem mentioned just a few moments ago, the president is calling this story that hr mcmaster might leave fake news. we know all too well when the president says something is fake news that doesn't necessarily make it so. in many cases it's probably the opposite of that. it's probably real news. with all the talk of these departures this week, we talked about hope hicks last night. tonight we're talking about the possibility of h.r. mcmaster leaving. you know, this is another sign of a white house that is just in this constant state of turmoil. i did talk to a source earlier this evening with respect to hr.

mcmaster who said that there are some expectations that jgeneral mcmaster will go to the hoover institution, which is a leading think tank here in washington and out in california, which also has ties to condoleezza rice. the deal is not finished, but that is a possibility in terms of a landing spot for mcmaster once he leaves. >> if and when this happens, this will be the 11th top official to leave the white house. >> that's right. and earlier today, white house press secretary sara sanders was not closing the door on the possibility that jeff sessions may be leaving. when she was asked whether the president wanted to get rid of his attorney general, she said not that i know of. i talked to senior administration official earlier this evening about all of this. this official said that sessions just doesn't pay attention to this kind of political drama.

that his job doesn't entail following political drama. that he's doing the things he likes to do and that he was over at the white house today on an opioid matter. but putting aside all the palace intrigue, we're in the second day in a row of the president causing massive confusion on policy issue. on gun control he created all sorts of confusion when he said mentally ill people could have their firearms confiscated without any due process. then he announced tariffs on aluminum and steel that could happen next week. he did that without explaining what the details would be and which countries would be affected. so for all of this talk of mr. magoo, it's been another looney toons week. we can't exactly say that's all folks. >> joining us now. retired army lieutenant, well,

are we having him join us? it looks like a high school yearbook, but these are all high-level people, this would be the 11th departure leaving the administration so far. five from communications director, five at chief of staff. omarosa, quite a malaysilist. joining us now, our guests, so admiral kirby, how big a deal would it be if mcmaster leaves his post at the white house. >> obviously a very, very close adviser to the united states, commander in chief. so any departure, movement in that office is a big deal. it's significant, and it's going to have an effect on the way policy is executed.

the national security director's job to make sure that option are teed up to the president in a thoughtful way. there's been some concern with mcmaster to the degree with which that has been healthy, but it will have a significant effect. >> does it align with anything you're hearing in military circles? >> it would be troubling right now, anderson because of what admiral kirby just said. there's a lot of things going on, and mcmaster's at the center of it. he's a disciplined, very smart guy. he's been driving processes, the national security strategy was really his product, bringing a lot of people together. it set the stage for how we deal on the international community, and what's interesting is h.r., i know h.r. and he's very much of a process driven guy, even though he is very flexible. anytime you have these kind of operations, it's intelligence

driven. i'm sure he has been exceedingly frustrated by having the intelligence driving operations and strategies, and, you know, over the last year, he's tried to reconsolidate things after the debacle that was the flynn national security agency, and now he is actually bringing some things together, but i got to believe that it's been a tough year for him. and it's been extremely difficult. he has been very verbal on the world strategy. -- strategy. he's go stage. >> there's the geopolitical message and then there's the political message it sends about how the white house is or is not functioning. >> that's right. and in this game of thrones style of shuffle in this white house it also means that general kelly has recovered a bit from the porter scandal from a few weeks ago, at least in president trump's eyes, so it means he's

probably there to stay for a while. some people may like that. some people may not like that inside and outsides white house. it also means secretary tillerson can live another day, because you can't let go of half of your national security team. in terms of politics, it creates, not to criticize my own trade, but this is certainly more significant intermly andna on the geopolitical scale. >> admiral kirby, i remember candidate trump's affinity for generals, talking about them in multiple campaign stops, watching him on the sunday shows. he oftentimes said he knew more than generals did. does it surprise you that he has a fraught relationship with a military leader? >> i don't know that it surprises me. there's this idea that every

general is the same, and they're not. general hurt liling is not like every other jegeneral. there has been reporting that president trump bristles at the way he approaches him. if this relationship is not working, it's a healthy thing to break it off and let both men move in different directions, but i also worry and have worried when he did name so many generals and former generals to jobs that it could result in the militarization of policy. and that's thing. admirals and generals will really smart at what they do. it's not healthy to have, i don't think so many around you. >> can active duty military officers turn down this job if the president calls them up and says hey, i'd like you to do

this? >> that's tough to do. but remember, general mcmaster was one of two general officers after admiral hardwood turned it down. he was retired. president trump had two active duty generals, cass lynn alin a mcmaster. he chose them in about an hour. i'm not sure there was that ability to see what he was getting into. and president trump at the time when he was transitioning did not know the intricacies of foreign policy, how to pull all the elements of the intelligence community together with the various directors of government. so he picked a guy who certainly is smart, but, you know, i'm sure personalities clashed as has been reported they do. i didn't answer your question. can an active duty general turn it down? it would be tough. you'd probably have to say i'll put in my retirement papers now.

>> we're also maybe long past the point when the white house denies something or dismisses it, those denials really carry very little weight. >> that's right. and i think look at jim acosta reporting how the white house brushed off what was said about it. that is important about your credibility and how much it matters in cases like this. we've heard time and time again high-level officials say the president has absolute confidence in this person. the president's sitting in the oval office with this person. and then just a couple days later they depart. so this doesn't lead us to conclude that general mcmaster is there to stay. it actually leads us to conclude who likely is on the rocks, and as cnn's been reporting, looking for his way out, and they're looking for his way out as well. >> stay with us. much more ahead to talk about, including exclusive new cnn reporting on a deal by ivanka trump that the counter intelligence unit has been

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unstable or in trouble. certainly a new addition to a heavy strain. there's new reporting about ivanka trump and an international business deal that could be holding up her security clearance. first daughter, ivanka trump, is one of the president's closest advisers. here she is representing the country at the winter olympics in south korea. in short, she's doing official government business in a very difficult part of the world, potentially involving some of the most sensitive intelligence there is. yet neither she nor her husband jared kushner have been able to get the full security clearance they need to do their jobs. it's not clear what this one international deal is with ivanka trump, which we'll go into detail in a moment, the main situation is whether a foreign power might be able to exercise undue influence on foreign policy or gain access to because of a government official's family affairs or family ties. this is a problem candidate

trump suggested would never arise if he were elected. here he is on the campaign trial slamming hillary clinton saying unlike her he can't be bought. >> she's all special interest and donors. she will do whatever they tell her it to do. these people have given her tens of millions of dollars. my campaign has the absolute opposite message. i'm self-funding, imate on'm th one on both sides self-funding. self-funding. i have no oil company. i have no special interests. over $100 million that i don't take in from the special interests because i don't need it. >> he didn't need it because he said he and his family were rich. however, he failed to mention the source of that wealth which includes overseas businesses and investors. this is just a day after a story

published on her husband, whose company he still has ties with got loans worth billions of dollars. while in his official capacity, he met with bankers who later lent his family business money. officials in four countries had conversations about potential vulnerabilities that kushner had due to financial interests and his company's real estate woes. as of now, jared kushner has a plain old clearance. the calligrapher has a higher clearance. can he stay in >> jared's still a valued member of the administration, and he's going to continue to focus on the work that's been doing, and

we're going to continue pushing forward on that as well. >> are there any concerns about conflict of interest, given the meetings that he had with executives from companies that gave his family business billions of dollars in loans? >> i would refer you to the statement put out by his attorney. >> cnn's sarah murry got the exclusive. we are joined now. i understand one of the international deals is drawing this interest from fbi investigators. what you have learned? >> that's right. we know counter intelligence officials have been looking at this trump power deal in vancouver. ivanka was the point person in the trump organization for this project. now it's not exactly clear what it is about this deal that has investigators so interested. this is another one of those arrangements where the trump organization doesn't actually own the property. instead, they strike up this licensing and prapding agreement with the developer. in this case, a developer is a malaysian guy, a member of one

of the wealthiest families in malaysia. he's the one who owns this building, and then they selle sell-o -- sell off the condos. they have generated a lot of interest from foreign buyers. any one of these things can be a possible concern. but the timing of the deal is really interesting. this is one of the few trump properties that actually opened after donald trump took office. so it opened in february 2017. >> why would counter intelligence be interested in this? any idea? >> what you were basically talking about, anderson, there's a lot of concern over the contacts really everyone around trump was having. jared kushner, ivanka. this one deal and her contacts with perhaps some of the investors, some of the people maybe buying into this property, something triggered the counter intelligence. the fbi has been spending well over a year now look at their contacts, some of the deals being made. but something in this particular deal, i've been told, really

triggered the fbi, and they've really been looking into it, trying to get an accept, sort sy trying to exploit her, her husband, jared kushner, all of that remains a concern for the fbi. >> would this have any impact on the mueller investigation in. >> it could. because the counter intelligence investigators who are looking at this are also working with the mueller team. anything that has to do with his family, with the president is now being run out of mueller team, out of mueller case. so potentially, it could. and you know, from everything that i know, mueller has seen some of this information. it is before him. it is before his prosecutors and investigators. so it could potentially, we don't know that ivanka has any kind of exposure to this. it could be simply what mueller has been doing. as we saw in the indictments against the russians, looking at what others are doing, what other countries are doing to try to influence the people in this country. >> the last we heard, ivanka

trump had an interim security clearance. do we know if hers has been downgraded like her husband's? >> if suddenly ivanka trump got a top secret clearance, we don't know. and obviously, we saw the case of jared kushner, it was not only his financial dealings but also the mueller investigation that prevented him from obtaining the full security clearance. because they're married, their security clearance process has an impact on one another. ivanka trump could be impacted by her own business deals or her husbands. we do have a representative for ivanka trump down playing this, saying cnn is wrong that any red flag raised were her clearance application, they say nothing in the new white house policy has changed. ms. trump's ability to do the same work she's been doing since

she joined the administration. and if that last phrase sounds familiar, it's because we heard something very similar when jared kushner's security clearance was downgraded. at least we know john kelly made a ruling that if you're operating under an interim security clearance you will not longer be able to keep that and see top-secret information. >> just ahead, in the middle of another night of breaking news from the white house, we'll take a breath and discuss the implications of what you just heard. yes! ours is still buffering. what's happening?

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back now with the breaking news on cnn's exclusive reporting that u.s. counter intelligence officials are skraut ni scrutinizing one of ivanka trump's business deals. the fbi has been looking into the negotiations and financing surrounding trump international hotel in vancouver. and the scrutiny could be a hurdle for the first daughter as she tries to obtain a full security clearance in her role as vuzadviser to president trum. joining us to talk about it is former fbi and cia senior

official phil mudd. and president obama's white house ethics czar, and also jen psaki. what does it tell you that the fbi hasn't been able to finish up or, you know, that the first daughter has not been able to get a full-time security clearance. >> let's make sure we understand two questions. first, i didn't see anything in the reporting that suggested she did anything wrong. that said, there are some key questions you've got to ask here if you're doing the security clearance. number one, did she declare any, we know we have a history in this administration of them not declaring their contacts. number two, does this company h have any dealings with the u.s. government. what happens when they pick up the phone and they ask for a meeting at the white house? does she now feel compelled to offer that meeting? and the last question, i think, would be does the intelligence

community, including the fbi, have information on the people she's dealing with that indicates those people are dirt ey y. what does that mean. they're like a tylenol twins. so many questions about whether there's a conflict of interest. >> does it raise ethics concerns for you? >> anderson, thanks for having me back. it raises pro found ethics concerns. the question of the vancouver trump property that's under counter intelligence investigation is only the latest entanglement for ivanka, for her husband jared, because we impute these potential conflicts to spouses. they apply to the whole trump family. it's been a never-ending stream of these. and, you know, if, in fact, there is some problem there, it, it may represent a conflict that

should require her to step away from certain issues, and the the behavior of the trumps is more like that of a royal family than of a modern-day elected officials between the conflicts and the nepotism and of course, the president himself has the largest conflicts of all hanging onto his businesses. another troubling development. >> jen, the idea that america was getting jared kushner and ivanka trump as part of a best and brightest package deal. it seems to be a deal of security clearance hurdles. >> that's true. you never want to hire someone you can't fire, which is why there are nepotism laws in part. when you fill out your security clearance forms, typically, your spouse's contact and their financial ties are also taken into account. so we don't know what her security clearance is, exactly what the status is. but there's no doubt that she

would be, her security clearance would probably be impacted by everything happening with jared as well. and, if you look at this circumstance, it's actually pretty surprising, reading the story, that she hasn't been pulled into some of the reporting. she's been pretty low-key, as it results to the mueller investigation. doesn't mean that she's done anything wrong. but she's been around for a lot of the key moments. as a daughter, that would be expected. but that's another place where it's a bit of a conflict to be a senior adviser and a daughter in this case. >> the president doesn't yuptd go background check the way other people in the white house do. but president trump when he was a candidate often said hillary clinton would not have been able to pass a background check, given that jared kushner, ivanka trump have not gotten a full-time clearance, would the president if he had to, be able to pass a background check at this point? >> i don't believe he would be able to, and in effect, he is doing a background check by

robert mueller. he's looking at the financial background of the kids and the president. we're making this like it's an incredib incredibly complicated. when i was in government, i could not accept a gift from any foreign government more than $22$2 $200. that's $200 american. he is executing deals in excess of hundreds of ms. r. s milli dollars in the white house. we're talk being about somebody negotiating deals with foreign governments potential any malaysia and elsewhere while they're in the white house. we look at this like this is the normal activity who are the children of the president. the comparison to what an every day official would have to go st through is night and day. i would be on my ass so fast.

the light wouldn't be out by the time i was out the door. >> for context, i had to explain wedding gifts. no one knows ethics rules better. she was referring to your comments on business loans. what happens in the process and why were you trying to debrief j -- deprive jen of a new coffeemaker? >> exactly. >> i did not expect some day i would be going over jen's wedding registry as may most important legal responsibility. >> but you did. >> but we did. and i'll tell you why we did that. it was the opposite of the trump administration. in the obama administration, the president believed that tone at the top matters, and you need set a tone of integrity. and if you have a president who is hoovering up, who is bringing his children in and they're doing deals, and there's a cloud

of conflict hanging over it all. potential constitutional issues. that sets a tone to everyone, and you very quickly get into the people in the cabinet saying why can't i do it too in and you get dr. praiseice's flights and carson's $31,000 conference table and all of the banality. that's not what the american people signed up for. they want a government and president that will serve the public, not serve yourself like at an all-you-can-eat buffet. it's just wrong. it stinks. >> do you think it's noticeable that he hasn't bypassed the clearance, he can show them the daily briefs even if they're not cleared for it.

>> he can do a waiver on a case by case basis. so if he wants jared to be the point of contact with saudi arabia on an oil deal, he can do that. so we'll have to watch and see how many waivers he gives in had this case and how it's impacted. it is interesting, as you said, that he didn't give an overall waiver or didn't stop kelly from acting, because it shows he wasn't ready to step in, even for his son-in-law, even though he's supposed to be, basically his chief diplomat from the white house. >> thanks everyone. up next, a look into jared companies receiving loans. no denial the loans were indeed made. question is were they ethically okay. ♪ if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla.

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before the break, we laid out the latest reporting from cnn, the "new york times" on jared kushner. now i want to focus on the potential play between money and politics. joining us is author of the upcoming book "the common good", and steven moore. i mean you've been sounding the alarm about conflicts of

interest in the white house. the fact that kushner's family business was granted $500 million in loans, what do you make of that? because kushner's lawyer and everybody and the companies say there's no there there. there's no connection. >> well, first of all, anderson, it's not just the conflict of interest. it's also the appearance of conflict of interest. the reason that we have these ethics laws in government. the rein that the constitution talks about no emoluments. if you have someone getting money for a family business, the public cannot be confident that that advice is going to be in the public's interest. >> do you agree with that? the optics of this? >> well, first of all, i knew we were going to talk about this, so i did call the white house today to find out, you know, what jared's position is, what

his response is to this, and it's just three sentences, but i'd like to read it to you and your audience, because he needs to be defended. and this is the statement from his lawyer. jared kushner has had no role in the kushner companies since joining the government and has taken no part of any business loans or projects with or for the companies after that. he has followed the ethics advice he has received from all of his work, which includes the separation of his business. that is his position. i'm not in a position to judge who's right or wrong here. i do think robert reich has a point. the appearance is a problem here. and i do think that jared needs to, you know, there's a "wall street journal" article today saying that maybe he should step down from his official position. but i want to say this that i think is the more important point. why did donald trump win this election? because he was a non-politician. he was a businessman.

we've had for ten years, look, i don't think there were any ethical problems with barack obama. i don't think i knew anything about business or how to run an economy. i think what attracted so many millions of voters to trump is he is a businessman. >> we know that, but you have no ethical concerns about the fact that business is still being done, that they all have stakes in their business, i mean jared kushner, yes, he put a lot of this in a trust that i think benefits his siblings right now, but he still has an economic interest. >> look, i'm making a bigger point here, because i don't now what the truth is on all these allegations. what i'm saying is, are we saying that people were successful in business cannot be in government because they have conflicts of interest. it seems that's what my friend robert reich is saying >> it sounds like what you're saying is they just have, it's great if they're successful in

business, but once they're in government they shouldn't still be conducting business. >> exactly. we've got to keep business and government separate. there's too much big money in politics as it is. donald trump came to washington promising to drain the swamp of washington, and what we have is in the white house, donald trump himself, jared kushner, lobbyists all over washington who are now in the white house, and these people are making decisions that are helping them personally, they are profiting personally off of -- >> robert, that's just allegations. >> let me just finish. steve? steve, really, i love talking to you, but you have to let me finish my point. to be in business doesn't mean that when you go in the government you have to continue to stay in business in that same business and rake in money. what you have to do in government, this is true, and this is true even when i was in

government. you've got to separate yourself, clearly, and distinctly from that business, not only >> i agree with that. i'm in total agreement with you. imna i'm in total agreement. >> but not even meeting with people who are going to be giving your business loans. >> he said he recused himself of that. then there's this other point you were making earlier anderson about nepotism. wait a minute. who ran john f. kennedy's campaign? it was his brother, robert fchblf. kennedy. who ran the white house during the last year of woodrow wilson when he had a stroke? it was his wife. these are family members of a president who are competent to be very close, strategic advisers for presidents. >> i'm just not sure that running a real estate business in new york means you're competent to handle middle east peace, relationships with china,

mexico. i guess my question is, if hillary clinton was president, let me ask you steven. if hillary clinton was president am chelsea clinton and her husband mark, i'm not sure how to pronounce his last name, had many business dealings, some of which have failed or not done so well, if they were running around the world representing the clinton administration, are you telling me that you would not be raising some concerns? >> i agree there is an appearance of impropriety issue hire. but jared kushner, he is someone i worked with on the campaign. he is brilliant. i don't think donald trump would have won the election without jared's wise counsel. it's national for donald trump to want him as chose as possible. and i do think presidents should be able to have the visors that -- advisers that he wants. >> we're mixing several issues. one thing is family members. i agree there have been some presidents who have had family

members as advisers. but we do have nepotism rules. we also have the issue of business. people who have high roles in business, who are having business connections and doing business in the white house that looks like it's benefitting them in terms of their personal business life. that is a problem. it's a problem whether it happens. it's a problem if it looks like it happens. and teach, you agrsteve, you ag appearance of impropriety is a big problem. jared kushner should be out of the white house. >> there is a big difference between the appearance of impropriety and impropriety. that's the sense that all of these allegations are made, but we don't have any evidence. what you do have is an appearance of impropriety. jared has to be much more careful. >> do you agree that he should be out of the white house? >> no, but i think theis official roles maybe, probably are not a, probably are monot t

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sources telling cnn the white house is postponing its announcement of specific policy proposals after the remarkable meeting just yesterday. one source told cnn, the one where the president suggested taking people's guns away and figuring out due process later threw a wrench into the white house plan. another american high school went on lockdown. students terrified sheltering in place. this time nobody was hurt and the shot fired came from a

tuchtuc teacher's gun. the story is out of georgia. >> reporter: for those who support arming school teachers, jesse would not be the role model they are looking for. >> oh, my god. >> reporter: 53-year-old social studies teacher in north georgia locked himself in his otherwise empty classroom and is accused of shooting his handgun. >> this is the classroom where the teacher was at and this is the window he fired his gun. it's now boarded up. >> reporter: the school principal said he went to the classroom door twice after hearing davidson was not coming out. >> he told me he had a gun and shortly i heard a gunshot. >> reporter: nobody was hit by the single gunshot but panic ensued. the 1900 student school went into lockdown. >> i was shaking and crying and just like holding one of my best

friend's hands and strangers hands and we're just communicating with everybody trying to see what happened. >> all you hear is the footsteps. we didn't know who it was in the hallway. we were scared every time we heard footsteps because we didn't know who was going to come to us. >> reporter: the teacher is not unknown to local police. in march of 2016 a police report stated that davidson come to the police station to confess to having someone killed. police eventually determined he made up the story. they found no murder victim. he wasn't arrested but received medical treatment. the school says it is aware of his medical history. >> sir, according to a police report this teacher had said he was involved in a murder of a person who turned tout be a fictional person. did you know about that and if you did, why would he be allowed to continue teaching here? >> i'm aware of the police report but as far as i'm aware he was fit to be at work yesterday. >> does that concern you knowing

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welcome to the second hour. on the table whether it's the departure of the second national security advisor or are we looking a t a white house in chaos. what about the president's feud with his own attorney general and the white house secretary carefully constructed answer to the question is he going to be fired. the president appearing to take an nra and you'll hear what the nra top spokesperson has to say. is he staying or going? >> reporter: general mcmaster could leave his position in the white house as soon as the end of this month and in the near future. multipresidele sources say it'sy