Skip to main content

tv   Fareed Zakaria GPS  CNN  March 4, 2018 7:00am-8:00am PST

7:00 am
at&t, no way. we offer 35 voice features and solutions that grow with your business. at&t, not so much. get internet on our gig-speed network and add voice and tv for $34.90 more per month. call 1-800-501-6000. this is "gps," the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria. today's main event, condoleezza rice, the former secretary of state, former national security adviser. i'll ask for her take on the trump administration. >> i think america is just fine. do i like some of the language that comes out of this white house? no. >> and we'll talk about russia and the divisions back home in
7:01 am
the united states. and xi jinping, will he be china's president for life? the chinese national people's congress looks poised to make that possible. how is that being received in china? what does it mean for the rest of the world? two top experts will discuss. also, we were warned about jihadis returning to america from syria. so what happened? we have the answer. then on the eve of the academy awards -- >> mom and dad, my black boyfriend will be coming up this weekend. >> is hollywood finally changing its ways? we will examine diversity in america's biggest soft power industry, the movies. but first, here's my take. amid the usual trump reality show in washington this week, it would be easy to miss what is happening in china. but it is huge and
7:02 am
consequential. china is making the most significant change to its political system in 35 years. what impact will this have on china and the world? that's the question every policymaker, business executive, and investor should be asking. in 1982, the chinese communist party wrote its into its constitution that the president and vice president could serve no more than two consecutive terms. this made china unique. a dictatorship with term limits. in most authoritarian regimes, the ruler accumulates power, and over the years becomes more arrogant, corrupt, and unaccountable. this wasn't possible in the chinese system, which limited any individual's power and focused instead on the collective, the party. china's unique model also produced an economic miracle. the country has had three decades of merit-based collection and promotion within the communist party, wise
7:03 am
long-range planning, and smart, pro-growth economic policies. since 1978, china's gdp has grown at an astounding annual rate of almost 10%, which the world bank calls the fastest sustained expansion by a major economy in history. in addition, for decades, china seemed to be getting more institutionalized politically. mao ruled as a supreme leader, wielding from behind the scenes more from any offices he held. his successor held all the key posts, and after two terms of president, he continued to lead the central military commission. after that, he remained influential informally. when his successor finished his two terms, he simultaneously relinquished the top military position and lost almost all his power at once. but that trend has now been turned on its head. if term limits are abolished, which is now almost certain, xi
7:04 am
jinping could stay china's president, general secretary of the communist party, and chairman of the central military commission, for the rest of his life. china is eliminating perhaps the central restraint in a political system that provides staggering amounts of power to the country's leaders. what will that do over time to the ambitions and appetites of leaders? power tends to corrupt. absolute power corrupts absolutely. perhaps china will avoid this tendency, but it has been widespread throughout history. china under xi has also become more ambitious internationally. it is now the world's second largest economy, the third largest funder of the united nations and the provider of more peacekeepers than the other four permanent security councilmembers combined. the country has been bucking up its military while it has been devoting significant resources to far-flung cultural arms like
7:05 am
confucius institute. it has the belt and road initiative, that will around ten times the size of the marshall plan. it is determined the lead the world in fields like solar and wind power, electric cars, and artificial intelligence. chinese scholars say it is now clear that china is entering a new era with a new system. since the communist party took power in 1949, it had roughly 30 years of rule. that was followed by 30 years of dao ping and his system. it is now clear that we're in the third era, which might be 30 years of xi jinping. is anybody in washington paying attention? for more, go to cnn.com/fareed and read my "washington post" column this week. and let's get started.
7:06 am
let's keep talking about china with two terrific guests. evan, let me start with you. why now? why do you think the chinese government, xi jinping, decided to make this move now? >> he's sort of got tactical reasons and strategic reasons. the tactical reason is it removes the question of succession from conversation. otherwise, it's going to loom over him for the next five years. the strategic reason, and this is one that's more worrisome, perhaps, is that it also. indicates that he's prepared to do really major changes to the country's political and legal landscape in order to protect his position and in order to protect the party against the possibility that would have political turmoil in the future. so he's made the decision now, which is something of a surprise
7:07 am
that he would do it as formally as he has. >> liz, you have a book coming out in which you talk about these three eras of chinese history. what do you think this third era or third revolution, i think you call it, what do you think it's going to look like? do we have a sense as to what the character of xi's tenure will be? >> i think absolutely. xi jinping sort of says what he does and does what he says. so for the past five years, we've watched him consolidate his power, which is why this move isn't that surprising in some respects. we've seen that the party has begun to penetrate far more deeply into chinese society and into the economy. he's really closed off china in new ways through the internet, through the ngo law, to try to limit the influences that come from outside in, and i think it's a more ambitious china
7:08 am
under xi jinping. >> liz, stay with that for a moment, the ambition in foreign affairs particularly. do you regard, you know, the belt and road initiative, the activism on the south china seas, as the beginning of a new era of expansion? in other words, some people say, look, china has these regional ambitions, that's it. once it achieves them, it'll be fine. then there are those who say, well, this is now, five years from now, we will see an even more expansive vision of what they should do. >> no, i think xi jinping has made very clear that his ambitions do not stop with the asia-pacific region. in fact, the belt and road initiative extends to 69 countries, not only in asia, but in europe and africa and in the middle east. and i think he's looking to remake global order, the rules of the road, in ways that suit china more. he has said in one of these
7:09 am
speeches back in 2014 that he wants china not only to help write the rules of the game but also to construct the playground on which the games are played. he has a very ambitious vision for china's role and its centrality in the global system five, ten years out. >> and all this, evan, bumps up against the existing superpower, and you're beginning to see the tensions. you already saw them in the south china seas under the obama administration. now you have a new front, which is going to be trade. the trump administration is clearly getting tough on trade, you know, whether or not that's a good idea from domestic point of view. it clearly is going to be aimed at china. we don't import that much steel from china, but we import a lot of other stuff. do you think this sets us up for a kind of inevitable confrontati confrontation with china? >> i think what we're seeing is that the president has concluded this is why he was a big part of
7:10 am
why he was elected. as we get closer to the midterm elections and ultimately to 2020, he's returning in a sense to the things he believes and the people he believes brought him to power. some of the hawks on trade, people like peter north america r -- navarro. china is frankly not surprised. anybody who's been talking to chinese officials over the last couple years knows they have prepared for the possibility that donald trump would pursue a more confrontational approach on trade. they know exactly what they're going to do. they've said as much privately. they would attack american aviation manufacturing, boeing for instance. they would go after agricultural exports, places like iowa, which they know are essential to donald trump's political base. so this is the beginning of the game. this is by no means the last step. >> and what about the idea that this will kind of produce a greater erosion of the world trading system and order of, you know, the two main countries. the first and second largest
7:11 am
economies in the world enter into some kind of trade war, liz. that doesn't bode well for the open liberal international order. >> no, it certainly doesn't bode well. and i think, you know, the hope will certainly be that, you know, other actors in the united states are going to step in and that president trump looks at this, as evan suggested. he's appealing to his base. these are the people, the steel workers are one of his core constituencies. these tariffs will have enormous and negative impacts within the american economy as well. i think we're going to have a lot of other actors step up to the plate and say, you know, we're not interested in a trade war with china. this is how it's going to hurt the american economy. so my hope is frankly that this is sending a message to the chinese that, you know, we're fed. uh, we want to see more structural reform. we need to see more progress on all of the economic reforms you have promised over the past, you know, five, ten years. and that the chinese will not,
7:12 am
in fact, do what evan has suggested, which i'm afraid they will do, which is to retaliate in kind. we'll see this as a shot across the bow and a play for his base and maybe begin to move a little bit on some of the promised reforms. >> thank you so much. fascinating conversation. up next, the main event. former secretary of state condoleezza rice joins me to talk about why she doesn't think american civilians need to buy military weapons. she will also offer her take on why russia is meddling in american politics. we'll be back in a moment. late checkout... ...down-alternative pillows... ...and of course, price. tripadvisor helps you book a... ...hotel without breaking a sweat. because we now instantly... ...search over 200 booking sites ...to find you the lowest price... ...on the hotel you want. don't sweat your booking. tripadvisor.
7:13 am
the latest reviews. the lowest prices. i thought i was managing my moderate to severe crohn's disease. then i realized something was missing... me. my symptoms were keeping me from being there. so, i talked to my doctor and learned humira is for people who still have symptoms of crohn's disease after trying other medications. and the majority of people on humira saw significant symptom relief and many achieved remission in as little as 4 weeks. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb.
7:14 am
tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. be there for you, and them. ask your gastroenterologist about humira. with humira, remission is possible. and back pain made it hard to sleep and get up on time. then i found aleve pm. the only one to combine a safe sleep aid... ...plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. i'm back. aleve pm for a better am.
7:15 am
7:16 am
capital one has partneredthing with hotels.com to give venture cardholders 10 miles on every dollar they spend at thousands of hotels. all you have to do is pay with this... at hotels.com/venture. 10 miles per dollar? that is incredible. brrrrr. i have the chills. because you're so excited? because ice is cold. and because of all those miles. obviously. what's in your wallet? i'm not sure. what's in your wallet? my guest today, condoleezza rice, really needs no introduction. but let me remind you, she was born in alabama, which was still under segregation at the time. grew up to be a scholar of the soviet union, teaching at stanford university. she served on george h.w. bush's national security council and
7:17 am
then as the younger president bush's first national security adviser and his second secretary of state. since leaving office, she's returned to stanford, and she's also a founding partner at the consulting firm ride, hadley, gates. she's now a filmmaker. she hosts "american creed," a documentary. the film premiered on pbs on tuesday. welcome. >> thank you, fareed. >> first, tell me why you did the film. it feels as though this is somewhat outside of your foreign policy. obviously you were motivated to do this because of something you see in the country. >> that's right. in fact, we began this project -- david kennedy, the pulitzer prize winning historian of america -- and i began this story some five years ago. we were already seeing we're a country divided. we're a country that's lost a sense of common purpose. we've lost a sense of common narrative. and no country can hold together
7:18 am
without that, but particularly one like the united states in which we're not united by ethnicity or nationality or religion. we really are united by this creed, by this aspiration. you can come from humble circumstances and do great things. so david and i were talking one day. we're both stanford faculty. i had looked at america from the outside in as secretary of state. what do people see? he, of course, has studied america from the inside out, deeply immersed in america's history and its challenges and its opportunities. we first said we'll write a book. then we said, nobody will read the book. then we thought we'd do a film. it's been a great project with him. >> but the big challenge it seems to me in america now is we've always had the ethnic challenge. there have always been people, whether it's immigrants, african-americans, but now it's social class, the division between the elites, the big cities, the people with college
7:19 am
education, and that really feels like is pulling us apart. it clearly erupted in this last election. >> i agree. i think it's different than before. we've always had tensions because we come from so many backgrounds. there's a kind of cacophony of america. the thing that was different is you weren't prisoner of your class. you could always make it to the top, even if you started in a housing project. maybe you would be the ceo of a company one day. there are examples of that. but i think it goes, fareed, to the very core of what made that possible. opportunity, particularly opportunity for high-quality education, made that possible. when i can look at your zip code and can tell are you going to get a good education, can i really say it doesn't matter where you came from, it matters where you're going. in this film, we try and explore the stories of americans who have made it their personal responsibility to make sure that nobody is left behind.
7:20 am
>> i got to ask you a few more things in the top of the news. when you look at one more mass shooting, do you think that, you know, frankly what president trump said recently is the right answer? universal background checks. why do we need to sell assault-stiassault assault-style weapons to people who claim they want it for hunting? >> let me start by saying i'm a defender of the second amendment. my father and his friends defended the community, the naked, with guns against white night riders because you couldn't count on the birmingham police. if you're a defender of the second amendment, we need to look and see what combination of things can help us get to the place where we don't have the parklands we just had. some of it may be age restrictions. some of it may be that we have to really have a conversation
7:21 am
about whether civilians should have access to what are essentially military weapons. we also need to look at law enforcement. fareed, if you'd had as many tips about a terrorist as apparently were there in this case, somebody might have done something about it. so what's the structure of our intelligence on what is about to happen? this is not going to be solved by one solution or one element. we're going to have to have a conversation about a number of them. but i, for one, do believe that we've got to have a serious conversation about guns and what we want to do about it. >> when we come back, we're going to ask condoleezza rice about her main area of expertise, foreign policy, particularly russia, the country that she's devoted her life to studying. strength and energy in just two weeks! i'll take that. -yeeeeeah! ensure high protein. with 16 grams of protein and 4 grams of sugar. ensure. always be you. thisat red lobsterest.
7:22 am
with exciting new dishes like dueling lobster tails and lobster truffle mac & cheese. classics like lobster lover's dream are here too. so enjoy these 10 lobsterlicious dishes while you can because lobsterfest won't last. you wouldn't accept from any one else. so why accept it from your allergy pills? most pills don't finish the job because they don't relieve nasal congestion. flonase allergy relief is different. flonase relieves sneezing, itchy, watery eyes and a runny nose, plus nasal congestion, which pills don't. flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances. most pills only block one. and 6 is greater than 1. start your day with flonase for more complete allergy relief. flonase. this changes everything.
7:23 am
two,that was awful. why are you so good at this? had a coach in high school. really helped me up my game. i had a coach. math. ooh. so, why don't traders have coaches? who says they don't? coach mcadoo! you know, at td ameritrade, we offer free access to coaches and a full education curriculum -- just to help you improve your skills. boom! that's lesson one. education to take your trading to the next level. only with td ameritrade. bundle and save big, but now it's time to find my dream abode. -right away, i could tell his priorities were a little unorthodox. -keep going. stop. a little bit down. stop. back up again. is this adequate sunlight for a komodo dragon? -yeah. -sure, i want that discount on car insurance
7:24 am
just for owning a home, but i'm not compromising. -you're taking a shower? -water pressure's crucial, scott! it's like they say -- location, location, koi pond. -they don't say that. it's like they say -- location, location, koi pond. small business, internet providers promise you a lot.
7:25 am
let's see who delivers more. comcast business offers fast gig-speeds across our network. at&t doesn't. we offer more complete reliability with up to 8 hours of 4g wireless network backup. at&t, no way. we offer 35 voice features and solutions that grow with your business. at&t, not so much. get internet on our gig-speed network and add voice and tv for $34.90 more per month. call 1-800-501-6000. and we are back here on "gps" with condoleezza rice. the most famous statement i would say that president bush made about foreign policy was his second inaugural. this clairon call to spread democracy around the world. it almost sounded like the truman doctrine, and it was the united states is going to support all these efforts
7:26 am
everywhere. many people saw you as being a guiding hand behind it. the trump administration seems to have premised its foreign policy on exactly the opposite view. it's a fool's errand, we should never have been involved in it, we should be much more self-interested in a narrow way. do you think the country has rejected that view? >> well, i do know that people see it as hard to support democracy. i don't much like the term democracy promotion. it suggests somehow that we're promoting something people don't want. i can't believe there are people in the world who would rather live in tyranny, who would rather be the secret police knocking at the door, not able to say what they think or worship as they please. i think what the united states needs to do is continue to support those people, to continue to be a voice for the voiceless. what's interesting about the trump administration is that sometimes it creeps into their foreign policy. by what goal or what way can we
7:27 am
criticize maduro in venezuela if we don't care about the internal politics of venezuela? we've not just criticized him, we've used sanctions. i've heard the president talk about bashar al assad in syria. this murderous dictator. so there is reference to these internal circumstances. >> but here's the difference. it seems to me you tried very hard, as did bush, to be actually quite principled and applied universally. what trump is doing is an age-old american tactic. you attack syria for that, but you give a pass to egypt, which is repressing its political opposition. your argument is that will produce its own problems. >> it absolutely will. i stand by that. anybody who will listen, i will say to them that we're going to be better off if we continue to promote american values because in the long run, our interests are best served by promoting our values. we learned in the middle east that for 60 years, we promoted
7:28 am
stability rather than democracy, and we didn't get either. instead, we got a political set of circumstances that created al qaeda in that political vacuum. politics didn't stop in the middle east. it went into the radical mosques and produced the hamas and hezbollah and the like. so i still believe it's not just an important project from a national security point of view, because democracies don't hire child soldiers, don't invade their neighbors, don't harbor terrorists knowingly. democracies are good citizens. we need to stand for the fact that we want more of them. >> so let me ask you one act of democracy promotion that boomeranged. hillary clinton gave a speech in 2011 where she supported a democracy movement in russia. putin watched it and was clearly enraged. there's good intelligence that suggests that is in part behind the russian efforts to interfere
7:29 am
in the 2016 election. do you buy that line, and do you believe that the russians did intervene to try to hurt hillary clinton and support donald trump? >> well, as you know, the russians -- the soviets for many, many years tried to intervene in internal politics in the united states by going to people who were disaffected and creating what they call fifth columns, people inside the united states who could be turned against the united states. social media, the internet makes it more efficient and makes it easier to do that kind of thing. we now know they tried to set american populations against one another. i do believe some of it was vladimir putin. you called my election fraudulent, so now i'm going to show you. i think it was more about his animus for hillary clinton than it was for trying to elect any particular person. but i really do believe that now our job has got to be to figure out first of all really how did
7:30 am
they do it, and shame on them the first time for doing it. shame on us if they can do it a second time. i worry that in all the conversation about what happened in the transition, what happened, we need to know all of that. but i think bob mueller will get to the bottom of it, somebody for whom i have enormous respect, by the way. he's a fair-minded person. i would hope that we're also spending as much time, if not more, on figuring out what it is the russians did and protecting ourselves. >> one of the dictums james baker always has is no secretary of state can be effective without the trust of the president. what do you make of rex tillerson? the only secretary of state who seems to be in a witness protection program. >> i think rex tillerson, he was just at stanford a little while ago and spoke on syria. he's doing the work of the
7:31 am
diplomacy daily. i do think they're making some progress, for instance, on isolation of north korea. i think a lot of that is the work of rex tillerson. i think he is the only thing keeping the russia relationship alive. he's spending time on the diplomacy. the relationship with the president, it's hard. but i think what's hard is to get up every day and not know what the president said at 3:00 in the morning. that would be exceedingly difficult. but i think that rex tillerson, in an unusual administration with an unusual president who's never been in government before, is really doing a very good job on the diplomacy and just putting his head down and going about that work. under these circumstances, i think that's the best thing to do. >> you're a person for whom character matters a lot. you're very disciplined yourself. could you serve donald trump in any high capacity given what you know about him as a person? >> well, i'm never going back to serve any president. so we don't need to worry about
7:32 am
that. he's the president of the united states, right. i think people know that he wasn't my choice to be president of the united states, but i respect the office. i respect those who choose to serve. a lot of my friends have chosen to serving and i'm glad they have because whatever you think about the inhabitant of the white house at any given time, and the founding fathers understa understood that it couldn't by about one person. it had to be about something called the presidency. they also had a healthy dislike for executive power. so they gave us two houses of congress, a court system. they gave us governors, now 50 of them, with state legislatures and so i think america is just fine. do i like some of the language that comes out of this white house? no. i do recognize that it's a different circumstance with social media and a president who's never been in government
7:33 am
before. sometimes it makes me uncomfortable, what i see and hear. but we as americans have to also respect our system, and i think our system is working quite well. >> condoleezza rice, always a pleasure. >> thank you. next on "gps," when isis was picking up steam in iraq and syria, pundits issue dire warnings about the handful of americans who went over to fight with the terrorists instead of against them. the worry was what would happen when these trained terrorists returned to america. but it turns out they weren't the ones we should have been worried about in the first place. i'll explain when we come back.
7:34 am
7:35 am
mvo: you're not doing work to help somebody, you're gaining something from meeting mr. adderley. it's a calling to not only everybody in this neighborhood in miami, but to the nation how great we are. and how great we can be. ♪ ♪ i'll stand by you. ♪ i'll stand by you. ♪ and i'll never desert you. ♪ i'll stand by you. he gets the best deal on the perfect hotel by using. tripadvisor! that's because tripadvisor lets you start your trip on the right foot... by comparing prices from over 200 booking sites to find the right hotel for you at the lowest price. saving you up to 30%!
7:36 am
you'll be bathing in savings! tripadvisor. check the latest reviews and lowest prices. his life is pretty comfortable. then, he laid on a serta and realized his life was only just sorta comfortable. i've been living a lie. the new serta icomfort hybrid mattress. not just sorta comfortable, serta comfortable.
7:37 am
now for our "what in the world" segment. by now, i would hope that we all realize that school shootings like last month's horrific attack in florida are tragic but too common feature of american life. they're far, far more frequent,
7:38 am
say, than islamist terror attacks in this country. i'll give you the numbers. since 2015, there have been at least 158 school shootings alone. by comparison, in the last seven years combined, there have been 22 jihadist attacks. we fear islamic terrorists so much perhaps because we are so far removed from the motivations behind such violence. but there's now fascinating new research that helps to put that fear in perspective. a new report out by the program on extremism at george washington university studied american jihadists who traveled to syria and iraq since 2011. most american fighters were duds, failing to actually see combat, wrote the new yorker's robin wright. moreover, the study reports few of them tried to come back, and none ever successfully carried out an attack at home in the u.s. so fear is about a massive influx of returning isis
7:39 am
fighters, which was stoked by pundits far and wide during the group's rise, turned out to be totally overblown. but that doesn't mean that america has nothing to fear. research shows that it is the homegrown extremists who are the much bigger problem. these are the people who carry out isis-inspired attacks in the u.s. now, what makes them do it? it turns out it is the tech savvy methods rather than some ancient theology. isis has used its online presence to exploit american as a result -- vulnerabilities. jihad has a high proportion of converts in its ranks in the west, partly because some are isolated from their families and look elsewhere for support, as expert told "the economist."
7:40 am
one 2010 estimate says converts make up less than 4% of the population in uk. in the video, he pitches the life as a normal one before he dies in the supposed glory of battle. this is the kind of hero narrative that works well in so many movies and television shows, especially when targeted at young alienated men searching for meaning and purpose in their lives, says a professor of political science at the university of chicago. it seems to be working. according to a report last year by the university of chicago's project on security and threats, isis was much more successful in recruiting americans than al qaeda. america needs a strategy to counter radicalization, monitor
7:41 am
cyberspace, and learn how to find and catch online recruiting as well as make better contacts and communication with muslim communities and leaders throughout the country. instead, the administration has stoked fears of outsiders and advocated for immigration restrictions, a bogus solution to the wrong problem in a country that already has tight screening of immigrants and takes in a handful of refugees. in other words, we need a strategy as sophisticated as that of isis, not one that plays into its hands. up next, it's hollywood's biggest weekend, culminating in sunday night's academy awards. recently, the ceremony has been mired in controversy for being, well, so very white. i'm not talking about the color of the dresses or the tuxedo shirts. diversity in hollywood is what we will discuss when we come back. join the un-carrier right now, and get four unlimited lines for only thirty-five bucks each. woah. plus, netflix for the whole family. on us.
7:42 am
prrrrrrr... so, they get their shows... let's go, girl! you're gonna love this bit! and you get yours. watch however you want. on your phone, tablet, or tv. for a limited time, get 4 lines for just thirty-five bucks per line, with no extra charges. it's showtime! all on america's best unlimited network, t-mobile. the roasted core wrap.belly fat. 3, 2, 1... not cool. freezing away fat cells with coolsculpting? now that's cool! coolsculpting safely freezes and removes fat cells with little or no downtime. and no surgery. results and patient experience may vary. some rare side effects include temporary numbness, discomfort and swelling. ask your doctor if coolsculpting is right for you and visit coolsculpting.com today... for your chance to win a free treatment. smile dad. i take medication for high blood pressure and cholesterol. but they might not be enough to protect my heart. adding bayer aspirin can further reduce the risk of another heart attack. because my second chance matters.
7:43 am
be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. i thought i was managing my moderate to severe crohn's disease. then i realized something was missing... me. my symptoms were keeping me from being there. so, i talked to my doctor and learned humira is for people who still have symptoms of crohn's disease after trying other medications. and the majority of people on humira saw significant symptom relief and many achieved remission in as little as 4 weeks. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb.
7:44 am
tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. be there for you, and them. ask your gastroenterologist about humira. with humira, remission is possible. we need to be ready for my name's scott strenfel and r i'm a meteorologist at pg&e. we make sure that our crews as well as our customers are prepared to how weather may impact their energy. so every single day we're monitoring the weather, and when storm events arise our forecast get crews out ahead of the storm to minimize any outages. during storm season we want our customers to be ready and stay safe. learn how you can be prepared at pge.com/beprepared.
7:45 am
together, we're building a better california.
7:46 am
oscars so white. that is the hashtag that has bedeviled the academy of motion picture arts and sciences for many years. in 2015 and 2016, all of the actors and actresses nominated were, you guessed it, white. contrast this with the runaway success today of "black panther," the superhero film helmed by an african-american star. so it was a fitting week, perhaps, for a uh new report on diversity in hollywood. i wanted to learn the findings of the report and to talk about whether "black panther" has changed things. joining me now is darnell hunt, the report's lead author and the dean of social sciences at ucla. linda is a return guest on "gps," producer of hits like "sleepless in seattle" and "contact." she's also the author of a terrific book "sleepless in hollywood." so tell us what the bottom line is. you say looking back over the last five years, and obviously it doesn't include the "black
7:47 am
panther," the story is one of progress but missed opportunities. >> yeah, i mean, you know, it's a longitudinal project. we want to chart the trends over time. unfortunately, what we're seeing in film is slow progress at best in a few areas. obviously we had a breakout year in 2013 with "12 years a slave," "the butler." "moonlight" won best picture last year. "black panther" is breaking all the records here. but when you look behind the scenes at directors, women aren't doing very well. people of color are more or less stagnant. in terms of lead roles, if you look at all the films, again, a few bright spots but nothing that suggests that we're about to see a major seat change in what's happening in hollywood. >> linda, that's the big picture, aggregate numbers. it's also looking backward. you're living this world.
7:48 am
what is the snapshot of the reality today that you feel? >> well, i think that it is, in fact, a seat change that i'm experiences anecdotally. i think we can look forward to both in terms of hiring of women directors. this year i tried to hire a woman director for "pilot." every single one i knew was unavailable. additionally, let's discuss "get out first." it's probably the industry's favorite movie this year. first of all, it reinvented a genre. it is a horror satire that gave the point of view of african-americans in the suburbs in a way that i think i'll probably never experience the suburbs where i grew up again. it was also i hhilarious. it was also terrifying. there are probably ten more "get
7:49 am
outs" being created right now in one way or another. it took an actor that nobody knew and turned him into a movie star and showed that you could make a movie for a price. you could open it, and it could become a domestic hit with a director you didn't know and a star you didn't know, and it didn't matter. >> let me ask about "black panther." i can see where you're going. so i think that the argument, you know, many people in the industry make is, look, there's no more bunch of liberal people than in hollywood. this is not some deep, perversive racism. people just don't think it will work commercially. the minute they see it will work commercially, boom, you'll see things explode. >> exactly. >> there's some truth to that for sure. i think there are differences between television and film. we're seeing a lot more progress in television right now. in fact, in terms of the progress we referred to in a subtitle i report, much of that
7:50 am
progress is in television, which i argue is sort of like, you know, a preview of what's to come in film. demographically, the handwriting is on the wall. this has got to change. people of color are already 40% of the population. their share is increasing about half a percent per year. last year they bought more than half the tickets for half of the top ten films. so clearly the market power is there. so yeah, "black panther" is showing what's possible. >> linda -- >> i just -- >> yeah, let me ask you this. it relates to something you've written about. you've written very persuasively, the big shift that's taken place in hollywood that most of us don't realize is the death of the dvd business took away the big fat profits for hollywood. the new profits were all in overseas markets. that meant you had to make big, spectacular movies with not a lot of dialogue and not a lot of character development. some of us wish it were otherwise. but the point is that might seem an ideal opportunity to have a kind of diverse cast because
7:51 am
you're trying to sell into china and india and latin america and africa. are directors and producers recognizing that? >> well, what's interesting is that that was what kept african-american actors out of blockbusters for the longest time. in the absence of evidence that black stars worked internationally, they were by and large marginalized in blockbusters. however, the interesting thing is that blockbusters create stars. it's the idea that's the star. so that chris pratt was a television star and is now a movie star that can green light a movie. not only is the "black panther" going to get more spin-offs, but each of these characters are going to get more spin-offs. we can imagine a world in which lupita lupi
7:52 am
lupita nyong'o -- we can imagine a world in which all of these actors will be green lights movies. however, it takes three to five years to create movies. and sometimes longer. so the progress to create the phenomenon that's going to occur in the wake of "black panther" and "get out" is going to cycle much more quickly now, but we're going to see a quantum change in the wake of the past year, and that past year is still the result of oscar so white, the reaction to oscar so white. >> all right. we'll have to leave it at that hopeful note. i'm sure darnell will do another study in five years and we'll find out whether it did, in fact, happen. thank you both so much. >> thank you, thank you. or make me feel like i'm not really "there." talk to your doctor, and call 844-234-2424.
7:53 am
thisat red lobsterest. with exciting new dishes like dueling lobster tails and lobster truffle mac & cheese. classics like lobster lover's dream are here too. so enjoy these 10 lobsterlicious dishes while you can because lobsterfest won't last. you wouldn't accept from any one else. so why accept it from your allergy pills? most pills don't finish the job because they don't relieve nasal congestion. flonase allergy relief is different. flonase relieves sneezing, itchy, watery eyes and a runny nose, plus nasal congestion, which pills don't. flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances. most pills only block one. and 6 is greater than 1. start your day with flonase for more complete allergy relief. flonase. this changes everything. alright, i brought in high protein to help get us moving. ...and help you feel more strength and energy in just two weeks! i'll take that. -yeeeeeah! ensure high protein. with 16 grams of protein and 4 grams of sugar. ensure. always be you.
7:54 am
want us to do about what woulthis president?fathers i'm tom steyer, and when those patriots wrote the constitution here in philadelphia, they had just repelled an invading foreign power. so they created the commander in chief to protect us from enemy attack. the justice department just indicted 13 russians for sabotaging our elections. an electronic attack on america that the chief investigator called "warfare". so what did this president do? nothing. and is he doing anything to prevent a future attack? the head of the fbi says no. this president has failed his most important responsibility- protecting our country. the first question is: why? what is in his and his family's business dealings with russia that he is so determined to hide, that he'd betray our country? and the second question is: why is he still president? join us today. we have to do something.
7:55 am
(vo)just one touch.ith with fancy feast creamy delights, she can have just the right touch of real milk. easily digestible, it makes her favorite entrées even more delightful. fancy feast creamy delights. love is in the details. we're all under one roof now. congratulations. thank you. how many kids? my two. his three. along with two dogs and jake, our new parrot. that is quite the family. quite a lot of colleges to pay for though. a lot of colleges. you get any financial advice? yeah, but i'm pretty sure it's the same plan they sold me before. well your situation's totally changed now. right, right. how 'bout a plan that works for 5 kids, 2 dogs and jake over here? that would be great. that would be great. that okay with you, jake? get a portfolio that works for you now and as your needs change from td ameritrade investment management.
7:56 am
we have one to two fires a day and when you respond together and you put your lives on the line, you do have to surround yourself with experts. and for us the expert in gas and electric is pg&e. we run about 2,500/2,800 fire calls a year and on almost every one of those calls pg&e is responding to that call as well. and so when we show up to a fire and pg&e shows up with us it makes a tremendous team during a moment of crisis. i rely on them, the firefighters in this department rely on them, and so we have to practice safety everyday. utilizing pg&e's talent and expertise in that area trains our firefighters on the gas or electric aspect of a fire and when we have an emergency situation we are going to be much more skilled and prepared to mitigate that emergency for all concerned. the things we do every single day that puts ourselves in harm's way, and to have a partner that is so skilled at what they do is indispensable, and i couldn't ask for a better partner.
7:57 am
as the world reacted this week to new rules expected to allow xi jinping to rule china indefinitely, the reaction inside china was muffled by the sensors, of course. it brings manye to my question. social media posts about which cartoon character were widely blocked in china. tweety bird, fred flinstone, betty boop, or winnie the pooh. my book of the week is "how to think" by alan jacobs. he is determined to rouse us out of our intellectual laziness and brilliantly and wisely shows us why and how to think well. this book is a revelation and a pleasure. it is one of the most original books i have encountered in a
7:58 am
long while. run, don't walk, to get it. now for the last look. santa claus is enjoying some balmy weather this month. temperatures in the earth's northern most regions have been above freezing much more than expected despite complete darkness during winter months. a scientist at uc irvine took to twitter to explain just why this was remarkable. the red line is 2018. the blue is average temperatures for the arctic region. you can see how far it is above normal. why do we care about whacky weather where no one lives? because what happens up there affects us down here. as we have seen with extreme cold across europe this week. you see, usually a giant low-pressure zone of freezing air called the polar vortex sits above the arctic circle, held in place by strong circulating winds. when warm air moved towards the arctic in the past, it will pass over a vast shield of sea ice, which cooled and weakened the
7:59 am
warm-air system to the point it had no noticeable effect on the polar vortex. after decades of global warming, the national oceanic and atmospheric administration reports that arctic sea ice covers the smallest area ever at this time of year. warm air systems hit the polar vortex without cooling as much. that pushed icy arctic air into north america and europe. and with sea ice coverage on a downward trend, we can expect more of the same in the future. so despite president trump's tweet about cold weather meant we could use a bit of global warming, we've already got it, and ironically, it's making us all quite chilly. the answer to the "gps" challenge question is d, win, in -- winnie the pooh. the character has become a stand-in for the chinese president since he met with president obama. after the announcement that presidential term limits would be abolished, people shared
8:00 am
pictures of pooh with captions like "find the thing you love and stick with it." only to find the post taken down or blocked, according to censorship watchdog china digital times. the censorship was just one more reason chinese supporters of democratization were left feeling like eeyore this week. on the agenda today, a white house in crisis and a white house press corps trying to make sense of the chaos. a president now described as unglued, unraveling, uncontrollable. where are reporters getting these quotes from? and at the white house with hope hicks leaving, is the relationship between the press corps and the president all but hopeless? later, fox hosts are in denial about the damning russia