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>> plus, the oscars balance serious messages with lighthearted fun. we're live from cnn world headquarters in atlanta. well want to welcome our viewer here is in the united states and all around the world. i'm george houchlt. >> and i'm rosemary church. "cnn newsroom" starts right now. and we start with what could be a diplomatic breakthrough in north korea. a high level delegation from south korea has left for pyongyang. it's led by south korea's national security chief, and might put direct dialogue between the united states and north korea on the agenda. >> on saturday, the u.s. president donald trump said north korea wanted to talk, but would have to abandon its nuclear weapons. here show north korea responded to that. quote, the united states that was terrified at the rapid development of our nuclear force, and has continued to knock the door of dialogue now
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feigns an indifference, making north korea abandon nuclear weapons and insist in maximum pressure until complete denuclearization is realized, that is really more than ridiculous. let's go now live to seoul, south korea. cnn's andrew stevens following this story. andrew, north korea essentially responding, saying the idea that they would denuke, as the president has suggested, that idea ridiculous. the door still open from what you're hearing for progress with this delegation? >> well, the door is open, just purely on the fact that this delegation has actually gone, is actually now in pyongyang, george. and that is a breakthrough in itself. there will be discussions also on inter-korean dialogue. there is suggestions that this end at least that the president moon of south korea is keen for a summit between kim jong-un and the south korean leader.
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some time this year that is a hope at this stage. officials have been very cage. >> about saying exactly what they are going to be talking about as far as any resolution is concerned. just listen to the head of this delegation. his name is chung eui-yong. listen to what he had to say in a very brief briefing what was planned in pyongyang. >> i will communicate clearly the will and intention the president who wants the denuclearization of the korean peninsula and create a lasting peace by utilizing the flow of the inter-korean dialogue, an improvement of the relationship that was built during the pyeongchang olympic games. >> i think the best way to put this at this stage, george, it's talks about talks. as you point out, there is polar opposite between the u.s. and
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north korea on whether or not nukes should be on the table, when and if the north and the u.s. actually sit down to look at each other across a taking. the north has never shown any indication that it is prepared to pull back the scale to its nuclear program. and donald trump certainly has never suggested that the u.s. would talk without that being on the table. so talks about talks. it's going to be very, very incremental on how this progresses. and there is also something of a window here given the fact that this detente, if you like, really started when kim jong-un said in his new year speech that relations between the south and north should improve. we have seen meetings on this side of the border between the north and the south. we've seen the olympics, the two teams marched together at the opening of the olympics. so we have seen some movement there but after the paralympics, which end in the middle of march, in april, there is the
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annual military drills between south korea and the u.s., the two military allies there. how those drills will be perceived in north korea, which has always been enraged by them, and just how large scale they could be may depend on what happens in these talks in pyongyang. >> all right, andrew, talks about talks. and certainly a great deal of skepticism on the u.s. side about the motives of kim jong-un. we'll have to see what comes out of those talks. andrew, thank you for the reporting. this week president trump could push ahead with his proposed tariffs on steel and aluminum. >> yes. james davis is the dean at the school of economics and political science at the university. he joins us now from munich via skype. thank you so much for being with us. >> good morning. >> let's start on this trade issue. because on march 1, president trump slapped major tariffs on
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steel and aluminum imports. and there is a concern this could very well trigger a trade war. but the president doesn't think that's such a bad idea. what do you say than? >> well, of course it would be a bad idea. a trade war is a war that nobody wins. the consumers don't win because prices go up. industry doesn't win because any time you take away competition, the incentive to innovate, to become more efficient drops away. international relations will not win. the cooperation that we had with our allies will be strained by this. this is not a good idea. and it's nothing that can be won. and the other part is you wonder if the president really understands much about the international trading system today. this is not a system where tariff wars bring anybody advantages. this is a system where we have production that's integrated globally in a way that you really won't be able to manage
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through a blunt instrument like tariffs to begin with. i'm sitting in munich, the headquarters of bmw. i don't know if the president realizes bmw makes more cars in the united states in south carolina than it does in germany at this point. >> interesting. and this is what president trump tweeted sunday evening. i'll just tweet this out. we are on the losing side of almost all trade deals. our friends and enemies have taken advantage of the u.s. for many years. sour steel and aluminum industries are dead. sorry, it's time for change. make america great again. so what is your assessment of this? is he right? is it time for a change? or is that moving into pretty dangerous territory? >> look, there are efforts of some countries to take advantage of the united states in trade. that's nothing new. that's been around for a long time. the question is how do you deal with that. my suggestion to the president, to administration would be to lead on negotiations to
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recalibrate the international trading system. the way in which protectionism takes place and protectionism is going on in the world today, the way protectionism takes place is not through tariffs, but many more subtle means. the president if he were leading would try to get the international community to revisit the rules of the game, try to create a fair trading system, and then let america compete. and if that's the case, america can compete, we just look at industries out of california, high-tech industries. we're leaders around the world. so america is not losing everywhere. it may be losing in some areas. and we need to talk about how to get free and fair trade in those areas. but unilateral imposition of tariffs is not the way to go, if you ask me. >> right. and the president's comments about tariffs, those comments have overshadowed and distracted from the national conversation on gun control. we saw mr. trump at a bipartisan meeting last week appear open to quite radical gun controls it
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has to be said. but now he is distancing himself from those promises, just as he did on the bipartisan meeting on the dreamers. how likely it is that the president will do something of substance when it comes to gun control? or it is going to take some of the big companies like dick's and walmarts and as well as some of the states. they seem to be taking the lead here. and the president not and the congress not. >> right. i mean, last week the president went way off the republican and nra reservation, calling for serious gun control measures that i think shocked many members of his own party. if anybody remembers, today is the deadline for daca that the president set up, march 5th. it's going to come and go. so you almost think that the announcements on tariffs and a trade war are sort of a big attempt to change the subject to keep his base focused on something other than these issues on which he hasn't been able to move forward. but i don't think the issues are going away. we're going have a march for our
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lives, a march organized but these young students across the country on march 24th. a big rally in washington. we're going to have the daca issue with us for a long time. we have a number of immigrants that have this kind of limbo status. and that status has to be cleared up at some point. so the issues aren't going away. but this white house hasn't been able to focus on any issue for long enough to really move a positive agenda forward. it's very difficult when you have a week like last week which was pretty chaotic from everyone's standpoint. >> definitely a lot of distraction it has to be said. james davis, thank you so much for joining us. well appreciate it. >> thank you, rosemary. well, 3,000 delegates, two weeks and one central figure. china's de facto parliament, the national people's congress, is all about one man this year, president xi jinping. >> that's right. the 13th congress opened monday morning in beijing. this annual session is a key moment for mr. xi.
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presidential term limits are expected to be lifted. let's bring in cnn's will ripley following this story in beijing. without term limits, the president there could essentially rule for the rest of his life. >> that's right. potentially xi jinping is set up now to rule indefinitely. the chinese government spin on this is that the military and the party already don't have term limits. now by the state not having term limits, there can be consistency in leaderships during tum mouuls times. a lot of complex global issues. china's economy continues to grow. xi jinping apparently feels that he is the only person qualified in china to see through his vision for this country. that does mean he could potentially remain president for life. even though the chinese people did not elect him, this is an authoritarian one party state.
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our reporting here is blacked out every time we start to talk about it. chinese state media is talking a little bit about it. but their spin is it makes china no different from other country with no term limits. they brought up germany. but the term limits were set up by deng xiaoping back in 1982 to try to avoid a return for china to the bloody dictatorship of mao zedong who oversaw the cultural revolution, a time when many people were lifted out of poverty but many people died of starvation as a result. they wanted to have a peaceful transfer of power. xi jinping had the opportunity to solidify the transfer of power at the end of his second term. but clearly that is now not going to happen. >> looking back at the former leader, deng xiaoping, his vision focused on party. we're seeing a different approach with the current president of china.
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with leadership locked down, will, what does this mean for china and the national plans in the year to come? >> china moves forward with its plan laid out by the communist party there are about 3,000 delegates gathering for the national people's congress. it's china's top legislative body. but clearly, xi jinping is the man at the top. he has put himself in so many different positions of power that he oversees nearly all aspects of the way that this country is run. so they just announced, for example, they're going to increase their defense spending to 8.1% of their national budget. an increase from 7% last year. so they're spending more on their military, which they say is mostly to improve the conditions for the soldiers who are serving. and they also talk about the economy. they say the economy grew by around 7% last year. they were forecasting 6 1/2% growth next year, which is a pretty impressive growth rate when you look at a lot of other great countries around the world. that's what they tell the people here in china, that the communist party is leading this country in a direction of prosperity, that china's
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position in the world is growing. it is on the rise. and they can point to the situation in the united states. president donald trump, some of the chaos, even though they wouldn't say it publicly, they kind of like to contrast the stability here in china there are no mass school shootings here in china, for example. you tend to be safer when you walk on the streets. that's the case that they make to the chinese people. but of course anybody who wants to oppose what's happening here, they can't. social media posts are deleted. and news coverage, including cnn and all the other news networks are blacked out whenever we talk about this. >> will ripley on the story live in beijing. will, thank you. the academy awards showed the world that hollywood is trying to forge a new path ahead after months of scandal and controversy. amid the glitz and glamour of sunday night's show, stars and filmmakers shared the stage with activists and political activists. hosts jimmy kimmel and other presenters shown a light on the me too campaign and fighting for rights for women and minorities.
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musicians andra day performed "stand up for something" from the film "marshall." they were joined on the stage from activists from groups including black lives matter and the anti-gun group sandy hook promise. we'll have more on the oscars coverage a bit later in the show. still ahead here in the newsroom, florida lawmakers are taking on gun control after the deadly mass shooting that took place at a florida high school. what they could vote on in the coming hours, ahead. plus california is also taking action on gun control. we'll bring you along with agents as they search for weapons in the wrong hands. we're back in a moment. we do whatever it takes to fight cancer.
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welcome back, everyone. well, u.s. president donald trump shifting stance on gun control has left many wondering what he actually thinks about the issue. >> that's right. at a bipartisan meeting with senators last week, he appeared to support reforms like expanded background checks. but the next day the president met with a lobbyist for the national rifle association. after that meeting, the lobbyist tweeted that the president doesn't want gun control. >> yeah. and one of the lawmakers who met
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with mr. trump is calling on the president to show leadership. here is what he told cnn's ana cabrera. >> we're at this moment now where the ground is shifting on this issue. the support for an assault weapons ban, the support for banning high capacity magazines, the overwhelming support for universal background checks, and all of that happening with this incredible leadership of the student survivors makes this different. the president can do this. it not a question of weight for something to come to his desk. he can lead on this if he wants to, just as he told my colleagues when he looked at them and said you're afraid of the nra. he can't be afraid of the nra. he has to lead on this issue if we're going to do something to save live. that was ted deutch, a u.s. congressman from florida. state senate may vote on gun safety measures in the coming hours. >> the legislation could lead to
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some teachers being armed in classroom. th athena jones has the details. >> reporter: hi there. this is the last week of the legislative session, and florida lawmakers are racing to pass a bill and get to it governor scott's desk. after a rare saturday session in which senators spent eight hours debating the school safety measure, the senate is preparing to vote on the bill on monday. that vote would do several things. it would raise the age to purchase a weapon from 21 to 18 years old. it would require a three-day waiting period to guy a gun, with some exceptions. and it would ban the sale and possession of bump fire stocks. that's the accessory that allows people to make semiautomatic weapons fire like automatic weapons. the measure would also give law enforcement more power to seize weapons and ammunition from people deemed mentally unfit or otherwise a threat. it would provide additional funding for armed school resource officers and mental health services across the state. the most controversial version
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in this legislation is the marshall program. that's a program that would allow teachers and other personnel to be armed as long as they go through training. in this case 144 hours of training, including 12 hours of diversity training that was a provision insisted on by some members of the black caucus. this program would be voluntary. the sheriff and the school district would have to decide to implement it. and no teacher would be required to take part. and to be armed. but again, this is something that has been very controversial. it's gotten a lot of pushback. not just from students and teachers, but also from parents. and also from governor rick scott, who has said he is opposed to arming teachers. he said teachers should teach. but one question that governor scott has not answered yet is whether he would voeto any legislation that reaches his desk that would propose to arm teacher. as with any bill, there are folks on both sides who are not happy wit. you have democrats who wanted more gun control measures, for instance, an assault weapons ban. and there are republicans who
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believe that the gun measures in the bill have already gone too far. if this bill is able to pass the senate, it will move on to the house. and if it passes the house, on to the governor's desk. but really, time is rung out here. they have until friday to agree on something that can pass both chambers and make to it the governor. and then we'll have to see if the governor decides to sign a bill that includes arming that teachers provision. athena jones, cnn, tallahassee, florida. >> thank you. the state of florida is also taking action on gun control. >> stephanie elam reports agent there's as searching for and taking away weapons that are in the wrong hands. more than 6 now rounds of ammunition, three semiautomatic weapons, a shotgun, and a pistol. >> one of the assault weapons was fixed with a bump stock. >> bump stocks like what the vegas mass shooter used to mimic automatic firing were banned in california in 1990. all together, it's an arsenal
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57-year-old timothy pope is not allowed to have. >> i forgot they're even here, really. >> reporter: he was previously convicted of possessing a destructive device, a felony. do you being notified and told you can't have guns anymore? >> yeah. in the court. >> reporter: how do you feel right now? >> stupid. >> reporter: this bust coming at the end of the daily mission for these california department of justice agents who door knocked targeted homes in search of weapons in the wrong hands. >> only in california do we have a law that permits us to seize these weapons. >> reporter: it's the only system of its kind in the nation. the armed prohibited persons person, or apps flags those who previously registered firearms, but were later deemed unfit to own a gun after a felony conviction, violent misdemeanor, domestic violence restraining order, or found to be mentally unstable. using the app's data, agents visit pope, who now likely faces a new set of felony charges,
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including the possession of so-called ghost guns, homemade weapons free of serial numbers officials use to track guns. >> can you imagine if these guns got in the wrong hands through a burglary? >> reporter: california's department of justice has recovered 18,000 firearms since the program began. more than 10,000 people are on the list statewide. as the country is again embroiled in the gun debate, some point out apps would not have caught the mass shooters in san bernardino and isla vista, california. there are people throughout who say with all the shootings we have seen across the country, that none of this, the apps program would not have stopped that. what do you say to that? >> i say it's impossible for us to measure the success of this operation. nobody knows whether or not one of the guns we seized would have been the next mass shooting. >> reporter: another concern for second amendment advocates, how well the database is kept up to date. >> and the people that are prohibited are appropriately notified and given ample opportunity to get rid of the
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firearms and ammunition so that they're not in further violation of the law. >> reporter: but after a night like this, these officers believe apps is a good place to start. and that other states should follow california's lead. stephanie elam, cnn, los angeles. and coming up, it is a busy day ahead for president trump. but at least he will see a friendly face. what's on the agenda as he meets with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. that's ahead. also, hollywood's biggest night, it has come and gone. did oscars live up to the hype? we'll talk about that that and much more with a film critic a little later in the show. stay with us. s rick blomquist of de pere, wisconsin. his life is... pretty comfortable. rick blomquist thought he had comfort all figured out. but then, he laid on a serta and realized his life was only just sorta comfortable. i've been living a lie. the new serta icomfort hybrid mattress. not just sorta comfortable, serta comfortable.
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a very warm welcome back to our viewers here in the united states and of course all around the world you. are watching "cnn newsroom." i'm rosemary church. >> and i'm george howell with the headlines we're following for you this hour. a high level south korean delegation has left for north korea. it includes south korea's national security chief and might discuss direct dialogue between the united states and pyongyang. president trump said on saturday that north korea wanted to talk, but it would have to abandon its nuclear weapons program first. final results in italy's parliamentary election won't be known for a few hours. exit polls show no outright winner. the center right coalition supported by former prime minister silvio berlusconi could gain the most seats. right behind it, the anti-establishment five-star movement. president trump could sign his proposed tariffs on steel and aluminum in a matter of days. the white house trade adviser tells cnn no countries will be excluded from the tariffs.
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the economists are warning the measure could hurt the u.s. economy and lead other countries to retaliation. and fears of a global trade war are rattling the world marks. in hong kong, japan, india, all in negative territory. >> and it is early in the trading day in europe where political uncertainty. italy is weighing in on the markets. the ftse, the cac 40 and the zurich smi all seeing gangs. the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu is starting his week in washington, despite facing a corruption scandal back at home. >> in the coming hours he'll met with president trump at the white house. on the agenda, iran, and moving the u.s. embassy to jerusalem. mr. netanyahu will also attend a conference of the pro israel lobby apac. ian lee joins us now live from jerusalem.
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ian, facing a corruption scandal at home. mr. netanyahu meeting with u.s. president trump in washington, d.c. in the coming hours. what do you think he is hoping to achieve, apart from hopefully getting a away from his troubles back home? >> rosemary, we've got a lot to unpack here for you. first off, this is a feel-good trip for both men. both men like each other. the bases of both men like each other. for the prime minister, though, the number one issue he wants to talk about is iran. this is a topic he's talked about quite often. it's one of his main issues. iran's influence in neighboring syria during that civil war as well as lebanon, as well as iran's nuclear program. and this nuclear deal, which the prime minister has said nix it or fix it. essentially saying that he doesn't like it, and he wants the united states to help push to change it. for president trump, there is also the peace process. we're hearing that they have a
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plan, although we haven't talked to anyone who has actually seen it. we would like to see it. but there is a plan, a peace plan, something he has been working on, special his special envoys have been working on. so that something that they would probably discuss, although the palestinians have said that right now they have no interest in working with the americans. so that's going to be an obstacle for them. and then you the u.s. embassy. something that both men have been championing. something that they're both excited about. we're hearing that president trump could possibly be invited for the ribbon cutting ceremony, rosemary. >> all right. ian lee, watching what is happening from his vantage point there in jerusalem. many thanks to you. and mr. netanyahu is not president trump's only visitor in the hours ahead. he also is expected to meet with u.n. ambassador nikki haley. and this comes as she is struggling to implement a ceasefire in syria.
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the u.n. security council voted for the truce more than a week ago, but violence has not let up in places like eastern ghouta. >> state media say the military just seized several villages in the rebel held enclave. the u.n. reports around 600 people have been killed since an offensive started last month. it hopes to deliver aid to eastern ghouta this week, but it's been blocked before. the syrian president claims his government is trying to help civilians. but the u.s. says his forces are targeting them. listen. >> when we speak about the resolution, there are some positives that allow for the achievement of humanitarian goals at the same time as allowing us to achieve the goal of hitting the terrorists. this why we have to continue with our operation while at the same time allowing civilians to leave to the state areas. >> cnn's jomana karadsheh is following this story live in aman, jordan. jomana, so we just heard the syrian president say that, you know, the operation continues. but at the same time, they are
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trying to help civilians. do civilians trust the government to allow them to pass? how is this playing out? because there was a truth that was supposed to stop all of this fighting. but the bombs continue. >> well, this has been the issue, george, over the past week or so. you know, we heard from russian president vladimir putin announcing that humanitarian pause in the fighting during 9:00 a.m. and 2:00 p.m., saying that during that time, this was to allow civilians leave, aid to come in. the critically wounded, the ill to leave for urgent medical treatment. but we really did not see civilians leave during that time. and, you know, we've heard from both sides. you had the syrian regime on the one hand saying it is the rebel group's inside eastern ghouta that are stopping those civilians from leaving. it was the rebel groups that were targeting those designated roots to the humanitarian
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corridor that would allow the civilians to leave. it's been part of the government's narrative. they are saying that they are holding -- these rebels are holding civilians hostage to use them as human shields. on the other hand, we've heard from the rebels. we've heard from activists on the ground in eastern ghouta saying it was the regime, and it was the russians that continued to target these different areas. we've seen a death toll that continued to rise. there was no real commitment to this humanitarian pause. we've heard from civilians in eastern ghouta over the past couple of weeks. and people say they don't want to leave their homes. what they want is for the bombing to stop. what you essentially have here is a serious lack of trust. they are concerned that when you look at who is making these promises, it is the russians. people don't view the russians here as a neutral party in all of this. so they're really concerned about taking that risk of trying to leave, concerned about where they will end up. they are surrounded by regime
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controlled areas. so they would end up in regime-controlled areas. and people would say that they might be imprisoned, or they might have a worse fate than that. it is a very complex situation on the ground. and at the end of the da you have a blame game between the regime, between the civilians and it is the civilians who continue to suffer. >> civilians who have to decide whether they can trust to move freely to escape the bombing, just thinking about what they have gone through. bombs day after day, and now do you trust outside and try to leave it. jomana karadsheh, thank you for reporting live in aman, jordan. monday it was supposed to be the deadline for daca, the day that the trump administration ended protections for young immigrants brought to the u.s. illegally as children. but court actions and a stalemate on capitol hill, both mean these young people called dreamers are stuck in limo. >> some of them will be on capitol hill later on monday
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telling their stories. on sunday, the american civil liberties union held a rally to try to keep daca front and center. sara sidner has been talking to three dreamers who say they feel as though people in power are playing with their lives. >> reporter: these interest faces of dreamers. one of 250,000 daca recipients born in india. christine is born in south korea. and oscar is one of 544,150 recipients born in mexico. monday was supposed to be doomsday for a program that allows them and nearly 700,000 others to be in the united states legally. president trump set march 5th. >> i have a love for these people, and now hopefully congress will be able to help them and do it properly. >> but they didn't. he says he has a heart. but then he ended the program. what does that tell you? >> he has a heart that beats,
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but that doesn't mean anything. everyone's hearts can beat. but can he relate to us? >> it almost feels like we're just a game, you know, like this is one big chess game for them. >> reporter: according to a lawsuit filed in new york against the department of homeland security, the march 5th memo would have meant 1400 daca recipients would lose their status every working day. but the supreme court stayed out of the dispute which allowed a federal court ruling that the memo cannot be allowed to stand while the case goes through the court. it means daca recipients have been left in limo. a second mother to her sister and an income earner all while attending chej and dealing with pain. >> people think because we're here and we're leaching off the government. but we don't have medi-cal. half of my mouth is rotting. >> reporter: as a daca recipient, she is not eligible for medical insurance programs or federal financial aid for school. >> i'm emotional because some
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days it feels like our sacrifices aren't enough. and our trauma isn't enough. >> reporter: oscar was his high school class president. but then his father got deported. since then, he has had to work up to four jobs at a time to help his mother feed a family of six. >> i work in the swap meet, a taco stand. i worked in a food restaurant, just about anything, just to make sure my family has food on the table. >> reporter: now he manages work and college. >> when do you sleep? >> hardly ever. >> reporter: christine got into the college of her dreams. her father tried to pay for it, but that dream eventually died with no financial aid. >> he wanted me to be there. and every time i see him write the amounts on the check, just seeing that, i just couldn't anymore. >> reporter: at 25, she now works at the korean resource center, hoping to make a better life for other immigrants like her. she says politicians have failed them. >> it's quite tiring,
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exhausting. to know that people are playing with your life. >> sara sidner. >> yeah. >> thank you. will take a short break. when we come back, the ballots are being counted in italy's election. could an anti-establishment party be the linchpin of its next government? we will take you live to rome for an update. back in a moment. at the marine mammal center, the environment is everything.
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italy looks to have a hung parliament after sunday's general election. as of now, exit polls show no outright winner. the anti-establishment five star movement is projected to get the most votes by a single party. >> but a center right coalition put together by former prime minister silvio berlusconi looks like it will gain the most seats in the senate. final results are expected in just a few hours from now. well italy is the eurozone's third largest economy, and this election could have major implications across europe.
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cnn contributor barbie nadeau joins us now from rome with more on. this barbie, no clear winner at this point. how is it populist parties appear to have gained ground at the expense of establishment voices in the parliamentary elections, and what could that mean for the outcome in italy? >> well, it's very clear that italians voted for anti-establishment party. 50% of the vote went to either the five star movement or the league, which was formally known as the northern league, which is a far right party under the direction of matteo salvini. they both campaigned on anti-immigration and euro skepticism. and i think that whatever ends up being the ruling party of this government, whatever sort of coalition they can cobble together, the message is clear that the status quo is no longer the ruling party of italy. the old establishment is gone. and we've seen lots of commentary this morning about just what that means. the youth vote was loud and
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clear. anti-immigration vote was loud and clear. and this euro skepticism seems to be one of the underlying factors in the way this ballot went. but there is a long way to go yet, rosemary, before we know who is going to be in the seat of the prime minister, you know. it could take days, certainly even weeks before any sort of coalition is cobbled together. that center right coalition what won the most seats is in question now because that was formed with silvio berlusconi's party as the lead party of that coalition. right now matteo salvini is in the driver's seat of that party. so anything could happen at this point, rosemary. >> yes, certainly. we'll watch to see what this political shift means for italy. and indeed for europe. barbie nadeau joining us there from rome where it is 9:45 in the morning. many thanks. the most glamorous night in hollywood is now over. we take a look at who took home oscars and how the time's up movement played out on stage.
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serious topics. host jimmy kimmel set the tone early on, calling out harassment and inequality plaguing the industry. and throughout the night, stars shed a spotlight on diversity and inclusion. >> but the films still took center stage. "the shape of water" swept the top awards winning best picture and best director. and there was little surprise in the acting categories. frances mcdormand took home the best actress oscar. and gary oldman won best actor for "darkest hour." let's bring in film critic richard fitswilliams in live in our london bureau. good to have you with us. let's talk about best picture, "the shape of water" winning that category. this film based in fantasy and in imagination. what did i don't make of this pick? >> well, i think it's historic because this is the only fantasy film ever to win best picture, unless you countdown "lord of the rings: return of the king" which was part of a series. and it's a very unusual story, set in the cold war of the
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affair that a mute cleaner has with a sea creature. it's fantastic in the sense that it's beautifully colored. and it's one of those very, very intriguing films which draw you in, a very unusual movie. but certainly between that and "three billboards" with the academy's weighting system for voting, there was huge question marks throughout the entire ceremony. it kept the tension going. we didn't know whether "the shape of water" or "all three billboards was going to win. >> we mentioned best actor that went to gary oldman and his impressive transformation and portrayal of winston churchill in "darkest hour." best actress to frances mcdormand for "three billboards," her role in that. but it was her speech really that resonated in that audience, especially in the context of the me too and time's up movement. >> absolutely. and she really bought the women
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in the audience to their feet because she quite correctly identified many of the problems in the industry. the diversity difficulty. remember the #oscarsowhite. and also the problem of inequality in women's roles and women's pay with the fact that the bosses make decisions that favor the males. it's that, i think, that really was the important thing about that speech. she was wonderful as a bereaved mother who ferociously fighting back in "three billboards." she was bound to win and deserved it. >> and certainly as you point out asked people to stand up at that moment, a moment that will certainly be a defining moment of the show today. let's also talk about what we saw with activists joining on stage. we saw groups like black lives matter, the united farm workers of america, and the anti-gun group sandy hook promise
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focusing on messages, important messages here. >> yes. i think that it's very significant that award ceremonies and the entertainment industry as a whole, or at least the activists within it who are driving this are making shows of this sort a platform to spread a wider message. and this message is supposed to resonate far beyond the actual industry itself and help those in other fields, help victims, and also campaign the issue of the right to bear arms and the abuses of that right is very, very significant i think too. so you've got vast numbers of people tuning in to see something that is spectacular and a fabulous fashion fest, but you've got very serious issues. and when oscar celebrate 100 years in ten years' time, let's
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hope these issues will have been resolved positively by then or long before then. >> richard, we saw history made as well with the movie "get out." jordan peele the first african american to win for best picture. >> this was very significant that he won for best -- best screenplay it was, actually. but he was the first to -- person whose debut it was for "get out" to be nominated for best director and best picture and best screenplay, best original screenplay i think it was. and i think that this movie was the dark horse. because we weren't sure perhaps "three billboards" and "the shape of water" locking horns. but because of the way the academy votes for best picture, "get out" could have won best prize. it's a very powerful indictment of racism and a movie very much
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of the sort of contemporary sort which oscar is choosing. it's choosing the low budget ones. look at recent winners. "moonlight." "spotlight," "birdman." very different than won before. >> we also saw warren beatty and faye dunaway back on stage again getting a second shot to present the category for best picture. did they seem a little nervous up there? >> i thought that they seemed extremely nervous. and i think they remembered all too vividly what we all remembered, but to be fair to oscar, why not as a famous british politician was told by dame edna everridge, the australian drag queen, if you can't laugh at yourself, you're missing the joke of the century. and the academy did at least have a laugh at itself. because after all, that chaotic
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climactic mess was probably the worst thing we've seen on any stage and i think dunaway got away wit. >> we've have to go. thank you so much for your time, richard. and thank you for being with us in "newsroom". >> thanks, everyone. i'm rosemary church. >> and i'm george howell. have a great day. . . .
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