the state senate so don't expect stormy to go from a hash tag to a road sign. >> i will call whatever you want me to call you. >> reporter: how about stormy's ears? jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> thank you for joining us, anderson starts now. so just so you know, there are ten people waiting to do my job. john berman here in for anderson. ten super talented people for every white house job and no chaos. keeping them honest just about anyway you look at it is a picture of turbulence, turmoil and chaos. new and breaking evidence of it to want. and okay, i need to take a deep breath here, gary kohn is

resigning. anyone apparently over frustration focused largely on chaos at the white house. new reporting tonight that the president green lit the communication director he fired after ten-days on the job, anthony scaramucci. let him go on television and trash talk john kelly. the same john kelly who has put out three different stories on who knew what when on john porter. there is the departure of communication director hope hicks who was dating porter.

are you keeping this all straight? it is a bit what is the word here? chaotic. the president sees it differently. he says there are ten people, the ten best people in any field lining up to work for him. and he set the stage with that bold claim with this early morning tweet. the new fake news narrative is that there is chaos. wrong. people will always come and go. i still have some people that i want to change, always seeking perfection, there is no chaos only great energy. leaving aside to chill that mark about personnel changes might be causing tonight. listen what the president said this afternoon. >> the white house has tremendous energy, tremendous spirit. a great place to be working. many, many people want every

single job. i read maybe people don't want to work with donald trump. so many people want to come in. i can take any position in the white house and i will have a choice of the ten top people having to do with that position. everybody wants to be there and they love this white house because we have energy like rarely before. >> so the president sees energy, not chaos. maybe too much energy for gary cohn, hope hikszs and h.r. mcmaster. a chief of staff, strategy east, five communication directors. too much energy for them. >> it's tough. i like conflict. i like having two people with deferent points of view. and then i make a decision.

i like watching it. i like seeing it and it is the best way to go. the white house has a tremendous energy and we have tremendous talent. >> whether you consider the talent tremendous, good, bad or indifferent a significant chunk has been heading out the door. who is left to give the president honest and informed advice that any president needs? they are all leaving. with the possible exception of jared kushner. though, his security clearance is now lower than the white house calligrapher. and reporting that the president wants his chief of staff to help maneuver jared and ivanka out of the white house. as for the calligrapher, not to worry, there are nine others gunning for the job. big night ahead starting with

the cohn departure. jim acosta with that. >> reporter: everything is calm here. president pushing back on this notion that there is chaos inside the white house. doing that as the white house communication team was preparing the announcement that gary cohn is leaving as the top economic advisor. it doesn't get more surreal than that. i will tell you after talking to a number of sources this evening. one senior official that described cohn as a moderating influencer in the white house. fill up the room with gra vitas.

and then on the sunday talk show it was not gary cohn explaining this, it was peter navarro and in the words of senior trade official i spoke with was the perception was that navarro was gloating. as i saw in the white house east room earlier today, the writing was on the seat. a seat marker supposed to join the president. and didn't show up. sarah sanders took his place instead. when the president says there is no chaos inside the white house, you probably could bet all lot money that there is chaos. we have seen nothing but it. >> i just talked myself hoarse

describing what we had seen. >> reporter: i think it is going to be significant. we had one source tell erin burnett this evening this is going to cause problems inside the white house. he was advocating an economic viewpoint that was counter to the president's and a lot of people were pushing back on the notion that he would resign because in the words of one official how could he not know the president wanted to do this, he campaigned on this throughout the election cycle and at the same time, john, this is going to be a loss. you saw the president tweeting just in the last several minutes that he is working on a repla replacement and trying to put the public face forward that he is on top of this and one name floated so far is larry kudlow.

he is also a strong free trader who has been actively saying don't do this with respect to tear tariffs. a source said the president likes different points of view, bring on kudlow. it is not the opposite of chaos, it is total chaos all the time at the white house. >> cnn caitlin's collins and jason miller. caitlin, i want to start with you, you have got a doozy of a scoop involving the president, the chief of staff john kelly and anthony scaramucci. >> and to give you back story, scaramucci is the communication director at the white house for

a short period of time before fired by the chief of staff john kelly once he came into the west wing and we are learning that we have seen anthony scaramucci go on cable news channels and bashing john kelly. saying he needs to apologize how he handled the fallout from the porter scandal. and referring to him as general jack ass. the president has given scaramucci his blessing to continue trashing the chief of staff which is stunning in and of itself and the reason anthony scaramucci is doing this is because john kelly fired him and limited his access to the white house. while the president is tweeting and bemoaning reports of any kinds of chaos in the west wing, he is in part sewing that chaos

himself. and instead of being aware of these criticisms and discouraging anthony from going on and making these criticisms on national television, the president seems to be giving his blessing. >> every time anthony scaramucci gets mentioned, you get his wings. >> does it surprise you? or does this feel like something bigger? >> i am surprised by his staying power to the extent that this white house sometimes feel like a reality show. and scaramucci is one of the characters that got voted off early and circling in a boat trying to get back on and waving his hands at the shore saying pay attention to me. he dislikes the chief of staff because the chief of staff fired

him and he does not surprise me that he got a nudge by the president to go after him and because nobody stays in trump's good graces for very long and john kelly, the general as trump liked to call him for so long was someone that had unimpeachable credentials in the trump world and that is the person that trump is going to knock down a peg or too. and we know kelly is fighting with other people in the white house. the mooch was always on dr. phil counseling people on how to repair their marriages. so the white house story never seems to amaze me. >> jason miller actually cracked a smile. jason the president said today that everybody wants to work in the white house. well not apparently gary cohn,

hope hicks, and maybe not h.r. mcmaster. who is left to advise the president here? >> one thing i know about president trump, having worked for him, he does like to put folks together with different points of view and he likes to watch them hash it out. and he referenced that today. once the president has made his decision, everybody is expected to fall in line. approxima and what we have seen in the white house, a year after his inauguration is too often people have these battles and they don't fall in line behind the president. so whether it is an internal candidate like a peter navarro, someone who is loyal, or someone in the outside like larry

kudlow, is this person number one going to support his vision with economy and trade and number two, be a team player and fall in line. i urge the president to take the big picture here for whoever his replacement is for gary cohn. if i am the president i am sitting down whether it is peter, larry and saying give us the economic strategy and the implementation to take my ideas and tell us how to beat china in this economic competition, think big. let's use this opportunity. >> julie, a source told erin burnett tonight that cohn was the only good guy left. does this align with at least what you are hearing from certain camps? >> certainly there is a lot of

concern about his departure and we have been speculating whether he will stay or go for months. floated as a possible replacement for john kelly. only a few weeks ago that we were having that discussion every day. gary cohn as well as rob porter, were the sorts of people who could have a debate inside the oval office and put forth a point of view and have a policy process which is rare in this white house. not a lot of people who can have that give and take. and not a lot of people who can be listened to the way gary cohn was listened to. i think this is going to leave a big void and if it were on its own, it would be one thing. in the string of departures it

is going to leave this president isolated with not a lot of expertise to call on. if he wants to do what jason was just saying, he is going to be hard press to do that. gary cohn's deputy left back in december. not your typical white house where you have two or three people line up ready to take this spot. >> in turbulent times you need sober reasonable voices and these are the voices that are leaving. much more on the cohn breaking news and other breaking news including this, a new cooperating witness for mueller. this could be big because of the secret meetings he attended between the associates and the uae talking about ways jared kushner could be compromised.

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as a right-wing conservative and founding member of the freedom caucus, i never expected that the coworker would work closest and best with at the white house would be a globalist. gary cohn is one of the martest people i've ever worked with having the chance to collaborate with him will remain one of the highlights of my cheer in public service. globalist was that labeled place by gary cohn and steve bannon trying to separate. where does it go now? >> i was confused by that statement. it is like the freedom caucus and the right-winged conservatives are considered anti globalist. but with that aside, i think they work closely on tax reform and cohn will view his legacy as

passing the president's tax agenda. when people look back at his work in the white house, that will compete with one thing that is more important and that is you cannot miss the fact that he is resigning in the wake of a loss on tariffs. now tariffs is an important economic issue. this is the same person who was about to resign after the president's comments in the wake of charlottesville, wrote a resignation letter reportedly and decided not to go ahead with it. and the question is how could you be so worked up about a tariff issue that you resign and yet when the president said what he said about charlottesville, it pricked your conscious so much. >> people will look at this, and critics are this is hardly a profile to quit over a steel and

aluminum tariff. you wrote a resignation after the president wrote there are good people on both sides. >> at that point gary cohn was frustrated with the president's remarks. but it also went the other way. the president was frustrated with gary cohn's frustration with him. he would roll his eyes, and did not speak to him as much in the weeks prior to. that so we saw that relationship in a low back then and it really was boosted, gary cohn standing in the west wing was boosted after tax reform passed. gary cohn was instrumental as

that. cohn's name was floated as a replacement for kelly. and back here to the tariffs, it is once again that gary cohn advised the president do not implement these tariffs, tied it directly to the stock market saying it shows the success of his presidency and if he imposed these tariffs, it would affect that. and he didn't formally announce yet and it already started to affect. >> this is interesting. it came on the same day the president to his credit he told the prime minister of sweden to buzz off when it comes to trade. is this a seismic shift now. >> listen, donald trump as noted today and noted in the past has been talking about this for

25 years. the one thing he seems to feel in his core is an important principal and he used the word protect today. it is a protectionist move and he is owning that. so yes, i do think that we are seeing him embrace that even more fully than he had in the campaign when he was just a proposal and not an actual policy action. we are headed in that direction. but i think that gary cohn did what a lot of rvrepublicans did when they decided to come into the administration saying i don't agree with him on this, don't agree with him on a lot of things. and i maybe don't think he is that great of a guy, on principal, but put that aside because i think i can do something useful in the administration. and what we saw this week gary cohn saying i can't even do that. why is it worth it to say if this is the way it is going to

be. a dwindling group that is is there to advise. it becomes harder to attract good people because you don't have people willing to put aside. in the sinterest of making good policy, i am going to work in the white house. >> you get the sense that gary cohn and wall street betting they could talk him out of it. jason miller, to you, the name that has been floated in the last hour is larry kudlow. is that something you would support? >> i am a fan of larry kudlow. and a fan of peter navarro. two solid options. >> wildly different. crazily different. >> this is where the president is going to bring in a couple of

different folks and take a look at them. quite frankly more than those two. the president is going to expand it out and it might not be the chasm of say navarro and cohn. maybe he wants it more on one end of it. but one thing to keep in mind is the only person that anybody voted for in this white house is donald trump. yes the staffing story is important today. cohn will be out of the news tomorrow and we will be moving on to something else. there are a ton of all-stars in this administration, whether it is mnuchin. you look at mulvaney, general mattis. a lot of good people within the administration. and the president is going to put them together and see who fits the bill. >> thanks everyone.

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nader, who is he? what does he do? >> this man, george nader has been off the radar for some quite time and it wasn't he returned that fbi agents have been waiting for him. it was there that they questioned him for hours. took his cell phones and search warrants for a cell phones. served him with a subpoena and questioned about his knowledge about meetings in. saychelles. questions about this meeting. he is quite an interesting character kind of a behind the scenes guy who is known here in the political circles and was working on behalf of the united

arab emiratess as an influence to try to get policy pass. >> cara what can you tell about these meetings. >> the meats that shimon referenced, that was a meeting that was not known to the obama administration. you had the crowned prince of abu dhabi meeting with nader in the room. the other meeting that he attended was the one in the seyc seychelles. the emirates met with prince. nader was present in the seychelles. and it also we will see what nader is going to provide because he can set the scene for what was going on here. and he is working with mueller's

team, cooperating and he is providing information to the grand jury. >> shimon, do we know if nader has remained in contact with senior administration officials? >> there was report that he has maintained contact with jared kushner and steve bannon. there have been reports indicating that he was visiting the white house recently during the after the president, after the inauguration. so he has had some contact at least to some, according to some of these reports. >> all right. thanks so much. great reporting. with me now chief legal analyst jeffrey toobin. george nader, not russian. that is good, i guess. seems to be a different character with a deferent set of issues. what is the significance here? >> well, i don't know. and the story is suggestive but

we need to take a deep breath and recognize there is no proof of any crime took place or anyone committed a crime. so we need to recognize this is suggestive of mysterious activity, but it isn't proof of anything. >> when they intercept you at dulles airport and get your cell phone, it shows that they are interested in you. >> they are interested. and one basic point that is important to remember is it is unlawful for a foreign government to contribute to a political campaign. unlawful to solicit a contribution in kind or in cash during a political campaign. the possibility that someone affiliated with the united arab emiratess or the government of the emirates itself got involved

is raised here. >> who knows if there was something going on before that. but again, it does show something about the scope of the mueller investigation which every day that passes, just seems to be bigger and less close to finish than the day before. >> that is certainly true. you know there were people close to the president who were saying they are wrapping up by last thanksgiving. at the rate we are going, this thanksgiving, they may not be done by. the magnitude of what they accomplished. the enormous indictment. the new indictment of manafort. they are moving forward on a variety of fronts and they have not proven collusion by the government. anyone affiliated by the trump

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president trump stuck to his hard line even as he stood next to his counterpart, the sweden prime minister could retaliate. trying to strike a good-cop/bad-cop tone. >> when we are down by 30 billion, 60 billion, 100 billion, the trade war hurts them. and doesn't hurt us. and we are going to straighten it out. and we will do it in a loving way. it will be a loving, loving way. they will like us better and respect us much more. >> all of this as we have been reporting while the president's

chief economic advisor saying goodbye. i spoke just before the broadcast. >> congressman, president trump claims there is no chaos in the white house. yet tonight we are reporting that gary cohn is resigning. there is the rob porter mess, and the whole way the tariffs were announced catching the white house staff off guard. does this seem like no chaos to you? >> in my view, a lot of dysfunction in the white house. so yeah, there has been unusually high turn over as pointed out in many occasions. now with gary cohn leaving, in many respects a force in the white house. i think it is a loss for the white house. yes, i don't think chaos is too strong a word. >> gary cohn departure another

sign of dysfunction or chaos. >> yes. i think he has been a constructive force on a number of issue, and it is a big loss. >> is that a sign that the president is drifting one way or another if he can't keep someone who you clearly respect like gary cohn in the white house? >> well it appears on the trade battle, gary cohn and steve min nuchin lost. i felt the way these tariffs were rolled out was simply terrible and not done properly and took a lot of people by surprise and candidly, we all acknowledge here that the tariff issue is one as it relates to china, we need to deal with china on metals. this proposal went after our allies and i think we should be working together with our allies on trade and the way that was

rolled out was terrible and i don't think in the long-term interest in the country. i could go on how this represents crony capitalism of the worst type. >> the president said it could be done in a very loving way. first of all, what is a tender tariff. and do you agree that it can be done in a loving way or agree with the statement that the trade war won't be so bad. >> no one wins in trade wars. trade war precedes the hot war. and i am not saying that is what going to happen here. hershey is in my district. hershey wrapped in aluminum foil. no domestic source for that

material. it is going to have an impact. >> it was said yesterday that the house intelligence committee is going to wrap up its investigation on russia soon. democrats in the committee saying while the probe might be ending, it is far from complete. are you going to view it as credible given the in fighting in the committee? >> mike conaway stepped into a tough position. mike conaway is a good honorable man, although i never had a lot of confidence in theable of the house intelligence committee to produce a bipartisan report. i believe we are going to have to rely on the senate. i served as a chairman of the house ethics committee and i know what it is like to run sensitive bipartisan investigations. and at the end of the day the real report is the one that

comes from director mueller. >> a different level of importance. lastly, tonight is the first night in some ways a midterm elections. given what you have seen so far, do you respect republicans to hold onto the house in 2018? >> it is very much in play. i would say it is a coin flip. the map in pennsylvania was just thrown out. if the map imposed democrats will pick up seats in our states. the house is in play and the democrats certainly have an advantage in terms of energy and intensity going into the election. clearly with history as it is, we know that the party of the president is going to lose seats during the midterm and that is going to be the case this time. the question is how many. are we running into a hurricane force wind or a gentle brice. i suspect a very strong wind. so right now we are in a tough

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president trump once again saying that russia had, in his words, no impact on the 2016 presidential elections. he also said that other countries meddled in the election as well. as for north korea, the president said he believes the north korean leadership is, quote, sincere as he put it in reaching out to south korea on possible peace talks. and asked why he believes the north koreans are talking at all, he had a one-word answer -- me. as always, a daeal to unpack. i'm joined by michael hayden.

general hayden, do you believe the north koreans? do you think that kim jong-un would ever give up his nuclear weapons, and if yes, what do you think he'd have to get in return? >> well, that's a great question, john. frankly, no, i don't think he would give up his weapons. but it is a positive development today that he's willing to talk about what the south korean described as denuclearization. now, keep in mind, john, to the best of my knowledge, we haven't heard the north koreans say anything. all of this is based upon south korean reporting about what the north koreans said. and i understand totally that the north koreans may want their southern brothers to communicate a message they'd rather not have to say themselves. but i also suspect the south koreans may be putting as happy a face on this package as they possibly can. all that said, i'd rather be talking about talking than talking about the next military action we might have to take. so there is progress today.

there's something to modestly celebrate here. >> yeah. it's certainly being put through a south korean filter. nevertheless, there's a summit between north and south korea that's planned. and according to the south koreans, you know, the north koreans are willing to talk under conditions that have been favorable to the united states over the last few months. now, it was seven months ago that president trump threatened north korea with fire and fury the likes of which the world has never seen. he got a lot of criticism for it. he got a lot of criticism for the way he talks about north korea and this unconventional approach. but was his joke today a little bit true? does he deserve some of the credit for pushing north korea to this point? >> i think he does. i think he deserves it less for his language, which frankly i didn't think was all that useful and perhaps not all that impressive to the north koreans. but he does deserve credit for what he's been able to do with regard to the economic and diplomatic isolation of north korea. and i do think, john, that is one really powerful element that has pushed the north koreans

into these tentative steps. now, john, one note of caution here, though. according to the south koreans -- and, again, they want to make this as optimistic as possible. what we're talking about here is denuclearization in return for not threatening north korea and security guarantees. john, this will be our fourth run at the north koreans on negotiations with that framework. and so far we haven't been able to make it work. and you asked me a question earlier. let me answer it. i don't know that we're capable of giving north korea the kinds of security guarantees that would convince them that it's a good idea to go to zero in their nuclear program. >> and that is the condition they set. let me shift gears to russia if i can. the president was asked about russia interfering in the 2016 election today. this is how he responded. >> well, the russians had no impact on our votes whatsoever. but certainly there was meddling and probably there was meddling

from other countries and maybe other individuals. >> but are you worried about russia trying to meld in the midterm elections? >> no, because we'll counteract whatever they do. we'll counteract it very strongly. >> first, we don't know for sure whether the russians had any impact on the vote in 2016. no one has come out with a conclusive finding on that point. second, give what you heard from the intelligence chiefs, do you have confidence that everything really is being done to protect the u.s. elections? >> well, the answer to the second question, no. but let me quickly address the first question when the president said the russians had no impact on the vote. as you correctly point out, john, there is no evidentiary base for that statement. now, we're reluctant to say they had an impact because we can't measure it. but, you know, one of the russian meddling steps was to steal the e-mails and push them back at us through wikileaks. and if they had no impact, candidate trump referred to wikileaks 164 times in the last 30 days of the campaign.

so somebody thought they could have an impact on the election. now, with regard to our response, john, look, we're doing a lot of good things. we're trying to protect databases. we're trying to protect election machines. i get all of that. but this was a very sophisticated new type of attack against us with the russians not so much manipulating the vote. no evidence of that. but manipulating our minds by interfering in the american information space with fake news in their own effort to divide us. and i don't see a whole of government or a whole of society response to that being developed. and that's not developed as long as the president says they really didn't have any impact. >> general michael hayden, thanks so much for being with us. coming up, another day, another resignation fro what the president insists is not a chaotic white house. the latest on why the chief white house economic adviser is

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