tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN March 8, 2018 5:00pm-6:00pm PST
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right now. good evening. president trump on this big news in the nuclear standoff with north korea and the dictator he calls little rocket man. south korea's national security adviser delivered the news, and he laid out a series of concessions from kim as well as kim's invitation to sit down with president trump. here's the president's statement in full. >> today i have the privilege of briefing president trump on my visit to pyongyang, north korea. i'd like to thank president trump, the vice president and his wonderful national security team, including my close friend general mcmaster. i bring to president trump that his leadership and his national pressure policy, together with international solidarity brought us to this juncture. i expressed
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president moon jae-in's personal gratitude for trump's leadership. i told president trump that in our meeting, north korea's leader, kim jong un, said he is committed to denuclearization. kim pledged that north korea will refrain from any further nuclear or missile tests. he understands that the routine joint military exercises with the republican o korea and united states must continue and expressed his willingness to meet with president trump as soon as possible. president trump appreciated the greeting and said he would meet kim jong un by may, to achieve further denuclearization. the republic of korea, along with the united states, japan, and our many partners around the
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world remain fully and resolutely committed to the complete denuclearization of the korean peninsula. along with president trump, we are optimistic about continuing the diplomatic process to test the possibility of a peaceful resolution. the republic of korea, the united states, and our partners stand together in insisting that we not repeat the mistakes of the past and that the pressure will continue until north korea vets its words with concrete action. thank you. >> it was an extraordinary statement. there's a lot to cover tonight from two global capitals, starting with jim acosta. how did this come about? a lot of people were surprised. >> reporter: a lot of people were taken by surprise, anderson. i can tell you from talking to a senior administration official that this all unfolded really about
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an hour of the south korean envoy there that you were just showing there, young, he met with the national security adviser, h.r. mcmaster to essentially deliver this news that the north korean dictator, kim jong un, was extending this olive branch, and within an hour, the south korean envoy then went to meet with the president, mentioned this to the president, described this to the president, and then the president within that same hour poked his head into the briefing room and said hey, guys, have i got a story pour you. so thfor happened very quickly. one of the things we had a question about after the south korean envoy made that statement was whether or not this was indeed actually happening. and we can tell you that the white house is confirming this at this point. sarah sanders put out a statement. it says president trump greatly appreciates the nice words of the south korean
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delegation and president moon. he will accept the invitation at a time and place to be determined. in the meantime, all sanction and maximum pressure must remain. senior officials are briefing reporters on the details of all this, but i talked to a senior administration official before this briefing got started who said at this point, what we are focussed on is planning for this historic, extraordinary meeting. my sense is that this is not going to take place here in washington. it's not going to take place in north korea but may very well take place in south korea where some of these talks have been going on there at the border of north korea and south korea. but that obviously would be an extraordinary moment to have the president fly over to south korea for a meeting of this nature. obviously, it's unprecedented, and i would have to imagine that administration officials, while not saying publicly are privately very concerned whether the north koreans can behave themselves between now and this meeting so it can actually take place.
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>> it's also incredible when you consider the relationship between the two leaders over the past year have been nothing if not contentious. >> that's right. it was around seven months ago when the president described kim jong un as little rocket man. and kim jong un returned the favor with insults lobbed at the president. and then it was over the summer, it was an extraordinary moment when the president warned the north korean dictator that he would meet fire and fury like he's never seen before. we had the scary moments over the summer where people in guam were concerned about their safety at one point. about what might happen there. and it's remarkable that things have developed to the point where these two leaders might actually get together and meet. it it just goes to show you that this president, and we were hearing about this before chung young came out and spoke to the microphones, we were hearing from senior administration officials that they were
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basical basically cautioning the president against this. that was not going to be their recommendation. but trump being trump, it is not unusual to defy his advisers and go with a bold move like this. of course, anderson, the potential ramifications of all this, we can't overstate, obviously, this is not reality television. this is not "the apprentice". this is deadly serious, and we're going to have to see how things develop to see if it actually happens. >> thanks. jim acosta. it's midmorning in south korea. there are thousands of u.s. troops on the korean peninsula. our will ripley joins us with reaction from there. from a north korean standpoint whasstandpoint, what do we know about what's behind this offer. >> reporter: my sources say kim jong un has been studying trump
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and given that the sanctions have gotten increasingly crippling for his country, it's down to ten trucks going back and forth between countries. and president trump has said he is seriously considering military action, an attack on north korea if they finalize that nuclear missile that could reach the ma mainland u.s. kim jong un wants to stay in power decades after president trump is out of office. he knew he needed to do something bold, something dramatic and straight out of the trump playbook. that's exactly what he's after. he agreed to the summit in april. he decided to write this letter, to make this invitation, and he was begt t being on the fact th president trump would accept, and that's exactly what hand. >> the timeline with the president agreeing to meet before may, what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: well, i think the
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significance is that kim jong un and moon jae-in will be meeting at the peace village. president trump wanted to take the next step and have his meeting in may to try to again, to keep this momentum going, to build on this diplomatic path that north korea is intent on making right now because they've calculated it's their best strategy. >> we've got a lot ahead tonight. we want to bring more expertise. joining us is mark hertling. bill richardson, gloria borner and jen psaki. did any win s anyone see this come beining? >> no. >> the president actually tweeted that rex tillerson is wasting his time when he's talking about talking to north korea, and just today, as you were mentioning, tillerson said we are a long way from
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negotiations. we have to be clear-eyed and realistic. i think the first step, and i've said this before, is to have talks about talks. so what it seems is that the president has decided that he wants to meet with north korea and perhaps then have the talks afterwards. i don't see how you can negotiate that quickly before you have these two people get together if it's going to happen in may. i don't see it. >> do you give the president credit for, a, there's been a lot of bellicose rhetoric over the past year, is this maybe what brought them to the table? >> well, my view is that this is an extraordinary development. i'm flabbergasted, speechless in a positive way, because this potential summit could really lessen tensions in the korean peninsula. so this is a fogood development
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it seems that president trump and kim jong un have been taking vitamin diplomacy pills. and i think that's very good. the big lessen here is kim jong un has not delivered. he's not delivered on anything. he's talking good. he's a bomb thrower, and setting the agenda on the peninsula. but we should take advantage of this. i agree the president should accept this invitation, and i guess he has, but really have to be prepared. i don't think the north koreans are going to denuclearize, but i think just, for instance, south korea deserves a lot of credit, and they want some kind of lessening in south korea, because there are 25 million people in south korea that are vulnerable, our troops are in south korea and japan. so i tip my hat to both of them.
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although i'm very worried that we don't fall into a trap. >> the president just tweeted, kim jong un talked about denuclearization with the south korean representatives, not just a freeze, also, no missile testing by north korea during this period of time. great progress being made. the sanctions will remain until an agreement is reached. meeting being planned. they say north korea is committed to denuclearization. can you put it into context, how significant those agreements are, and there's obviously reason to be skeptical. >> this could be a positive development, anderson. i'm still pretty skeptical about it. i'm not yet breathless as many people are, because we've watched for 70 years the vam strategy of the kim regime. their strategy has been regime
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survival. and unification on their terms, not other people's term, and that consist of sub version, and coercion and the use of force. and their vastraty has been to split the u.s. and south korean alliance. the north korean newspaper demonstrated their reliance on nuclear weapons for north korean survival. it's very good. there could be possibilities there, but, again, i'd like to see what the talking points are going to be. what the ongoing strategy not only of the united states, but of north korea. they are certainly going to want to eliminate any kind of sanctions, because it's really hurting them. all indicators say that's what's really hurting them. should they also ask for no
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more, even though the message said they knew that combined operations will continue. will they ask eventually for that to stop? and then what are our requests going to be? other than denuclearization. are we going to ask for north korean forces to move back from the dmz? there's a whole lot more to this. and i think, again, a lot of people, even though they were caught by surprise, we should have had a little bit better strategy for all this. >> jen, can you explain how extraordinary the idea of an american president sitting down with a member of the dictatorship of north korea? it's never happened, and it's the complete reversal of what the goals of u.s. poll i have been. >> that's right. and look, vice president pence's statement about how wei would meet when w have concrete proof that they're taking steps is what our policy
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has been for some time. but the agreement that president clinton signed is now 24 years ago. no question it will be a tremendous photo op. what impressed me is that the pentagon wasn't tracking at that. secretary tillerson said earlier today that we were far from negotiations. and even the white house statement said we're looking forward to denuclearization, as if they're handing over keys and we're done. and the reality as general hertling said is that there are very complicated components that have to be agreed to. how will we know that they have denuclearized? are we getting access to their sites? we have no access right now. how will that be verified? how will we know what the international community do? what will congress be required to do with sanctions? these are significant questions. >> will there be verifiable
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inspections? >> he talked about kim jong un being little rocket man, and he said this is not the way you act with north korea. a lot of the president's supporters can say, you know what? he's doing something which is revolutionary, and maybe it works. >> it really may be. this is a historic moment if this meeting actually occurs. it is a historic moment. and you can look at it and say they're unprepared for it or look at it and say we have to to something, and maybe this is a different way to approach it. so i think you -- but, i think as ronald reagan once said, trust but verify. you have to make sure, and they all know this, that if somebody is promising to denuclearize, you have to figure out a way to make sure that that occurs, and the ground work, because this is happening so quickly, has the ground work been laid properly?
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or could he go there and set himself up for failure? >> governor richardson, everybody we talk to keeps talking about how important it is to have a framework for discussion, how important it is to set the ground work ahead of time. obviously, time is short if this meeting is going to take place in may, and there's obviously a lot happening in the region. how important is it that there's this one on one communication between the president of the united states and kim jong un? and if there is some sort of detente between them or a lessening of the, you know the hostility on the part of the north korean regime, does that filter down and make building a framework and negotiations that much easier? >> the first point i want to make is any kind of framework, any kind of agreement is going to take a long time with the north koreans. it's not going to happen on a presidential visit. now what i think i do adgree wih
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is the fact that the two presidents meet, a lot of preparation on our side needs to happen. we have to know what we want to come out of the meeting, but it's not going to be all denuclearization. if it's just a path to negotiations between our envoys, secretary of state, their secretary of state, that's good. and then we have to include south korea. and the six-party countries possibly. so that framework preparation is very important. now i don't mind if this is just a photo op that leads to serious negotiations. it's the fact that the two presidents need, despeights thedespite their histories of hating each other, a significant lessening of tensions in the peninsula. i think it's worth this potential, i hope it isn't a photo op, but it could be. >> in south korea and panmunjom, but let's think why north korea
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did this. i do believe sanctions are biting. i do brief eventually north korea wants -- they have an end game. i think we've underestimated kim jong un. everyone said he was a bomb thrower, unpredictable. i think he wants something in return. now if there is going to be a deal eventually, be it a brief framework that president clinton did, which i think was good until the north koreans evaded it by going ahead with enriched uranium, there heirs going 's g very high price. but first south korea, north korea meet, the two presidents meet, that will be in late april, i think. and then before may, the presidents meet, you're lessening tensions, a path to diplomacy. i don't believe you ever was going to have a policy that worked that was military, that was military outcome. you can't win. >> thank you very much. just
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ahead, an update from the pentagon, where they were just as surprised as anyone at tonight's announcement. and later, stormy daniels and why the story isn't about infidelity but the hush money and how little is known about it. keep it here on 360. ♪ hey, sir lose-a-lot! thou hast the patchy beard of a pre-pubescent squire! thy armor was forged by a feeble-fingered peasant woman... your mom! as long as hecklers love to heckle,
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months make. back in october, i heard the president tweeting about the north korean crisis. quote, i told rex tillerson, our wonderful secretary of state that he's wasting his time trying to negotiate with little rocket man. tonight's development took the pentagon by surprise. so you've been in touch with pentagon officials, were they surprised? >> well, at least some pentagon officials were surprised by the very nature of this announcement. some of them weren't even aware that an announcement was in bounds. when we initially spoke to them, and many officials were off-site, not in the building today, preparing for this. that was definitely of note. one of the thins from the pentagon's perspective is the announcement from the south koreans that kim jong un understands that joint military exercises between the u.s. and south korea would be ongoing,
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that's always been a big issue. in the past north korea and china have offered a freeze for freeze in exchange for stopping these joint military exercises, butt sou but the south saying that kim jong un understands three will continue. and they are scheduled for next month part of an exercise known as "full eagle." that's expected to proceed given that this meeting will happen by may, it's very interesting to see now north korea reacts once those exercises again. in the past, north korea has used these exercises as justification for missile or nuclear tests. it will be interesting to watch as these developments unfold. >> i want to get reaction from leon pan
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leon panetta. how surprised were you, both by this invitation from kim jong un and the fact that the president seems to have accepted it? >> well, there was no question that the south koreans and north koreans made a freight degreat progress with regards to the prospect of setting up negotiations, so that wasn't much of a surprise. i am obviously surprised that kim jong un issued an invitation to the president to meet with him, and probably more surprised that the president agreed to meet with him in may. >> this is really a complete reversal on what u.s. policy has been and democratic presidents. there's always been the desire to have group discussions from multiple countries with the north koreans, not necessarily allowing one on one meetings between the president of the united states and north korea e would kim jong un view this as a major victory to his legitimacy?
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>> i don't think there's any question that kim jong un has add diplomacy to his arsenal of weapons in trying to deal with the united states. and i think, at least from, from my accesense of how he's lookin this, that he has the attitude that he's trying to figure out donald trump and what makes him tick. i think for donald trump, who probably enjoys the attention here of this kind of meeting. his primary problem is sticking to talking points and really laying the kind of ground work that has to be laid for the kind of serious negotiations that are going to take place. so, while i think, look, i think this is a positive step.
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i think the world is breathing a sigh of relief as a result of having these negotiations, even having this kind of meeting. i think all of that is good news. but, in order for, for the united states not to repeat the mistakes of the past in terms of how we tedeal with north korea, think a lot of preparation has to be done. a lot of issues have to be looked at, and a lot of caution has it to be exercised here it in order to make sure that what is achieved here does not fail the way past efforts have failed. >> how important just in general, in foreign policy, particularly in a dangerous region like this, is the meeting of two leaders and the personal, the chemistry between them, the personal understanding that may or may not be developed. how important is that, you talk about a bottom-up framework that
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certainly makes sense, but how important is the top-down chemistry that then, you know, sort of filters into the seriousness of negotiations? >> well, there, look, there's no question that, look, these are human beings. this is a human process. i saw that happen with bill clinton in his meeting with leaders across the world. if they got along, if there was a certain chemistry there, then we made tremendous progress. if that chemistry is not there, it can lead in the other direction, and so, in order to make sure that this kind of meeting really is productive, it just is very important to establish what is the frame work for what we want to achieve in a set of negotiations that could perhaps take a long time? what does that framework look like? what do we want to achieve, and if that's in place, i think
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there's a better chance that a meeting between kim jong un and donald trump could actually be successful. >> secretary panetta, appreciate your time tonight, thank you. there's more breaking news tonight. practically every senior republican is against it, but president trump went ahead signing proclamations about tariffs on steel and aluminum. my video call's lagging. mom? surprise! surprise! hold up. hold up. we got a laggy video call here. yeah. you need verizon, the best network for streaming. here try this new samsung galaxy s9 on verizon unlimited. the camera's a real game changer. wow. okay, let's start this one again. first positions, everybody. crouch down. from the top! (avo) unlimited is only as good as the network it's on. switch and get up to $500 off the samsung galaxy s9.
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signed proclamations for tariffs on steel and aluminum. there will be some exemptions, but up until the last minute it wasn't clear that the announcement would be made. what exactly is the president proposing, and when is this supposed to happen? >> these are going to go into effect in 15 days, anderson. the president signed these very sweeping, very stiff tariffs on steel and aluminum. a 25% on steel and 10% on aluminum. the countries of canada and mexico will be exempt while nafta is being negotiated. he did say others could be exempt in the future. those two things are surprising, especially after the trade adviser, who was the chief architect of these was saying that a firm line in the sand had been drawn and no countries
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would be excluded. as the president signed these at the white house he made the case that he believed he was doing this as a campaign promise he was fulfilling. >> there were a lot of differing opinions inside the white house about the tariff announcement. what have you learned about what went on behind the scenes there? >> reporter: it's very fascinating. it could trigger a global trade war and kill jobs. the president treated it like a reality show, even when senior white house officials weren't exactly sure what the president would be signing today, whether it would be the formal signing of the tariffs or something symbolic, because the president was so desperate to get these signed. there was a lot of late-mignigh phone calls. a lot of people trying to persuade the president not to do this. not just gary cohn who quit but republican lawmakers on capitol hill and u.s. allies.
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instead, the president went for it, he signed these. just another episode at the trump white house. >> with me now, somebody who knows his way around the white house. former senior adviser to president obama. david axelrod. are you surprised that this announcement was dialed back? a more flexible version of what the president originally promised? >> you know, i think the president got what he wanted, was that picture with the steel and aluminum workers around him, the headline that says that he's implementing these sanctions. you know, i think caitlyn said something i have important, and it's been demonstrated several times today, he does view these things from the standpoint of someone who's producing a reality show. he got this picture. he changed the story. from, from the porn star and from guns, which he not off of after he got painted into a corner, and he's looking forward, saturday, to going to
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the pittsburgh area to campaign for a congress at candidate who supports him, who is in some trouble over there. in the steel belt, so this is a great bit of ammunition for him there. the details, i don't think, matter that much. he's just -- how it plays in that time. it doesn't matter to him. it matters to the world, american businesses and other countries. and in just the same way, to agree to a summit with the first-ever summit between a president of the united states and a dictator of north korea, within an hour of being presented with a proposal, without consulting with your national security team in a significant way, you know, i think he thinks about these things in terms of how it's going to play. >> right. >> and everything else is secondary. >> in another story, cnn is reporting that general kelly has warned president trump to be careful about talking to mueller, mueller witnesses about the investigation, which is, you know, the "new york times"
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reported last night that he's done on at least two occasions, one less serious than the other. it does seem that there are fewer and fewer people in the white house who can sort of keep the president from his own impulses. >> well, there's no question about it. you look at these tariffs, and obviously, his national economic adviser is leaving as a result of this. and it seemed to be almost a deck deck declaration of independence. there are real potential legal consequences for the president in disregarding that advice, but he seems to be wanting to chart his own course here. >> it's interesting in terms of stormy daniels, we learned that the president is upset with sarah sanders over how she answered a question about hear yesterday a -- her yesterday. you tweeted about it and saying how do you react when your boss
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gives you indirect rebukes. >> i think it's a very difficult thing. how often have we had this discussion where we said sarah sanders was being rebuked by the president it for being too forthcoming? not i have oftevery often. but it created a little trouble for him. there's no handbook about how to discuss the president's relationship with a porn star or payoffs or, you know, she was, i had some sympathy for her there. this is, i guess you won't want to say virgin territory, but difficult terrain for a white house press secretary to handle. when the president lets word out almost immediately that you have run afoul of him, how do you work in an environment like that? >> more on that story next as
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elsewhere. and if that were it, there would be no reason to go further. it's not just about marital relations and infidelity. it's about paying to hush it up in a deal just before the election, using shell companies and many more questions about the money itself, not the least of which is where did it actually come from. sarah sanders yesterday, without any answer about what the president knew about the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels, fasill taited by michael cohen. >> the president has denied the allegation against him, and, again, this case has already been won in arbitration. anything beyond that, i would refer you to outside counsel. >> what do you know about the payment at the time? >> i have addressed those as far as i can go. >> did he know about the payment? >> not that i'm aware of. and anything beyond what i've
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already given you, i would refer to you the president's outside counsel. >> has he talked to michael cohen about it? >> i'm sorry? >> has he talked to michael cohen about that. >> i'm not sure, i don't know. >> and this was said about the non-disclosure agreement. it's nefarious, awkward, unseemly, not something people feel that comfortable talking about, but frank laly, it's something we ought to talk about. watchdog groups agree, and they've filed cases. >> you know, if this fec does not investigate, and that's all we're asking for, does not open an investigation into this matter, this fec hopeless. >> michael cohen said he paid
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stormy daniels out of his own pocket. >> he didn't know that his own lawyer paid a porn star $130,000? boy, that's some lawyer. remember, michael cohen, the lawyer, says he paid it out of his own money. have you ever met a lawyer who reached into his pocket for $130,000 to help out a client? i don't think so. >> we should note that the backdrop to all of this today is international women's day. the other thing is named in the daniels non-disclosure atreatment. pri drew griffin has uncovered the true identity of one of the people named, angel ryan. i understand one of the people turned out to be another adult actress. >> stormy daniels said she told four people about this alleged affair with donald trump in
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2006. one is angel ryan, a porn actress herself. her stage name is jessica drake. now in october of 2016, jessica drake came forward in a news conference of her own, to describe an unwanted sexual advance by donald trump that she says took place at the very same golf tournament in 2006 where donald trump allegedly began his affair with porn actress stormy daniels. she says trump invited her and others to his hotel room than took place. >> in the penthouse suite i met donald again. when we entered the room, he grabbed each of us tightly in a hug and kissed each one of us without asking permission. he asked me to return to his suite and have dinner with him. he also invited me to a party. i declined. i received another call from either donald or a male calling on his behalf. offering me $10,000. >> same weekend, same event.
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ander s anderson, shortly after jessica made these statements, shortly after the election, a statement said mr. trump does not know this person and would have no interest in ever knowing her. he belittled her as a porn actress. that person was named in this non-disclosure. >> if it came to a legal fight, angel ryan could be a corroborating witness between stormy daniels and the president. >> angel ryan worked for the same company, was at the same golf tournament, and was propositioned in much the same way stormy daniels claimed. angel ryan and potentially these other three people who knew about it could be witnesses. >> coming up, a bizarre story, straight out of a cold war spy novel. a former russian spy and his
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welcome back. if you want a spy novel played out in realtime, there's within taking place in rural england. a former spy and his daughter was found poisoned by a nerve agent. they were discovered slumped on a park bench. a policeman went to help them was also affected. >> reporter: this is sergei at a shop in england days before he and his daughter were found unconscious on a shopping center bench. victims of a toxic nerve agent. this footage is believed to show them on the day of the attack hours before they were subjected to the poison.
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>> our role is to establish who is behind this. >> reporter: skripal is a former spy. he was arrested for acting as a double agent selling state secrets to the establish. he was convicted of treason in 2006 and sent to prison. the case was so high profile that russia's intelligence service made a film about the arrest and the betrayal he committed. in 2010 skripal was released as part of a high level spy swap for ten russians arrested in the u.s. he was granted asylum and lived a seemingly quiet life with his family. in recent years his wife and son passed away. his 33-year-old daughter is the only one left in his family. they are both in critical condition and suspicion now lies
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on the kremlin. >> i say to governments around the world, that no attempt to take innocent life on uk soil will go either unsanctioned or unpunished. >> reporter: this is not first time russia has been accused of using poison. in 2006 former russian pie alexander litvinenko was in bar and drank a cup of tea laced with a highly radioactive agent. they spllipped the poison into s tea. he slowly wasted away in a hospital bed and blamed vladmir putin before he died. during the cold car a bulgarian disdent defected eed to the uk was waiting for a bus and felt a sting in his leg.
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he felt a stranger fumbling with an umbrella. the tip shot out the dead lie poison ricin. four days later he was dead. the kremlin has denied no involvement in all attacks. >> fred, what else have the russians said in response to this poisoning? >> it's interesting because it seems as though they going on the offensive. they awe got some information from the fsb, the russian fie servi -- spy service. that saagent is retired and liv
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in the same town that skripal lives in and where he was poisoned. the brits are saying there will be a robust response if it turns out that were. >> thanks. we got much more ahead including the biggest news of the evening. south korea says president trump has agreed to meet with kim jong-un by may. the latest on that next. plap
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. it's been an hour of breaking news. the president is serving up a surprise to everyone tonight including the pentagon. on the table the meeting, perhaps in may, between president trump and kim jong-un. if and when it happens it will be the first meeting between the leaders of the country. where did it come from? who did it come from? was it against the law? later former trump aid goes before the house intelligence committ committee. president trump and kim agreeing to meet. cnn jim acosta starts us off.
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