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>> thanks for joining us. i'm christine romans. >> i'm dave briggs. have a wonderful weekend, set rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself is and for his regime. >> this is unprecedented, historic. >> i'm very concerned about the chances for success. i'm always a fan of diplomacy. >> we have been banging our heads against the wall for 25 years. let's do something different. >> this was a hail mary pass and president trump caught it. >> you don't have steel, you don't have a country. >> i actually think there is a better waugh to address unfair trade practices. >> the process is evolving, but at least they're getting to the right spot. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota.
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>> all right. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is your "new day". it is friday, march 9th, 6:00 here in new york. here is our starting line. potentially historic moment for the trump presidency. after months of trading insults and provocations, president trump accepting an invite isation from the north korea an leader to meet by may. it would be the first time a u.s. leader meets with the leader. following right on the heels of a controversial announcement on tariffs. defying opposition from republican leaders the president imposed stiff new tariffs on aluminum and steel imports. he did soften the blow exempting canada and mexico for now. >> and then there's the stormy daniels scandal. sources at cnn says there is
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growing anxiety in the white house over the fallout over these allegations of an affair between the president and an adult film star. we will speak about the president's lawyer about what is next. >> and more information on the former staff secretary rob porter, they are refusing to answer questions about porter's security clearance and when they know of the allegation of abuse from ex-wives. now the ranking democrat have calling for an investigation. more on our top story. what a development, will. >> reporter: alisyn, 12 hours ago if somebody would have told me president trump would accept an invitation from kim jong-un for a summit, i would have said they were crazy. covering north korea after all the missile launches and nuclear tests, who would have thought. here we are.
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this is apparently happening. kim jong-un never met with a head of state. he never left north korea as the leader. now he could have potentially something that his father and grandfather desperately want, a sitdown, face-to-face meeting with the president of the united states. >> he expressed willingness to meet president trump as soon as possible. >> reporter: president trump agreeing to meet with north korean leader kim jong-un in the next two months, setting the stage for an unprecedented encounter who just last year were threatening nuclear annihilation. >> they will be met with "fire and fury" like the world has never seen. >> rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime. >> reporter: north korea responding by calling president trump a dadard, old and is
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senile. b >> he is committed. he pledged north korea will refrain from any nuclear or missile tests. >> reporter: in addition to suspending weapons testing, kim jong-un accepts the joint military exercises between south korea and the united states. president trump expressing optimism about the possibility of denuclearization but expressing they will remain until an agreement is reached. south korea's president calling the meeting almost miraculous. but others expressing skepticism, noting north korea has made these types of promises repeatedly, accusing the u.s. of being in on previous deals. and u.s. ambassador to south korea for opposing a preempted military option.
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its failure could push the two countries to the brink of war. the surprise announcement coming after mr. trump unexpectedly popped into the white house briefing room to tease the news, catching staffers off guard. earlier in the day secretary of state rex tillerson sent on a trip to africa said this about the prospect of talks. >> we're a long ways from negotiations. i think we just need to be very realistic about it. >> reporter: the south korean delegation delivering north korea's request to the white house after meeting with kim jong-un in pyongyang earlier this week. kim expressed interest in something president trump during a more than four-hour dinner meeting where he treated officials to multiple bottles of local alcohol and cracked jokes about early morning missile launches and his image outside north korea. the details that we're learning here in seoul at the dinner
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truly extraordinary. this is the first time we got a look at his personality. he was laughing. he cracked jokes. he bottles of alcohol. just the fact that he was sitting with government officials for the first time ever from south korea just so confident. it clearly shows right now he feels he's in the driver's seat. one source told me that kim jong-un feels like the sheriff in town, calling the shots, getting exactly what he wants pushing this forward. in china and beijing, dodging questions overnight whether they would be willing to host any summit between trump and kim jong-un. they did host six is-party talks which fell apart about a decade ago. >> will, stay with us. this is an important conversation. no one knows what's going on on the ground better than you. joining us is david gregory and
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gordon chang. give us the plus minus of this. >> you have to follow-up on this opportunity. we cannot allow him to drive a wedge between seoul and washington. moon jae-in wants this prattly. trump really had very little choice in terms of what he was going to do. he didn't have to accept on the spot. by doing so, he made moon jae-in very, very happy. >> let's put up a graphic between the sticking points as we enter into potential negotiations. the secretary of state said we're nowhere near this happening at the same time the president saying it's about to happen. so full denuclearization. sanctions and maximum pressure remain. no missile testing. so there's really two of those on the side of what the u.s. wants. and one obviously relief that north korea wants. >> you know, the fact that the
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regime has promised to give up this nuclear program before and has cheated on that is an important piece of history that has to be counseled here. but i think what you point out, months ago we were talking about a preemptive strike on north korea. we were talking about diplomacy. it is in escapably a positive sign. donald trump, i think in a different way than other presidents, feels he uniquely can pull off the kind of deal that has eluded previous presidents. what has the north done to deserve meeting with the american president? and what happens if this fails? if you get to this level and you fail, there's no other room -- there's no other play here. we didn't go to china until henry kissinger did a lot of work to make sure it was successful. the reality show nature, it is a trite phrase over and over
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again. the president thinks who better than me? on the way home i will negotiate mid east peace. sit not that easy and potentially very dangerous. it feels like a gambit. gordon may comment on this. this seems a little bit more unpredictable. but again better than talk of preemptive strikes. >> your thoughts reflect victor shaw's. he talks about the high stakes in the "new york times". everyone should be he everywhere this dramatic act of diplomacy but these two unusual leaders who love flair and drama, may also take us closer to war. failed negotiations at the summit level leave all parties for no other recourse for diplomacy. in which case, as mr. trump has said, we will have run out of road on north korea.
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gordon, obviously the stakes are very high. normally there is a lot of gaming out of this that goes into it. it is is not a snap decision that takes your secretary of state by surprise. this one did. so it could go wrong. or it could be a huge breakthrough. >> it could be. the north korean leader's fund is running out of money. they will run out of changes by october, some say. we are not where we need to be. we need to be where kim jong-un realizes he needs to disarm. we are not there yet. with when regimers defect is when we should be talking to north korea. we will have to delay this so -- >> may is too soon? >> may is too soon. moon is jay in left us no
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choice. >> the prospect of speaking to the regime is important if it can tamp down tension. i would rather do as much as possible to maintain a status quo rather than intensifying this over time. which is what the obama administration did with regard to iran. a lot of people don't like that deal. it gives 14 years to degrade the program over that amount of time. rather than forcing the issues to come to a head where there are not great answers. if somebody figured out a good answer here, they would have is done t. >> sometimes you have principal is sis by analysis. paralysis by analysis. that is not happening in the donald trump administration. it brings a little tension, a little risk. you want to see what your reporting is on the ground about any evolution in thought on the
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north korean side with donald trump's own evolution about north korea. let's play sound that shows where he started and where he is now and let's match up with your reporting. >> there's a 10% or a 20% chance that i can talk him on out of those damn nukes because who the hell wants him to have nukes? >> i would absolutely be honored to do it. if it's under the -- again, under the right circumstances. >> rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and for husband regime. >> north korea best not make any more threats to the united states. they will be might with fire and fury like the world has never seen. >> are you willing to engage in talks with kim jong-un right now? >> sure.
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>> he was full o.g. saying north korea best not be messing with the u.s. but on the north korean side, have you seen a shift of being provocative of wanting to find a more mild status quo? >> well, remember, during the presidential campaign when donald trump said he would sit down and have a hamburger with kim jong-un, media called him a wise politician. then when insults were hurled, we mentioned everything we mentioned before, see night, dotard. but i have been talking with sources familiar with north korea's mind is set. kim jong-un has been studying intently donald trump, to get in his head, to figure out what the best strategy is here. the first year of the trump presidency is defined by more than 20 missiles launched into the sky, nuclear tests.
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and the north korean saw the response was anger, defiance, upping of sanctions, threats of military action. north korea didn't launch anything since november. still president trump was talking about moving to phase two, this military option if diplomacy doesn't work out. when kim john unlooked at all the factors of play and feeling the effects of these sanctions that are starting to bite, the number of trucks from china, north korea has drop to almost nothing. that will hurt the elite class, the 3 million people who are used to being able to get their smartphones and consumer items. those things might start to go away. the other 22 million people in the rural areas don't have that kind of voice. kim jong-un has a lot of people around him that will be letting them know how happy they are even though they said they were
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able to go back to the days of the famine. he has promised to grow his country's economy. his strategy is diplomacy is the way to go. he wants the stay in power long after president trump and moon jae-in is out of practice as well. >> look what kim jong-un has done to deserve this. >> or what he hasn't done. >> right. well, what he's done he launched muss ill test after missile test in the international community. it has gotten him an audience with the president of the united states. i think the most reassuring thing we can look at based on what i have heard, the president is legitimately afraid of this issue. and i hope to god he is. this is not off about ted cruz on the campaign trail. this is an issue where if you miscalculate, people die. and i don't think the president wants to be in that situation.
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>> it could be the same thought of those who counsel kim jong-un too. don't shoot your mouth off with this man at the wrong time. he may be equally as provocative as you are. >> the other thing about kim jong-un right now, and this is a good sign, he may think this is the best time for him to get a deal. that to us says that time is on our soeud, not on his side. but there are a lot of players here, chris. you have china, south korea. north korea seems to be on one side of this and the united states on another. we have to realize they're ganging up on them. but we are more powerful than them. we need political will. trump has it. god hopes he understands the severity of this. >> thank you very much for all the analysis and reporting. obviously we will be covering it throughout the morning. now, to this. the white house's stormy daniels problem is not going away. could her lawsuit lead to bigger legal problems for the president? we discuss all of that next.
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who pays it? the rest of us. what will it mean to the economy? we don't know. but that's the state of playwrigplay right now. we start with abby phillip live at the white house with more. >> reporter: well, good morning, chris. surrounded by steel and aluminum workers yesterday, president trump here at the white house announced those promised steel and aluminum tariffs that, despite the nervousness from wall street, the loss of his national economic adviser, he's framed about an issue about who we are as americans. take a listen to what he said at that ceremony yesterday. >> a strong steel and aluminum industry are vital to our national security. absolutely vital. steel is steel. you don't have steel, you don't have a country. the workers who poured their souls into building this great nation were betrayed. but that betrayal is now over. >> reporter: now, despite that
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strident language, the president did allow for carveouts in what he announced yesterday. mexico and canada are going to get the waivers they have been clamoring for since this whole thing was announced. two other allies, south korea and japan, hours after the president made that announcement, started to criticize the tariffs and will probably be among the nations who the white house says can probably apply for the waivers in the future. that being said, this tariff announcement is going forward at a time when president trump is about to go to pennsylvania to campaign in a crucial republican race where part of the state where steel factories and manufacturing is a big issue, he wants to be able to go there and say promises kept. all of this happening a lot a time when the white house is dealing with north korea, which you have just been discussing, and this stormy daniels. and now the president is more fully at the center of it. all of these are questions at
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the end of this week that continue to be brewing here at this white house, alisyn and chris. >> abby, such a great point. what a week it's been. let's bring back david gregory and cnn analyst john avlon. i was reminded of sam nunberg is in the rear-view mirror. stormy damns, the tariffs, north korea. i mean, this is just in the space of one week. the tariffs are really interesting. to see all the republicans who don't library this idea, who have pleaded with the president not to do it. and he stuck to his guns and he did it. i'll just read to you. this is all from the steel belt senators. while we recognize and appreciate the commitment to strengthening the economy of the u.s. imposing strong tariffs could risk broad tariffs on both aluminum and steel could risk straining international allies and partners. we ask that the administration
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consider alternative approaches to address these issues. nope. >> issues that may befall the administration whether it's north korea and other national security crises that we don't fully understand, and the economy. and the bottom line is this president says he wants to be a jobs president, who says the stock market reflects his golden touch to improve the economy, bring manufacturing back. larry kudlow is somebody the president listened to over at cnbc. he said this is a prosperity killer. it doesn't matter about orthodoxy. or his nostalgia for the '50s and the hula hoop and tariffs. it is the fact that if this hurts a synchronized economic growth reality around the world, then his presidency is going to offer and everybody is going to suffer. >> but there's been a vacuum created, right?
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because in this toxic who's worse battle, there is an opportunity for someone who says i'm just going to get something done. trump comes up with these easy, quick answers. this is a solution. and off they don't work out. people will learn this about the tax plan when it goes on. that's what tariffs are. he said i told you i'd help you. here i am. this will hurt people, they just won't know it for a while. >> the president's negotiating and political strategy is to take extreme positions and then sometimes move his way to the middle. what's odd about tariffs and his protectionist impulses is this odd coalition between the far left and the far right. the populism. that is what he is trying is stand on o. not conservative orthodoxy. particularly with this pennsylvania special election in mind.
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it is a district outside pittsburgh that trump won handedly. you have jeff of flake proposing a bill to nullify tariffs. that is a tough road to hoe. but this policy the president says, look, the markets won't adjust. washington needs to adjust. i'm going to look out for my base. but the if the repercussions undercut, if a trade war causes more pain for the people he is trying to help, which history says is likely, this is a cascading problem. >> look, he gets -- this is a longheld view that he's had. >> yeah. >> and i'm kind of over that. y he es, he did make this promise. but this is core competency. does his administration know what is going on in key matters?
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i don't know if you can make a historical argument that protectionism is good for our country. they can make the argument we are bringing manufacturing back. what has he done? are all of these plants opening back up in america because donald trump is president and they fear him? does he know what he's doing and is this a fraud? it's the only time republicans have awakened on capitol hill to say please don't do this. >> it is fascinating this is the issue they expound on. if you could go after the economy and business, then you have real troubles. >> by writing a letter? >> reading the letter isn't really the point. >> where is the spine? paul ryan came out with his press secretary talking about this. you know, where is the spine? >> calling the president out is more than they have done on deficits and debt. he basically rolled over on
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these subsequent bills. it's a comparative measure. the other -- >> qualified spine? >> a qualified spine. sort of exoskeleton perhaps. but it is also really interesting yesterday the trans pacific partnership was signed in south america. that's going forward. the president is going his own way. that's not american leadership. >> you made a reference to something earlier that is important in terms of how the president sees his leadership and politics. which is he sees the left and the right. then he sees an abandoned part of the electorate. he has been incredibly adept at speaking to that band of the electorate to say i'm thinking about you. i'm not going to do what the party wants. i'm going to reach out and see what i can do to help you. there is something incredibly effective about that.
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because it's a longheld view, even if it's a wrong one -- >> >> there is also something emotionally satisfying about it. we will have one of the steel workers on whose dad lost his job. we have been screwed over. this is what the president said, so we're going to get our steel back. that is emotionally satisfying. >> the idea of what do we make? whether in 19th century rush sharks the fear of we're losing it because we're not producing anything. this has been a strain in history. >> and 19th century russia ended well. if you go like workers in mahoning county. my mother is from young town, ohio. that town has been suffering. they may reward him in the short-term. >> is 19th century russia. the reckoning of feelings and
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over this letter about the changes the chief of staff john kelly has made in the security process without any mention of porter's history. now in a letter obtained exclusively by cnn, representative cummings saying if you decline to issue this subpoena yourself, i ask that you step aside and allow members of the committee to debate and vote on a motion to issue a subpoena at our next business meeting which is scheduled for march 15th. the state department urging spring breakers to avoid traveling to playa del carmen. there is a similar warning from the u.s. embassy in mexico. this comes awe week after an explosive device was found in a tourist ferry in the area. the interior department defending the nearly $139,000
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price tag for new doors for secretary ryan zinke's office suite. they had the work is necessary to replace old doors that are in disrepair. she said the project was recommended by facilities and security officials, not by zinke who was unaware of the expense. he is under scrutiny for questionable travel habits. so what's your take? >> i think $130,000 is too much for a door. >> it is not one door. it is three sets of double doors. >> that explains it. >> we see this consistently with government. and this was supposed to be about draining the swamp. it is easy to spend money when it is not yours. >> i noticed. >> they were supposed to come in and do a better job of looking after these things. the thing of zinke not knowing is unsatisfying. they are supposed to be looking over that and they're not.
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>> meanwhile, folks are still digging out from this week's nor'easter. the east coast is certainly not out of the woods yet. another winter storm could hit us next week, so says cnn meteorologist chad myers. what are you seeing, chad? >> i sure hope not. to different scenarios. so we will see. still snow today. even with temperatures around 40. not melting anything. all the way to the middle 40s. d.c., warmer than that. obviously spring has sprung across the deep south. it begins to snow across the great lakes today. it stops. then it rains with a separate storm. it turns in the ocean and turns in the right. if that happens, it is a nor'easter. i don't know yet. if it doesn't go straight out to
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sea, then we get nothing at all and have a beautiful monday and tuesday. i'll know more today. we will talk about it on monday one way or the other, guys. chris, backs to you. >> that's impressive. you think by later today you will have i much sense of where it will be. >> ye is s, we will have it all over twitter whether we think it goes left or straight. >> thank you, my man. good to see you in person. always surprised by how handsome you are face-to-face. >> come on, man. president trump accepting the offer to meet kim jong-un. is the meeting a good idea? should it be seen as absolute progress, or is it just upping the risks? we take that on, next. r the 'slp number spring clearance event' on the only bed that adjusts on both sides to your ideal comfort, your sleep number setting. does your bed do that? it's the last chance for clearance savings up to $600 on our most popular beds. ends soon. visit sleepnumber.com for a store near you.
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sitting president of the united states saying, sure, i'll go meet with the leader of north korea. and i'm going to do it by may. it took a lot of people by surprise, including those who counsel this president. is the meeting a good step, good positive potential, or a problem? some context. in a "new york times" op ed, nick christoph, who has visited north korea multiple times writes this, what north korean leaders have craved for many years is international respect and credibility. they want to be treated as equals by the americans so a scene of trump and kim standing side by side could constitute a triumph for pyongyang, a visit by a sitting american president to north korea would be a huge gift to kim, and it's puzzling that our great dealmaker should give up so much right off the bat. jim clapper.
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it will probably be in the dmz. you were very aggressive as part of the administration's efforts to try to do more with the north. so it makes me assume that you think the possibility of a meeting like this could have upside? >> i do. chris, i think this is a great opportunity here to profoundly change the seven decade long paradigm on the peninsula of abject animosity. now, that said, i get it about skepticism. we have been through this movie before. but it is a huge opportunity. i would counsel, for what it's worth, that the objectives for this meeting, be fairly modest. i think nicholas kristoph is right about how the north koreans crave recognition and to be seen as a co-equal with the president of the united states.
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but i think another dimension here that's important to remember is that kim jong-un has a domestic audience that he has to attend to as well. now, he has long exhorted the population and they have made these sacrifices in order to have a nuclear program, which for them is a question of survival. so if i were counseling the administration, i would urge first a listening -- i think, you know, just the meeting and greeting and gripping and grinning, that is important in and of itself. but i would recommend kind of a listening tour here where we get hopefully clear articulation of just what it is the north koreans would want that would give them a sense of security so they don't need to pursue nuclear weapons. i would comment that i think one of the factors that affected this decision on kim jong-un's
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part was that they have reached a level of confidence in their nuclear capabilities so when they do sit down for negotiations they are not -- they don't feel as though they are succophants. i think this is a great opportunity. i agree with doing it quickly, striking while the iron is hot. i would also commend the administration for quickly, as i've read, coordinating and communicating with prime minister abe. the japanese are hugely important in all of this and they need to feel as though they are part of this and wor in lock step with them. >> what's the risk? >> well, the down side i think, as david gregory mentioned earlier, and others. you know, if this doesn't work, we're on a runway. >> why? i hear the point, but why? often you get several bites of
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the apple with diplomacy. when you took your meeting or when madeline albright took that, it wasn't sitting presidents. it was people laying groundwork. this would be very different. >> he yeah. that's why i am suggesting a set amount of objectives for this first meeting. the bench in north korea is a little depleted. if we are going to take advantage of this, the administration needs to think long gain here. to get expression from the north koreans about what it is they seek in order to feel secure. now, that can mean over time, you know, phased withdrawals of not complete evacuation but phased withdrawals of u.s. military. by the way, i think there's other demands when it comes to
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besides denuclearization, like withdrawing some of the forces they have on the four corners right abut the dmz. so i think you're right. over time probably we're just going to go back to status quo. i would hope, though, that -- and this is my concern, that we not chess speak here. because if the administration worked as the administration claims, there is jeopardy in causing a violent implosion of a north korea which would have all kinds of negative implications. so that's i think the danger here is we revert to, okay, we're just going to put the screws even more to north korea. well, that could create another set of problems.
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>> right. and, look, let's be honest, if these were two different state actors, you would have a different analysis. when both are known to be volatile, you don't know what they're going to say. you don't know who will try to be the big man in that room. it injects a risk of nuclear proportions. appreciate the perspective. >> thank you, chris. >> alisyn? >> well, she's back. serena williams returning to the court for the first time in more than a year. the "bleacher report" will give us all the details next. we had long deployments in iraq. i'm really grateful that usaa was able to take care of my family while i was overseas serving. it was my very first car accident. we were hit from behind. i called usaa and the first thing they asked was 'are you ok?' they always thank you for your service,
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it's hard to get all the daily that's why i love fiber choice. it has the fiber found in many fruits and vegetables, all in a tasty chewable tablet. fiber choice: the smart choice. serena williams back on the court competitively for the first time since having a baby. andy scholes has this morning's "bleacher report". how did it go, andy? >> it's been pretty good. it's been is 14 months since we have seen her play in a professional match. she detailed how she almost died after giving birth to her daughter olympia. she had to have multiple other surgeries and spend six weeks in bed. after a long recovery, she was looking more like her old self
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yesterday. her new husband reddit cofounder on hand. 7-5, 6-3, beating her opponent. celtics and timberwolves last night. he slips off a rim and lands on the back of his head. he was down for a while, but was able to walk off the court on his own. brown went to the hospital to have a ct scan and test. later he tweeted appreciate everybody. i'm okay. got a headache, though. that was one scary fall. we have seen many basketball players get hurt. >> yeah. he looked out. it makes me think. there is a rule about showboating. i often feel like it is time to let that go. they are up too high for too long. let them swing from the rim.
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we like to watch it. new information about the parkland massacre. it reveals the chaos and confusion experienced by the first responders when they hit that scene. a live report next. ♪ when heartburn hits fight back fast with tums chewy bites. fast relief in every bite. crunchy outside. chewy inside. tum tum tum tum tums chewy bites. intrtechnology withnema. incredible color, sound and streaming. just as the creators intended.
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all right. we have just released documents and audio recordings that detail the chaos and confusion moments after a gunman opened fire inside marjory stoneman douglas high school in parkland, florida. we all should remember, i know it has faded from the headlines. but 17 people are gone. cnn's athena jones is live in tallahassee, florida, and has the latest. athena? >> reporter: good morning, chris. the new time details released show it took 11 minutes to enter the building because of the confusion of where shots were coming from.
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broward sure's office radio system was not able to connect with the coral springs police radio system, meaning they weren't able to communicate quickly what the shooter looked like and the weapon he was using. they are investigating law enforcement's response and the agencies involved. that investigation will go on even after the session ends here. meanwhile, governor rick scott is in the process of deciding signing a school safety bill. namely a three-day waiting period and a controversial guardian program would allow some teachers and other school staff to be armed. the union represents 140,000 teachers across the state of florida is urging the governor to use his line item veto power to veto the funding for that program. the governor has 15 days to take action on this bill. that 15-day clock began yesterday when the bill hit his
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desk. if he doesn't take action after the 15 days, the bill will automatically go into effect. he is set to meet with families of parkland victims is later today. they have all come out in support of this bill. the arraignment date has been set for march 14th, the one-month anniversary of the massacre. chris, alisyn. >> thank you for all the updates from parkland. it will be interesting to see what other states do and learn before it can happen. >> and if the federal government actually takes this question on in a real way. it hasn't happened yet. let's be honest, they're banking on it going away. >> we have senator richard blumenthal coming on to talk about that. thanks to our international viewers. cnn talk is next. for our u.s. viewers, "new day" continues right now. >> the united states has zero good military options against north korea. so any diplomacy and dialogue is good.
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