desk. if he doesn't take action after the 15 days, the bill will automatically go into effect. he is set to meet with families of parkland victims is later today. they have all come out in support of this bill. the arraignment date has been set for march 14th, the one-month anniversary of the massacre. chris, alisyn. >> thank you for all the updates from parkland. it will be interesting to see what other states do and learn before it can happen. >> and if the federal government actually takes this question on in a real way. it hasn't happened yet. let's be honest, they're banking on it going away. >> we have senator richard blumenthal coming on to talk about that. thanks to our international viewers. cnn talk is next. for our u.s. viewers, "new day" continues right now. >> the united states has zero good military options against north korea. so any diplomacy and dialogue is good.

>> will refrain from any nuclear or missile tests. >> he is face-to-face with the president of the united states. >> a meeting could be successful. >> this could be a positive development. i'm still pretty skeptical about it. >> i just don't believe anybody wins a trade war. >> that betrayal is now over. >> you have a lot of unintended consequences. >> what good is it to be president if you can't do the things you've been complaining about for 30 years. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning, everyone. welcome to your "new day". big newsday. after months of rhetoric and threats, president trump agreed to meet with north korean leader kim jong-un, setting up what could be the summit of the century. this would be the first time a sitting u.s. president meets with the leader of that isolated regime. >> while the south koreans are certainly applauding the diplomatic breakthroughs, seeing

how they helped broker it, the president's tariff proposal has pushback. the president following through on on imposing tariffs on steel and aluminum and these imports will have potential bad effects. and that's why there's so much strong opposition from republican leaders and calls that the president didn't meet the legal standard of showing this is a matter of national security. will lawmakers do anything about that? we'll see. the white house is also dealing with the stormy daniels scandal. there is growing concern inside the white house about fallout from it and how it is being handled. we will be speaking with ms. daniel's lawyer in a few minutes. we go to will ripley live in seoul, south korea. big place to be this morning. >> reporter: you're right,

chris. they are south korea wants engagement with the north. china dodged our questions overnight whether they would host this summit with kim jong-un and president trump. we know there is cautious optimism. one country we haven't heard from yet, north korea. it will be interesting to see what they say given that they have been telling their citizens for the duration of the trump administration that they should hate donald trump. now their leader is going to be sitting down with him potentially face to te-to-facef. >> he expressed his eagerness to meet president trump as soon as possible. >> reporter: president trump agreeing to meet with north korean leader kim jong-un within the next two months, is setting the stage of an unprecedented encounter.

encounter who just last year were threatening nuclear annihilation. >> they will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen. >> rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime. >> reporter: north korea responding by calling president trump a dotard, old and senile. >> he is committed. he pledged north korea will refrain from any nuclear or missile tests. >> reporter: in addition to suspending weapons testing, kim jong-un accepts the joint military exercises between south korea and the united states. president trump expressing optimism about the possibility of denuclearization but expressing they will remain until an agreement is reached. south korea's president calling the meeting almost miraculous. but others expressing skepticism, noting north korea has made these types of promises

repeatedly, accused by the u.s. of being in on previous deals. and u.s. ambassador to south korea for opposing a preempted military option. its failure could push the two countries to the brink of war. the surprise announcement coming after mr. trump unexpectedly popped into the white house briefing room to tease the news, catching white house and pentagon staffers off guard. earlier in the day secretary of state rex tillerson sent on a trip to africa said this about the prospect of talks. >> we're a long ways from negotiations. i think we just need to be very realistic about it. >> reporter: the south korean delegation delivering north korea's request to the white house after meeting with kim jong-un in pyongyang earlier this week. south korean officials say kim expressed interest in meeting with president trump

during more than a four-hour dinner meeting where he treated officials to multiple bottles of local alcohol and cracked jokes about early morning missile launches and his image outside north korea. the details that we're learning here in seoul at the dinner truly extraordinary. they painted the picture of him being relaxed, smiling, joking. and president moon can sleep in later because he won't be watching for early morning missiles. clearly kim jong-un, at least by all indications on the surface, appears calm. he is in the driver's seat. he wants to send a message that he is the sheriff in town. he is calling the shots. he's getting what he wants. by extending the surprise invitation to president trump, it was like throwing a hail mary and president trump could not resist catching that ball and running with it. we'll see where this all goes. >> fascinating development, will. thank you for being on the ground for us. here to make sense of what's

going on inside the white house is cnn political analyst maggie haberman. so, maggie, this wasn't supposed to be announced yesterday. this was not planned. >> no. >> this was spontaneous. >> it was spontaneous. >> what happened. >> the delegation from south korea came to brief u.s. officials. they were on white house grounds. they were not supposed to meet with the president until today. he heard they were around. they came to the oval office, briefed him on what had taken place. he said yes essentially on the spot. it is still required for the delegation to reach out to folks back in seoul and make sure this is okay and everyone is okay. and the president said i want you to announce it. the president had a little reveal with sticking his head into the briefing room. >> surprising reporters in the press briefing room thinking tariffs would be the only big announcement of the day. >> correct.

then it was announced at 7:00 p.m., very brief announcement in the west wing lobby. that was it. look, if this works, it is huge credit to the president. as we know, he said to abc said when he stuck his head in the briefing room, i hope you'll give me credit. we know that is what the president really wants here. if this is a substantive meeting, if it leads to serious change, if it leads to, as he claimed, denuclearization, he should get credit. but there are a ton of questions about what comes next, what he is even negotiating for. the diplomatic community is not just surprised but alarmed and suggests he might get played. >> i think we are seeing an example of what has become a culture. this could well be a positive thing. there is obviously a need for diplomatic channels.

what we are hearing about preemptive strike. it would be zero sum at best. however, how he does it gets in the way of his own success. we see that every day. the economy does have good metrics. but the way he doesn't tell the truth about what's going on or attributes to it, he causes his own problems. it is something that maybe someone should take note of inside that white house. >> i think they do take note of it. they are not able to sell that cycle. to your point, he creates chaos and reacts to the chaos. essentially everybody else has been rowing in a different direction than what the president did. there is, to your point, a legitimate argument that everything else tried has not worked. there is certainly a need to do something different. i think you have seen this president. people in the white house who will say to me pretty frequently

the sky is falling. and the sky has not fallen. and to be fair, the sky is going to fall on gary cohn. not a substantial market dip at the end of the day. we will see what happens with tariffs. you are hearing a lot of alarms on that. to your point, he has been ratcheting up the noise with north korea. it's not as if he has been taking the step back approach and it's just happening out there. he has been very engaged as a verbal combatant with this leader. >> before we get down the road of what could happen, what couldn't happen, this is a momentous occasion. he will be the first to sit down with the north korean leader. we heard james clapper say this is a great opportunity. what happens next? a great opportunity to shift the dynamic. it is trademark trump. >> i don't disagree with any of

that. that is absolutely true. as i said before, that is the credit he is seeking, at least in part for even doing the overture. and he can get it. to chris's point, there is a way to do it. it doesn't have to be sort of riding solo while the rest of your government, who has been working in a different direction, or at least in a lower key direction, is caught utterly by surprise. but it is an opportunity. the question becomes because he is so prone to kind of popping off or doing his own thing, what happens at this meeting? what does he get in exchange? what are the concessions. you are seeing is a difference in the language between what he tweeted and what supposedly has been agreed to as a possibility in this meeting and what north korea believes it is agreeing to. and i think you're going to see potentially more splits. the more splits you see the less productive the meeting. >> that's the concern. >> that's right. >> how you do it, you know, the method, the move matters in politics. >> that's right. >> yeah, year right, this could be a good opportunity depending on what you make of it, which is

planning, which is strategy, which is time, which is layers. >> right. >> and they don't have any of that. >> surprise work for the initial moment to be clear. sometimes when he does that, it really does work to his advantage. sometimes when any elected official does is that it works to their advantage. at least in get to go this point, it worked. but what follows will be vitally important. they have less margin for error now that he has shown his cards up front. >> we have some of the president's successes that end up being aoe claimsed by the scandal. economic sanctions, regardless of what happens at this meeting, they appear to be working. they're in decline. they have become open to this overture. isis caliphate, gone. israel. strong economy obviously at home. lowest corporate tax rate that everyone said they wanted. so he has done all of these things. and every week something like

that happens, there is a stormy daniels, a rob porter, john kelly, jared kushner. it is dizzying. >> the stormy daniels thing is a different on order of magnitude. rob porter was in terms of security clearances. jared kushner, that is also -- >> i'm just saying scandal sometimes competes with success. >> agreed. a lot of people took note on the timing given that the stormy daniels is back in the news frontally doesn't mean necessarily he is trying to change the subject, but it is hard to ignore the timeline. >> sometimes it's something unrelated that gets in the way. >> that's right. >> but sometimes it's something very related to it. >> that's right. >> he had he was going to help the middleclass. he lowered corporate tax rates. you're going to get criticized for that. we have never seen that wind of being a boost for the middleclass. on israel, yeah, they do have a strong relationship. but it is a team when netanyahu

is under fire. >> that's right. >> and one of the things they gave here, right or wrong, is a really controversial move, moving the embassy to jerusalem. >> it is complicated. agreed nothing is black and white. although sometimes i think that is his lens. >> it becomes a problem. >> his lens is always black and white. i think the trouble is he has trouble hearing the criticism and factoring that in and saying, well, i understand people will feel xyz. he wants it portrayed in one direction. again, that is why he tries to set the tone for this when he stuck his head in the briefing room and said i get credit. it's like dustin hoffman and wag the dog. >> if you want credit, you handle things one way. if you want progress, you handle them another. that is a fair criticism of how they handle things in there. they have never had a test like this. you get taxes wrong, people are

pissed off. >> absolutely. >> but this as existential criteria. >> it does. but i think it is is a fair one, and we said this earlier, they have tried everything else. nothing has worked. and the sanctions are working and brought them to the table. and i do think you have to see where this goes. but, again, the next step cannot be done on the fly. >> that's the point. >> that's basically the case. >> very quickly, where does this leave secretary of state rex tillerson? >> in africa. >> i was going to say. it left him where he has been much of this administration, which is not in the room where it happens. >> thank you very much. under the category of scandal and what winds up distracting the white house, pretty much the top of the list right now is stormy daniel. her lawyer says the president's

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call today. all right. stormy daniels, obviously that's her entertainment name. the adult film star suing president trump. she is set to tell her story with anderson cooper on "60 minutes" on sunday. daniels is trying to get out of a nondisclosure agreement she signed preventing her from discussing what she alleges was an affair with the president. what's the case? what's the remedy? joining us to discuss is that stormy daniels's lawyer. thank you very much for taking the opportunity. >> good morning. >> what's the case? you say michael cohen, the president's lawyer, tried to silence your client. how so and why is that wrong? >> it is not just michael cohen

but it's also donald trump. that's our position. in the waning days of the 2016 presidential election, mr. trump, through the use of mr. cohen, his personal attorney, attempted to silence ms. daniels by having her enter into a nondisclosure agreement whereby mr. trump would pay ms. daniels, through mr. cohen, $130,000 to buy her silence to prevent her from coming forward and talking about the relationship that she had with mr. trump. >> quick question. first one on the intrigue side, the facts side. do you know for a fact that it was trump who was going to pay the money and he was negotiating this deal through his attorney? as you know, that's not what michael cohen says. i know you weren't involved at that time. michael cohen said it was always him and then counsel for stormy daniels. he was doing it on behalf of mr. trump and mr. trump would not be

involved. is that your understand something. >> that's my understanding as to what mr. cohen has claimed. chris, it's laughable, absolutely laughable. and we're going to prove that mr. cohen is not telling the truth about this. >> how? >> how are we going to prove that? >> yes. >> we will be able to obtain discovery and documents that show i am highly confident at all times mr. trump knew exactly what was going on. i want to set the stage for a moment as to what happened here. according to mr. cohen, he was doing this all unknown. first of all, he had ethical obligations a as a licensed attorney in new york to keep his client informed. you're talking about the waning days of a u.s. election. he wants people to be he ran off with a signature line for his client, arranged this payment, made it in the 2016 presidential election, and all the time his

client was in the dark and mr. trump knew nothing about it. it is laughable. it's absurd and the mere suggestion is an insult to the american people. >> then we get into the law. the even if argument dilemma for you. even if you're right about all of that. it is what many think it will look like on its face. it doesn't make your case about her being coerced into this deal. cohen says, one, he didn't go to her. she came to him through counsel. and that the number was of their reckoning. and she made a deal. offer, acceptance, bargained for consideration. now she feels she left money on the table so she wants to get out on it. that is not the easiest way to get a declaratory judgment from a judge. >> in our judgment, there never was acceptance because donald trump never signed the agreement. >> i don't practice at your level. i've done research on you. i'm not going to get into what is the better lawyer.

you win. what i'm saying is we know you can't have a contract without an executed signature page. what is your proof that she didn't make this deal the right way? the law could look at her as having unclean hands. you took the money. you want a better deal now. that's not how contracts work. >> the law in california -- that's what is going to apply here, donald trump had to see these documents. that never happened. in fact, the agreement it specifies that if it's not signed, there's no deal. our position is very simple. it was not signed. there was no deal. we believe there is reason it wasn't signed, namely so donald trump could have deniability, the same deniability he's relying on right now. that is our position. we are highly confident we're going to be able to blow up this deal. my client wants the ability to speak openly and honestly to the

american people. she's going to tell her story. if donald trump has a counter to that story, let him come forward and tell his side of the story. we're going to let the american people decide who is telling the truth. it's just that simple. >> does it bother you that your client has gone back and forth on whether this happened now? >> well, yeah. i don't think it is ideal. >> they have facts, as we'd say? why deny it if it's her truth? >> i think when she is allowed to speak openly, the american people hear her explanation, they are going to judge for themselves as to whether she's credible or not. >> not a legal question but in terms of what we are dealing with here in our political culture, there is the so what issue to this. people did not vote for donald trump because they thought he was a moral mountain. right? when you look at the poll numbers, they say does he make bad personal choices? yeah, he does. does that matter to you? no. they voted for him. even evangelicals went for

donald trump when these types of what kind of character, however subjectively you want to define it. now they went for him more than anybody, including ronald reagan. so do why the american people need to hear from stormy daniels? >> because cover-ups matter. >> meaning what? what's the cover-up? >> the cover-up is that you have attorney cohen claiming that donald trump never knew anything about this. you have the white house claiming donald trump never knew anything about this. that is going to be shown to be patently false. >> why are you so confident? that is not easy to prove. you would have to get communications that shows that they were talking about this and that he did know at that time. >> we have substantial evidence and facts that were not included in the complaint. we're not going to lay all of our cards out on the table. >> that's a strategic decision. >> when that evidence and those

facts come to light, the american people are going to conclude that attorney cohen and the white house have not shot straight with them on this issue. >> what are you looking for? >> we want her to have her day to speak openly and honestly. we want the truth to be known, let the chips fall where they may? >> would she be willing to give back the $130,000. here's your money? >> if she's ultimately ordered to do that to speak openly and honestly, 100% absolutely. >> why is the bar to be ordered? if this is speaking the truth, give the money back and have clean hands. >> well, chris, i believe she's always have clean hands. it is the deal was never accepted by the other side. separate and apart from that, if attorney cohen and mr. trump want to come forward and admit that he knew about the deal and didn't sign it and they undo this and have the money and she can speak openly and honestly,

my phone is open. >> you think it gets resolved in the courts? >> we would like to have it resolved outside the courts. this could very easily resolve. let's agree there was no deal. let's let both sides tell their story. >> so far the white house has been -- they've been sketchy -- sarah huckabee sanders. good fact for you, saying arbitration question in the favor of donald trump. it makes him a party to this. not legally. he wasn't tpaert to the arbitration case, as you know. that was through michael cohen's holding company that he had. but if that's where this goes and it becomes donald trump versus your client, any concerns about whether that is a fight you want to take on? he is a very active opponent. >> he is active, aggressive, powerful. i haven't let people take my lunch money since i was 7, 8 years old. i'm not going to start now.

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korea is going to simply walk away from its nuclear program or abandon its nuclear warheads. so we need to reduce the risks of these talks that seem to validate with totalitarian regime. and there are steps we can take. >> such as? >> engaging our allies. and china. and intensifying, or at least sustaining, the economic sanctions that i indicated and others have as well maybe the economic sanctions have brought to the table. and also inspection. making sure that there is independent inspection. make sure and verify that north korea is really suspending its nuclear program while these talks are ongoing. >> do you give president trump credit for the economic sanctions that have allowed this to happen and brought kim jong-un to the table?

>> i good enough president trump for yielding to the intense pressure from congress and elsewhere, including myself, saying sanctions have to be applied to coal, text times, most importantly to banking and financial transactions. and china has to be enlisted in this process. only reluctantly has he imposed sanctions. and part of the problem he has hollowed out and there is no diplomatic team with the expertise and skill that needs to be brought into these negotiations. the best way to view it is as a meeting, not a negotiation. >> the news is rex tillerson was surprised by this. he was in africa. he didn't know the president would be doing this. no one knew he would be doing this, including the president because he popped in on the delegation. but he sees the opportunity. why do you say he is reluctant which, to be honest, he is the first u.s. president to come

this far with north korea. doesn't that say that he is doing something different? >> any president could have sat down with kim or his father and presidents before trump were tempted to do so is. president clinton almost did so. and decided to focus on the middle east instead. and the unpredictability and volatility of these two leaders is one of the risks that is entailed here. so the president needs to be encouraged to put together a diplomatic team that can really lay the groundwork, do the plans and preparation. and that diplomatic team is very important. >> and that's rex tillerson, nikki haley. and who are these people? >> well, they are the professionals, one of them who recently retired. that kind of lifelong professional who has devoted his

career to south korea knows the language. so is this kind of groundwork is very is, very important to make the negotiations succeed. it is more than a reality show. it has to be really a meeting that provides a plan and a path forward to detail negotiations. >> we just threw together this sort of ad hoc list of what the president's successes have been since he took office. it is by no means complete. the economic sanctions are working. isis caliphate is gone. strong relations with israel. saudi arabia, strong economy at home. the jobless numbers which will be out this morning and the stock market. lowest corporate tax rate ever. from where you sit, i don't hear democrats off giving the the president credit for this.

what gets in your way? >> there remain severe economic problems and challenges that we need to sur mount the problem of gun violence in our society remains. our health care system needs to be improved so people have access to real quality medical care and treatment. >> of course. but do you give him credit for those things i just outlined? >> i will give him partial credit for some of them. the economy, for example, is, with all due respect, the result of policies sustained by president obama, and he is enjoying a lot of credit for it. >> let me talk about gun violence. obviously your home state of connecticut did something after the newtown shooting. they took action when the federal government wouldn't. the state did. and gun violence came down. and now you're trying to take

some of those lessons learned and apply them nationally. and you are partnering with senator lindsey graham. so what is your plan? >> the plan basically is modeled on what states have done like connecticut to have red flag warnings use so that orders can be issued by federal judges to prevent people who are dangerous to themselves or others have having or buying guns. >> that would have worked, we think, in this parkland situation. because there were red flags. so in other words, when a family member, neighbor or somebody, what do they have to do? they call the police. then the police can temporarily take this person's weapon so they are not a danger to themselves or others? >> we tell people, when you see something, say something. but with this kind of measure they can actually do something. in fact, florida legislature passed it in the wake of this tragedy so that people could go to court if a relative or if law

enforcement has indications that there are going to be this kind of tragedy, they can petition a federal judge you to issue an order. there is due process. it's a bipartisan effort essentially, a breakthrough and a new approach that is grounded in solid experience. the experience that connecticut has shown when these orders result in people temporarily losing their firearm but at the same time saving lives. >> we will be very interested to see what happens at the national level as we watch what goes on in florida as well. thank you very much for being here. chris? >> all right. the investigation is widening. the nerve agent attack on a former russian spy in england is what we're talking about. who is behind that attack? a live report next.

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into it. they deployed the military to help in the investigation. 180 specialized personnel to, first of all, try to find out what kind of gas this was and how it was administered. the man that was hit, sergei skripol was a russian spy who was turned by the brits. he was captured by the russians and released as part of a prisoner swap in 2010. all of this interesting because of the way the russians are now playing. if they continue to deny they have anything to do with it, but they are now calling him a british spy. in a tweet that i'm quoting here they say he was actually a british spy working for mi 6, the intelligence service of the brits. at the same time of the russians doing this, russian media gloating about the whole thing. there is an anchor on russian tv saying people who are traitors

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can afford to dream gig. comcast, building america's largest gig-speed network. a steel worker's heartfelt story about his father led to an awkward moment for president trump at the tariff signing. cnn's jeanne moos has more. >> the president seemed relaxed at the tariff signing ceremony, joking with one steel worker. >> let's arm wrestle. >> reporter: scott sarge told the story of how his father lost his job due to imports. >> i never forgot that, looking into his eyes in my household what that does to a family. >> reporter: what it did to the president was inspire a premature pronouncement.

>> your father herman is looking down, he's very proud of you. >> he's still alive. >> then he's even more proud of you. >> reporter: you know who relates to that faux pas? former vice president joe biden, he did the same thing to the mother of the then prime minister of ireland. >> god rest her soul -- your mom is still alive, you dad passed. god bless her soul. >> reporter: president almost made one again. at least twice he started to leave bill signing ceremonies without signing the bills. >> mr. president, you need to sign it. >> reporter: the first time the president was in a hurry to get out to avoid reporters' questions. the vice president stopped him. then got the bill so the president could sign them elsewhere. on thursday president trump seemed eager to give the

steelworkers a tour. >> would you like to take a picture in the oval office? let's go and do that. >> he remembers to put his name on everything else, water, vodka, stakes. he has a problem with bills. he doesn't sign them or pay them. >> reporter: add some wife to the ceremony. >> your father herman is looking down. >> he's still alive. >> reporter: jeanne moos, cnn, new york. let's bring in that steel worker scott sarge and his father herman. gentlemen, great to see you. herman you're looking well. >> yeah, so far, the reports are definitely not true. >> news of your death was exaggerated and premature. what did you think when you heard the president said you were looking down from above? >> what the funny part anti it is, i knew it was going to be on sometime in the afternoon. so i went up to the y and i'm on

a treadmill with my earphones on and actually looking up. i'm on a treadmill. he kept talking and talking. i saw my son to the left. that's pretty cool. i was on the treadmill for a while and kept talking. i got off the treadmill and was on a machine. he findly stopped and i saw a couple steelworkers come over and talk briefly. then my son scott comeover and he was talking for thee or four minutes. i couldn't hear, couldn't get to a machine to plug my earphones in. then i see scott walking away and the president doing like this, i thought, hey, that's something. i'll have to find out what that's all about. i left the y, i didn't get out of the parking lot and i had another one of my sons call me and told me what happened. i just started laughing. i thought it was really funny. i wasn't looking down at him.

actually i was looking up at him at the tv screen at the y. >> while you were exercising. yet another irony. >> scott, tell us about that moment. was there a moment where you decided to correct the president or you considered not correcting him that your dad was still alive? scott? scott, can you hear me? >> i think scott's audio has died. the irony of all of this. scott, can you hear me? herman, you can, right? >> yes, ma'am. >> herman, i'll stick with you. what did scott say when he then called you after that moment? >> the funny part about it was, when i left the y, i was on my way to a sports bar to have a beer. that's why you exercise, so you can drink a beer. anyway,i got up there and scott called me and he told me what

happened. you have to understand something, i have five boys and a girl, a big family. we get together and we laugh and cut up on each other. this is what we did. i started laughing. >> scott, can you hear us now? so listen, herman, there is a serious side of this story of course, and was that scott -- i want to ask you about the serious side of the story. he was trying to tell the president ability how your life was hurt in the '80s when you were a steel worker by, i think the point was, imports. what do you think of the president's tariff plan now? >> i believe if it's going to help create steel worker jobs, i'm all for it. >> do you think it will create steelworker jobs? >> i really don't know. first of all, i think it's like 40 or 50 years too late. i think personally -- it's like

a global economy today. back in those days if you bought a mercedes, it came from germany. if you bought a toyota, it came from japan. now those cars are made in this country. but if we can create some jobs for steelworkers, because our infrastructure in this country is just falling apart. hopefully it's going to get rebuilt sometime. but back in those days, it was devastating. we were middle class america. then all of a sudden, they shut your plant down and it was tough. it was really hard. >> understood. i understand that personal story. scott, glad to have you. >> good morning to you. >> so what i was asking, what was that moment like when the president assumed that your dad was dead? >> it caught me off guard. you got to understand, we've got the steelworker mentality, we like humor and we laughed about it. you don't take something like that personal. maybe the way i told the story

that he thought he was dead. i was emphasizing the hard times he went through. >> understood. i get it. was there a moment where you considered not correcting the president? >> sometimes you've got to roll with the moment. it is what it is. i didn't take it personal. we learn to laugh about things in life. i think that's the way you've got to roll. >> scott, i want to ask the same question i asked your dad. do you think the president's tariff plan will bring back jobs like the one your dad lost? >> i tell you what. it's going to have an impact. like my dad said, things should have been done years ago. i think it's going to be a great impact. one thing i know, there's a major impact at granite city, southern illinois. that community was devastated when the steel industry got hit with china, dumped all this steel into this country. >> i guess my question, scott,

is this payback for the '80s and for when that happened, or do you really think this will rejuvenate the steel industry? we keep hearing how automation is the big threat to jobs? >> you can never get rid of people in the industry. you're going to have some automation, but when it comes to people using their mind, solving problems and these hands right here, you can't get rid of people. that will never happen completely. that's not true. i'm going to tell you, you're going to see a major impact in all the -- u.s. steel is going to fill it. they'll get some reprieve from the dumping and be able to sit back and take a different look to run their business and hopefully, with that being said, there will be some opportunity for united steelworkers in the process when we sit down at the table next time. >> scott and herman sauritch, great to see both