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rick scott. >> governor scott is trying to look like he's taking a step in the opposite direction of the nra. panic at a mental health facility. >> you're scared. anxious. >> investigators say a person armed with a rifle shot at deputies before taking three hostages. this is "new day weekend" with victor blackwell and christi paul. >> good morning, we're starting with three women who are dead after a hostage standoff at a veterans' home in yountville, california. >> there are three victims. the gunman who was found dead had been suffering from ptsd, had been treated at the home. here's dan simon. >> reporter: investigators are trying to figure out what caused a military veteran to barricade himself with three hostages, murder them, and then apparently take his own life.
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this happening in the town of yountville, california. this is the heart of napa valley. this area is home to the largest veterans' home in the united states. on the campus there's a nonprofit center called the pathway home. helps veterans deal with ptsd. we are told that the shooter in this case had been receiving treatment there until two weeks ago. this comes from senator bill dodd who represents this area. what caused the shooter to come back to the center friday morning around 10:00 a.m., exchange gunfire with the deputy, we do not know. we do know that once again in this country you have another situation where you have somebody who apparently has mental health issues get hold of a gun and commit a tragedy. in this case we are dealing with military veteran. back to you. this morning, new emails sparking new questions in the stormy daniels saga.
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>> the porn star's lawyer revealing that president trump's personal attorney, michael cohen, used his official trump organization e-mail and signature while arranging the $130,000 payment to keep daniels quiet about the alleged affair between herself and donald trump. that payment was made just a few days before the 2016 election. >> stormy's real name is stephanie clifford, and she's talking. she talked last night. in true to form, she coyly addressed the topic. >> sort of in a double-edged sword where a lot of people are interested in booking me for dancing and stuff like that. so i'm getting more dance bookings. i usually only dance once a month. now i'm dancing three or four times a month, so that's been great. because of that, it's overshadowed a lot of the adult films that i'm supposed to be promoting and a lot of the mainstream projects i was actively working on have indefinitely put on hold.
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i think with the new developments comes new interest. >> abby phillip is live in washington. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. this saga of stormy daniels has become a new question about whether michael cohen, president trump's personal lawyer at the time, was acting in his official capacity for the lawyer for the trump organization, acting in an official capacity of as a representative of president trump. the information provided by daniels' attorney shows that cone was using his trump organization e-mail address to communicate with stormy's previous counsel on the issue of the $130,000 payment, but he referenced the trump organization office. he talked about how the office was closed at the time, and he couldn't deal with issues until after time had passed because the office wasn't open. listen to stormy daniels' current attorney explaining what he thinks the significance of
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the developments on. >> if, in fact, the payment was being made personally by attorney cohen, he wouldn't need his office open in other to effectuate the payment. >> reporter: so michael cohen is responding to that saying that, you know, he is mike a normal person who sometimes uses his work e-mail to communicate about personal matters. he has a statement that he says, "the use of my company e-mail to communicate with the bank and ms. clifford's former counsel proves nothing despite the less-than-convincing documents. i used the e-mail address for virtually everything, as many people do." i think questions do remain about what exactly cohen was trying to do. and earlier this week here at the white house, we have been asking the white house what the president knew. did he know about the payment just 11 days before the election, and also did he know about the litigation that cohen has been pursuing on his behalf
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in the very last week. in this case, a judge has just been assigned to it. so it seems very much that this is moving forward in the legal sphere, and as a result, getting closer and closer to president trump. >> all right. abby phillip, appreciate it. thank you. joining us is errol lewis, cnn political commentator, an o anchor for "spectrum news." good morning. let's start with the obvious, broad question. if the transaction was independent of the trump organization, as michael cohen alleges, then why do office hours party? why is he using this e-mail address -- look, i've sent emails, probably shouldn't admit this while on cnn -- >> started out there. >> from the e-mail address that weren't exactly related to the story of the day. he alleges here that this is independent of those entities, this was personal. why does it matter that the office will be closed tomorrow? >> why does it matter? look, if you get into the nitty
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gritty, it becomes clear that what michael cohen did was done sloppily. it was certainly done in a rush. if you consider that it was happening, what, two weeks out from election day, whatever he was trying to do, he was trying to do it quickly. he may have been sloppy both in how he executed it and in his subsequent statements about how and why he did it. what he's trying to do obviously is insulate his client, the president of the united states, as well as the trump organization from any dealings in this sort of sticky, not-quite-lovely work that he chose to be involved in. in the other hand, the fingerprints are all over the place. clearly if he used his own money, if he actually made it a private transaction -- and it's hard to imagine why he would -- but assuming he did, the e-mail doesn't make sense to do that through your business organization especially if as an attorney michael cohen knows that he's dragged his client
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and, at a minimum the trump organization, into the middle of this mess. >> so with that said, let's listen to jeffrey toobin here. >> this whole idea that michael cohen has to go into his home ecoqu qui-- home equity line, h to take a home equity loan to keep daniels quiet about her relationship with donald trump, lawyers don't do that. they don't do that with their own money. it's not ethical, it's not proper to do that without talking to the client. it also doesn't make sense. >> okay. it's not ethical, it's not proper, he says. is there a consequence for the attorney in this case? >> it's funny, i talked to some attorneys here in the city, and they said, look, if you had to sanction or discipline every
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lawyer who moved forward without checking in with his client, there would be nobody left in new york. that's probably an overstatement. yes, he could face sanctions along those lines assuming that's what he did. if he literally took out a loan, extended all of his personal money, sort of co-mingled his personal business interests with that of his client and never mentioned it to the client, he could get into this trouble. that's not actually what's going on. what the president and his attorney have tried to do is make this whole thing go away. and they -- they came to it in such a flustered and hurried way that their fingerprints are all over the thing. i mean, clearly there was a relationship here or credibly, i should say, and the fact that his lawyer couldn't make this woman stop talking has been a real sort of thorn in the side. i think the question is why this. out of all the alleged liaisons this president has had in the years before he ran for office,
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why is this different from all the others? >> let's shift gears. the reporting overnight that the special counsel has a copy of a letter from 2013 that then-private citizen trump wrote to presidentmmu putin inviting to the miss universe competition, saying he was looking forward to seeing the beautiful women there. there have been some who question if this is the interentree into -- entree into getting closer to putin. wouldn't one expect if a businessman is taking this pageant to russia that he would personally invite the president to come to the pageant? and it's a beauty pageant. you'd expect to see beautiful women. what's your take on the significance of this letter? >> sure. look, if you're trying to promote something and it's going to be beamed out internationally, what's the biggest name you can get? if you're in russia, yeah, by far the biggest name you can get is vladimir putin's. he makes the attempt. what isn't so understandable, though, victor, is when you see the subsequent statements and
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line them up by donald trump, first he says i know putin very well, i'll be a great negotiator with him. then he says, well, i don't really know him. which is it? we've got to sort of -- get some kind of consistent line from the trump organization and trump white house and president trump himself about what has the relationship been. and you know, other than that, it's -- it's not of any particular consequence that he sent this note. but it's part of a pattern of being close to and trying to distance himself from some kind of personal relationship with vladimir putin. >> there's been a lot of strong economic news in the last 24 hours, 313,000 jobs added in february, unemployment is still at a 17-year low. wages grew 2.6%. you put all of those incomes into play, and you have to ask how much does all of this matter at the end of the day. >> well, that's right. look, politically speaking, the democrats, i don't know if they've fully reckoned with this. there's supposed to be talk about let's resist, we've got a
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blue wave coming, we're going to take back the house. the reality is a lot of people are seeing extra money in their paycheck. a lot of people are seeing job opportunities that didn't exist before. a lot of small businesses are getting orders that had dried up over the last few years. the economy is -- is roaring along. there may be consequences down the road, but you know, down the road is an eternity. the election is in november. >> all right, errol lewis, always good to have you. secretary of state rex tillerson is not feeling well. he's canceled all of his public events in kenya today. and according to the under secretary, he's under the weather because of long days working on major issues such as north korea. >> some of secretary tillerson's events will be rescheduled. he arrived yesterday as part of a five-nation tour of africa. next week he heads to chad and nigeria. so as we were talking, one of the big questions this morning is, is the meeting going to happen with north korean leader kim jong-un? president trump says it's being
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if completed a very good one for the world. time and place to be determined." this meeting if it happens would be the latest install investment a back and forth that's gone on for more than 25 years. the u.s. and north korea had virtually no diplomatic relationship before the 1990s. since then, there have been several aeras marked by talks ad deals and breakdowns. >> the first bush administration was marked by "limited engagement," trying unsuccessfully to get north korea to comply with a national nuclear agreement. then talks stalled when north korea started developing weapons-grade plutonium. they restarted when former president jimmy carter visited, paving the way to dismantle the nuclear reactors. >> the u.s. and north korea continued talks in 1996 and again in 2000 with a visit from madeline albright. then the george w. bush era begins. north korea is suspected of
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violating the 1994 deal by secretly enriching uranium. another deal follows in 2005 when the north agrees to abandon its nuclear program, then they conduct their first nuclear test the very next year. >> and then under president obama, north korea conducted a second nuclear test. former president clinton visits pyongyang to free two american journalists. after kim jong-un came into power in 2011, we've seen only two official negotiations. one was a 2011 deal from north korea to freeze its nuclear weapons program in exchange for food. >> that broke down when they tested a rocket the following year. the u.s. then announced a policy of strategic patience. you've heard about that. no more formal talks until the north commits to denuclearization. that continued until last year when the trump administration shifted toward a policy of increased pressure and informal engagement. >> the era of strategic patience with the north korean regime has
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failed. many years, and it's failed. and frankly, that patience is over. >> joining us, cnn international correspondent ivan watson there in seoul, south korea. and gordon chang, columnist for "the daily beast." ivan, let me start with you. sorry, there's the book by gordon. the author of "nuclear showdown: north korea takes on the world." can't forget that, gordon. got to get the book plug in there. ivan, this tweet from cnn contributor michael bender sums up what generously is confusion by the white house when he tweets, white house clarifies sarah huckabee sanders' statement that the president will not agree to the meeting without concrete steps and actions. not so fast, the invitation has been extended and accepted, and that stands, the white house tells the "wall street journal." the other players potentially here, especially there in seoul, do they know what the prerequisites if any are for
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talks that could be coming by may? >> that's where all of this has been wishy washy from the very beginning. are there preconditions for sitting down and talking, or are there not? we've heard very mixed messages from the trump administration in recent months about whether or not there are preconditions, and that kind of controversy loomed again with the spokesperson, sarah huckabee sanders' comments, and that white house official who said, no, the meeting is, in fact, set up. it may be that the trump administration is trying to give itself some wiggle room. it may be that their message just hasn't been streamlined yet. i mean, that's been a chronic issue for this administration in the past. we -- we are really speculating at this point. there are signs from the north korean side that the message hasn't been shrined just yet. for instance, north korean state media hasn't really talked about
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the potential meeting between the north korean and u.s. leaders yet. they haven't really published that yet. and in fact, in today's statements, there was an article slamming the u.s. for a recent round of sanctions against north korea, saying that this could lead to a possible war. that suggests that maybe north korea's state propaganda writers haven't quite caught up with the remarkable diplomacy of the last 48 hours. >> thank you. gordon, i want to bring you into this. based on what he was talking about, what ivan was reporting, how likely is it that north korea will sit down with the u.s. with preconditions? >> i think that there's going to be a meeting. there is confusion at the white house -- and also there is a difficulty here that people haven't focused in on. as ivan mentioned, we haven't heard from the north koreans, and all we have heard is from
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the south koreans. we heard the message tuesday and then on thursday from them. this particular time, we don't know if pyongyang's on board with this. the south korean president may be trying to bring the two parties together to create some momentum, and in order to do that, he may have been mischaracterizing the message he heard from kim jong-un. so there's a lot to be clarified here. but i think the momentum for the talks is strong, and it will occur despite all of these initial problems. >> ivan, back to you. i want to pick up on something that you pointed out that there in pyongyang they have not gotten at least a consistent narrative about the talks. is this a case potentially -- and let's at least for the sake of this question -- assume that the south koreans got it right, that kim extended the invitation to president trump, that they never expected he would accept the invitation, so now they have to hurry out and figure out what they believe about this and are going to do?
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>> i really don't know because the north koreans don't really pick up the phone and don't really give press services. in fact, they only do their government news bulletins on television, you know, for short periods every evening. and they don't even broadcast all day long. so it's very difficult to try to understand what's going on within north korea. the fact is is that there has been a remarkable surge of diplomacy since the 1st of january, since the north korean leader indicated he wanted to participate in the winter olympics that were held here recently in south korea. and the south korean government embraced that and ran with it and have pushed forward remarkably to set up talks and meetings with the north koreans. now they've done this before. they have experienced past rounds of inter-korean dialogue. the groups that do not, the players that have not met before
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at this level are north korea and the u.s. so it does raise some serious questions. how in such short time by may can you get a summit of the north korean and u.s. heads of state when they don't have previous practice at sitting down face to face at this level to sort out all of the protocol, the diplomacy, with two mercurial and predicta ag-- predictable leaders. there's incredible work to be done on the sides of pyongyang and washington, and you wonder whether or not the south koreans are uniquely positioned to guide them both toward this expected meeting. >> quickly, gordon, you know, the state department has a slim bench at the moment. is the u.s. prepared for negotiations like this? >> oh, of course it is because in the trump administration, you know, decisions were made at the top, and president trump is there. you know, i think the discussions conducted with the
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north koreans on back channel, he's gone, that doesn't help. there are plenty of people there. i'm sure the trump administration can execute what it intends to. >> gordon chang, ivan watson in seoul. thank you both. >> thanks, gentlemen. so the nra is suing florida after governor rick scott signed a gun-control bill raising the minimum age to buy a gun of any kind for 18 to 21. plus, british troops trained in chemical warfare are deploying to an english city to investigate a mysterious nerve agent attack. with its historical ance records...test ...you could learn you're from ireland... ...donegal, ireland... ...and your ancestor was a fisherman. with blue eyes. just like you. begin your journey at ancestry.com doespeninsula trail?he you won't find that on a map. i'll take you there. take this left. if you listen real hard you can hear the whales.
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law, governor scott praised the legislature and the students at marjorie stoneman douglas high school and the parents of the victims of the shooting in parkland for their advocacy. he also talked about the compromises that were necessary to get the legislation to his desk just three weeks after the horrible shooting. take a listen. >> there are things in this bill that i oppose, and i've been pretty open about that. i still think law enforcement officers should be the ones to protect our schools. i've heard all the arguments for teachers to be armed. while this bill was significantly changed on this topic, i am still not persuaded. i am glad, however, that the plan in this bill is not mandatory. >> and that provision to arm teachers is by far the most controversial provision in this bill. one the governor, as you heard there, has consistently opposed. he argues teachers should teach. he said that again on friday. and in fact, the florida education association which represents some 140,000 teachers and school staff across the state of florida had been urging the governor to use his
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line-item veto power to veto the $67 million in this bill that was set aside for the program. he chose not to do that. he said instead he wants to talk with the legislature to make sure that any of that $67 million that doesn't end up getting used for these programs can instead be redirected to increase law enforcement presence on school campuses. the families of parkland victims, several of whom spoke to the press after the bill signing, said that they see this as a good first step on the journey to making schools safer, and they urged states across the country to follow florida's lead to harden schools to increase security, to try to prevent another incidence of mass violence. back to you. >> thank you. 180 british troops trained in chemical warfare are deployed to investigate the chemical warfare attack that happened this week. >> a former russian spy and his daughter are in serious
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condition now. western intelligence officials consider russia to be a leading suspect, but this is still early in the investigation. >> cnn's phil black joins us live from salisbury now with some more details. good morning to you. what are you learning this morning? >> reporter: good morning. behind me, beneath the tent, that's the bench where the former russian spy, sergei skripal, and his daughter yulia collapsed. their bodies attacked by a nerve agent. the police have been investigating intensely the last week or so as they try to answer a key question, that is where and how and how that particular chemical weapon was deployed. we saw early activity at this location, restaurants and a pub in the center of the town. in recent days, police forensic activity has focused on sergei skripal's house and the local cemetery. that's where his wife and son are buried. at their particular graveyards, we've seen police set up
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forensic tents and approach wearing full safety gear as they seem to be trying to gather information on precisely how the chemical weapon was used where the two victims may have been exposed to it. you mention thursday are military personnel in this town. that's true. the authorities have been warning all week that there is no further risk to the wider public. it seems that these military personnel have been drafted from various services. the air force, the army, the marines. some of them do have chemical warfare expertise and in dealing with decontamination, as well. their jobs it seems is to deal with certain objects, cars, items that might have been contaminated in some way by the nerve agent that was deployed here. >> all right. phil black, great information. thank you very much. appreciate it. still to come, president trump heads to pennsylvania to stump for the gop candidate in tuesday's special congressional election. for years, people in the district have vote republican, but now the gop is worried.
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41 minutes past the hour. what are you doing on a saturday night? president trump is going to be at a rally in pennsylvania ahead of tuesday's special election and -- election in district 18. this is a district the president won by 20 points in 2016. voters have elected gop candidates there for years, but it could be up for grabs. republicans are concerned a loss would set a devastating precedent heading into midterms. >> democratic outside leader lamm is battling there to displaced the disgraced congressman tim murphy. the staunch anti-abortion advocate resigned after allegations of adultery and for urging his mistress to get an abortion.
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meanwhile, president trump's proposed tariffs on steel and aluminum imports, they received a report from sicone and lamm in pennsylvania's 18th. some say that lamm's more moderate stance is what's fueling his momentum in this special election. i asked pennsylvania's gop chair about just that. >> our trend, our polls and tracking is showing the republicans are waking up to this race, but we knew it would be close all along. the democrat is trying to pass himself off as a moderate. figuring that's the only way he can win in a conservative district. and we're getting the truth out about his record on guns, on taxes, on job creation, on abortion. we feel pretty confident that republican voters are going to come home this weekend. >> i want to read numbers from the monmouth poll that says democrats are far more engaged in this race than republicans. found that 48% of likely democratic voters compared to 26% of republicans say they're
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following the pennsylvania 18th special election closely. why, do they have a bad candidate? why do you think there is the disparity? >> no. we've seen that even before -- we were in that district polling even before we picked a candidate, believe it or not. we're seeing that intensity across the state. and so the key for us is to get voters out. we're doing that with 1,000 veefr volunteers on the street, hitting the doors and phones, to let them know what's at stake. >> lamm took in $3.3 million while the republican took in about $700,000. why is he falling behind by the huge -- this chasm if the fund-raising aspect. >> connor lamm has used act blue, money coming in from across the country. we'll see advertising, the republican, rick sicone, we'll outspend total what the democrats spend on the media. getting out the vote is not about money all the time.
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for us, it's about putting volunteers on the street. we'll have about 1,000 volunteers hitting the doors this weekend and on the phones. i put our "get out the vote" effort up against the democrats in this district. >> why do you think after a 20-point victory on election night and now the latest polls showing that he's at 51% favorable versus 47% unfavorable in the district that president trump will be able to help rick sicone win on tuesday? >> that's a great question. the base that i talked to -- i was at the gasoline republican party dinner last night, had over 500 people to see kellyanne conway. the base likes the president, likes what he's doing. we've seen this week great news, whether on jobs, taxes, the economy, north korea, and we're seeing that in our -- we have a 200 million data base that we use in the rnc, and congrats to our chairman for investing in that. the tracking is showing that where the generic ballot is coming back, people like the president's record on jobs, the economy, and taxes.
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so they -- the base likes the president. they support him, and they support what he's doing. we want to have him here. >> the president announced 25% on steel imports, 10% on aluminum imports. analysts believe the announcements came in time for the special election. and his rally on behalf of sicone this weekend. do you think that the tariffs announcement breaks one way or another considering that both candidates have expressed some support for tariffs on some level? >> big time in this district. i can tell you, i've toured steel plants in this district and around it. they've been hurting. this is big news for southwestern pennsylvania. this inured to sicone in that district. >> thank you very much for being with us. >> thanks, victor. guess what, almost time to fill out those brackets. andy scholes, give us good advice, will you, please? >> my advice is to now start doing your college basketball
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that's dramatic. college basketball sunday is almost here. teams around the country are still vying for a spot in the big dance. >> andy scholes is here with all of the highlights because we've got to pick our brackets. >> yes. >> tomorrow night, you got to start filling that bad boy out. i love there time of year. one of my favorite times, getting to the heat of march madness. today another exciting day of action. 14 teams are going to punch their tickets to the ncaa tournament later today. memphis hanging on to their hopes of making it to the big dance. they hit a running three at the
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buzzer to keep their hopes alive. awesome there. memphis wins 67-64. they move to play cincinnati today in the aac semifinals. last night we got round three of the best rivalry in college hoops. duke/north carolina squaring off in the acc tournament. guard allen in controversy, butt tripping garrison brooks in the second half. sticks his rear end out there to trip him. it was a flagrant one. he has a history of tripping players, but that was the first time he used his rear end to do it. the three here, no good. north carolina ones 74-69. providence down by as many as 17 before they came storming back against third-ranked xavier yesterday. diallo, the jumper, gives them the lead in overtime. the first lead in the same since it was 5-4. they did play stellar defense on the final possession of the
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game. xavier doesn't even get a shot off. providence the only team in college basketball this year with three wins over top-five teams. keep that in mind when you're fe filling out your bracket. finally, northern colorado's jordan davis, arguably dunk of the year in college basketball. look at this against montana. oh. man, he took that montana player on a poster. montana won the game. they will play later in the big sky championship with the trip to the ncaa tournament on the line. i know you have advice, victor, to everyone filling out brackets. >> okay. this is coming back to you. yeah. pick an upset or two. smaller school, let them get through a round or two, then let's be real still. -- realistic. >> put them in the sweet 16. >> last year i ended up, what, 30th, 32 here? >> better than me. >> this is your year, victor. >> and butt tripping? i didn't know where you were
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billion followers, witness the evolution of a global icon here. >> "pope: the most powerful man in history" premieres tomorrow at 10:00 p.m. here's a look. [ bell tolli ining ] >> reporter: since michelangelo helped build it, the most obvious change inside st. peter's is that pilgrims now take selfies. the vatican library may have gone digital, but only to preserve ancient wisdom. and in the pope's art factory, mosaics are still handmade. yet to millions, this ancient church seems radically different thanks to the pope in the newest mosaic. francis the reformer was an obscure jesuit from argentina just five years ago, but he made it very clear very fast that he would be one of the most liberal holy fathers in history. he was asked about homosexuality
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and said five words that shook the catholic church -- who am i to judge? he then embraced muslim refugees and said god redeems the atheist, allowing priests to marry, divorce catholics to take communion, all open for discussion under this global pope who also stands as the anti-trump. >> when he says those who build walls instead of bridges are not christians, does he know what he's doing? >> oh, he knows what he's doing. he's really a great political figure of our time. >> reporter: while his fans love that, the resistance here includes those who worry francis is a heretic or socialist or both. >> right now among conservatives, there is kind of an eglomration of people with different concerns who are joined in the fact that they think that the pope might be a danger, might be a problem. >> reporter: and what percentage of the church do you think they are? >> certainly not half. >> reporter: yeah. >> well below half. >> reporter: the passionate minority? >> a passionate minority.
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>> reporter: which he defended a chilean jesuit accused of molestation, the pope sent the vatican to investigate. >> to know the truth, to prosecute. he will never stop until he finishes with this sham. >> reporter: through it all he's obviously most happy like this -- blessing the hopeful and the desperate. a pastor who wishes the church was more like a field hospital. above all, here to treat the wounded. bill weir, cnn, vatican city. "pope: the most powerful man in history" sunday at 10:00 p.m. eastern here on cnn. i'm actually one of the most successful adult movie directors in the business. actually just renegotiated and got a new contract. >> this is about the payoff, not the

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