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and another indicator of how important this race is to republicans outside of republican groups have spent more than $10 million on saccone. this should be such an easy win for saccone that even it he manages to eke out a victory it could still be seen as a loss. >> i think you're right on that. it's interesting how this divergence of opinion or diversity of the pont president but they're all for saccone that you were talking to. we'll see how it comes out tomorrow. alex, thank you very much. we're following a lot of news. let's get after it. >> we're going to go very strong into age, age of purchase. president trump backtracking on his support to raise the minimum age to buy some firearms. >> i have asked to head up a task force. there is a sense of urgency. >> i remember i grabbed the knife, after that i don't remember. it's all kind of blood and stuff
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around. o.j. simpson giving a hypothetical confession into an explosive interview. >> he may try to describe it as a hypothetical but, of course, it becomes odd. five passengers killed in a helicopter crash in new york city. >> it was just going straight down like he was coming in for a landing but it was really fast. announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. welcome, everyone. welcome to your "new day." the white house officially putting out their thoughts on gun violence and school shootings. there's a notable omission in their plan. president trump's idea to raise the minimum age to buy certain guns is not included. the trump administration says they will help states pay to arm teachers and improve the nation's background check system. the plan also calls for a federal commission on school safety headed by education secretary betsy devos, though, hours after setting that up, the
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president mocked that idea. >> one way to look at it is pretty simple. sometimes you got to fight the nra. every proposal in this plan is backed by the nra. now the president has some other political concerns, namely that the republicans can hold on to a seat in the pennsylvania representative there, special election. the president won by 20 points, maybe even more than that. so he was there campaigning for republican rick saccone over the weekend but the rally became all about the president's peeves, attacking his perceived opponents and rallying his base. he even renewed calls to execute drug dealers. let's begin our coverage with kaitlin collins live at the white house. >> reporter: good morning. overnight the white house unveiling the president's school safety proposals away from the cameras and three weeks of after that shooting in florida and those they are pushing forward with one of the president's more contentious proposals which is to provide school employees with firearms training, there is no
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denying that the president is shifting his stance on one key issue after multiple conversations with the nra. president trump backing down from increasing the minimum age for purchasing certain firearms, an idea strongly opposed by the nra that the president repeatedly pushed for. >> it doesn't make since that i have to wait until 21 to get a handgun but i can get this weapon at 18. >> reporter: the shift coming after the president publicly shamed toomey and manchin for not including it in their bill. >> we didn't address it, mr. president. >> you're afraid of the nra. >> reporter: raising the age on gun purchases will be one of a range of issues studied by a new federal safety commission chaired by education secretary betsy devos. >> do you feel a sense of urgency? >> yes, because this sounds like talking. >> no. >> there is a sense of you are yensy, indeed.
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>> reporter: but on saturday president trump mocked the concept of these types of commissions to solve problems like the opioid epidemic. >> we can't just keep setting up blue ribbon committees, they talk, talk, talk, two hours later, then they write a report. >> reporter: the white house proposals includes providing rigorous firearms training for school personnel on a voluntary basis. >> this is one solution that can and should be considered but no one size fits all. every state and every community is going to address this issue in a different way. >> reporter: the administration also sports transitioning veterans and retired law enforcement to work in schools, adopting measures to allow law enforcement to remove firearms from threatening individuals, overhauling and reforming mental health programs and the cornyn-murphy bill criminal proved reporting to the federal background check system. the white house rolling out the
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bill one day after the rally. instead the event felt more like a campaign rally for the president where he attacked potential 2020 challengers. >> can you imagine covering bernie or pocahontas? how about that? i'd love oprah to win. i'd love to beat her. i know her weakness. >> reporter: and debuted this new campaign slogan. >> keep america great, exclamation point. keep america great! >> reporter: the president touting the steep tariffs he imposed last week on steel and aluminum imports and his potential summit with north korean dictator, kim jong-un. >> who knows what's going to happen? i may leave fast or i may sit down and make the greatest deal for the world and all of these countries. >> reporter: he surprised everyone by suggesting drug dealers should be executed and
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raising eyebrows with what some democrats say a racially charged attack on congresswoman maxin waters who has called for his impeachment. >> she's a low i.q. individual. you can't help it. she really is. >> reporter: the president is hoping to talk up another republican victory in pennsylvania tomorrow night during that closely watched special election. it's a district the president won handedly in 2016 but to give you a sense of how concerned the white house is about this race, the president is sending his son to campaign for rick saccone today. >> thank you very much. now to this story, president trump slamming a report in the "the new york times" that said he is in talks with a veteran d.c. attorney who happens to be former president bill clinton's lawyer that he used during his impeachment hearing. the president tweeted this yesterday. the failing "the new york times" purposely wrote a false story saying i am unhappy with my legal team on the russia case
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and i'm going to add another attorney to help out. wrong! i'm very happy with ty cobb and jay sec ulou. the only collusion was from the democrat. cnn political analyst and "the new york times" white house correspondent maggie habberman joins us now. hi, maggie. >> reporter: hi. >> what's your response to the president's criticism? >> i think the basis concept is problematic that he believes people need quote/unquote, access to report on the president of the united states. we report on him regardless but he has no idea who our sources are or how many people around him are talking to us. >> he says you have no access. you interviewed him 12 times at at least. >> we saw during the campaign
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that he has this habit of pointing to a table like this and saying this is a sofa and this is no exception. we do not need his permission to cover him. this is something he's continued to think the people need. this is his idea of journalism that was cultivated over many decades dealing with new york city tabloids. that's not how the white house works or government. this is a weird thing for him to have this reaction to, among other things, he's saying that the story said things he didn't say. we did say he's meeting with a lawyer who specializes in that i word impeachment and that is something -- >> you know that for a fact? >> we know that for a fact. oval office was in the -- they were in the oval office and that's what they were talking about. somebody who can serve as an intermediary for him with the department of justice. he gets himself in a thorny
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position with this repeatedly with the deputy attorney general. he has all kinds of questions about the fisa process. ty cobb has not played that role. the person who has been the point person dealing with the mueller investigation and don mcgahn can't because he is a witness in that investigation that despite what the president claims has not been privy -- >> the president is not his client. >> correct. >> the white house is and it's meaningful distinction here and somebody didn't serve him well because the idea of letting it come out that you're trying to negotiate that the president will sit down with investigators if you negotiate a hardened date to the investigation had to do a lot of damage to the relationship. that would be a death sentence for mueller's guys if they cut a deal like that. >> it's never going to happen. >> so somebody did him a disservice and it would suggest that they're going to have to add somebody who can make it better. >> here's the problem with that, right, because we have been saying that for some period of time. there are various people who have done him a disservice but
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none more so than himself. the main way he does that is he refuses to fall the clinton model, kaz owe wits wanted to follow the clinton model, you set up, here's a separate team legal that is going to deal with the investigation and then press around the investigation and here's our government team and they are dealing with all manner of the government, the presidency, the white house. keep them separate. this president will not allow that. he doesn't want that so you end up in this situation where everybody is a cross purposes and tiptoeing around and he just weighs in with a tweet that doesn't help anybody. >> about your -- back to your reporting on emmitt flood who's this veteran attorney who dealt with bill clinton's impeachment. it was pretty innocuous. it really arouses his ire. it got him at cross purposes
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with -- >> i think his own lawyers did not know that he was doing this and i think he's worried about inflaming them or leak something so he puts out this attack the messenger thing which we've seen him do over and over. >> it suggests respect for potential consequences. they don't want to follow the clinton model -- >> right. >> don't follow the clinto plan but short of that the idea that he'd even be considering it, that he's even thinking about how to prepare for that is -- >> correct but it's reality. it also raises the possibility and kron but it raises the possibility that flood turned him down and he's spinning it forward as, this wasn't even real. we've seen him do all of this. none of this is particularly surprise. it's not productive in his amazing fixation with my unusual shah and coverage remains astonishing.
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>> flood could have come out and said, i was there but -- he could have cleared it up right away. >> it was not offbase. you didn't see anybody from the white house say a thing about it for 24 hours until the president decided to spend sunday morning doing this. >> now on to policy. the white house has put out their thoughts on stopping school shootings and gun safety and as we pointed out this morning, it could read like a checklist, an nra approved checklist that doesn't mean -- such as, you know, transitioning former veterans and police officers into the schools to help out, that these things won't effective but there's nothing that pushes the boundaries of what the nra would have been comfortable with. >> there's nothing that matches the thunderous rhetoric that we heard from the president that the president thought was a really good event. this just suggests no follow through and it suggests that the follow-up meeting that the nra had with them, they were the last voice on this in his ear,
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had some effect. what is missing from this plan is the study -- anything related to upping the age requirement in terms of the type of weapons that were used in the parkland, florida, shooting. what was said on this call with reporters last night was that this commission that is going to be chaired by betsy devos is going to study this and this is as you played earlier in sound exactly the kind of thing that the president denounced the evening before his whole brand, is action on doing something. people are not going to not notice that the age range doesn't change and that the age minimum doesn't change and that is something the nra was against. >> let's just remind people where the president was on this idea over time. take a listen. >> in addition to everything else, in addition to what we're going to do about background checks, we'll go very strong into age, age of purchase. you can't buy a handgun at 18, 19 or 20. you have to wait till your 21
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but you can buy the gun, the weapon used in this horrible shooting at 18. you are going to decide. the people in this room pretty much are going to decide, but i would get very serious thought to it. >> perhaps, we'll do something having, you know, on age, because, it doesn't seem to make sense that you have to wait till you're 21 years old to get a pistol but to get a gun like this that this maniac used you can get it at 18. >> why wasn't it in the proposal? >> because it was controversial and because his advisers told him it was a political problem. i don't think we've heard the last of it especially knowing him. we'll see a tweet today as he's sitting and watching all of his headlines and coverage. he'll say i never backed off of it. at the end of the day we've had years of this now with him of i'm going to take various sides of the same issue and you can all guess and hear what you want to hear. there will either be a raise in the age minimum or there won't and if there isn't it is going
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to be met with a lot of frustration from people -- look, background checks are more politically popular, i think, that is certainly true. >> they don't cover all sales. >> they do not and he's trying to cornyn-murphy is not the same at manchin-toomey. they see it at tethered to president obama and that's reality. it is hard for him to escape the criticism that he is catering to the nra with this proposal. >> maggie, stick around. we have many questions for you. betsy due voss has just been grilled in a series of knew interviews. her answers have proven puzzling. we'll show you next. there are two types of people in the world. those who fear the future... and those who embrace it.
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an assault weapon, a student over 18? >> not in schools, they can't. >> okay. so you still want the schools to be gun-free zones except for the teachers? >> i think schools have to be protected like every other large gathering place. >> all right. let's bring back maggie habberman. devos has got problems in terms of acumen that she's controlling. guns are just dumped on her plate and there's going to be struggle because there's not a lot of common sense flow to the restriction. >> right. >> but this is what happens. someone's going to have to be in charge of how to put guns in the schools and teachers hands and it's going to come down on her. >> what they said last night on this call with reporters is the justice department is going to be the agency that's going to be working with schools with local officials. she is chairing this commission. i can't get a sense of whether there's a direction they want to take. it sounds like a punt. they formed this commission. justice department is going to
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work with local officials on this rigorous firearm training was their description of it. does not sound like a new funding flow, doesn't make clear what we're talking about in terms of what type of firearms and so forth other than it's not appropriate to have an assault style rifle in schools or assault weapons in schools. i think that this is not going to satisfy a lot of people who thought that there was actually going to be a different type of conversation after this particular shooting, to your point, some of this is not her fault. this is essentially this football that she was told to go carry, but in general there is a sense of sort of a lack of preparedness, not just by her but by every official who has had to doend with this issue because they don't have answers. they're laying out this commission as a form of delaying questions. >> people are obviously worried about arming teachers. some people really support it and think it would be helpful. some people are very nervous. savannah guthrie was asking specific questions about how many and where will the gun be
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on the person? will it be locked in a door? it sounds as though the education secretary hasn't necessarily thought these things through. here's another portion. >> what percentage of teachers at schools would need to be armed in your mind to be effective? >> i don't have a percentage. >> would there be an armed teacher in every classroom? >> i don't think that would be appropriate and i don't think anybody would agree that would be. >> what about in every grade? >> i don't think that would be either. >> should the teachers wear their weapons outside so everybody can see it including little kids presumably or should they conceal them so that there's that element of surprise? >> look, this is an issue that is best decided by local communities and by states. it is not going to be appropriate in every location -- >> and the problem is that this follows on the heels of last night's 60 minutes where she was asked about her home state michigan and we actually have
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that as well. let's play this for a moment. >> public schools in michigan gotten better? >> i don't know. overall, i can't say overall that they have all gotten better. >> the whole state is not doing well. >> there are certainly lots of pockets where the students are doing well -- >> have you seen the really bad schools? maybe tried to figure out what they're doing? >> i have not -- i've not intentionally visited schools that are underperforming. >> maybe you should? >> maybe i should, yes. >> so this left the impression that perhaps she's not equipped to answer some of these basic questions. >> this is different than the guns issue. the guns issue just seems like something's that's more holistic in terms of interagency or involving several agencies and the white house and they all don't seem to know what they want to do. that's her area. she is the education secretary. she's billed herself as an expert in terms of specific educational plans, in terms of school choice and so forth. being unable to answer questions
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about bad schools in your home state for any parent of a school aged child but especially kids in the public school system, especially kids in the public system in michigan, that's a disturbing answer and it's one of the things we have seen over and over with this president's cabinet picks. when you do not pick subject matter experts, they are not necessarily going to know what they are talking about but you would expect those answers maybe two months into the administration p. we're 14 months in now. >> just from a perimeter on political playbook. you go to the places that are negatively impacted within your purview just to show that you care. it actually gives you cover to not have to do as much about it if you don't want to. that's what you usually see. they haven't gotten that right. the gun stuff matters because savannah was doing something that was very plain. she was asking basic common sense questions to expose that they don't know what they're going to do except, and the truth matters on this, make the nra and its constituency happy.
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they like the idea of more guns, good guy with a gun beats bad guy with a gun. why wouldn't you want it with every teacher? why wouldn't it be in every classroom? if that's your logical continuum, more guns equals more safe, why not? it shows that they aren't even comfortable with it 100%. >> i think that's right. look, i think this is not just about making the nra comfortable. it's about the staff and .white house showing a president who doesn't really seem to know exactly what he wants to do that they're doing something and being able to show reporters that they are doing something and have something that you can put on tv and something that you can have written up in news accounts. beyond that i don't think it does a whole lot and again i'm harking back to what i said before. i expect we'll see a tweet from the president saying fake news says i'm not focused on the age minimum any more. wrong. blah, blah, blah. >> not yet. he just tweeted. and he's on to a different topic. secretary of commerce wilbur
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ross is going to speak to the large european union about eliminating the tariffs. his tariffs are a problem for farmers. you can just go research it online. maggie's outlet have reported about this in the next few days, his tariffs are a problem for an overwhelming number of workers in this country. it's clever what he's trying to do there. trying to make the problem somebody else's tariffs not his own. he's not talking about this stuff yet. >> this is all coming back to some kind of branding sales job which is what he specializes in and what he turns everything in to. it's amazing to watch wilbur ross, who is not exactly known as a populist for those of us who have dealt with him in new york over many decades, watch and seen him in action suddenly becoming this embracer of tariffs in large measure because the president has been frustrated with him and his job for a variety of reasons and this is a way to please the
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president, so it is striking to see that. >> just to put some meat on the bones with what with you're talking about with ross. he came into national per view way disaster in one of his minds and he was called out because of how restrictive the funding he was going to give the families that were affected by it and that's how he came on to the national stage the first time and again, it didn't reflect well on him then. we'll see how he does now. there are new details coming out about this helicopter crash in new york. five people died. the pilot survived. what is he telling investigators about why this happened what you're seeing on your screen next?
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all right. we have a very big election tomorrow, a special election in pennsylvania. why does it matter? the president won this district, the 18th in pennsylvania by a lot, by 20 plus points. it has a lot of democratic registration but it's been going more and more republican. it's a good metaphor of the shift of the working man and woman in this country and if this race is as close as they say it is, what does that mean about what the president's
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relatives strength is and the white house came out with its own set of recommendations to how to make our schools safer. let's discuss all of this with republican congressman from virginia, scott taylor, former navy seal and iraq war veteran. always a pleasure to see you. >> good morning, chris. how are you? >> doing well. it's not your brand of politics. you do not speak the way the president speak, i understand that. you're not here to own his words but i want to get your take on the vibe at this rally on saturday and what the president was pushing as your party's position on what should matter. let me just play you some of it. >> i'm on "meet the press," a show now headed by sleepy eyes chuck todd, he's a sleeping son of a bitch, i'll tell you. arnold schwarzenegger failed when she did the apprentice and i just kept chugging along every year. it was a big hit.
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max ine waters a very low i.q. -- >> imagine if you're rick saccone. the crowd loved it. the crowd loved it. by all indications, is that the right measure? >> as you stated early on it's not my style for sure and you also -- the lead in, and talking about the actual election itself, the president has a pretty big coalition up there. he won that district overwhelmingly. mr. saccone doesn't have the same exact coalition and the people underestimate the actual candidate itself or him or herself. so i think the president is just trying to energize his coalition his put together to help get the gop member over the edge tomorrow. obviously stylistically it's not my style. the crowd and that coalition that he put together to win that district, they like him. >> look, it is an interesting case study and does saccone win because of this or despite it.
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if you were a race up in virginia and i want to come down there, i want to say exactly with saccone, how would you feel about that? >> i don't think you can control what the president says. if the president wants to come down to virginia, i'm happy to have him here. >> why wouldn't you want him there during the election year? in terms of what it means tomorrow, what does it mean if the democrat conor lamb beats rick saccone in a place that the president won by 20 plus? >> again, i don't think they're directly -- they're obviously related but i don't think they're directly related. people underestimate the actual candidate, who is the product in their respective districts. the president has this coalition of blue dog democrats. i've seen the ads. i don't know about the actual district makeup but i've seen the ads of the democrat candidate who is positioning himself as a blue dog democrat. if that district has a lot of blue dog democrats you can believe of course logically that some of them would gravitate
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toward him. i think mr. saccone wins tomorrow but you can't say his coalition is the same as the president's because it's just not. >> you think saccone's going to win? >> i do. >> you think it'll be tight? >> i think it'll be tight, sure, but i think he'll win. >> why do you think it's tight? >> again, that's just base of the things that i've read and seen. i don't know the exact district. i don't know anybody in the district. >> i hear you. >> it's had a lot of tension. i think that the democrat candidate, i've seen some of his ads, he's positioned himself well as a blue dog democrat conservative, pro-second amendment, fiscal conservative. he's part of the reason why it's tighter, there's no question about that. people underestimate the actual candidates in the respective districts. >> let's talk a little bit about policy. we saw, of course, another horrible tragedy, veteran who had been pushed out of a ptsd program for different reasons, comes back with a weapon, kills three of the workers there, one
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of them may have been pregnant. horrible thing. he takes his own life as well and it just speaks to an obvious need to address it. are you happy with the list of reform ideas that came out of the white house, probably would not have stopped what happened with this veteran, probably would not have stopped what happened in florida? do you think we're doing enough? >> as you know i joined with congresswomana congresswoman gabbard after the shooting in arizona. they need to be obviously sent to the fbi data list. we have to have more robust background checks, no question about it. as a military guy and someone who knows people with ptsd and things like that, we should have -- we should have stronger background checks to make sure that people that should not have guns shouldn't have them or do not get them, excuse me. that needs to be looked at for sure. it would not have prevented what's being discussed with
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school safety. >> the problem even with raising the age on weapons is that if you're just looking at school shootings in particular, you really only have a couple of shooters out of the last dozen or so that would have fallen in that category, most of them wind up being older than 21. where are you in terms of looking at age the way they did with hand guns for other weapons let's say of this ar type? >> let me preface this by saying and i think we should have a reasonable conversation and people should understand there are millions and millions of people like myself. universal background checks and we don't believe they're effective because you don't have universal registration. you have current day politicians calling for that. and historically you've seen that too. we should have a robust conversation. i think that when you're talking about the age and talking about the 21 where you can't get a handgun until you're 21, should that apply to folks that are have multiple magazines or where you can take magazines out and
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semi-automatic rifles, not hunting rifles. that should be on the conversation to be discussed. no question about it. the president -- i understand that he's backed off a little bit of that right now. it should still be on the table. >> it should be you guys talking about it. who needs a commission to talk about this? it's not going to get anything done. you guys should -- >> that's right. i'm happy to have that debate. it is important that we do have that debate. some people just go to the respective sides and attack the other ones. that's not helpful. i don't think you do that in your own. we shouldn't do it in congress either. we should sit down and discuss it and see where we can move the needle in terms of school safety and increased brob p background checks and discussing that age. >> let us know if you push that effort. i'll tell you had a, they talk about what we cover and you don't. you get a discussion on the floor about these issues, it will be covered in full, i promise you that. thank you for coming on the show to make the case as always,
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always a pleasure to have you on congressman. >> thank you. we're just getting details into our "newsroom" about this deadly helicopter crash here in new york. the pilot survived but his five passengers did not and now that pilot is talking to investigators about just what happened. we have a live report from the scene next.
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announcer: this is cnn breaking news. we do have breaking news now in that helicopter crash that killed five people here in new york city. a senior law enforcement official is telling cnn that the pilot is telling investigators one of the passengers' bags may have inad vertently hit the emergency fuel shutoff causing the crash. cnn's dave briggs is live at the crash site with more. what are you hearing, dave? >> reporter: that's what we're hearing from investigator richard vance. lone survivor of this crash. he was the pilot. that's what he told investigators. 14 members of the ntsb are on their way here to try and determine what brought down this
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liberty helicopter shortly after 7:00 eastern time killing all five passengers on board. >> my name is mayday, mayday. >> reporter: the desperate pilot of this helicopter sending a frantic mayday call after losing altitude over east river. >> say it one more time. >> engine failure over the east river. >> reporter: amateur video capturing the helicopter plunging into the freezing river, then tipping over and taking on water. >> there were six people in the helicopter. the pilot freed himself, the other five did not. >> and he was like asking for help. >> reporter: tug boats rapidly arriving on the scene. emergency responders working desperately to rescued the trap passengers. >> the five people besides the pilot were all tightly harnessed so these harnesses had to be cut and removed in order to get these folks off of this helicopter which was upside down at the time and completely
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submerged. two passengers pronounced dead at the scene the other three were rushed to the hospital where they later died. it was chartered by new jersey base liberty helicopters for photography tour. this is the company's third crash in 11 years. the deadliest of those three crashes, 2009 when a pilot and five italian passengers were killed in the hudson river after colliding with an airplane, put calls in to liberty helicopters, no public comment just yet but these waters, guy, below 40 degrees, a four-mile-per-hour current making the rescue and recovery mission just about impossib impossible. the pilot richard vance telling investigators that a passenger's bag may have inad vertently hit the emergency fuel shutoff causing the crash. back to you. >> david, good for you to be there. thank you very much. following more breaking news. at least 49 people now killed in in a pal after a passenger plane crashed high landing at the cat man dew airport.
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71 passengers and crew were on board. the u.s. airlines plane is what we're looking at here. that's what you see on your screen right now. it is hard to believe that people walked away from that. we do know that 22 people were taken to local hospitals for treatment. that would be amazing if you had that number of survivors on what you're looking at. according to the airport manager, the plane approached the runway from the wrong direction. >> incredible pictures. so there's a u.s. ambassador who has just quit the trump administration and he's telling the world why he left and he's not holding back. we will hear from him in his own words live next. there are two types of people in the world. those who fear the future... and those who embrace it.
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washington post" titled why i could no longer serve this president. i resigned because the traditional core values of the united states as manifested in the president's national security strategy and his foreign policies have been warped and betrayed. ambassador john feeley joins us now. good morning. >> good morning. was there a particular breaking point for you? >> there was. i was very concerned throughout much of last year that the rhetoric and the policies coming out of the white house were in sharp dissidents to what i had practiced in latin america for a long time. it wasn't anything that had to do with latin america, it had to do with our own values in the united states. the charlottesville riots in last august, when those occurred, that was something that shook me deeply. we had overcome in the united states significant structural racism and when the president failed to condemn outright and
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fully those organizers and the people carrying the torches, i knew that i would not be able to continue serving as his personal representative. >> and why didn't you quit in august? >> well, you know, the fact is you can get up and walk away and if you do that, you leave behind a rutterless ship. i like many career officers have spent 30 years coming up through the rank and running an embassy is a lot like being the ceo or the president of a small company and if you just get up and walk away you leave a lot of people in the breech. i felt i had a very strong responsibility to do an orderly transition to ensure the policies with panama, my bilateral portfolio would continue and so that takes some time. it took about three or four months and in the end of december right around the holidays i felt i had done everything i needed to to effect
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a smooth transition and that's when i did it. >> and what about the president's policies and those on immigration? you say, as the grandson of migrant stock from new york city and eagle scout, a marine corps veteran, i'm convinced the president's policies regarding my dwrags are not only foolish and due lugsal are anti-american, such as? >> they are anti-american in the sense that immigration has always been the we will spring of our nation. i'm convinced like many americans that the united states is not just a geographic space on the global map. the united states is more about attitude. it's more about what you bring to your citizenship or your participation in the united states or in the case of many migrants, your desire for citizenship. no one is arguing, i certainly wouldn't argue, that every
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migrant is that paradigm up by your boot straps and pull yourself ahead through hard work. there are plenty of americans, native born who fall into a criminal path and there are migrants as well. but as i said in the article, we know from statistics, from the justice department, that they represent a significant minority and so therefore, i found that it was and it continues to be anti-american. to demonize my dwrants as the scapegoats for people who are legitimately agrefd because of globalized economy may have passed them by in their factory town. >> were there moments, thinking like the travel ban, or the end of the diversity lottery or the chain family migration or the building of the wall or the talk about the wall i should say, that you considered quitting over? >> i wish i weren't here today talking about this, alisyn. i love my career.
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i felt like i was born to do what i did. so it was very, very difficult and those of us who have spent a lot of time in latin america and who believe that the linkages and the connections to latin america are enormously important for our economy, for our very democracy, those of us who feel that strongly about it wanted to hang on. i wanted to hang on but i got to a point, as i said, when the president failed to condemn the neo-nazi and white supremacists who marched in charlottesville where i just couldn't continue to say i think the president's words speak for themselves. that's not being his personal representative. that's not being his ambassador and i felt that i was honor bound to resign. >> do you think you're a lone voice or do you have colleagues who feel the way you do and do you think they'll be other exits? >> there already have been a number of exits. i never intended for my exit to
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be public. i'm hear speaking with you because the administration leaked my resignation to the president which was a private letter given to the white house back in december. it was upon the leaking of that letter that i realize i had to step up. >> well, we appreciate your candor, so thank you for sharing your motivation with us this morning. best of luck. >> thank you very much. cnn "newsroom" with john berman will pick up after this very quick break.
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