of the publicity she's getting now. we'll stay on top of this story. it's not going away. thanks for your reporting. good report indeed. thanks for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." erin burnett outfront starts now. next, breaking news. republicans shutting down the house russia probe saying there's no evidence of collusion. refusing to back what intelligence officials have said which is that russia meddled in the election to help donald trump. betsy devos under fire. the white house watching in disbelief as she fumbled one answer after the other. are her days numbered. reports of more people on a russian hit list. we'll talk to one man who may be a top target. let's go outfront. good evening. tonight the breaking news. stunning conclusion. republicans on the house

intelligence committee defying their democratic counterparts by shutting down the investigation. the special counsel's investigation which is still ongoing led by bob mueller has not come to that conclusion yet. the same can be said about the senate intelligence committee. now, house republicans are actually then taking another step further saying russia did not wage a campaign to help trump win the election. this is a finding which completely contradicts the findings of the united states intelligence community. >> they wanted to hurt our democracy, hurt her, help him. putin hated secretary clinton so much that flip side of that coin he had a clear preference for the person he hated so much. >> they were trying to damage hillary clinton. they thought she was going to be elected. they wanted her bloodied by the

time she was going to be inaugurated and promote the prospects of mr. trump. >> then candidate trump, wlarl when he became the nominee, they were attracted to him because they thought he would be much better for them because he's a deal maker, a negotiator, had been to russia and would probably not beat them up about human rights abuses. they clearly favored him. >> robert mueller's indictment against 13 russians. they engaged be operations primarily intended to communicate derogatory information about hillary clinton and to support bernie sanders and then candidate donald trump. jim, these conclusions from, this is partisan. this is how intelligence republicans going against what the nation's intelligence

agencies concluded. i know you have gone back to them. are they standing by their assessment? >> they are standing by their asa assessme assessment. let me give you their response. the intelligence community stands by its assessment and intentions. we will review the house intel report findings. i should say that an intelligence official notes to me as well that this report was prepared not by political appointees but by career intelligence analysts for the agencies involved. i spoke a short time to james clapper. notes that all four of the senior intelligence officials who were involved in this that they were in agreement on what russia's intention was here and why is that? this was based on highly classified intelligence but also

on other things that we know. that you and i have talked about that the public has read about many times. things that are just out there in the public. we know that russia hacked both republican and democratic targets but only released information damaging to the democratic candidate hillary clinton. that's part of the mosaic of information that led to this assessment as well as other things. the assessment that vladmir putin had inmouse toward hillary clinton and that helped feed this preference. the intention was to muck things up. over time as it became clearer that donald trump was a viable candidate, the intention of this meddling was to help him win as well. again, reiterated that that was a cross agency, a cross intel agency judgment here fed not just by the people leading those

agencies but by career professiona professionals doing the analysis here. it's now run by a trump appoi appointee. >> that trump appointee not saying let's go back on this assessment made by many career analysts who staked their reputations, credibility on it. thank you very much. i want to go to a member of the house intelligence committee. g good to have you back. you're on the show. you called loudly and clearly for the investigation to be shut down. do you agree 100% with the conclusions of the gop members of your committee? trump campaign didn't collude

with the russians and russians didn't meddle with the intent to help trump win. >> the second part, i don't know where you're getting that from. the investigation is ending. we are writing our report based on what we heard over the last year and the scores of witnesses we heard. i'm not sure where you've read or where you seen from my committee we have concluded that the russians didn't try to affect our election because -- >> it's not saying that. what our reporting is that they didn't try to interfere with the election with the goal of helping trump win. that's what they're saying. does your report conclude that? they meddle but not to help donald trump. >> i think that it's far more objective than that. first of all, it has not been written completely. we have been wrietsing i as we have going along over the last year. over the next ten days we'll take input from the democratic

side if they want to give any and we're going to finish this up and wrap it up so it might have some relevance to the next election cycle which as you know we're already under way with. with regard to saying that our finding and our conclusion is that we know for sure that the russians intention was they were going to hurt hillary and help trump, i don't think anybody has been saying that. >> you're not questioning that conclusion from the intelligence community? >> not at all. we have seen a lot of evidence and propaganda over the last year that shows that the russians were trying to damage hillary clinton. we've also seen evidence that is a classified nature that shows the russians fully expected her to win and holding onto some very damaging evidence of her as well until after the election.

i just don't know where this conclusion is coming from that we have concluded that we don't see anything that the russians were intending to hurt hillary and hurt trump. i think it's true and i've asked this of multiple witnesses that both things can be true. there was no conclusion -- collusion with trump's campaign but the russians were trying to infiltrate our election cycle with all the things that have been reported. >> just to make sure i understand. are you saying that you believe the russians meddled, which you made it clear with the intention of helping donald trump? i want to be clear. the intelligence community had said that they believed that the russian intent was to hurt hillary clinton. as it became clear that donald trump was a viable candidate, they then took it further. they wanted to help donald trump. you're saying you do agree, you do concur with that conclusion that they are standing by

tonight? >> i believe there's evidence of everything you just said. i also believe there's evidence to where they were trying to wreak havoc on both sides. there was propaganda being put out. their m.o. is to get onto an issue whether it's black lives matter, the nfl neilings and take both sides of an issue so we're all fighting with each other and america is coming apart at the seams. in large part they have been successful at that. i don't think that's a conclusion of our committee. >> you think they were trying to do more but they were trying to hurt hillary and help donald trump? >> absolutely. >> when you say no conclusion, how are you so confident about that? there's so many reasons to ask this question.

yes you had a lot of time to look at it. bob mooueller has not reached tt conclusion. your senate colleague has said they have not reached that conclusion tonight. >> i think we have to go with the facts and evidence as we have seen down in the committee and the over 60 witnesses that we interviewed. the documents we have reviewed. just asking them was there any of the things we're looking at was there any conclusion. any of those things over the last year have we been able to find any evidence of that. you have to assume that people are telling the truth. if it comes out they are lying

then there's consequences. we have not seen that. >> my confusion is and i know you're frustration last time we talked was you felt the whole process has been bastardized. you didn't use that word. heerp here's the question i have about this because you use the words we. it's the gop. the democrats, you said you have ten days. you're working on your final memo here. the democrats are expected the say they haven't reached that conclusion. aren't the american people the real losers. your committee has failed to look at this in a bipartisan manner. >> absolutely. i'm sorry to report that there's been, as i told you last week, a

breakdown in all cordiality on that committee. mr. schiff said months ago it was going to be two reports. i remember saying it's unfortunate that we're putting that out there. we said we're diverting. is some of the things we'll be able to maybe do a partial bipartisan report at the very least. i can not guarantee that at all. >> there's a statement that's just out. okay. saying the bottom line, the russians did commit active

measures against our election in 2016. we think they will do so in the future. he then continued to tell that we disagree with the narrative they were trying to help mr. trump. that's the opposite of what you just told me. >> it's not completely the opposite. i think their goal was to create mayhem so that any candidate they want and they did believe hillary was going to win was the have that person blood died and weakened so they can use that in the future against us. >> are you disappointed that he's making this political in the way he's answering the question. he's saying we don't see that. you're saying we see other things but i also see that. you're giving a very frank

assessment. i saw, a, b and c. he's trying to say i didn't see d at all. >> those are things we'll have to clean up over the next ten days before we issue a report. i don't believe there was an intention to disrupt this election sieblg and to continue to do that in the future. if we don't get this report out so our states can try to protect themselves from future and the one thing we didn't find was the changing in roles. >> i agree with you. the problem that i'm having here is that your chairman is coming out and saying we disagree with the narrative they were trying to help trump. by trying to take it off the table he looks like he's trying

to be incredibly political. that what it looks like. you don't sound that way but he does. >> there's a narrative that says the whole thing russia was trying to do was hurt hillary clinton. >> he said that. the effect of that may have been that it helped him at the polls. the effect of what they did during the propaganda and the facebook ads and everything else was that it may have netted him some results. they were also trying to hurt both sides during this entire process. we have a lot of evidence of that as well. i think both things are try. i think he was helped by the

russian propaganda but i think russia was just generally trying to hurt everybody. until they developed this preference for donald trump. by trump's chief of the dni they stand by it. >> you said they have an explicit preference for donald trump. >> they developed it. jim said it first it was about not liking hillary clinton and over time when they realized trump was a viable candidate they developed a preference for donald trump. earlier you said i would concur. >> i think there's evidence of that. i don't know that necessarily there was a full flej campaign to do everything they could to help elect donald trump. i think their goal was chaos.

to say that we have seen a red evidence or say we got to get donald trump in there, i don't know that's true. i mean i think they did not like hillary. i also know they kept very good evidence against hillary in their back pocket and didn't release it. >> why would you end the investigation now? it sounds like there's agreement of where it is. why are you all ending it? >> two things from what i said last week is we have gone off the rails and now we're a political forum for people to leak information to drive the day's news. we have lost all credibility and we're going to issue probably two different reports. if there's anything we can come together to do to help protect us in 2018, we just had a

primary last week in texas. we've got an election tomorrow in pennsylvania. if we don't get any of these recommendations out before this cycle gets fully under way then we really have just completely wasted a year of everybody's time. hopefully we can salvage something positive. >> i appreciate your time and thank you for coming back. next, we have more breaking news. the deputy attorney general is weighing in on mueller's russia probe. should the secretary of education be fired? stormy daniel yuls with a $130,000 proposition for trump. is she controlling how the scandal is playing out?

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>> what we had up is house republicans put together a report. democrats not consulted. you have to wonder who on that committee from the republicans was consulted. it didn't that congressman rooney, who is on that meeting, didn't seem to be consulted and didn't know the detail offenils report. >> he certainly didn't. what do you make of that? >> our report says the following. it says this report shows an agreement with the intelligence community judgment with respect to putin's supposed preference for candidate trump. it says it right there. the chairman repeated this contention a number of times.

the report states that and that's what is in direct -- which directly contradicts found in the i.c. assessment. the intelligence community, the office of the director of national intelligence which is now lead by a trump appointee stands by that january asse assessment that says in equally clear english it's the u.s. assessment that vladmir putin intended to help trump and hurt hillary clinton. >> what do you make of this? they're not on the same page with their own party. they have lost all credibility when it comes to this investigation. those are his words. sdp >> that was an interesting interview you just had. talking points for republicans circulating that make the point contrary to rooney's position as well. that putin had no involvement. the travesty of all this is these committees once, from

their inception for the last three and a half decades have been non-partisan. they were members who were from safe districts who could take on tough issues and make impartial decisions. mr. nunes has taken it a whole other way as has wconway. >> that's what's stunning about this that conway is saying this because it is so partisan. it goes against every single analysis. they don't care. >> they don't care. this is the committee. let me take a step back. there's so many moving parts. this is just one major part we're trying to follow. of this major part we're following the investigation, this house committee was run by devin nunes who was going down to the white house and meeting with the white house. this is the same devin nunes leading the committee that put a

memo out a couple weeks ago that was found to be contradictory and not to be true to bolster the trump argument as well. the bottom line is washington is dysfunctional. congress is dysfunctional and this the type of committee where you don't want to see the dysfunction leak into. >> it's sad. i think congressman rooney felt sad and depressed about too. mueller has not reached a conclusion on that or any of the other issues. you heard the chairman of the senate intelligence committee saying we have not reached any such conclusion at this time. can we look at the senate and say it does appear to be working better now. >> what may be next is this committee will be very embarrassed for the position they have taken. as rooney told you they haven't

pursued witnessed. they haven't cross examined witnesses. they took a witness as whatever he or she said as the truth. they didn't subpoena documents that might contest the witnesses. this is what is well known as a whitewash and putting it out there and they may be stuck with it. >> yeah. very important. no subpoenas. a lot of witnesses refusing to answering questions. thank you both. next, even the white house alarmed by the education secretary shocking television interview. >> i've not intentionally visited schools that are underperforming. >> maybe you should. >> maybe i should. yes. >> how could betsy devos have been so unprepared. a report of a russian hit list after an ex spy is poisoned. he's our next guest. ♪

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have not intentionally visited schools that are under performing. >> maybe you should. >> maybe i should. yes. >> reporter: the secretary did not have many answers about schools in her home state but she could not miss the coast to coast uproar over her interview. in the headline, embarrassing. devos face planted. on social media, is this a freaking snl skit and on tv. >> that's the biggest train wreck of an interview i have seen in a long time. >> kind of painful. >> she didn't do her homework. >> reporter: what went wrong? consider her response to the protest of some stienudents fro the florida high school. >> they want gun control. >> they want a variety of things. >> reporter: how about the moment she drou a false equivalency between a false rape and one rape. >> are they the same? >> i don't know. i don't know. >> reporter: devos who was confirmed by a single vote has

long been under fire from congressional democrats. some who suggested she bought her job with massive donations to republicans. >> i've heard the number was 200 million. does that sound in the ballpark? >> collectively between -- >> over the years. >> that's possible. >> betsy, betsy, you can't hide. >> reporter: protester have also raged about her defense of charter school, vouchers and stiff criticism of the public school system. students erupted when i know she said historically black colleges were early advocated of school choice. there was that infamous moment when she suggested falsely that schools in wyoming might be armed. >> i would imagine there's probably a gun in the school to protect from potential grizzli s grizzlies. >> reporter: perhaps it's

inevitable this question came up. >> why have you become the most hated cabinet secretary? >> i'm not sure how that happened. >> reporter: many are not sure how this interview happened either. despite the fact that devos went in a belated tweet berage to go after 60 minutes. the bottom line is this was a reset. something to try to get the public back on her side. many political analysts saying it failed. erin. >> thank you very much. national affairs correspondent joan walsh and rick santorum joins us. is she qualified for the job. >> sure she is. i listened to that interview and the criticism about her role in michigan. she was not the secretary of education. she was a promoter of charter schools and did an excellent job in making charter schools available to kid who is were in failing schools and holding

those charter schools accountable. 22% of charter schools in michigan have been defunded. ended bauds they were not performing well. no traditional public schools have been ended during that same ten-year period. she's been an advocate for reform of giving children a quality education. >> she's been the advocate. michigan has more for profit charter schools than anywhere else and they are the ones that have been judged sub par compared to the nonprofit schools. >> not true. >> absolutely true. >> they have been found to be more sub par -- >> it's false. >> read the washington post. read the detroit free press. >> there's been several studies done in michigan. >> the for profit schools are worse than the non-profit charter schools. i'm talking about the for profit charter schools. there's more thanks to betsy devos than any other state.

$1 billion of michigan public money is going to charter schools in michigan. that is thanks to her advocacy. the idea that she does not have the responsibility to know that test scores are declining in michigan. that michigan schools are in trouble after this being her life work and why she got this job in addition to the money she gave donald trump. it's ludicrous. that was shameful interview. >> senator, let me ask you about that interview. there were some moments in it and i watched the whole thing that were cringe worthy. you may have felt the same way. one of them was this one when she was asked whether she had visited schools in michigan that are struggling to figure out what the problems are. i want to replay that exchangs one more time. >> you seen the really bad schools maybe try to figure out what they're doing. >> i have not -- i have not intentionally visited schools that are underperforming. >> maybe you should. >> maybe i should. yes.

>> orve lip she backobviously sr in a corner. >> that shouldn't be backing in a corner. you would tell me yes. >> the answer did she go to schools specifically because they were poorly performing. that doesn't mean she hasn't been. she didn't go because they are poor performing schools. i go back to the point -- >> she said i have not intentionally visited schools that are under performing. >> she wasn't the secretary of education. she was there to try to create an opportunity for charter schools so the schools of which you just referred to, the michigan has the public schools are not very good shape and that's one of the reasons she pushed to give children an opportunity to give better education and those charter schools are performing better than the tradition public schools. >> an offense to not visit? >> that's not a fireable offense but okay she wasn't secretary of education in michigan. she's been secretary of

education for a year. >> that wasn't the question. >> the idea that she -- >> that wasn't the question. stop right there -- >> let me finish. why are you filibustering me? >> when she was in michigan did she visit the schools and that's what she responded to. >> she could have gone and visited them in the year since she's been secretary of education. >> that wasn't the question. >> the particular line on school choice that's unvalidated by fact. she should be visiting these low performing schools before and after she passes judgment on why they are low performing. she had not done that. she's an ideolog. we should call them government schools rather than place that i sent my daughter very proudly. none of her kids went to public schools. the idea this wolman is carry o education is an affront to a lot of american parents. she should have done her job. leslie did not back her into a

corner. she did her job. it's betsy devos who did not do her job. >> what's an afront to american parent s a 50 percent illiteracy rate. to try to break up the monopoly and that's why people hate her so much. >> thank you both very much. next, russia blamed for poisoning an ex-spy. will there be more victims. man who may be a target is out front next. stormy daniels wants to give back $130,000 in hush money. how worried should the president be? who's the new guy? they call him the whisperer. the whisperer? why do they call him the whisperer? he talks to planes. he talks to planes. watch this. hey watson, what's avionics telling you? maintenance records and performance data suggest replacing capacitor c4. not bad. what's with the coffee maker? sorry. we are not on speaking terms.

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new tonight, british prime minister te reis a may saying it's highly likely russia poisoned former russian spy. this as a former member of the kgb who says he was the victim of a chemical attack twice before. he said he was warned on february 12th, just three weeks before the attack. >> i was communicated with chilling message. i took it as a joke because i didn't believe message. something bad is going to happen with me and some other people including mr. skripel.

>> the former spy telling the mirror that other people on the list include chris steele and bill brower. he calls himself putin's number one enemy. bill, let's stooart with this. they're saying your name is on this list. how afraid are you about that? >> i've been at odds with the putin regime for eight years since they murdered my lawyer. they've also murdered a whistle blower who came forward to help us with the case. what ever this gentleman is saying is not new. the putin regime has made a number of threats against my life. they have threatened to kidnap me. they have tried to arrest me through interpol. i'm living in state of constant persecution by the russians and that's something i've learned to live with. >> on this -- it's widely believed russia is responsible

for the poisoning. i don't know if you heard today the white house would not go that far. i want to play sarah sanders for you. >> the use of a highly lethal nerve agent against uk citizens on uk soil is an out rage. the attack was reckless. >> you're not saying that russia is behind this? >> right now we are standing with our uk ally. i think they are still working through even some of the details of that. >> bill, they had said what they thought and the secretary of state just released, to his credit, saying he agrees with brita britain's assessment that russia is responsible. is the white house on the wrong side of this? >> i'm not sure what they're agenda is at the white house. before coming on this show i read the statement from tillerson where he was very explicit that russia was behind this. i don't think there's any doubt by anybody who has been following this that russia is

behind this. it's an absolute -- russia has the means be p they have the willingness and history of doing this assess nations using these types of methods. i can't really -- i don't know what's going through the press secretary's head or trump's head in this particular issue. we have a real -- we have a real problem which is russia is using chemical weapons in the uk to go after their enemies. that's not good. >> let me ask you because you spent a lot of time in the uk to you have citizenship there. chris steele is there. sergei was russian. we heard this happen that russia has done this to other ex-russian double agents. do you think they would really do it to a british citizen, an american citizen? that would seem to be a new step. >> let's not forget that 2006,

alexander was a british citizen when he was killed in the center of london using nuclear material. i don't want to -- putin is not a man who respects people, the color of people's passport os o nationalities or where he does these hits. he goes after people for lots of different reasons. in this particular case he went after mr. skripel to make a point to the other guy who is might be disloyal in his intelligence agencies to here is what happens to traitors. we even go after their families. i think that's the message here. >> you've testified as part of the russia investigation here in the u.s. the breaking news this hour is that republicans on the house intelligence committee are

saying putin did not try to help trump win the election and there was no collusion. your reaction. >> well, my reaction is that d when i was testifying in front of the senate judiciary committee about russian interfe interference there was a lot of partisanship on both sides. different sides wanted me to agree with them on different partisan issues. it's hard for a congressional committee to get to a true answer because there's so much politics involved. i think we have to wait until the mueller investigation is completed. mueller has all the resources available to him. he's been able to do wiretaps, subpoenas, get witnesses to flip and he has a lot of resources to do that. that's the investigation i'm looking for to determine what happened with whether there was any conclusion or whether there wasn't. >> thank you so much. next, stormy daniels determined to talk about donald

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. breaking news, stormy daniels' attorney is asking for a different judge. according to the attorney, cannot have an impartial trial or hearing. that is the allegation. this comes as daniels is offering to return the $130 in hush money she received and in exchange she wants to talk. sara sidener is out front. >> reporter: now overing to give back big money she took in 2016 from donald trump's personal attorney to keep her quiet. in a letter from her lawyer to cohn daniels offers to send back the $130,000 she was paid. just 11 days before the

presidential election. after the letter was sent, daniels herself chimed in on twitter when asked why she doesn't send the money back period. i have toyed with delivering it gangsta style via private jet and cash in a gold suitcase. addi adding she was kidding. she says the alleged affair began in 2006. the offer to hand back the money comes with huge caveats. one, that giving back the money would require the entire disparaging letter would be null and void. and she could publish text messages, photos and videos relating. the president has always through

a spokesperson denied there ever was any type of affair >> the president has addressed this directly and made very well clear that none of the allegations are true. >> reporter: fighting to keep an interview she did off the air. >> the american people deserve to hear from her. >> reporter: and they are as stormy daniels is finding new notoriety on the strip club circuit. >> how about next week i pay you quadruple. >> reporter: there have been past presidents who have had affairs and there also has had democrats and republicans in office who has had affairs her attorney says it is not about the alleged affair. it is about the alleged cover up. a watchdog group has come saying

they believe laws have been broken. >> thank you. and next, trump's new campaign slogan, jeanne moos breaks it down.

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call today. tonight trump and the art of branding. here is a count down: clock for you 960 days left before the next presidential election. here is jeanne moos. >> we are still being bombarded by the old trump slogan. >> we are going it make america great again. >> make america. >> great again. >> the old slogan is out on a new st. patrick's day hat. that did not stop president trump from rolling out his new slogan. >> keep america great

exclamation point. >> greater than ever before. >> actually, ronald reagan said it first. >> make america great again. >> make america great again. >> but donald trump trademarked the phrase. >> get me my liaawyer. keep america great with an exclamation point. >> the purge election year, beat trump to his new slogan, keep america great. as for the crowning touch from the master of branding. >> exclamation point. >> reporter: keep america great fans are getting carried away with two. you know how people like to

shorten the slogan for akag. here is the new one kag rhymes with gag. >> thanks for joining us, "ac 360" starts now. >> very big night of breaking news on many fronts. a series of bombings in austin texas. republicans who control the house and intelligence committee say they are shutting it down and issuing a report which democrats have yet to say. it is to say the least white house friendly. the u.s. intelligence committee answered more than a year ago did russians meddle