the suburbs south of pittsburgh and the challenge for rick saccone. we will start counting votes any second. >> moments away from polls closing. tonight will be an important test for the president of the united states. >> first key race alert of the night. too early to call, the polls have just closed clearly in pennsylvania. too early to call between conor lamb the democrat and rick saccone, the republican. let's go to anderson. >> thanks very much. more reaction now from our panels, do you know the stakes, what are you expecting? >> i am looking for margin, i don't know if it matters all that much if it ends up being a

squeaker which side prevails. so whether it is saccone by two or conor lamb by two matters less than it is a four point margin or whatever it ends up. >> even if the democrats looses, if it is close, the democrats are going to claim it is a sign. >> difficult for them to claim it is a success story even if saccone victory. >> psychologically, there is a different impact especially for republican members. tomorrow morning if the republicans were to gather for their conference meeting and if they have lost this seat, there will be a different feeling inside the room about concern and panic for what november brings. the difference psychologically for republicans tomorrow morning is different than if they loose. >> republicans have poured a lot

of money into this. >> yeah. through pacs and the rnc has put a million dollars into it, if they lose this seat, alarm bells going off. and more republicans deciding to call it quits and retire. saying this environment is tough for me if i am in a suburban district. and we are going to have to take a look at that. yes, the margin is really important, but also the fact of a loss will be important. and we should also say by the way, this is a seat that is going to change in like what? >> november. >> in a minute. so you know, everybody is pouring all this money into this because they understand the symbolism, the republicans would not have poured a lot of money into this nor would the democrats have they didn't understand the meeting. >> if they loose, they will have

to figure out a new message. the message they ran was first heavily around the tax cut. in some ways it might have backfired. they started pulling the ads that were in the district. senior citizens were nervous about the tax cuts. older folks in this districts. so they are going to have to figure out what this means, also interesting to see what union members do in this district. about 80,000 union households in this district and if they vote differently than wait they voted in the past, it will be a good night for lamb. >> if conor lamb wins what is the message for distracts. he is a different kind of democrat, he is centrist, a veteran. he shoots guns and does a lot of things. >> he is built for the district which is the big lesson

democrats hope other democrats get across the country. when we have a democrat with a d next to their name who fits the district that we can win. and the significant thing i think about tonight is in every one of the races that we have had this year, there have been significant gains for democrats for doug jones in the race in alabama for instance, where we saw republican women, particularly younger republican women defect and cross over for democrats. the one thing we have not seen is working class democrats and republicans who voted for trump, that group particularly the republicans move. and the only way conor lamb is close, if he is close tonight, that had to happen. there are not enough younger republicans, college educated republicans and suburban republicans in the districts. he has got to significantly move

republicans who voted for trump to either stay home or they come for lamb. >> dsenator santorum what are yu looking for tonight? >> the allegheny area is going to be key. i think rick is going to do well in the out counties, the question is how much con or is going to be able to roll it up. conor lamb was the right candidate. and he didn't do it through a primary. he didn't have to face the democratic eelectrlector electo wouldn't have one the primary. if you run a bernie sanders, hillary clinton, barack obama democrat it is not close.

and i am with trump on trade, and i am with him on guns and i am trump light, and remember, there are 25,000 more registered democrats in that district. and you can say they vote republican, but they -- nationally has left them. conor lamb has said no we haven't, here i am, you can vote for me, it is safe and that is why conor lamb is in the race. i don't think that is a message that democrats can win on across the country, because they can't win primaries. guys like lamb can't win primaries and that is the problem they have in the fall. >> kirsten do you agree with them. >> i agree with both of them. even if him saying he was personally pro-life would have killed him in his tracks.

there is this debate in the democratic party saying no, we have to have people who fit the district and others saying we are not going to compromise in our core principals and i am more of the camp you have to have somebody who fits the district. still fundamentally a red district and there are 23 seats that are in moderate districts where hillary clinton had one the republicans hold and democrats are looking at those and saying, if we can win here, what can he do in a moderate district. >> jason, is this a referendum on president trump. >> not in the way the democrats like it to be. 48 hours from now, nobody is going to remember who either of these two candidates are. >> going back to who is being

fired. >>nia had exactly right as far as different numbers you have to look at. nationally, and this is the biggest stat from 2016, president trump only lost union voting households 51 to 42. part of the question here is can other republicans do as well with union voting households and we will see that. the democrat in the race ran a good race and when you have these special elections and keep in mind i led the comeback come pa -- people get to know these candidates. at an intimate level, people are, i like that lamb guy, and the other guy has a goofy mustache. but we see it differently than the people that are there.

>> here the president says i am going to do steel tariff, and i am going to do aluminum tariff. and both the democrat and the republican support this. and also, he is anti nancy pelosi. >> said he won't vote for her. >> right. here you have a democrat on e every sort of orthodoxy saying i am not with you on that. and if the democrats have fortitude and want to win and nominate these candidates, they can do it in these districts but i am with you, i am skeptical. >> when you hear republicans talking to manu saying he didn't run a good campaign. is that true, or just setting the stage for this dynamic. >> there were three candidates in the caucus. remember, this was a special

election, there wasn't a primary and the two leading candidate, two state senators went after each other and rick came from third to win the primary. and so he was considered sort of the hard core conservative candidate, socially conservative and that was his mantra and had that base and grew it to be able to win it. you can make the argument that somebody like that doesn't win a primary. yeah, he probably wasn't our strongest candidate, i don't accept the fact that, look, this guy is a veteran, a smart guy. >> a state rep. >> a state rep, and a good communicator, and did he raise any money? no he didn't. >> standing by from votes from pennsylvania, can democrats pull off an upset in trump country. more chaos today in washington

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connor lamb the democrat versus rick saccone. we will bring you updates as soon as they come in. back with jake. >> the president fired his secretary of state with a morning tweet and that is how the secretary of state found out he had been. and he is looking to oust more of his top aides as he shakes up his staff. jim sciutto has more details. >> reporter: and these changes could be coming very soon. we are told president trump is considering a wider shakeup as he seeks more like minded adviser, h.r. mcmaster soon. have also felt out candidates to

replace -- though he also suggested that kelly might prefer life in the military. officials say there is no solid sense of how long kelly will last in the west wing where he has brushed up against members of trump's own family. senior officials said a shake up could happen as soon as this week. other officials suggest a longer time line saying he could execute changes over the course of a few months. the president saying he is nearing a cabinet more to his liking. >> and also been sounding out the idea of replacing his va secretary with energy secretary former governor rick perry.

general clapper, thanks for being here, one of the reasons president trump said he fired rex tillerson was because he is more on the same wavelength as mike pompeo who he is tapped to be the next secretary of state. do you think pompeo is on the same wave length as trump specifically on the meeting with kim jong-un? >> i think it is clear that mike pompeo is on the same page philosophically with president trump. and in some sense, i think state department is actually a better fit for him because he is active, policy activist and that is a better place to be than director of cia. >> general clapper you continue to be outspoken about the concern for the threat that

seems to continuing from russia. you know now the cia director pompeo from his days on the intel committee based on what you know now, do you believe he shares your concerns about russia? >> i think he probably does. he has been pretty consistent in his statements about the assessment and certainly in this congressional appearances and has pretty much reaffirmed that the russians meddled. and one thing i take issue is him saying it had no impact on the election. no way to gage that. actually stretch his logic to suggest that it didn't have impact on some voter decisions. when consider the election was settled by less than 32 states which the russians targeted. and we certainly didn't examine

that in our assessment that we did in january 2017, but i think he as publicly acknowledged the threat posed by russia. russia is waging war in information realm against the united states. >> i would like to ask you about the woman whom president trump has tapped to be the first woman cia director, current deputy cia director. she will take over the briefings which is reportedly how president trump and mike pompeo how they bonded so well. she is controversial because of a lot of things in her past. more specifically, i want to ask you since you have worked with her and you do approve of her, how you think she is at

communicating and whether or not she will be able to form that same relationship with the president. >> that is obviously very personal. certainly the president has seen enough of her when she filled in for director pompeo. he has confidence in her. gene is a different person than mike pompeo and it is a great thing. should be the third woman in the history of intelligence committee to head up one of the major agencies and of course the first for cia. apart from being a woman is her competence. i think she is very good. the agency rank-and-file look positively on her as director. and she will work well with dni coats. >> thanks very much. back with the panel. it is fascinating for a president who became known for

saying you are fired to not actually fire anybody face to face. to fire his own secretary of state on twitter and for the secretary of state a guy who has been traveling all around the world for this president to discover it. >> the secretary of state and i thought the lack of decorum in the way it was carried out was stunning even for this administration. what i am reminded of is we all tend to fixate on so much of this change on a daily basis with the administration. and i ask about the political dynamics and whether it resonates with his base. and i am not convince it does. >> it didn't actually surprise me that much, look at the way he fired comey. he really rated comey. and he didn't like tillerson that much. it was rude and a bad way to do it. >> and even though he was crying

this is fake news when this has been reported some time. >> it has been brewing. i was talking to a source today that the president, not only does he disagree with tillerson, but the guy doesn't treat him that well. he is rude. he may not get along with mcmaster, at least he treats him with an amount of deference. he believes that is totally gone with rex. >> and rex didn't show him an awful lot back. he didn't mention him in his remarks. i think that is one of the positions where that is just so untenable. you can't have on the world stage people know that the person representing the president of the united states and the country to the world has zero relationship with the president. >> and this was somebody that

donald trump didn't know, somebody who came highly recommended from condi rice, he was the establishment pick. and now trump is saying he wants to cast another members of this second season of the trump administration. and that is what he is doing with pompeo in this new role if he gets confirmed and it is likely that he will. he is somebody who promised disruption. >> also, he wasn't very well liked at the state department either. and i think they are somewhat relieved to see him go, and also, i'm sorry, if somebody who worked for me called me a moron and went out and didn't recant it, i would probably have fired him long before donald trump did. and he gave him an opportunity to resign and he didn't. so i wouldn't do it on a tweet, but also this is one of those

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. welcome back. we're waiting for the first results to come in from the special election from pennsylvania 18th congressional district. the results, the first votes should be coming in fairly soon. we will share those results with you as soon as they come in. let's get back to jake. >> joining us is tom perez. huge race going on. i want you to take a look at some figures we have when it dom comes to spending. con conor lamb has outraised rick saccone significantly. if you look at the outside groups, it is significantly more. on the republican side, $10.5 million raised by republican groups compared to not even $1 million raised by

democratic groups. if conor lamb wins tonight, are democrats going to do more to help democrats running, is the dnc going to help them running in districts like this one. >> we invested in districts certainly not enough as the republicans. we have been investing everywhere. helping candidates up and down the ticket, pennsylvania and elsewhere. and so has the democratic congressional campaign committee. we have a spectacular candidate and he is poised to perhaps get across the finish line. >> so i want to obviously, a lot of the money has been spent on ads i want to give our veiewersa taste of the ads that are running. here is one that is anti conor

lamb. >> his name is conor lamb but in washington, he would be one of nancy pelosi's sheep. >> one that is pro conor lamb. >> it is all a big lie. i have said on the front page on the newspaper that i don't support nancy pelosi. >> so the question for you, is given the fact it is clear that republicans are going to run against nancy pelosi again and this seems to be a winning strategy if we assume conor lamb will win tonight to distance himself. will you and party chairs -- to step away from nancy pelosi? >> democrats are going to do

what they think is best to win the races. and conor lamb is talking about the issues, and talking about health care because so many people are suffering from opioid addiction and his opponent wants to talk about things on washington. >> you don't think nancy pelosi is a drag? >> conor lamb is poised to win tonight because he is focused on the issues. fighting for health care and fighting for pension security and fighting for good jobs that pay a decent wage and his opponents was supporting bills to expand outsourcing of jobs. supporting to have foreign steel be used to build buildings. and conor lamb has been standing up to the issues that matter most to people and that is why we are winning. >> throwing it to wolf blitzer.

>> key race. barely 1% of the votes are in. and conor lamb is in 52% to rick saccone. he is ahead 452 votes to 411 votes. these are the first votes that are coming in. we expect the trickle to explode soon. let's go to john king at the magic wall. still very, very early. but lamb has at least at this point a slight lead. >> if you are in the lamb campaign, this is 1st precinct, and fewer than 500 votes. this slice up here is in the district. and conor lamb has to keep it blue and keep it blue all night. 1st precinct in, you are happy in the lamb campaign. 40% of the districts here, 20

plus here. 20 plus here. and if this is blue at the end of the night, this is a blowout. when you get out here in the rural areas this is reliably red republican countries. if that stays blue, we have a blowout. but very early. just getting started here. when the votes start to come in, the pace starts to pick up. >> green county, that county is on the border with west virginia and helps explain why it is more conservative than the rest of the state. >> again, very, very early. but conor lamb is leading here and i will bet you a couple of dollars that doesn't last down there. this is where we are in the house race right now. i want to take this off and go back in time to the presidential race in this district. again, donald trump won huge down here in this county. huge. it is a small county and not a lot of votes. but runs it up huge here. and this was the most

interesting part of the district. hillary clinton won allegheny county by 16 points. but in this slice, this is a suburban a suburban area and donald trump narrowly beat her. this is key tonight. this is where you have the most democrats and most people. those are the voters who left the president of the united states. as we watch these numbers again, still stuck on this one p1st prt and it is down here. he is off to the right start and a long way to go. >> let's go back to the 18th congressional district as a whole. rick saccone takes a slight lead. you can see what is going on and 14 votes he is ahead.

what happened? more precincts came down here in green county. and this is a reliable republican area. and as i predicted it switched back. i assume this one is going to stay red as we go through it. the key is up here. conor lamb ahead if the math is right there, yeah, some more votes came in here in the allegheny county area. flip, there we go. >> the results coming in a lot more quickly. a lot more coming up. and live to the candidate headquarters in pennsylvania as more votes come in. republicans in trump country, they are trying to hold off a wave of enthusiasm from a fired up democratic base and right now democrat in a slight lead.

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up by 523 votes. still early. let's go to john king. only 2% is in. >> a long way to go. if you are in the lamb campaign, number one, a lot of counting today. if you are in the lamb campaign, the more votes that came in are here. the slice of allegheny county. the southern most part of the allegheny county, ahead 62% to 37%. that is critical. if you talk to the lamb campaign democrats in this state, they think, he needs to be above 55%. when it comes to the allegheny county slice of the district. if you pull this out here and go back to the presidential campaign, president trump carried this part of allegheny county. red, red, red. this tonight has to stay blue for conor lamb.

this is a smaller county. we expected this one, green county. we expect rick saccone is win this. it is about the margins. in the red county for conor lamb it is about the margins. this race will be decided right here. it's early but blue right now for conor lamb. at the end of the night, this has to be blue and he needs to be 55 or above. >> some more votes came in. conor lamb is ahead by 1100 votes. this is significant election because president trump was there over the weekend campaigning for rick saccone. >> you heard him talk about if the democrats win, they are going to take away. take away the tax cuts and the second amendment rights. what the president was trying to do was trying to recreate this.

senator san torrum saying there is a lot of democrats here. but for house, this last two elections the republican was unopposed. president trump trying to recreate this or as close as he can to it. but we are in a midterm election. president trump learning now, midterm election tends to be tough client. we will keep counting. >> more results coming in. we'll be right back.

welcome back. right now conor lamb ahead by

1829 votes. i want to check in with correspondents. jason? >> reporter: well a few cheers when you saw some of those early numbers go up at the lamb campai campai campaign headquarters. if they are able to pull off an upset here tonight, they are going to owe a great deal of gratitude to the labor community. a great deal of outreach to try to reach out to members of the labor community, especially the builders, the traders, steelworkers. and also the outreach in the more rural part of the districts as well and so one of the goals early on in the campaign was just to get within the margin of error with rick saccone. they feel so far they have been able to accomplish that. but a lot of crossed fingers in

the room tonight. >> thanks. let's go to alex marquardt. >> reporter: a lot less muted. we saw the chairman of the allegheny republican party to try to rile up the crowd. in addition to those votes that you have seen, we have heard of the turnouts of allegheny county. we are told that it is high. long lines and they are going to let anybody who was in line at 8:00 p.m. when the polls close continue to vote. as for the mood at the saccone campaign. a long time friend said she was anxious to see numbers. and they say they feel good but that is anecdotal. they don't have new mexicos. anybody who might have data like

the nrcc they are calling here asking for information. this is a very bare bones campaign, for sacco . thanks very much. 8% of the vote is now in. 2,000 votes ahead. c conor lamb. you've been looking closely where the numbers are coming in. what are you seeing? >> when you look at the precincts that are in, conor lamb is running ahead of where he is. but as john pointed out, you've got a lot of these coming from allegheny, but i think they're coming from a part of allegheny where what conor lamb is doing is pretty impressive. in green county he's right with the gop on this. he's really way ahead of where i think he should be. again, the early precincts, but right now it looks like it's going well for conor lamb. >> you ran in these precincts

approxima? >> yeah. i'm not looking as closely as joe s but what i would say is that those numbers and they're primarily allegheny county numbers, that's pretty much where he needs to be. if they're from the western part of the district, western part of allegheny county, those will be great numbers. i don't think he'll get those numbers from there. it all sort of depends. if they're more south, those are good numbers, but saccone is still in the ball game. >> 10% of the vote in. lamb 2,400 votes ahead. we saw president trump go there this past weekend. made kind of a rousing speech, a lot of it off the teleprompter for the candidate and for himself. do we know yet if president trump can drive voters to the poll fist it's not president trump being voted on? >> i think to reorient the question, i think you're kind of asking the wrong thing.

when the president or when people actually get involved, because so much of this race was determined before the president got involved. conor lamb did a really good job of raising money early, of defining the race. he got out there and presented this image. >> is that a wise thing? if that's true, shouldn't the president get involved earlier? >> he's got to get out there and support republicans, but the problem with rick saccone, you can't wait until the 11th hour to become a trump. if you want to get the independents, you need to get out there and do it. voters can figure out who is real and who is fake. the president got out there and supported him. >> saccone brags he was trump before trump. i don't see him having been reluctant. >> look at his fundraising. he was outraised 5-1 on

fundraising approxima fundraising. >> but he's not a candidate that was late to the trump train. he's a trumpy candidate. >> he came across as establishment and i think that was part of the problem. >> how? >> he's in the statehouse. he doesn't come across -- >> so he had elective office. >> no he sounds he's a part of washington. when you flip on the tv and see commercials, a lot of it looks really cookie cutter. >> in alabama what happened is the president with luther strange, roy moore wins, the president kind of isn't sure what he's going to do. then he decides he's for him. but he came to tuscaloosa i think it was. excuse me, pensacola. when he did, roy moore went up by four points the intensity on the republican side went up and it served roy moore. >> so you say no doubt he can drive votes. >> yeah. the thing that i worried about is he came in on friday, you

know, on saturday moore was up by three. on sunday he was up by two. on tuesday we win by 23,000 votes. what happens if the president came in on sunday? but he came in saturday in this one. and the margin may have been -- we don't know what the margin was. the president does energize voters and does move voters, even for somebody who he wasn't -- was he really for moore? >> he was for saccone and saccone was for trump and i disagree with you, jason. rick saccone is a conservative ti. he was running for the senate before he decided to switch and run for congress. he was running as the most conservative for the united states senate. i don't think there's any question rick saccone ran with trump, ran as a conservative and was very vocal. he didn't have a lot of money so he couldn't get the money out.

the republican party was late to the taeble about defining him. conor had done a great job insulating himself. he's a marine. he's good-looking. he's got a great family name. he says i'm catholic. he says all the right things. the social conservative sort of things. talk about climate change in a coal area and a gas area. he ran the district and was the right candidate for them to run and i keep coming back to the fact 25,000 more registered democrats, you can say it's a republican area, yes it votes republican in national elections and yes it voted for tim murphy for all those years. there's still democrats down there and he is a democrat they can vote for. >> a democrat to vote for republicans though. it's misleading i think to say that. because the last time there was a democrat in that seat was 15 years ago or something. i mean, it's not -- you can't really compare those things. this wasn't even on the radar for the democratic party. this was not a place they even saw as being in play.

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