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he is also an obama guy? he is an obama era holdover. that gives the president great political cover. and saying our veterans deserve the best. if someone goes he's in bad shape, the irony is the people in his agency like him and think he does a good job. mark preston, and so do you. >> congratulations, by the way, pal. >> thank you. i'll be seeing you soon. to our international viewers, cnn talk is next. for our u.s. viewers, there is a lot of news. let's get after it. >> even though they don't see eye to eye, it would be good if we were dealing with honest conversation. >> they announced kim jong-un would like to meet with president trump. let's see what happens. >> new documents show is a deeper link between the trump organization and payments to silence stormy daniels. >> this is a president who said i'm going to be a different type
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of candidate. >> what an entangled web we weave when we practice to steve. >> what started in florida on display in schools across the cup. >> the 17 people that died in florida they can't protest anymore because they're dead. >> change is coming. change is here spfplt change is here to stay. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning, everyone. welcome to your "new day". president trump admitting that he made up information in a meeting with canadian prime minister justin trudeau. he told donors in a closed door event he had no idea whether the claims he was making were true. and making a veiled threat to pull troops out of south korea if he does not get a better deal with s seoul. >> apparently there was a second
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lawyer at the president's company that was connected to efforts to silence her. staffers inside the white house are nervously waiting for the next shoe to fall. one tkpheupb straegz official telling cnn the president wants to fire every cabinet member he considers deadweight. we begin with abby phillip live at the white house. the cabinet was supposed to be the best. now he is looking to see who to take out next. >> reporter: the president is in a hunting move. he was in st. louis campaigning talking a whole lot about himself and not so much about the republican senate candidate he was there to endorse. his remarks at this private fund-raiser have really stunned people in the united states and overseas where he really illustrated how far he is willing to push his u.s. allies in order to get what he wants on the herb of trade. the "washington post" reporting that president trump admitted to making up facts in a meeting
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with canadian prime minister justin trudeau while recounting this familiar story. >> he said, no, no, you have a trade surplus. i said, no, we don't. i said mr. prime minister, we do not. >> reporter: the "post" reports that he added an anecdote that was false. >> we are looking for solutions for paths forward. >> reporter: the president blasting a number of america's closest allies, including south korea, accusing them of only caring about themselves on trade. the "post" reports that mr. trump seemed to threaten to pull u.s. troops in south korea if he didn't get what he wanted on trade. the veiled threat coming hours before a delegation arrives in washington to discuss kim jong-un. >> we have had a problem for years with north korea. let's see what happens.
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let's see what happens. >> reporter: president trump's new chief economic adviser larry kudlow will soon join the white house despite opposing his tariffs plan. >> we don't agree on everything. in this case, it's good. he now has come around to a negotiating point. >> reporter: kudlow's appointment comes as the president has been complaining that his cabinet fell well short of his expectations and he wants to purge the deadweight. sources tell cnn that mr. trump is growing increasingly frustrated with david sul shulkin and ben carson. betsy devos causing alarm after failing to answer questions about schools in public interviews. >> have public schools in michigan gotten better? >> i don't know. overall -- i can't say overall they have all gotten better. i have not intentionally visited schools underperforming. >> reporter: anxiety growing
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over additional departures as new documents obtained by cnn directly link another trump organization employee with efforts to silence stormy daniels about her alleged affair with the president. the documents show jill martin, a senior lawyer with mr. trump's company, filed an arbitration document against daniels last month. michael cohen, the president's personal lawyer, still insists he was acting alone and in his personal capacity when he paid her $130,000. and the second lawyer, jill martin, says she was acting privately as an attorney for cohen when she filed those documents that cnn uncovered. we will be wait to go see who is next on the list of people he says he wants to get rid of it. >> abby, thank you very much.
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i was just getting my script prepared. back by popular demand, he will do another dramatic reading for you. john avlon, one of the people who demands it, is and julie pace who doesn't know what to expect right now and is regretting accepting our invitation to come on this morning. julie, great to see you. the reason we're making light of this is i think there has never been a better window into the idea that president trump doesn't need facts or figures, he doesn't need it to be true. he goes with a hunch and he goes with his gut feeling. even when we now know with world leaders. so he was is at the fund-raiser bragging, explaining -- it was a closed door meeting, but there is audio of it. we don't have the audio yet. we have a transcript from the audio from the "washington post". he was bragging about how with justin trudeau -- >> he lied. that's what he was bragging about. he lied to the head of cabinet. the man who loves to talk about
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fake news is the biggest pupweb purveyor of it. >> you're trump. i'm trudeau. >> trudeau came to see me. he's a good guy. he said. >> no, no, we have no trade deficit with you. we have none. donald, please. >> trump said, mimicking trudeau, nice guy. good looking guy. he comes in -- >> donald, we have no trade deficit. >> and he's very proud because everybody else, you know, we're getting killed. so he's proud. i said wrong, justin. you do. i had no idea. i just said you're wrong. >> sounds familiar. >> you know why? because we're so stupid. and they thought they were smart. i said you're wrong, justin. he said -- >> nope. we have no trade deficit. >> i said, well, in that case i feel differently.
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he goes on -- i said but i don't believe it. i sent one of our guys out, his guy, my guy, they went out. i said, check because i can't believe it. >> this is him. this is still trump. >> well, sir, you're actually right. we have no definite is sit. but that doesn't include energy and timber. and when you do we lose $17 billion a year. >> it's incredible. >> so good. other than the laughing, it does remind the reading of the passion that the catholics will go through in a couple of weeks. >> it was very enjoyable. i like that a lot. >> we worked on it. >> what are we to make that the president goes without facts with a foreign leader and just runs with his hunch? >> well, it's at the same time both shocking and not surprising
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at all. because in the one sense you have the president of the united states knitting that he is going into meetings with foreign leaders and a close ally in this case. this is not an adversary. this is prime minister of canada. he is making up facts on the spot. and saying things that he eventually knows not true. that is shocking. on the other hand, it does follow a pattern for this president. he does speak really loosely in formal and formal settings. he does tend to live in a world of his own facts. so is that element is not surprising. i do think, though, it sends a message to allies who are used to having a relationship with the united states that is open, that is fact based. that's not going to be the case for this president. that's something they have been learning the last several months and it's simply not going to change. >> it is an example how the
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president is very comfortable with truth abuse. at the end of the day, the truth is a side as well. but here's the problem, john. those who are loyal to trump will not care about what he just said that he does. they will say, well, this is deal making. his savvy. they all do it. i just don't understand what the threshold is for people in terms of wanting to is see trump's behavior anything other than acceptable. within the base. >> let's be clear, trump's base seems to be a very solid third of the country. you know, you can fool some of the people all the time and you can't fool all the people all the time. it is not about the impact of trump being fact free, loose, and charming in meetings and how that affects the base. it is how it affects the presidency and the president on the world stage. if other world leaders look at us not as a, you know, a beacon of liberty, a place run by a man
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who is committed to facts and and is a straight shooter and has integrity, if you believe character matters, which it does, as teddy roosevelt says, it denigrates the presidency is and our places a world leader. that's the problem. we are not going to be able to convince even that facts matter. we can say they exist. we can say we have to have fidelity to them even if the president doesn't. >> and 2020 is a long time away. so just playing to the base is different. a lot of stuff that happens, including international relations. here's what the president said about the korean peninsula. we lose money on trade and we lose money on the military. we have right now $32,000 soldiers between north korea and south korea. let's see what happens. julia, tying those two things together, people feel it was a threat to south korea.
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>> that is something that the south koreans have been reaching for. they have been trying to act as an intermediary here. for the leaders of south korea, also japan, another ally, where the u.s. has troops. the idea that the president would so casually throw out the idea on of perhaps withdrawing those troops will be very chilling for those countries. >> and getting in his own way. look, i get there are those on the left who say the president can't do anything because it is normalizing somebody they believe in haeurptly is a bad person. putting aside the extremes, opening a door to speaking with north korea is a good potential opportunity. >> sure. >> however, what he just said muddies up having that sitdown and keeping the alliance strong. it is fundamental. the big concern is the north would achieve the south away. >> he can't help himself particularly in areas of
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strength. the president deserves a lot of credit for taking a tough line on north korea and maybe chasing the calculus of that he regime. that is a positive thing. but this is a form of extortion. this is a nice dmz you've got there. be a shame if something handled to it. >> oh, my gosh. >> it puts south korea over a barrel, one of our longest standing allies in the region. >> let's talk about the revolving door at the white house because it continues. senior economic adviser, there is talk it will be larry kudlow. >> the president tweeted larry kudlow will be my chief economic adviser. our country will have many years of economic success with low taxes, unparalleled innovation, fair trade, and unexpand saing
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labor force leading the way. maga. >> as a counterbalance to free trade not that long ago. now the president adopted this on his own. larry kudlow is a free trader. but importantly he will be a messenger for the president. he wants people he knows from tv. he wants a cast of characters in his cabinet. >> listen, the president watches cable news. we know that to be true. so he does have lots of people from larry kudlow, mercedes slack now in the press office. he's considering josh bolton. k.t. macfarland was on on tv. so that is something that the president values, julia. but, listen, larry kudlow is not in complete lock step with the president, particularly on tariffs. >> i had an interesting conversation with larry kudlow yesterday after he confirmed he would be taking this job. he said he stpwraes with the
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president on tariffs but is in accord on his economic policy, which is hard to square because tariffs are so central to what the president is trying to do. i think the question will be what kudlow's role will be not on television but actually in the room when he's at the white house. is he going to be someone who is going to try to influence this president, push him towards his positions on policy, or is he largely going to be a yes man who goes on television, be someone i think the president is a strong communicator and less involved in the policy making of this job. >> he is not known as a ye is s man. it will be interesting how he handles his relationship with the president. but also how he hams the relationships with peter navarro and other people there. he could be an agitator in the white house. he is an active opponent. >> very interesting. julie pace, john avlon, thank
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you for the analysis this morning. >> we are talking about how the president conducts these relationships with allies. off they end up being really, really important. britain condemning russia for a nerve agent attack. we have heard from the ambassador to the u.n., the ex is secretary of state rex tillerson. but the president has not come out and denounced moscow's actions. why is he silent? senator angus king, next and a russian threat you cannot see. cnn exclusively goes inside a nuclear-powered sub to see how the u.s. is preparing for potential threats in the arctic. stay tuned for that ahead. matra. let's go to sumatra. the coffee here is amazing. because the volcanic soil is amazing. so we give farmers like win more plants. to grow more delicious coffee. which helps provide for win's family. all, for a smoother tasting cup of coffee. green mountain coffee roasters.
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joining us now is angus king, serves on the armed services and intel committee. senator, always a pleasure. to g to see you. >> good morning. so am i wrong to be suspicious of why once again the president, who seems always to be spoiling for a fight, brags about lying to the canadian prime minister will not mention vladimir putin or russia even after an alleged murder on the soil of one of our greatest allies? >> well, i think you take what you can get in this situation. nikki haley made a strong statement at the u.n. the white house released a strong statement backing up the british. the president i guess hasn't been asked about it or hasn't made a statement about it. i wish he would. i listened to nikki haley's speech yesterday. she listed all the things russia was doing wrong in the world, talking about chemical weapons and what happened in britain. never mentioned what happened here in our election and what's going on at this very minute.
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>> that wasn't a mistake either, right, senator? >> let's say it was a very loud omission. i think that's unfortunate because we're never going to get to the bottom of this. we're never going to prevent the russians from doing what they did in 2016 until they acknowledge they did it. >> he has spoken on it. he has a light touch. that's the point because that's not what he is known for. here's a little bit of sound. >> it sounds to me like it would be russia based on all the evidence they have. i don't know if they have come to a conclusion. it sounds to me they believe it was russia. and i would certainly take that finding as fact. if we agree with them we will condemn russia or whoever it may be. >> now, that has happened. he just hasn't done it, senator. there is a point of fact here. that would be a fine prescription for how to proceed if we didn't know anything. but the president had to know that theresa may already addressed parliament and said we
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know it was russia. so it wasn't that he was waiting for facts. he didn't want to act on the facts. >> i think maybe you are being a little hard. he said we don't know all the facts. the white house just issued a statement. it's true he didn't issue the statement. the statement i saw, and it was on white house stationery, it was very strong. >> you don't think it has to come from the president directly? >> i think that's preferable. i think we are cutting the lines fairly fine here. >> now, something else you were talking about we saw in the nikki haley statement takes us into this universe about russia and what we know to be true in this country. the idea of, well, they may have interfered in the election but they were not doing it to advantage donald trump and help him be president. that was the conclusion drawn by the hoist intel committee, gop side, in their closing down of the probe. not only on no proof of
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collusion but they were not trying to help putin. do you accept that conclusion? >> i don't think that passes the tefplt start with the e-mail from goldstone, the go-between on that famous june 9th meeting with donald trump and jared kushner and don jr. and paul manafort. they said the russians want to meet with you. they have dirt on hillary. he said an amazing thing, this is part of the russian government's efforts to help your father. i mean, how much more clear can it be? the intelligence committee concluded this. trey gowdy concluded this. i think to say there wasn't evidence that they were trying to tilt the election toward mr. trump is, like i say, it doesn't make any sense in light of really overwhelming evidence. >> arguably the strongest point of mitigation is, well, it wasn't just to help trump.
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it was just so sow division. they were anti-bernie. they were e going after african-american empowerment groups. they were trying to seed disfunction and chaos. >> those two things can both be true. they were trying to seed division and chaos, no question about that. they were also definitely trying to hurt hillary clinton. that's perfectly clear. and they were trying to help donald trump. i don't think that was their intention at the beginning as i have seen the intelligence and the information. i think they were just trying to disrupt and undermine our democracy, which they did a pretty good job of. but toward the summer of 2016, it's pretty clear from the data that they were lean toward helping donald trump and trying to hurt hillary clinton. as i say, no less.
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>> they will take the word until you issue your report. first, is it your understanding that the white house can slide somebody from one cabinet position into another without going through any recertification by the senate? >> no. i've never heard that theory. oh, no. if mike pompeo moves to secretary of state, there has to be a full confirmation process. hearings and senate vote on confirmation. those are two very different jobs. the qualifications for director of the cia and secretary of state are very different. >> i hear you. i just wanted you on record about that in case there are any developments going forward. now we have two names in the mix. pompeo, as you alluded to, from the cia to the state department. and we have who is going to succeed him at the cia, gina haspel. how do you feel about those two
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people at this point? >> i'm going to reserve judgment on both of them. i voted for mike pompeo going to the cia. i felt he had the technical background and skills to run that agency. the cia is essentially a fact agency. their job is to provide policymakers with information. state is an entirely different job. it is a policy job. it is not a technical fact job. he is the smokesman for the united states of america across the world. i have questions about that because he has views expressed over the years in congress, and i think that needs to be examined. gina haspel is another question. she has generally a very positive reputation in the intelligence community. jim clapper supports her. mike morrell, acting director of the cia. on the other hand, she was very much involved in the torture
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situation in thailand during that very unfortunate period. as john mccain characterized it one of the darkest times in american history. >> i know what you're about to say. i want to tee it up for people. leon panetta the other day said you know what, i back her. she was doing a program that met where america's understanding methods were at that time, post 9/11. they didn't create these. they were found legal at the time. we had a change of heart. panetta and them changed the rules. but she had a hand in coughing up what the practices were. that bothers you. however so? >> my question is, did she? there was a videotape of one of these so-called enhanced interrogation. you and i would call it torture. the general counsel of the cia said do not destroy this tape. it was destroyed.
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and i want to know what her role was in that decision. to me, that takes it out of, well, we thought incident was legal and we did this. she will come before our committee. and i think she has some things she's got to make clear. and also i want to be sure she understands now what the law is. and the law is no morte torture. it's not what we do. we have a president who has talked about waterboarding in the past as not a big deal. and i want somebody who is going to say, no, mr. president, the law doesn't allow that. >> will she say that? she thinks torture can work, which is not what most of the intel community will tell you. senator king, thank you, always always. appreciate your perspective. from coast to coast students walked out to send a message to
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nearly a million students walked out of their classrooms wednesday in a nationwide protest demanding action to stop gun violence. the show of student solidarity coming one month after the florida school massacre and response of lack of action by congress. one thing is happening in congress, and florida congressman ted deutch knows all about it. good morning, congressman. >> good morning, alisyn. how are you? >> i'm well. i know you marched alongside the students yesterday. what was the scene like? >> well, we walked out of the capitol on the lawn and greeted thousands of students who were part of this national movement that refuses to allow things to go back to the way they were. refuses to allow the gun lobby to push the issue off the center of the agenda and keep it where it belongs and not allow extremists to control this
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debate. there are common sense measures we can talk right now to make our communities and schools safer. the kids know it. the american people know it. they're going to continue to speak out until we do. >> let's talk about that. you introduced a bipartisan bill. it was passed by the house. that is noteworthy, i think, about gun violence. let me just tell people what's in it. $50 million a year for a new federal grant program to train students, teachers and law enforcement on how to spot and report signs of gun violence. we have a graphic that also says that it's going for metal detectors for security in schools. you admit, however, it does not do the tougher work of banning bump stocks, fix the background checks or getting the women's of war, as you call them, off the street. do you think it's a good start? doesn't go far enough? >> sure.
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let's be clear about one thing, alisyn. this is not a response to the tragedy that happened at marjory stoneman douglas. this is a piece of legislation that i introduced a couple of weeks before the shooting. it is a about bill. it is the kind of thing that can help. it can identify potential threats and keep schools safe. a lot of people are trying to suggest that this is the response. it is not the response. i'm glad it passed. i'm glad we were able to do something in a bipartisan way. the fact that it was on the floor is only because of the advocacy of families and these students. this isn't the necessary response. we have to move forward on all the things that have broad bipartisan support. this is outrageous. it is outrageous that one month after the shooting the speaker of the house and the senate majority leader refused to let us debate the common sense things like bump stocks, raising the age to buy guns at 21 and
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universal background checks, refuse to go allow us to debate them on the floor. yes, this was a good bill. we can't allow the gun lobby or anyone else to let anyone believe this is the response to the shooting. we know what we have to do to keep our schools and communities safe. we just need the increased pressure of these kids to make that happen. on the 24th, the "march for our lives", when there are marches in more than 700 cities around the united states and the world, the reaction to act will be greater. >> glad you clarified that. obviously it is confusing. marco rubio, who represents florida and was there at our cnn townhall, he introduced a bill yesterday about daylight saving time. he wants to make it year-round. do you think that helps gun violence? >> i assume that's a rhetorical
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problem. >> my point is there are things being done in congress but not on this issue. and this is his home state. i want you to explain why this would be his priority. >> i cannot explain that. and i will not debate the merits of extending daylight saving time year-round. that is not a serious debate we should be having a month after 17 people were slaughtered in marjory stoneman douglas high school. it's crazy. come on. we know -- alisyn, you were there. you met with these kids. you know how passionate they are. and you know they are going to continue to force this onto the agenda. everything that's done in this town where the gun lobby is involved is meant to distract ask change the subject. we cannot let that happen. if they want to debate daylight saving time, go ahead and do that. i'm not taking part. >> i don't know. i'm not as confident as you are
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that the kids's action and the marches and these national movements will get the senate or your colleagues in the house to begin debating the things that the students are calling for. i just can't be sure of that. >> can i just point out a couple things, though? it is a month after the shooting. we're still talking about it. that's unusual. there will be millions of people participating in this march. that will drive the debate. that's important. but let's look at the accomplishments already. more than a dozen companies who have broken off the relationship with the gun lobby. companies who have made the right and courageous decision based on principles and morals that we are not going to continue to sell the weapons of war like the ones used to slaughter all the people in stone man douglas and is the weapon of choice in mass shootings. those steps forward are unlike what we have seen after other mass shootings.
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things are changing. i understand that here members of the senate and some of the house may refuse to debate the saveing tim iing time.ylight but for parents and kids worried whether they will come home at the end of the day after they dropped their kids off in the morning. let me just point out. everyone is focussed on the outcome of the election in pennsylvania. he and i may differ on some of the gun issues. i know we do. but he supports expanded background checks, as do most members of the nra. we can't allow the gun lobby to try to distract us. we can't allow members of congress to try to move on to talking about daylight saving time. we ought to be talking about keeping our kids safe. >> we appreciate you being on "new day". thank you. >> thank you, alisyn.
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weapons. >> reporter: with debates raging over guns, mass shootings and arming teachers. >> the teacher would have shot the hell outline of him before he knew what happened. >> reporter: with the president pushing an arm the teachers agenda, shocking reminders of the danger. in california, two schools on opposite sides of the country, guns accidently fired by members of staff. >> i looked down at my shirt like that and there was blood on my shirt. >> 17-year-old gonzales was hit in the neck by a fragment after his teacher and california police reserve officer dennis alexander accidentally fired a single shot into the ceiling during a gun safety demonstration. >> i couldn't believe it. i couldn't believe it. >> reporter: gonzales's father, who was warming to the idea of
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armed staff now has second thoughts. >> this was an incident with a trained professional. if given to everybody, this could happen again and again. >> reporter: it did happen again. this time a middle school in alexandria, virginia. a school resource officer and five-year veteran of the alexandria police department accidentally fired off a single round. it went through a wall injuring no one but has questions questioning the wisdom of arming teachers and staff in schools. >> he we have a highly trained five-year veteran of the police force here to protect our students and somehow is, we don't know how, his service weapon was discharged. >> reporter: the teacher in california is on leave from the school and the police department. the virginia resource officer is also on leave. both are under investigation. miguel marquess, cnn, los angeles. >> okay. so those fascinating stories,
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that is what credit you eubgs of arming teachers fear was going to happen or worse. but when i was talking to kids in parkland is in terms of all of these plans, ideas, what are the data points. does arming teachers or not? if it works, we did it. if not, we don't. here are two incidents where it went wrong. >> the unknown works both ways. they will say we haven't tried it before. how do we know if they make a harder target. mass shootings don't just happen in schools. two, there is a practical problem of applying this. they are losing sports teams because they can't get insurance. but you think carriers are going to insure people who are armed in schools around children? think about the practicality as well. >> meanwhile, it is time for cnn "money" now. after 70 years, toys "r" us is going out of business closing all of its u.s. stores. end of an era.
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now to a cnn exclusive. this is some kind of look inside the "u.s.s. hartford," a nuclear-powered submarine challenging russia in the arctic. cnn's jim sciutto got extraordinary access with the navy under the ice to deal with potential threats. i can't believe you fit in that tling? >> i was there on my birthday, if you can believe it. i had a ball. listen, why the arctic? why do we care?
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the ice is shrinking. what does that do? opens up oils, shipping lanes, but also new ways to project military power. who is our neighbor in the arctic? russia, 50 miles away from russia in the arctic. it's why the u.s. is making a clear signal to russia that they can operate anywhere in the world here and with their most advanced submarines and weapons. >> reporter: more than 100 miles north of the northest-most tip of alaska, we set down on a runway carved into the arctic ice. our objective? u.s. navy submarine exercises. cnn was granted exclusive access. >> it doesn't look like it, but it's moving all the time. this is a giant kaleidoscope of joint pieces of ice. >> reporter: this is the harshest sea environment in the
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world and a new front in the expanding global competition between the u.s. and russia. these 5.5 million square miles are under intense battle for dominance as the ice shrinks and opens new oil exploration, shipping lanes and crucially new paths to wage war. >> do you have a sense of greater competition up here for capability in this space? >> we are well aware that we are in a great power competition environment, and the arctic is one piece of that. >> reporter: we went under the ice on the "u.s.s. hartford," one of many u.s. saab marines taking part in a competition raging sometimes miles below the surface. the hartford, a los angeles class nuclear attack saab marine readies to fire.
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>> show, two, one. >> reporter: this an instant, a two-ton 20-foot-long torpedo speeds toward the target. target acquired and destroyed. these are just exercises. the hartford training for its primary mission, hunting and destroying enemy ships and submarines. >> why is it more important now to demonstrate that capability? >> this is our exclusive economic zone and our submarine force is capable of operating here just as we operate along our east coast and throughout the world. it shows we are capable of doing it and willing to come up here. >> reporter: operating under the arctic presents unique challenges with no access to gps navigation, limited communications and dangers from below and above.
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ice keels as long as 150 feet extend down from the ice sheet. america's biggest challenge, however, comes from russia. the russian military has assembled an arc of steel along its arctic coast, comprising dozens of military bases, ports and airfields, and it is building and deploying faster, quieter and more capable subs of its zone. >> have you had specific encounters, if not in the arctic, than elsewhere with russian submarines or chinese? >> again, we'd never try to speak to those specific operations for the clear intelligence value that that would be to the adversary. fundamentally we are watching and we are engaged and i think our adversaries recognize that. >> reporter: theis year new urgency, a british submarine joined for the first time in a
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decade. u.s. submarine forces are refocusing on a mission dated back to the cold war, deploying and demonstrating deadly fire power on top of the world. but everything is harder here. surfacing through the ice requires enormous power and skill. >> impact. >> one 1,000, two 1,000. >> reporter: we were on board as the submarine ascended with the full force of its 6 tons. >> we've just broken through two feet of arctic ice. the north pole is this way, russia this way, alaska this way. a mission like this is all about sending a message that the u.s. navy can operate or wage war if necessary in the harsh environment in the world. a harrowing message these nuclear submarines are sending to moscow and the world. >> wow. what conditions, what access.
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high school factor and high information factor. so you're doing this just at this point in relations where the idea of how russia may be a threat to the united states is in full peak. how did that feed into those types of operations? >> they're talking about it everywhere, not just in the arctic. let's connect all these dots. russia is more active with submarines up there. those submarines are popping up off the coast of florida. they have invaded crimea and the ukraine. they've interfered in the u.s. election. now it's believed they murdered a former russian spy on the streets of the uk very aggressively. they've even done that before. connecting all these things makes u.s. military planners -- i don't want to say nervous but with a great sense of urgency that it's a real competition with real threats that the u.s. has to respond to in each of those places. it's a serious thing and it's very much at the top of their minds right now.
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>> jim, that was really cool. i'm curious. who did you piss off in management? >> i begged to go on this trip. chris has known me a long time. he knows i'm just that crazy. >> i'm surprised he wore the mask. he never takes an opportunity not to show his face. >> jim, great reporting. thank you very much very much. we're following a lot of news. let's get to it. >> we went to college together. >> i know that. now our closest allies will not know whether the president is speaking from facts. >> we're looking for solutions and pacts forward. >> why did they ban together to screw the united states on trade? >> these documents suggest that the trump organization has been intimately involved in the effort to keep stormy daniels quiet. >> we're talking about a president engaged in immoral and illegal behavior. >> is anyone surprised that he wasn't mother teresa.
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