75-60. fsu will face michigan tomorrow. duke, syracuse 9:40. devil in a blue dress right here, friends. >> there you go. i'm christine romans. >> i'm dave briggs. "new day" starts right now. have a great weekend, everybody. >> this is real. it's happening. mcmaster is leaving. >> i didn't expect that this afternoon. >> the president deserves to have a staff that he gets along with. >> the lead lawyer stepping down. >> an attorney with any professionalism would be loathe to join his punching bag. >> i think president trump is going to war. >> after we had the incident, he tried to pay me.

it really hurt me. but i went back. >> this does not hurt the president one shred. >> she was totally credible. >> i want to share my story. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> all right. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is your "new day". it is friday, march 23rd, 6:00 here in new york. alisyn is still out on assignment. erica hill joining us. what a week. >> it's been rather eventful. >> you thought you would be here a couple of days. it's like you can never leave. >> there is always something going on. >> president trump shaking up his administration again naming his third national security sreu adviser in just four months. after all the promises and protests just last week that it wasn't going to happen. you remember that? the media is making it up. fake news. guess what, h.r. mcmaster is out and former u.s. ambassador john

bolton is in, which could mean broughtic changes for how the white house deals with iran, north korea. this comes as president trump insists he still wants to talk to bob mueller's investigators. >> former "playboy" playmate karen mcdougal breaking her silence about her alleged affair with donald trump saying they were intimate dozens of times and mr. trump tried to pay her. will president trump remain silent as more women tell their stories. >> the senate passing a $1.3 trillion spending bill overnight funding the federal government through september and averting a showdown. the late night vote filled with plenty of drama. abby, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, erica. another day, another shakeup here at this white house with president trump making some big

changes to his national security team and his legal team ahead of negotiations with north korea and a possible interview with special counsel robert mueller. president trump replacing national security adviser h.r. mcmaster with foreign policy hawk and former u.n. ambassador john bolton. taking both by surprise. >> i didn't really expect that announcement. i'm still sort of getting used to it. sources say mr. trump accelerated the announcement in part because of an internal leak that he ignored guidance not to congratulation russian president vladimir putin about his election. but an official says they have been discussing the move for weeks. mr. trump calling reports of a shakeup fake. >> there will always be change, but very little. it was a very false story. incident was a very exaggerated and false story. >> reporter: bolton will be the president's third national

security adviser in just over a year. he was an outspoken advocate of the iraq war and has called for military action against iran and north korea. a source familiar with their negotiations tells cnn bolton promised the president he wouldn't start any wars if he was appointed. >> i've never been is shy about what my views are. but frankly what i have said in private now is behind me. the important thing is what the president says and what advice i give him. >> reporter: bolton, a frequent guest on fox news, has a long history of hardline views. >> there is no united nations. >> our biggest national security crisis is barack obama. >> reporter: the west wing shakeup comes as the lead personal lawyer, john dowd, resigns over disagreements with mr. trump over how to respond to

special counsel robert mueller's probe. dowd urged the president to cooperate with mueller and resist attacking him publicly, advice mr. trump has repeatedly ignored. sources say dowd was also blind-sided by the hiring of veteran washington attorney and tv pun it did joseph i ddigenov. >> john dowd is a good man. i think that's why essentially more aggressive attorneys got brought in that have now -- i think president trump is going to war. >> reporter: the president telling reporters he is still willing to speak with mueller. as dowd departs the legal team, at least four other lawyers have been approached by the white house to represent trump and have turned him down. with mcmaster on his way out, brookings institution study found departures in the trump

administration neared 50% since he was elected, which is extremely high in recent history. and among the departures have been very senior officials, hope hicks, rex tillerson secretary of state, gary cohen, national economic adviser and many others. the president this morning will meet with his national security team before he leaves for mar-a-lago over the weekend. chris and erica. thank you very much. let's bring in cnn analyst jeffrey toobin and editor at large chris cillizza. i would be remiss if we did not give people in context what this means with h.r. mcmaster. you had the white house. you had sarah sanders. you had the president and all the surrogates, saying you are fake news, you media. all you want to do is make drama, make stuff up. they love each other. they have a great thing. here is sarah sanders on sunday. just spoke to poet us and general h.r. mcmaster.

contrary to reports they have a good working relationship and there are no changes at the nsc. this was never true. you understand? it was never true. the reporting was always solid that he was on his way out. this was a lie. okay. it was a distraction and a lie. now let's talk about why it matters. so he's out. >> yeah. >> is again, not news. there has been trouble. he hasn't liked how his advice is taken. trump hasn't liked how he speaks to him. this was going to happen. but it was denied deceptively. now here we are and the man who is replacing him is going to cause controversy. >> first on your first point, which is their lying. >> am i wrong? >> no. you're 100% right. >> which is rare, by the way. >> and i don't like agreeing with you. but you're right on this one. and i'll add to it that they did the same thing with the legal team. "new york times" wrote a story

that says trump is likely to make a move with his legal team. he tweets out fake "new york times". i love all my lawyers. now you have one brought in and one leaving. that's point one. point two to why it matters. it matters because from gary cohn you have seen an overhaul of the leader of your domestic economic policy, rex tillerson is removed. leader of your diplomacy/foreign policy and h.r. mcmaster, leader of your national security policy. those are three big pieces. and i would remind people this is not the second term. this is 14 months into the first term. >> barely the second year. >> but all the changes go in the same direction. they are all more hard lined, more confrontational, more trump-like than the earlier

incarnations in all the areas that chris was talking about. you know, he is less likely to talk to mueller. he is more likely to fire mueller. he is less likely to keep the iran deal intact. he is less likely to have a, you know, productive relationship with north korea. these names come and go. but i think the substance is what's important here. and they all suggest a more hardline presence. >> just to remind people where john bolton stands on a number of issues, let's take a listen. >> there is no united nations. the secretary in new york has 38 stories. if you lost 10 stories today it wouldn't make a bit of difference. >> our biggest national security crisis is barack obama. and we have to know the facts here. it is not at all clear to me just viewing this from the outside that this hacking into

the dnc and the rnc computers was not a false flag operation. >> i think the only diplomatic option left is to end the regime in north korea by effectively having the south take it over. >> and let's remember as recently as, what, three weeks ago he wrote a piece the legal case for striking north korea first. >> a remarkable supposition from him on fox, which is, well, everything i said before is -- wouldn't that be a great life if everything you said publicly prior was irrelevant? i understand his point which is now i serve the president. but the reason the president is drawn to you is a set of views, particularly voiced on television, that he has consumed over time. we know this is a president with the most broad outlines of policy knowledge. and not a ton of -- his policy

knowledge is sort of feel. it's not policy-oriented. he is looking for his advisers in a way to inform him on policy, policy that he wants. what bolton has said in the past you can't just say none of that is important anymore. that's not how life works. >> remember, too, that during the campaign one of trump's ways he distinguished himself from the republican field was i oppose the iraq war. the iraq war was a disaster. john bolton was perhaps the leading cheerleader for the iraq war. has trump changed? has bolton changed? that's a really important and unresolved issue. >> we have a number of concerns. one is i will bring in only the best. it's very hard to make the case that's what john bolton is for this tuck position. h.r. mcmaster, you had an objective case where he is qualified, has a pedigree and those in the community respected him that way. we have yet to hear that certification from john bolton. also, the lure of television and

how the president hears you, especially on fox news, is so compelling that he is willing to overlook things that disgust him. he has said so many times that i don't believe the intelligence community about things. that was no more true for him anywhere than with weapons of mass destruction in iraq and yellow cake. he would talk about it all the time before he was president of the united states. bolton was all over that situation. so you are for war that you thought he was against. bolt ton was stupid for being for it. you were part of this trumped up untell about weapons of mass destruction and yellow cake. but because you're good to tv and say things he likes, you'll be the national security. >> it is a weird combination of likes to see him on television, thinks he's a good spokesman for what donald trump likes, and

this -- what i think is like a vague sense of toughness is what i think donald trump. we need to be tough. john bolton knows we need to be tough. i think we overthink when we say jeff is right in bolton versus trump. it's all feel. he's tough. i like tough. he's good on tv. i like good on tv. donald trump is not going through a checklist of his sr r various past policy decisions. >> and john dowd, his leading attorney, as a matter of practice, did not appear on television. trump didn't like that and he brings in joe digenova. whether that's good enough for a criminal defense operation, we'll see. >> look, he knows that we're talking about bolton this morning, about what his

credentials are, so what does he tweet about? something else. here's what he just said. >> house intelligence committee votes to release final report findings. nobody one, no evidence of collusion. two, the post election response was in sufficient. three, clapper provided inconsistent testimony on media contacts. >> i love the attacking on obama administration for not responding forcefully enough to something he said didn't take place. >> i know it is twitter but it is purposeful oversimilar indication. the republicans on the house intelligence committee. we have heard from trey gowdy to say, yeah, what we released, i'm not totally, exactly -- he uses information selectively, as all politicians do. what he does is repeat over and

over and over and one more time over again things that he knows are simply false. lies. i don't like to use that word, but he repeats things purposely that are not accurate. i don't know what else you call that. >> intentional deception of a material fact is a pretty solid definition of a lie. and you're saying that here because he knows that these don't stand up to the points you just made. they are not going to stand up to strict scrutiny. this will be the man with the man voice in the president's ears about matters that will directly protect your families and your children. gentlemen, thank you for, once again, helping us understand the headlines. >> indeed. breaking news, a government shutdown averted after the u.s. senate passes a massive spending bill overnight. $1.3 million package keeps the government funded through september. it goes to president trump's

desk for his signature. the senate votes 65-32. passage was not without drama. republican senator from idaho holding up voting for several hours over a grudge with a deceased political rival. he demanded a perdition renaming a wilderness area after the former democratic governor be removed from the bill. up next a cnn exclusive. a former "playboy" model breaking her silence about her alleged affair with donald trump, which the white house denies. here's a taste. >> were you in love with him? >> i was, yeah. >> and do you think he was in love with you? >> he was, yeah. >> an explosive tell-all interview with karen mcdougal next. i'm not a bigwig.

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all right. we're now hearing from another woman who is making very specific allegations against the president of the united states. this time it is former "playboy" model karen mcdougal, speaking out exclusively to cnn talking about her alleged 10-month relationship with donald trump. why alleged? the white house said this didn't happen. all right. karen mcdougal said it happened before trump was president. it began a few months after melania trump gave birth.

>> so tell me about your first date. >> our first date i was told we were going to go to the beverly hills hotel for dinner. he told me keith his bodyguard was going to pick me up and then we were driving over to the beverly hills total. keith drove around to the back. he said we have to get out here because we don't want to walk through the hotel. at that minute i'm thinking to myself, are we going to a room? i thought we were having dinner at the beverly hills hotel. >> in the actual restaurant? >> right. we did have dinner at the beverly hills hotel. we talked for a couple hours. we were getting to know each other. we were talking about his birthday. as the night ended, we were intimate. >> what happened after you had been intimate? >> well, after we had been intimate, he tried to pay me. and i actually didn't know how

to take that. >> did he try to hand you money? >> he did. and i said -- i just had this look of, i don't know -- i don't even know how to describe it. the look on my face must have been so sad. i had never been offered money like that, number one. number two, i thought does he think i'm in this for money or why i'm here tonight. but i looked at him and i said that's not me. i'm not that kind of girl. and he said, oh, you're really special. and i was like thank you. so i left. i actually got into the car for keith to take me home. and i started crying. it really hurt me. but i went back. >> all these times you saw him, this was an ongoing sexual is relationship? >> absolutely. >> can you estimate how many times you actually saw him? >> again, when you're in a relationship, do you count how many times you have sex? no. however, i can tell you we saw each other a minimum five times a month up to bigger numbers per

month. >> over the course of how long? >> over the course of 2006 through i think i ended the relationship april 2007. so we were together 10 months before i chose to end it. so we saw each other quite frequently. >> so dozens of times you were together. >> many dozens of times. >> and you were intimate many dozens of times. >> uh-huh. >> how did you view it? how did you view the relationship? >> you know, going through it, when i look back where i was back then, i know it's wrong. i'm really sorry for that. i know the wrong thing to do. but back in those days -- sorry. >> it's okay. back in that day, i was a different girl. i had fun. i was in the "playboy" scene. i was just enjoying life as much as i could.

you know, when i got with him, you actually, you know, there was a real relationship there. there were real feelings between the two of us. >> you believe, though, he had real feelings for you? >> of course he did. i know he did. >> he would say that? >> he did. >> were you in love with him? >> i was, yeah. >> do you think he was in love with you? >> he was, yeah. >> did donald trump ever say to you that he loved you? >> all the time. he always told me he loved me. yeah. of course. >> did he have any nicknames for you? >> he would call me baby or beautiful karen. >> would you only see him just in los angeles? >> no, i wouldn't. i actually went to a golf tournament with him in lake tahoe. i went to his golf course in california. i went to his golf course home

in new jersey. i went to his home in new york. >> when you heard the stories of stormy daniels, who has come forward who said she was at the tahoe club as well and others who said they were there, you didn't know about that at the time? >> no, i did not know. >> what did you think when you heard that? >> my first thought was how could she have been with him when i was with him? the only time we weren't together on that particular trip is when i -- well, he was on the golf course golfing. i didn't go. clearly. but i went to every event, every after things, parties, daytime things. that's why i was there. now i can't understand. now, i do remember him saying there were a bunch of porn stars wanting pictures of me. that's funny. that's cute. i do remember him saying that. but i can't imagine when he

found the time except for maybe the day i left. so it's kind of like, wow, how did this happen. >> what was it like at trump tower? >> i didn't know i was going to trump tower. we went in the back. and i said, apart you afraid to bring me here? he said they won't ask you anything. >> did he reference melania at that point? >> we did. we passed a room. and he said this is melania's room. she likes to have her alone time to get away to read or something like that. i'm like, oh, okay. that's when i kind of thought maybe they're having issues. i didn't ask. it's not my business at that point. >> how do you feel being in his apartment? >> guilty. very guilty. >> it made his other life more real. >> i was just going to say it made it real to me. it made it more real. >> our legal team diggs in next.

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you think donald trump would have been aware of this deal? >> one of the big complaints with why i think my contract is illegal is because his attorney was talking to my attorney. >> you're saying donald trump's personal attorney michael cohen. >> correct. without me even knowing, without my knowledge. i would assume maybe -- you know, i know his attorney did. i can't say that he knew. >> former "playboy" model karen mcdougal claiming donald trump's personal lawyer was involved is. she is suing to be released with that agreement from ami, parent

company of the "national enquirer". >> all right. let's bring in chief cnn legal analyst jeffrey toobin and areva martin. jeffrey, help me understand why i should care. >> i think everybody can make up their own mind if they care about donald trump having an affair. but there was this concerted effort of an enormous amount of money, $150,000, to keep her silent during the campaign. that is a story of -- >> not my trump. not but cohen by any indication. so what would be the relevant legal consideration? >> see, that's what i find bizarre about this. i don't understand this lawsuit. >> that's the bizarre part for you? >> well, there are many. what can i tell you. you just asked about the legal case. she has this lawsuit to let her tell her story. she just told her story.

so what's this case about? i just don't get that at all. so i think, look, we can pretend there is a legal aspect to this. this is mostly a story about two adults who had an affair, and people can decide whether they care or not. >> there questions about why does she want to tell her story. >> and what was the thought of selling the story in your mind? >> to get my truth out there. i wasn't looking for money, clearly. but when he said it's worth many millions, i'm like, you know -- >> that was something that was hard to pass up? >> sure, of course. but if you fast forward, i ended up not wanting to do that deal. so we were going to go to abc and tell the story, just to he get the story out there. for nothing. there was no pay. >> that's been the central question too. why do you want to tell the story? what's the point here?

she said i want to control the narrative. now that i am being told i can't control it, that's why i want to talk. to jeffrey's point, areva, we have now heard the story. >> yeah, erica. it is a little convoluted. there was a lot of money. she was told she could make a lot of money telling the story. but as she is negotiating with ami she said she was glad they decided to bury the story because she didn't want to hurt him and she didn't want the story out there. she liked the idea that she would get to be promoted as a health and wellness or fitness model in their various media platforms in exchange for them not to tell the story. although it was awe very compelling narrative with lots of specifics, so no doubt in my mind that the affair occurred. still not really clear on what the legal issue here is. we should note ami says said you

have been free to tell your story since 2016. so they don't appear to be trying to prevent her from telling her story. so the lawsuit is mysterious. i'll leave it at that. >> certainly a very different dynamic than we see with stormy daniels where you have trump's personal attorney trying to enforce a bargain for exchange which is i give you this and you keep your mouth closed. we are not hearing from ami saying, hey, you had a deal and you're breaching that deal and everything you're saying right now is what it would be, which is in direct defiance to that agreement. >> and obviously a very different legal situation between karen mcdougal is that agreement is with ami, not donald trump. whereas the stormy daniels contract is allegedly with donald trump, although he didn't sign the agreement. and that's part of the controversy. >> although you did hear

mcdougall saying michael cohen was talking to my lawyer she is trying to imply that cohen may have somehow been part of this deal with ami which gets to the central intrigue, league or otherwise, which is did a friend of donald trump pay somebody money to shut somebody up and squash their story. >> i read a profile and asked and he said, yeah, we paid her because we wanted to help trump. >> he said we paid her because i friend donald trump. ory for my >> absolutely. >> areva, what might that mean? >> that is one of the arguments that karen is making, she wasn't aware of the back room dealings that were happening with regards to the contract that she signed. and she expressed anger even last night in the interview by

not knowing, she said, that michael cohen was talking with her lawyer. and part of her lawsuit is that she was fraudulently induced into signing this contract without having full knowledge of pe pecker's relationship with trump and his potential involvement in killing the story. she is not only suing ami. she is also saying her lawyer -- her former lawyer is at fault and should be held accountable for what she calls this fraudulent contract that she entered into with ami. >> there we go. we are leaving it for this hour. but we have more coming up. >> puzzled expressions. this is not easy to navigate in terms of its relevance to the american people. the white house doesn't help when they deny the affair. now you make it about a truth issue. who is telling the truth. so this is a little bit brought upon themselves. that's part of strategy.

what you deal with and what you don't deal with on a personal nature in politics. we will have more of that interview come up. and kellyane conway is come can coming on. she is spearheading the white house efforts to fight opioids in this country. we need to have a discussion about the urgency, about what they see as the remedy, and whether or not it will work. that's a conversation worth having. >> we look forward to that. and looking at the markets overnight, global pharbgtsz down sharply on fears that the tariffs could trigger a trade war. a live report from beijing next.

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global markets are down sharply. dow futures are pointing to a big drop at the open. we saw a massive down day yesterday because investors are afraid that these tariffs will be an escalating factor for a

potential trade war with china and that china will retaliate. matt rivers live in beijing with more. what do we know from there, matt? >> we know that the chinese have already said that they might put $3 billion worth of tariffs on american exports here to china. we know that there could be a 15% tariff on 120 different products like wine and food at 25% tariff on pork. those are the kind of tariffs that hurt american exporters. it hurts the american economy. here's the thing, chris. those potential tariffs are not in response to what we saw yesterday. they are in response to the aluminum and steel tariffs that the president talked about several weeks ago. those tariffs don't hurt the chinese economy that much. in terms of further retaliation we could be seeing even stronger tariffs down the road. we heard from the minister of foreign affairs with a strong statement saying american claims

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looks like what happens when the puppy gets the toilet paper. last night's game made it even worse, or better, depending how you look at it. prayers answered for loyola-chicago's sister jean. you like that one? when the puppy gets the toilet paper. >> i like that! i noticed at this game last night, the energy levels of the players, of the fans, and of sister jean. she was taking a lot of heat for her brackets. she picked her own loyola-chicago to lose. she told me yesterday she has a second cinderella dream bracket that has her team going to the top. the junior from jersey, money! the three-pointer. more clutch than my isuzu from the '90s. sister jean's original bracket now busted. she's not feeling blue about it. we caught up with the 98-year-old star after the game.

>> they said we broke your bracket, sister jean. i said that's fine with he me. let's keep going. >> how about kentucky. never lost a sweet 16 under john calipari. that changed thanks to kansas state. shocking big blue nation. k-state with 19 seconds remaining. and then a last-chance shot fell shy. no tie for kentucky. this is setting up a cinderella between loyola-chicago and k-state tomorrow in atlanta. can't wait. sister jean still has the glass slippers on. thank you for that. >> i love that sister jean. by the way, just awe point to button up the analogy with the puppy. it is national puppy day. so there's that. coy, thank you. >> he's as cute as a puppy. >> that, he is. thousands of students calling for titler gun control laws gathering in washington for tomorrow's "march for our lives"

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congress passing a massive $1.3 trillion spending bill that includes gun control measures which objectively would be called modest by those who are looking for reform. tomorrow thousands are expected at the "march for our lives" in washington. and there will be other echo demonstrations across the country falling for stricter gun control and changing the rules of access because of what just happened in the florida high school massacre and so many other times across this country. joining us now is democratic congressman ted deutch of florida. he will be marching with the students of manager ji stone man douglas high school. we know that will be a source of pride for you but also purpose. and the kids will be looking at you and saying, congressman, what did you get done for us. what are you going to tell them?

>> well, first, i'm going to tell them -- i'm going to remind them everything has happened so far has happened because of them. that's the important thing here. we passed a big spending bill that included, as you point out, very modest steps. lifting the ban on research into gun violence, providing grants to schools to help identify potential threats and greater school security and the fix nics bill. they are modest steps but modest steps that would not have been taken were it not for this movement that these students have started that we will see play out on the international stage tomorrow in marches in 800 cities in the united states and around the world. >> if we look at the politics more closely, if democrats wanted to put up a bill at any time to increase the access of guns in schools and training for teachers who want them, you would have passed that bill.

it is no coincidence that part of the stop act and fix nics are both things that the nra is in favor of. expanding the background checks is part of fix nics in all sales and transactions, that's something the nra does not want that the democrats want and you couldn't get it done. are you worried about the kids looking at you and say, ted, i love where your heart is but you can't get it done for me? >> they are exactly right to look at that and say this isn't enough. let me be clear about that, chris. i'm not saying, nor should anybody in washington believe that this is some great victory, that this is the response to what happened at marjory stoneman douglas in my community. they are modest steps. they were done without the nra trying to stick in teller provisions like they do. you're right. 90% supports universal background checks. there is no reason we shouldn't

do that. no reason we shouldn't ban bump stocks. ultimately, when you look at the weapons that are used in these mass shootings, they are semiautomatic assault style rifles, we need to ban those. no, this suspect the response. this isn't the end. when students come here and they march, they will send two messages. one, they expect a lot more to get done. and, two, if you're not prepared to work to get those done, if you're not on the side of these kids and communities and those who have suffered at the hands of the shooters and experienced these killings and gun violence all around the country, then you don't belong in your country. you can be with the student, for public safety, before the gun companies. they're going to make those options very, very clear for my colleagues. >> so what do we know? we know that we have heard that before. right? >> we have. >> we also know that it has been

a hollow threat. however, you do have an interesting demographic shift going on right now. you have the, i think, biggest portion of the generations coming up right now. burg than the baby boomers will be the millennials. they are really coming into their power band of voting age. we will show you the cover of "time" magazine, whose faces have become household faces. they are saying enough. they will be of voting age. many in their generation and extended generation are of voting age. with all due respect, lawmakers have awe tendency not to do things out of conscience. they do them out of consequence. when it comes to gun laws, the people who fight hardest are afraid of losing their seats because the nra will come and get you. and people who believe in second amendment rights vote on that

actively. you need to get people to do the same thing for your cause or you're never going to get it done. fair point? >> it's absolutely a fair point. it's not just me who needs to get this done. it's the kids who are going to get it done. you're right, the 18-year-olds who will be voting for the first time, they are making this their issue. but for the 17-year-olds, 16-year-olds and younger kids still who are an active part of this movement when can't vote yet, this will be theirs. their parents now understand that this is a central issue to them and to their families. what the kids are saying is they've had enough. they shouldn't be afraid to go to school. they shouldn't be afraid, wherever they are in america, that a shooter is going to company into their school. for kids all across the country who face gun violence on a regular basis, they shouldn't be afraid to walk down the streets. these kids are going to make a difference. and, yes, the nra likes to

always try to assert that they're going to stay here and they're going to stand up for this extremist view of the second amendment that will say there are going to be no restrictions, which is pals and they know it's false. but they keep pushing because they hope to shut the debate down. they can't do it now. look at citibank when they joined a whole host of companies who said we're going to make changes to respond to these kids, respond to this movement. that's what's happening. there are big changes outside of washington. they are fleeing the nra. they are changing their gun policies. now that has to be felt here. and after this march, when hundreds of thousands of kids show up, students and parents from all around the country and marching in 800 cities, they will start to feel the pressure in this chamber, and that is going on to continue into november. >> yeah. i'm just being a skeptic because we know the process. when they start making changes to push for these