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mcmaster out. the security adviser after 18 months wanted to bomb north korea. now he says forget about that. two women who said they were paid to keep silent about affairs speak out in interviews. >> i know it was the wrong thing to do. when i got with him, actually there was a real relationship there, there were real feelings between the two of us. not just myself, not just him, there was a real relationship there, and i kind of out of sight, out of mind with everything else. deep inside, i did have a lot of guilt but i still continued. >> back to that story in a little bit. we begin with west wing chaos beginning with twitter, of course. a president describing those who work for him as angry, steaming, fuming, lashing out. it is the republican-led congress at the source of this morning's surprise tweet
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tantrum. the president is willing to veto the big spending bill that passed overnight because he's mad he's getting so little of what he wants, especially on immigration. his frustration more than understandable. the president is getting very little of what he wants by a congress controlled by his own party. the veto threat not so understandable, unless maybe you're the parent of a volatile toddler. all the compromises were explained to the president the other day and he promised to eat his peas. >> let's cut right to the chase. is the president going to sign the bill? the answer is yes. why? because it funds his priorities. we've talked for the last, i don't know, three, four, five, six months about trying to get the president's priorities funding, and this omnibus bill does that. >> that's the president's budget director in the white house briefing room. the logo behind him. so given that, a veto threat just hours before a government runs out of money is remarkable. even more remarkable, tracking senior aides to the president this morning, senior aides to
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the president of the united states telling reporters and members of congress to pay no attention to the president's veto threat, just a tran itantr means nothing, as if they were describing a child. is the president going to pick up his pen? and if he picks up a pen, a blue pen or a red pen? >> great question, john. i was in the briefing room when mick mulvaney said don't worry, he's going to sign it. 24 hours after that, i do expect the president to sign that bill. one senior adviser told me this is the president venting. he's been watching news coverage of this, reading news coverage and seeing that his priorities are not being funded as much as he would want here. so he's letting off some steam, if you will. also trying to blame capitol hill and congress. of course, they have a much lower approval rating than he does, so trying to shift some blame to them. by the end of the day here, john, no one expects the president to actually veto.
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if he would, that would set off a cascade series of events here. the senate are not in washington. the members are back home or elsewhere. there was one question i was talking to a senior republican about on capitol hill. i said, why hasn't the president been focused on the one end? he's been hiring staffers and not been engaged in this process. i wouldn't be surprised if he vetoed this bill, john. >> make no bets but keep an eye. see which pen gets picked up later today. so what will make the president go to a yes from hopping mad? >> he vowed to build a wall. it's not complicated. now we have the biggest spending bill in history and it sets aside $640 million to supposedly
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fund wall construction for one year? my friends, i hate to say this, but as i see it right now tonight the wall is never going to happen. put the big bienvinidos welcome mat at the front door, because it doesn't matter. >> cnn's manu raj u, rachel bay of positiliticpolitico. help me? after the government runs out of money, after you promised to sign it, and members based on that congress have left town. if you were going to do something, yesterday or the day before is when you should have raised your objections and stopped the train. that's number one, the governing issue. and how do we, 14 months in, process a senior age president
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of the united states telling leadership in congress, pay no attention to the president. he's a child venting with a temper tantrum. he'll get over it. >> it was amazing what was coming out of the white house this morning. air aides are saying he just needs to get it out of his system. we're talking about funding the federal government. there was ample opportunity to get it out of his system yesterday, so if the president were perhaps to be watching cable news right now, which i think is probably a decent possibility, and hearing that his aides are saying, ignore him, don't pay attention to him and then as a result follows through on the veto, there's nothing lawmakers can do right now. they'll have to come back and the government will shut down. it's as if he, more than a year into office, doesn't grasp the magnitude of the decisions he makes. >> the republicans yesterday were trying to make a show that the president did win on border security. you heard paul ryan, the house speaker, come out and say yesterday that they gave money,
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a year's worth of of fundifundix months' time. it met the president's request for the border wall. the president was behind this. he talked to the president. the president obviously does not feel that way, so that undercuts that message, number one. and number two, how many times has a president completely contradicted, in fact humiliated, a number of senior advisers on a number of issues? he says he's considering a veto. they say he's not going to fire -- h.r. mcmaster isn't going to leave. he leaves. they say rex tillerson won't leave. he leaves. they say john dowd broke that statement on his own accord. it turns out the president was behind that. so how many times can white house officials go on to say something undercut by the president that undercuts their credibility. >> it's sad to say, but you should pay no attention, you at
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home, to people who get paid to work for the president. they will go out and say what they think the president believes at the moment. that's budget director mick mulvaney saying the president will sign this. >> who has a very trusted relationship with the president. he's a trusted adviser. >> mick mulvaney used to be a balanced budget guy. president obama would have died for a spending plan like this and he couldn't get one out of the republican congress. please. >> this uncertainty, though, even though lawmakers are hearing from the white house that they don't need to panic, that this is trump just venting and he's eventually going to sign this document, they don't know that for sure. i was talking to a senior republican saying, we hear it's all going to be okay, but how do we know? as you mentioned, lawmakers have left town, most of them are going abroad because the office is adjourned until mid-april.
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if he decides to go through with this right now, it's going to be total chaos to try to get lawmakers back here. >> he's bringing courage, and they won't pay for any spending bill. the republicans have the majority but the republicans will go for just about any spending bill. it was tweeted this morning, the freedom caucus would be good for you this morning, mr. president. now conservative forces seeing an opening, seeing the president threatening to veto this are saying, go for it. >> when you hear aides on background saying just let him get it out of his system, they're not talking to reporters, they're not talking to the american public, they're not talking to members of congress, they're talking to the president because they're really hoping he is just trying to get it out of his system and they're trying to create a path for him to go ahead and sign this thing.
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they understand what it would mean if he backs down and loses. this is important about the staff. it's a real problem in terms of the confidence to be able to tie high-level word for things. mick mulvaney is someone who has been talked about as a potential future chief of staff. how much control would mick mulvaney have as a future chief of staff. if you're a press secretary for the white house, you need to be able to go out and conduct these briefings and have it mean something, and that puts sarah sanders in a difficult position. as we all know, there is a vacuum of leadership in the director's position. >> what the president says to people, even his trusted senior aides, is minutes. last night he said this is more spending than obama ever got out
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of the republican congress, so why is this happening with the republican senate? listen to chuck schumer, the senate's top democrat. he thinks this is a great deal. >> we democrats are really happy with what we were able to accomplish on a number of priorities the democrats have fought for all along. at the end of the day, as the minority party, we feel good about being able to succeed in so many ways. we don't have the house, we don't have the senate, we don't have the presidency, but we produced a darn good bill for the priorities that we have believed in. >> a little bit of spin there, but democrats didn't get the daca deal they wanted. they think they can deal with that in the election year, might actually help them politically. part of it is the senate is evenly divided. you do have to make some compromise. the president can't get everything he wants, but he gets $600 million for the beginning of some border fence
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construction? he wanted 25 billion. he wanted infrastructure spending, he got pennies on the dollar. this could be the last big bill, especially if democrats take back the house. again, i understand his frustration. the question is why didn't he wait until the morning of the bill to suddenly find out the details? >> in this bill there are a number of things that are actually helpful to republican and democratic members up for reelection in very tight races. one reason why there was significant support last night for a bill that was unveiled -- a 2200-page bill that was unveiled thursday night that went to kcongress on friday tha nobody read was because these provisions were up for reelection and the lawmakers got behind it. the president is not getting his central priority, the wall fully funded. >> when your base turnout is the number one critical thing to buy
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the republican party, again, i get the president's frustration. he had weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks to deal with it and he came in at the last minute aftbefore signing off on deal -- ben sasse, critic of the president, said every republican would vote against this disgusting bill if a democrat were present. this spending kegger is a wildly irresponsible use of the taxpayers' money and the president should not sign it. but if the idea is to turn out conservatives, how do you make a case to a conservative voter? look, we got the white house. we turned out a senate bill and we gave you a bill obama would love? >> that's why you see the freedom caucus trying to seize this opening right now. the reality is it's not just on spending, it's across the board on policy. the president is not an active player on a day-to-day basis. this could perhaps be turned in another direction if we were
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discussing this with the president two weeks ago, but he was off in pennsylvania having a rally where he was talking about other things, or firing h.r. mcmaster, but he was not focused on this spending bill. >> he could have gotten way more money on the wall. democrats over the weekend floated the idea, 25 billion for your wall as long as you do something which you said you were going to do to begin with, which was find a pathway for these 8 million undocumented democrats who live here. it was there within his grasp, and he turned it down. >> now instead he's angry about compromises that he signed off on that give him a lot less. keep your eye on it today, that's all we can say. will he sign it? it's an open question. a former playboy model said he tried to pay her for sex. then he later said he loved her.
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a former playboy playmate is apologizing to melania trump saying donald trump told her he loved her. that interview will air here and on sunday stormy daniels will air her interview. if a dpicture is worth a thousad words, how many words is this worth? daniels was paid by her personal lawyer. mcdougal by someone trusted. >> do you think he was in love with you? >> he was, yeah.
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>> did donald trump tell you he loved you? >> all the time. he always told me he loved me. of course. >> did he have any nicknames for you? >> he would call me baby, or he would call me beautiful karen. >> to what end, what effect, is this going to have? if you watched the interview last night, the president said on the record that it never happened. she sounded very credible, she's very calm, very composed. she tells her story. we'll see stormy daniels on "60 minutes" saturday night. there was a footnote that the president himself lashes out at people who criticize him or challenges him has been silent on twitter. >> that's what's incredibly noteworthy about this even when you have women coming through on the campaign with allegations, the president has been threatening lawsuits. just the barest of statements
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from the podium about these incidences, which i think probably lends to -- not the credibility of the actual allegations, it lends credibility to the notion that this is causing some tension inside the white house. this is not just a short-term distraction. what we've seen is that these stories, in part through the legal strategies these women have been employing, have some staying power. and these women are not holding to these ndas which trump has used to great effect in various ways throughout his career. they're coming forward and telling their stories and that's putting the president in a situation that he doesn't find himself in both in his previous life and in his white house. >> and using the tactics similar to what he has used blow through what would normally be barriers and rules, and they say, you know what, i'm going to tell my story, and let's see if he has the guts to respond. >> the approach early in this was to say, look, these stories
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have aired early in the campaign, and this is just rehashing old news. the approach to this has changed, it seems to me, in recent weeks. when you have these two women at the same time out there, even though they have different personalities, different approaches, one is still kind of in business and using this for publicity a little more than the other. even so to have both of them out there at the same time is kind of a ping-pong effect that builds their credibility and puts the president in a more difficult position. you can't talk about it, but by not talking about it, it creates a vacuum where this feeds. coming at the same time that the mueller investigation is going forward, it suggests the possibility that what would be kind of a side show or a personal crisis could bleed into more sensitive territory. >> especially if the president is deposed in any of these cases or if there's money involved with the special counsel. stormy daniels' attorney is very
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aggressive, posting a tweet of that dvd and suggesting that she has texts or photos or other evidence. karen mcdougal a very different approach with anderson cooper. how about you, do you have evidence? >> do you have any text messages, photos, videos, anything that would dispute the statement that this never happened? >> let me just say this. if you're in a loving relationship, do you try and collect evidence? >> that's not what you were thinking about. >> no. not at all. but when you care about somebody, you don't try and set is them up in any way, shape or form. >> it's just an odd thing in the sense that this could potentially be very damaging to the president, and yet she actually speaks kindly of him and says he treated her kindly. >> but she kept a journal. >> this is a different situation
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than stormy daniels for certain. the legal issue is going to be not just that this is the third suit as well from the former "apprentice" contestant who said she was harassed by the president, and the other thing is just the payments, too. were any of these payments in-kind contributions in violation of campaign finance laws? that's something that's a real concern for the president. it's not just having an extramarital affair and being unfaithful to your wife, it's a legal issue. that has to be one reason why there is a tension that you have seen, and probably why also the president may be spouting off in different ways and doing different things, because this is getting under his skin. >> and that legal issue, that's where a lot of dems on the hill think perhaps they can find a way to use this against him and hurt republicans, right? there is a debate about how much they want to talk about this. republicans totally want to bury
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this. i was talking to a senior republican on the committee and said, would you guys want to look at this angle? they said, heck, no. who is going to investigate this? >> an interesting point. i suspect you will see as part of the chaos the democrats want to see their faces. the adviser trump says he loves watching on tv. how do you chase what you love
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key presidential decision on the iran nuclear deal and ahead of summit-level talks with north korea's kim jong-un. those are supposed to be in the next month or two. if bolton won't sway, do we expect the president's hard line instincts to attack even further right? >> there is an all-purpose joke here. question, how do you know if the north korea regime is lying? answer, their lips are moving. what i would recommend to him if i were there would be to get out of the deal completely, to draw in the united states to bring back all the sanctions, russia, syria, iran, north korea. these are regimes that make agreements and lie about them. >> and he will now become the white house national security advis adviser. mike pompeo will replace rex tillerson at the state department. two more people leaving, two more bullish, hawkish people
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moving in. do we expect the iran nuclear deal ripped up? >> that may be where the president is headed and if you look at the president's personal decisions on this, it's basically been the people around him that have kept him from ripping up this deal. now with pompeo and bolton at the table instead of tillerson and mcmaster, i think the challenge for those left in the administration to hold him back, for european allies to hold him back just got incredibly harder. >> let's be more specific. does that mean secretary jim mattis? it was mattis, mcmaster and tillerson and they called themselves the adults. >> you see mattis as the last line of defense here. you see him as one person who still has respect from the
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president and still has his ear and credibility in the administration who can push the argument that we should stay in the iran deal and take a range of other foreign policy issues. >> there are people across seas i would take a look for, and that's french president macron who will be here and is a very influential voice on president trump. so is the australian leader. so is the saudi prince, rising power in saudi, and so are the israelis to some extent. i think you'll see an increase in the external pressures on the president with the understanding that inside the equation just changed quite a bit. but even months ago, the president's foreign policy and national security advisers were saying privately, as well as publicly, that they thought it didn't necessarily matter that much what the arguments were on the inside. >> we know he singled out john
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bolton. he was in the bush administration and was actually in favor of the iraq war which donald trump repeatedly criticized. "wall street journal," the legal case for striking north korea first. bomb iran. john bolton now saying, hey, look. i'm a fox news commentator, i'm someone running down my op-ed pieces now. don't hold me to it. that was part of my past. >> frankly, what i said in private now is behind me, at least effective april 9. the important thing is what the president says and what advice i give him. >> it's true, john bolton didn't get his way in the bush administration. he got to air his views. sometimes he won, often he lost. do we overplay the idea he's on the record with this stuff, or is it important that the president has given indications that's where he'd like to be and he's been restrained.
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>> bolton will be right there in the white house advising him as he moves forward on all these huge international things coming down the pipeline. i think the north korea issue is particularly interesting because trump obviously took a meeting with the leaders of north korea because he wanted to be seen as the guy who can make a deal that no other president can make. clearly bolton is bullish when it comes to north korea. is he going to be telling the president, you have to be careful on this, or will he try to walk him back? >> or will he tell kim jong-un, you better cut a deal with me or this guy will deal with you. >> some of the foreign leaders, he gets along well with them. probably a different approach than john bolton would take. but we know this president goes by his own thoughts and instincts. >> to that point, i want to bring you some breaking news. the president just tweeted news conference at the white house
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concerning the spending bill at 1:00 p.m. that's the president who this morning threatened to veto the omnibus spending bill. the tweet doesn't say what he's going to do. >> this will be his first news conference -- >> he often uses these conferences but sometimes he uses them to mean statements to the press. if the president is watching, we would love an actual news conference with questions. he hasn't had a full one since february of last year. >> at 1:00 there is a meeting before the government runs out of money. when we come back, we'll try to find out exactly what the president is thinking. plus, when they passed this spending bill last night, it carried over into the early morning hours. senator bob corker calling things juvenile, asking key questions of the summit's leader. i'll be right back. tion, amd, i wanted to fight back.
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breaking news to bring you this hour. the president of the united states scheduling what he calls a news conference at 1:00 p.m. the president promising to make a statement at 1:00. the subject matter, the omnibus spending bill, the spending bill that passed overnight to keep the government running. it passed early this morning. the president had signed off on the deal in the days leading up to the passage, but this morning the president tweeted he might veto that bill because it does not meet his spending priorities, particularly border wall funding and immigration.
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senator bob corker is encouraging him to not sign off on it. he says, please do, mr. president. i am just down the street and will bring you a pen. the spending levels without any offsets are grotesque, throwing all of our children under the bus. totally irresponsible. >> we're trying now to find out from sources will he sign the bill? maybe ask congress to do some other things when they come back, or will he do what will cause high drama? veto the bill, democrats would have to come back and pass some kind of continuing resolution, again, in the eyes of washington. >> he put it correctly when he
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says he doesn't know how to mabmake predictions anymore, but there is a serious matter on the table. congress has left. they left him with a bill they not only expected him to sign, his white house promised he would sign. >> the speaker of the house rushed down to the white house the other day. the majority leader joined in by conference call on speakerphone because they were told the president is getting skittish about this. the president, i understand his frustration. he wanted $25 billion for a wall. he's getting 640 million and some of it is for fencing probably won't go for a wall, anyway, and he wanted 25 billion. it's very modest, not what the president wanted. i get his frustration but he promised to sign the bill, and based on that promise, the republicans passed it and many have left town. >> the white house was involved in these negotiations. it's not like -- >> still, people were involved
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heavily in his negotiations for several weeks. this shouldn't have been a surprise for the president. if it was a surprise, that's a problem for the white house in not fully informing the president of the united states exactly what's in this bill. if he wanted to take a bigger role personally -- >> can i flip that just a little bit, though? he's the ceo. if they're not fully informing him, then what kind of process is he running -- make sure i got this, guys. lay it all out, guys. if i'm going to sign up for something i don't like. i agree 100%. but there's a flip side, too. if he's the boss, what kind of operation is he running if he says he will sign it and then pulls the rug out from under them. >> speaker ryan went to the white house, he explained to him what was in the bill. he says, you got to sign this otherwise there is really going to hurt the military. it sounds like defense was trying to make this case to the president saying if we have a shutdown, the military will be the most hurt.
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the military is one of the key priorities, you can't let this happen. it sounds like a couple hours ago, mattis was at the white house trying to convince the president of this exact thing. they were able to convince him on wednesday to sort of back off. they left with a truce, and we'll find out this morning if he vetoes or not. >> the game is supposed to be over. the clock ran out, they sent it to the president. everything about donald trump is disruptive, everything about his governing is different. this is a classic example of all of them to keep the government up and running. the white house says the president's tweet is a little ambiguous. he'll have a meeting at 1:00 about the spending bill. the number one issue for the american people watching at home, government benefit checks. if you work in the government agencies, if you have any relationship with the government, which is just about everybody, will the government stay up and running?
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the president of the united states, states, will he take questions? he hasn't had a full news conference since when? >> february 2017. >> it is march of 2018. stormy daniels interview coming up on "60 minutes" sunday night about the firing, dismissal, agreement to leave, probably the right language, the mutual agreement for john dowd to leave his legal team. his fight over the weekend to start attacking robert mueller by name. i'll stop there. >> you just said something about a news conference at 1:00. if he wants the meeting to be about daca and the spending bill, i can't imagine we'll have an hour-long news conference.
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however, i think you can argue the case that having a free-flowing news conference takes steam off things so it doesn't build up. i don't know if today is the time to start. >> the president shouldn't be doing this, because as we've seen, his people cannot speak for him. he constantly changes his position and his mind, he undercuts them at every turn. so mhow, as a messenger, can yo speak for the president of the united states when everything they say turns out to be something different? he should go out and talk to people. >> when you're talking about the congressional leadership, they are republicans. this spending path takes all of them through the primary season and up very close to the midterm so that congress can focus -- so the republicans in congress can
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focus on holding their majority. if you blow up the spending plan and you put the government in a shutdown mode, who are you hurting? are you hurting the democrats? are the democrats going to ka p -- c api tulate and say, never mind, here's a billion dollars for your wall. the president is seeing what he can come back with, but if he's wrong, if chuck and nancy this time don't blink, where does it leave his party? >> it's a great question. we're going to sneak in a quick break. 12 minutes from now the president is supposed to tell us what he's going to do about the spending bill. will he sign it? or will he veto it, angry because he's not getting his top priorities. see the white house briefing there, reporters are getting ready as well. we'll be back in just a minute.
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. the breaking news, the president of the united states about to announce in the white house briefing room whether he will sign the big government spending plan or whether, as he indicated on twitter, he will veto it. jeff zeleny has some reporting. jeff, red pen, blue pen? >> we do believe a blue pen. i'm told by two administration officials the president does plan to sign this spending bill in the diplomatic reception room in the white house, the same place the president was yesterday making the announcements on china. but this spending bill, john, specifically is coming only hours after he was venting about this this morning. in the words of the administration officials at the white house saying he was letting off steam that his border wall isn't entirely funded. but i am told he will sign the spending bill shortly after 1:00
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this afternoon. we've seen this pattern before. the president likes to create drama around these things, and that certainly is what is happening here. many republicans on capitol hill were unsure what he was going to do, but i'm told by two administration officials the diplomatic reception room being set up right now for a presidential signing, not a veto. john? >> great reporting, jeff zeleny at the white house. appreciate it. get back to work. we know you have a busy hour ahead as we wait. to jeff's point, the caucus says veto it, mr. president, conservatives saying this is a horrible bill, more spending than president obama ever got out of the republican house. veto it, mr. president. the president builds up hope among his own base that he's going to do something and now he's going to come in and sign it. he's going to propose tariffs on everybody. he angers the world and then creates all these exceptions. what is it? >> he's going to anger both
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sides, that's the problem. he could have owned it, taken the message to the republicans yesterday. they have some victories, it's not a perfect bill, but instead now he's not happy with it. why are you signing a bill you're not happy with? but the bottom line is, if there is a shutdown, there really is no way out of a shutdown right now and inevitably he would be blamed for the shutdown and have more trouble reopening the government. >> i suppose a lot of republicans would be mad if they shut down the government and there is a majority risk as well. >> this may be going out on a limb, but maybe this is smart from a political standpoint. if he signs it, he's able to put distance between himself and congress and he's really blaming them. mitch mcconnell and speaker of the house brought me a crappy deal. i'm signing it for the military, but it's their fault they didn't bring me a better deal. yes, the president has to sign this, he's in charge, but he's creating that distance that he's going to try to tell his base, i
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didn't really like this. >> yet more distance he creates from them or they create from him raises the question, will the democrats control the house in november? we're going to take a very quick break here. stay with us. the president to sign, we are told, the big spending bill. then he may take questions. the questions could wander into very interesting territory. the breaking news continues with wolf blitzer in just a moment. night thing. ul your getting the low-light, just right thing. ♪ introducing the samsung galaxy s9 with low light camera. now 50% off. more for your thing. that's our thing. he's a nascar champion who's she's a world-class swimmer who's stared down the best in her sport. but for both of them, the most challenging opponent was...
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$1.3 trillion spending bill, as you said. the diplomatic room is being set up as we speak. the president not entirely pleased with the spending bill, and apparently was fuming and venting this morning when he was expressing his displeasure with parts of the bill. but we are told now by two administration officials that the president does indeed plan to sign that spending bill which would suspend the government until september. certainly a few trying hours as members were wondering if he was going to veto it. but now we're told he plans to sign that spending bill. >> he just tweeted a while ago, i'll read a couple tweets he tweeted. he said, i'm considering a veto of the omnibus spending bill based on the fact that the 800-plus daca recipients have been totally ignored by democrats, not even mentioned in the bill. and the

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