entire merger. >> thanks so much for that update in washington. and thank you for joining me for this two-hour edition. at this hour, wolf starts right now. hello, i'm wolf blitzer. it's 1:00 p.m. here in washington, 6:00 p.m. in london, 8:00 p.m. in moscow. wherever you're watching from around the world, thank you so much for joining us. poisoning payback. the president dispelling 60 russian diplomats over the u.k. poisoning. moscow responds. the porn star speaks out of an alleged affair with president trump. we will learn if hush money she received broke the law. and the father of the pulse nightclub gunman was a secret fbi informant for a decade.

let's start with a united front against rish right now. the trump administration joining more than a dozen other nations from kidding russian diplomats out of their countries. the u.s. now disspelling 60 russians, 48 from the russian embassy right here in d.c. and 12 from united nations. the president also ordered the russian consulate in seattle closed. moscow has been blamed for the nerve gas attack. the u.k., by the way, expelled 23 russian diplomats over the poisoning. let's go to our chief white house correspondent jim acosta. jim, a strong message from the white house. what are you hearing specifically? >> wolf, this is obviously a shift in tone, a shift in course for the trump administration taking this kind of action against the russians, expelling those 60 diplomats and closing

the consulate in seattle because of its proximity. it's near a submarine base. this is something that will come up in the briefing of rog shaw, mainly because this is such a big change in the trump administration, as you know. when the president spoke to vladimir put inl lastly, here in washington, of course, up on cap toll hill p. one of the questions i think will be asked is why the president himself isn't saying anything publicly about this at this point, but of course it is not out of the ordinary, obviously, to have spokespeople put out this sort of message from the white house. but at the same time, because of the president's reluctance to publicly criticize vladimir putin, really. the last year and a half, that

question will certainly come up during the briefing. >> so there's been no direct statement, no tweet, no specific message from the president, at least not yet, on the expulsion of these russian diplomats, is that right? >> not that we know of as of yet. it has evoked a pretty sharp response from the russian ambassador to the people that this was a great mistake to the russian ambassador to expel these diplomats. the beginning stage in this process when something like this happens does show a great deal of unanimity when the u.s. and other allies in europe and around the world take these kinds of steps to dispel

diplomats. . wolf, it's awfully quiet here at the wolf house. >> jim acosta at the white house. we'll see what they say at the briefing as well. we'll see if the president specifically makes a statement either on twitter or someplace else. the decision by the president and his advisers to expel dozens of russian diplomats from the united states is significant. our senior international correspondent matthew chance is joining us live from moscow. matthew, what's the response from the kremlin? >> well, this is a provocation. they called it an unfriendly act and they're not just talking about the united states, they're talking about the expulsions that have come from the various european nations well. there are 18 nations in total that have expelled -- i think it's 132 of russian diplomats

over the nation's attack along the streets of salisbury in england. they haven't issued exactly what hair going to do yet, but it's the principal of reciprocity, how they deserve the act to respond in kind. we will see a similar number of all u.s. diplomats expelled from russia and a similar number of other diplomats in other countries as well expelled. washington has already launched this strange on-line competition. it's saying which of the u.s. consulates in russia would you shut down, given a choice of three? it is saying quite strongly that russia will respond in kind, wolf. >> i'm sure they will. there was one exception during the transition when the incoming

trump administration suggested maybe they delay the response. they did delay a response in the aftermath of what the obama administration ordered in the face of russian interference in the face of the u.s. presidential election. matthew, thank you very much. we'll get the news from you as soon as it comes in. let's bring in het her. a former cia operative. what do you think, little deal, big deal, the expulsion of 60. >> it is a big deal. 60 diplomats is the largest expulsion in our history, but you combine them with ukraine, canada, it's over on nato territory. it deserves this strong message

from the international. >> we are going to see an explanation. he is going to expel diplomats. putin is very displeased with this president at this point and will continue this offensive. i think it's just the beginning of it, but it's a strong message, and if the president would just come out and support it in a presser, that would be great. >> they announced 60 russian diplomats, 12 from the russian mission, 48 here in washington, shutting down the russian consulate in, maybe new york. they are out skpm -- what, russian operatives? >> right. there are very updated tactics

from the u.n., the maryland suburbs is. >> and the response from the ugss is going rpg of the krrk i. >> they're cias there, they know who they are, they'll expel political officers, anybody they don't happen to like, people dealing with dissidence. it's going to hurt our embassy there a lot, but wolf, i have to say most of the attacks in this country from russia have been d due, but private citizens. . at some point we have to address this criminalization, as i call

it, which we haven't so far. >> many of them are very, very wealthy, these oligarchs, they have a lot of influence. there is going to be a new secretary of. both of them have been pretty confident of the russians, including the president of the united states. >> exactly, i think general pomp pompeo's confirmation hearings will really have to be compli t complicit -- but even weerk. so i think he'll see that. john bolton, when he brkz. the president just seems to be out of sync publicly with his statements with the vigorous

acti action. howe, and he roysment let's see how the russians respond and see what happens after that. guys, thanks so much for coming in. there's more news we're following, including news on stormy daniels. she's talking about her alleged affair with citizen trump more than a decade ago, and the significant payoff that she received. now his lawyers are responding with a new threat. plus, did michael's campai n

campaign. >> plus, ivanthe president said karen mcdougal and stormy daniels reminded him of ivanka trump. back in a minute. almost $800 when we switched our auto and home insurance. with liberty, we could afford a real babysitter instead of your brother. hey! oh, that's my robe. is it? when you switch to liberty mutual, you could save $782 on auto and home insurance. and still get great coverage for you and your family. call for a free quote today. you could save $782 when liberty stands with you. liberty mutual insurance.

intimacy and intimidation. both parts of the rather sordid revelations from adult film star stormy daniels, recounting her alleged affair with private citizen donald trump. among the details what she saw as a message to keep quiet the alleged affair. >> i was in a parking lot going to a fitness class with my infant daughter. the seat is facing backwards in the backseat, diaper bag, getting all the stuff out. and a guy walked up on me and said to me, leave trump alone, forget the story. then he leaned around and looked at my daughter and said, a beautiful little girl. it would be a shame if something happened to her mom. and then he was gone. >> you took it as a direct threat. >> absolutely. i remember going into the workout class, and my hands were shaking so much i thought i would drop her. >> do you remember seeing the person again? >> no. if i did, i would remember them

right away. >> you would be able to recognize him? >> 100%. years later. if he walked in this door right now, i would instantly know. >> did you go to the police? >> no. >> why? >> because i was scared. >> a former attorney for the federal election commission, and cara didmirjian and gloria borger. >> i think the question is who was it. if she said she would recognize the person, it would seem to me that at some point when people deal with her, they'll have to show her pictures of people who might be within the trump organization that perhaps it was. we know michael cohen says he did not -- that he was not the person who threatened her. but, you know, i am sure it is

somebody who may be familiar to her lawyer, and at some point he's going to reveal who it is. we just don't know at this point. >> that would be a significant moment. you're now with the campaign theater here. what did you hear last night in the interview on "60 minutes" that raised some red flags in your mind? >> i think the payment raised a number of red flags. at a minimum the timing indicates the $130,000 payment was made to influence the election -- >> it was 11 days before the election, mend of october, the election mid-november. >> so i think it was seen as something the voters would find important, and in an election, the campaign expenditure needs

to be reported under federal law. >> who would be in potential violation of the law? michael cohen has said the money came basically from his own mon money. he took a home equity loan out, $130,000, and transferred it to her. >> so at a minimum, he made a payment and it's hard to contradict it. he said he wasn't reimbursed by the trump organization or the trump campaign, but there is a number of other people, including the president himself, who may have reimbursed mr. cohen. any of those people are potentially on the hook for violations as well. >> cara, how do you see those potential violations affected at all. usually it takes a long, long time. . >> the stormy daniels side may make additional moves to that. as you raised, we don't know exactly who made what movie to

say, this is the person in his life, and that's what the investigation will like rell ve -- reveal. at the same time, stormy daniels claims to have more information, she's doing these ber views, and the president. that leads to another legal element of, will she start to deficit the. who are likely here. >> let's say robert mueller, the second counsel, decides he would like to take a look at that as well. . i would think they want to avoid this for the president at all

costs, but this is now in federal court. another thing that was interesting was saturday night the president had dinner with mr. cohen. i would say the president, who is not known for his loyalty, had not disbanded him. he took him out in florida to talk about all this and people saw them together. it seems to mep. >> there is a cease and de. wrote this letter -- i told michael had nothing. we have no evidence that any such person exists or the

incident ever occurred. you've read this story. what do you think? >> there's two issues here, about the contract that was signed or whether it's being violated based on what signed it. >> even though the president never signed it, michael cohen signed it. >> that's really for the state courts to decide and the state jurisdiction where he resides. that's, so there's a lot of still unanswered questions. the former play mate. plus, melania trump stayed in florida due to a previously scheduled trip, but her

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stormy daniels dishing the dirt on her alleged affair with president trump. earlier we heard about how daniels felt threatened at one point to keep quiet but she also talked about their time together, and she had this to say. listen to this. >> it started off all about him, just talking about himself. and he said, have you seen my new magazine? >> he was showing you his own picture on the cover. >> right. and i said, does this normally work for you? he looked very taken aback, but he didn't really understand what i was saying. i said, does talking about you normally work? i said, someone should take that magazine and spank you with it. i'll never forget the look on his face. >> what was the look? >> i don't think anyone has ever spoken to him like that,

especially a young woman that looked like me. i said, give me that. and he said, you wouldn't. hand it over. so he did, and i was like turn around, drop 'em. >> you told donald trump to turn around and take off his pants. >> yes. >> and did he? >> yes. he turned around, pulled his pants down a little. he had underwear on and stuff, and i just gave him a couple swats. >> this was done in a joking manner. >> yes. from that moment on, he was a completely different person. >> how so? >> he quit talking about himself and he asked me things and i asked him things and it just became more appropriate. >> became more comfortable? >> yeah. >> melania trump had recently given birth to a son a few months before. did he mention a wife and child? >> i asked, and he brushed it aside saying, yeah, yeah, yeah. don't worry about that, we have separate rooms and stuff. >> did you two go out for dinner that night? >> no. >> you had dinner in the room? >> yes.

>> what happened next? >> i asked him if i could use his restroom, and he said yes. through the bedroom, you'll see it. i excused myself and i went to the restroom. i was in there for a little bit, and i came out and he was sitting on the edge of the bed when i walked out. perched. >> when you saw that, what went through your mind? >> i realized exactly what i had gotten myself into, and i was like, ugh, here we go. i just felt like maybe it was sort of -- i had it coming for making a bad decision for going to someone's room alone, and i just heard my voice saying, well, you put yourself in a bad situation and bad things happen, so you deserve this. >> and you had sex with him? >> yeah. >> you were 27, he was 60. were you physically attracted to him? >> no. >> not at all? >> no. >> did you want to have sex with him? >> no. but i didn't say no. i'm not a victim, i'm not --

>> it was entirely consensual. >> yes. >> you work in an industry where condom use is an issue. did you ask him to use a condom? >> no. >> did you ask him to? >> no. i honestly didn't say anything. >> gloria, what stood out to you in that lengthy interview on "60 minutes"? >> it sounded so warm and loving, didn't it? i think if trump watches this, it will drive him crazy. she made him out to be a victim. it was sad and cartoonish. and what we know now, not only was he cheating on his wife, but he was cheating on his mistress at the time he had this moment with stormy daniels. >> alleged. >> alleged moment. and her story is quite believable, but we don't know

what the president had to say specifically about it, because oddly enough, although he said during the campaign that all the women who had accused him of various degrees of sexual harrassment or involvement were lying, he has been held back from commenting on this. presumably good advice, i would think, from his attorneys, but the story is very believable, i would say. she is somebody who just told the story as she saw it. she did take $130,000, we know that, but, anyway, it does sound -- the specifics are so specific. >> and you know cooper anderson ent interviewed stormy daniels on

"60 minutes" but he also spoke to karen mcdougal, and he raised the notion that both of them reminded him of his daughter ivanka. listen to this. >> he's like, wow. you, you are special. you remind me of my daughter. >> you know, he's very proud of ivanka, as he should be. she's a brilliant woman, she's beautiful -- that's his daughter and he should be proud of her. he said i was beautiful like her and a smart girl. there wasn't a lot of comparing but there was some. i heard a lot about her. >> so what do you think? >> of course he's proud of his daughter but that's very strange and orthodox and in a way very offputting, sort of advanced flir ta flirtation when you're about to sleep with somebody. it wouldn't pass the ick test way lot of people.

i don't think they coordinated their interviews. the karen mcdougal interview aired after stormy daniels. they both said they reminded him of his daughter, the lack of protection they used in the encounters. it seems like -- if the allegations are true, he's got a way in which he does these things. the fact their stories do match up on all these points that you can't really pull out of thin air, especially on the ivanka front, doesn't give him a lot of credibility. and they're very genuinely seeming people when they're talking about these encounters. >> melania trump, the first lady, issued a statement. while i know the media is entertaining such solac ir krrs

gossip, i would like to remind people there's a minor child who who's name should be kept out of news stories when at all possible. >> and karen mcdougal was staying in the apartment in trump tower, which i think would set any wife off, and she's trying to protect her kid. because he's old enough for his friends at school to be watching this and hearing their parents talk about it. and i'm sure it's really difficult for her. we know that, for example, they travel in separate cars now when they go to andrews to get on an airplane. it seems to me this has created

quite a rift, although melania is not talking about it. and it's difficult. >> and he is completely innocent in all of this. he did not make the decision to marry donald trump, you can't speculate what he knew or didn't know going in. and this sort of thing, when you're 11 or 12, is a difficult time, anyway, to be a kid, and when your parents are going through something that's all over the headlines, that's hard, and yet -- and yet -- this is the president we're talking about. it is not just a gossip story. there are potential legal issues at play here as well, so it's not something that can just be ignored. >> awkward situation, indeed. thanks so much, guys, for joining us. we'll have much more on this story coming up. we'll stand by for the white house press briefing coming up as well. we'll see what they have to say over there about all of this. in addition, there is other news including a stunning revelation. the father of the pulse nightclub shooter was a former fbi informant.

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there is a twist to the woman accused of aiding her husband in the pulse nightclub shooting in orlando, florida. a massacre that left 49 people dead. attorneys for noor salman are calling for a dismissal of charges or a mistrial following new revelations about the father of the pulse gunman. according to a motion filed by the defense, sadik mateen was an

fbi informant. documents were found on the day of the pulse attack. we have special analyst josh campbell. josh, what impact, if any, do you think this will have on the case? >> i think it will be a distraction. i can't see it being anything beyond that. obviously the government has some answers they need to provide as far as why the delay, was is this information only now being provided. but i think it would be challenging for anyone to accept the fact what defense is essentially saying here. their points are because the father was an fbi informant that somehow he was conspiring with omar mateen and not her. and because the government didn't provide that information, they're going after her in order to hide their own failure, which again, makes no sense.

obviously the government has answers they need to provide, but i don't see this affecting the case law. >> why did it take so long for the government to provide this information to the defense, that the shooter's father was an fbi informant? >> that's a good question and we are owed those answers. it's up to the government to provide that type of information to the defense so they can prepare and try to state their case. but again, remember where this information came from and how we found out about it. the government told us. if it was human error, we need to know about that. if there is some other reason for the delay, we need to know about that, but i don't think we should prescribe some type of malicious action right now. >> and the money was discovered in his apartment. what does that mean? >> it's interesting, if you look at some of the reporting, it was a voluntary review and consent search where the search was

voluntary. why did he let them in? i'm not saying he's as pure as the white snow here, but she may not be a prudent person. there's other news developing over at the u.s. department of the interior. i want to go quickly to sara gamin who is getting new information for cnn. tell us about this. >> three different hiring people in three different departments told cnn essentially the same story, and that is secretary zinke, one of his talking points has been over the last year that diversity is not important, and rather, that he wants the right person in the right job so that he can get the best people. now, this has upset many people who heard him say this over the last 12 months or so. a lot of people believe that the department of the interior has long suffered from a lack of diversity, both in race and in gender, and that these kinds of comments are only making women

and minorities who work there feel less welcome. now, what the department has said in response to this is that he flat out denied he said it, they're calling it anonymous claims and saying they're just flat out untrue. the spokeswoman who i spoke to, i think it's important and fair to note she is a woman herself who has worked with zinke for a number of years, going back to his days in congress. she told me, quote, i am hopeful these are the results of a misunderstanding and not a deliberate mistruthful. >> this isn't the first time he's been accused of something along these lines. coming up with the wrong tone when it comes to these kinds of sensitive issues. tell us about that. >> that's right, it's not the first time he's been accused of something like this. just about a week ago, he came under quite a bit of fire for greeting a congresswoman, colleen hunabusa from hawaii, with the japanese greeting.

it came after she asked him about a hearing for funding japanese internment camps in 1932. the folks i spoke to says this comes across to them as an insensitivity, as a lack of understanding for why diversity is important, because of the different perspectives that it brings. a number of people, it's become known to us that a number of people have made complaints along these lines to several different departments who are now investigating, and the result of those investigations we may see in the coming weeks, wolf. >> he's made the point that as a navy s.e.a.l. he was trained at least in part in japan and he had a very close relationship with the japanese. he was trying to underscore that when he uttered those words during that congressional testimony, certainly meant no harm as a result. but i'm sure you'll continue to work your sources and get more on all of this.

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yet another shake-up in the president's cabinet is now

expected any day. a source says veterans affairs secretary david shulkin will be the next to go. tensions between he and the white house have grown, became public after allegations into alleged spending abuses. i'm joined by the founder and ceo of iraq and afghanistan veterans of america. paul, thanks for joining us. clearly you have been a close observer of the veterans administration for more than a decade. in your opinion, what kind of job has he done? >> it's been a bumpy few weeks, wolf. overall the big concern here is drama, drama, drama. if there wasn't so much else happening in washington this week, this would be probably front page news. he's received good marks in the first year from veterans groups and others but with multiple i.g. reports and political in-fighting it's been tough for him. we have asked our 4,000 members and only about 24% of them right

now support his performance. he's had a tough couple of weeks. he's under fire right now. unfortunately, veterans are caught in the middle again. if you look back this is what happened for v.a. secretaries a lot lately. obama lost shinseki, bush lost nickelson. it's been turbulent for the v.a. and vets are caught in the middle. >> should he be fired by the president? >> our members are unhappy. as an organization we haven't taken a formal position but talking to veterans across the country, his stock continues to plummet. if he is in this position now where he's got political in-fighting around him he might be paralyzed. the president has an important decision to make. run reason he has the support is he's a moderate holdover. many veterans groups are concerned if he's knocked out the person who follows him could be more extreme. this is about a bigger political fight for the future of the v.a., the soul of the v.a. there is tremendous fighting in washington over whether or not to expand privatization of the

second largest bureaucracy in the federal government. we are talking $200 billion and 300,000 employees. it is a massive part of the government most people aren't tracking on. >> the president floated the idea of moving rick perry, the energy secretary, over to veterans affairs. there are a bunch of other names that have come forward as well. among those names including rick perry, who do you like? >> our members are men and women who served post 9/11. we like to see someone from our generation, someone who can break through partisan gridlock, who understands the wounds and issues of a new generation. 20% of our members are women. we'd like someone who can support women veterans. the issue here is it's like musical chairs. it's all instability. that's the concern from our membership. this is unstable. if you are trying to get your g.i. bill check paid or go in

for voc-rehab this affects your life. we need this to be stable and it is in the cross hairs of nasty fighting that's hurting veterans. >> let's get your thoughts on the case involving miguel perez, a u.s. or many -- army veteran who served two tours of duty in afghanistan. he was deported to mexico last week. perez came to the united states legally when he was 8 but his citizenship was denied because of a felony drug conviction. perez said his ptsd led to drugs and alcohol, didn't get help he needed from the department of veterans affairs. what's your opinion? should perez have been deported? >> i don't think so, personally. i think if you ask most members they would want to see a path for him that focuses on treatment. this is a guy who clearly has wounds of war, who suffers with post traumatic stress disorder.

i don't think we want to see our heroes thrown out like trash across the border. when it zeroes in on a veteran who served two combat tours it may bring to light how the policies are short-sighted. senator tammy duckworth has taken up the case and has asked for an allowance here. most veterans want more treatment on mental health, more lenient and more accommodating justice system. veterans courts are popular among the veteran community. we'd like a pathway of understanding and support rather than making our troops feel disposable. >> thank you very much for joining us, paul. >> thank you, wolf. appreciate the attention on the issues. >> we have another story just coming in to cnn. florida senator marco rubio speaking to cnn about the criticism that's been levelled against him and his policies regarding guns by survivors of the parkland, florida, school massacre. listen to this. >> senator, this is your first

public event since the marchs over the weekend. there was a lot of pointed criticism directed at you. >> that's fine. people have a right to do that. i'm focused on meaningful changes that will make sure what happened in parkland never happens anywhere. the only way to i can ma changes in our -- make changes in our republic is for people with different opinions to come together and find common ground. that's what i'm doing. i'm working with at least half of the parkland families directly to come up with commonsense, common ground solutions to move forward. we have already achieved the stop school violence act, fix nics and we are moving forward on red flag laws. anyone who wants to join the efforts is certainly welcome. >> we'll have more from the senator coming up on cnn. other news, the porn star suing the president speaking out for the first time about their alleged affair saying she was threatened to stay quiet. the white house meanwhile getting ready to respond to all of this.

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