one for security. the other for recon since. it had audio chambers so the leerd could be briefed and give orders. it's morning now. hopefully we'll get information in the coming hours. >> that's it for me. erin burnett outfront starts rite now. next, denial. team trump knocking down stormy daniels story. trump expelling 60 russians after the poisoning of an ex-spy. does it prove he's going to punish putin? diversity is not important. that's what the interior secretary says. let's go outfront. the battle between the president and stormy daniels escala escalating. daniels suing the president's

personal attorney suing michael cohen for defamation. now more evidence of threats according to daniels attorney. he tells us that he has several leads when it comes to the man who threatened daniels in a las vegas parking lot about her story of trump in 2011. >> a guy walked up on me and said leave trump alone. forget this story. helened around and looked at my daughter and said a beautiful little girl. would be a shame if something happened to her mom and then he was gone. >> this happened as the white house is adamant that daniels is not telling the truth. >> the president strongly, clearly and has consistently denied these underlying claims. the president doesn't believe any of the claims are accurate. >> a strange word to use. there's no belief. he either knows them to be true or not to be true.

they involve him and her. the president maintains stormy daniels is lying. it's a strategy he uses again and again. he's accused affair, unwanted advancement and harassment. it's not mattered how many women have come forward. he says they are all liars. >> they are pure fiction and out right lies. these events never ever happened. >> every woman lied when they came forward to hurt my campaign. the events never happened. never. all of these liars will be sued. >> is the official white house position that all of these women are lying? >> we have been clear on that from the beginning and the president has spoken on it. >> he hasn't sued a single one

of them. the president said why doesn't washington post report the story of the women taking money to make up stories about me. we know two women who did take money. took it to be quiet about their extramarital relationships with president trump. i'm talking about stormy daniels and karen mcdougal. mcdougal got $150,000 in cash from a trump ally. he was paid for her story that was killed. meaning never published. both payments came in the days and months leading up to the election. the women are now telling their stories and sound strikingly similar. >> we passed a room and he said this is melania's room. she likes to have her alone time or to get away to read or something like that. >> did he mention his wife or child at all in this? >> i asked and he brushed it aside and said, don't worry

about that. we have separate rooms and stuff. >> that's not where the similarities stop. we'll have more in a moment. were they silenced in an effort to influence the 2016 election? this is a serious question with major legal implications for the president and his team. it's time for the president to give the american people full answers to all of these questions instead of just calling all of the many women who have come forward liars. pamela brown is outfront live at the white house. >> reporter: noticeably silent. this is a president who doesn't hesitate to fight back to take aim at people on twitter. we're not seeing that happen here in this case with the president in the wake of the stormy daniels 60 minutes interview. despite that, sources close to the president tell us that he has been paying close attention

to the coverage of the interview before and after. he's been agitated. we know he's been paying close attention to it. it is noteworthy that he hasn't spoken out about it at this point. the white house will not say whether the president actually watched the interview last night on 60 minutes. he could not answer them. he directed a lot of the questions to michael cohen. the lawyer for the president who was part of this deal. the president had dinner with michael cohen and silence from the white house on the allegations. >> thank you very much.

the president doesn't believe the alle allegations. sarah is outfront. >> did you want to have sex with limb him? >> no. i didn't say no. the sex was consensual. >> reporter: they have a lot in common when it comes to donald trump. daniels broke her silence to and and anderson cooper for 60 minutes. mcdougal also talked to cnn. >> he said i was beautiful like her. you're a smart girl. >> reporter: some details their stories have in common are noteworthy because they show a pattern of alleged behavior including intimidation, payoff and media influence by trump's allies as he ran for president. both say they have sexual

relationships with donald trump between 2006 and 2007. >> did he use a condom? >> no. >> did he ever use protection? >> no. >> reporter: both say they spent time with trump when he attended this lake tahoe tournament. she had been dating him and daniels says she met him there. >> he came in one day and said there's a bunch of porn stars out there. >> reporter: both were paid for their story before the 2016 election. clifford paid $130,000 by trump's person attorney to keep quiet. mcdougal paid $150,000 to sell her story to ami. the parent company of the enquirer which never ran it. the women say they were intimidated at different points to keep them silent. clifford in 2011 and mcdougal in 2016. >> ami has put out a statement saying you can talk to the media. that you're free. >> according to their attorney, i can't. there will be financial ruin. >> i was in a parking lot going

to a fitness class with my infant daughter and a guy walked up on me and said to me leave trump alone. forget the story. he leaned around and said a beautiful little girl. be a shame if something happened to her mom. insisting cohen had nothing to do with any such person or incident and does not believe such a person exists or such an incident occurred. cohen has long said donald trump has denied the affairs took place and knew nothing of the deals. ami says they deny any coordinated campaign to convince mcdougal she would be sued. >> i think somebody is lying and to it's not me. >> he knows i'm telling truth. >> reporter: there is one

difference. stormy daniels said she did not find the president attractive and it was a business dealing. he certainly never loved him. mcdougal said something different. she said she loved the president and said that the president told her he loved her too. erin. >> thank you very much. >> outfront now gloria alred. good to have you back. let me start with you. the stories sound a lot alike and some rather unsettling ways. does that make them more or less believable to you? >> i find them to be credible but there are stark differences.

while both appeared to be consensual. it's interesting that karen mcdougal suggested there was a romantic relationship. they said they loved each other and she had nothing negative at all to say about president trump. on the other hand, in reference to stormy daniels, that appeared to be sex in the context of and after then donald trump, indicated a question that he was the host of the apprentice at that time and asked her if she might be interested this being on the apprentice. after that, sex took place. later there were discussions about whether or not she would be on the apprentice. she met him one more time o although there was no sex. he didn't have a decision about the apprentice. that's a quid pro quo sexual harassment claim she might have had them. doesn't have now because it's

too late. that's interesting. >> certainly the story ies echo each other. the women say they have been subjected to intimidation and threats. let he play stormy daniels again. >> i was in parking lot going to a fitness class with my infant daughter. diaper bag, seat facing backwards, getting the stuff out and a guy walked up on me and said to me, leave trump alone. forget the story and he leaned around and looked at my daughter and said a beautiful little girl. be a shame if something happened to her mom and then he was gone. >> you took it as a direct threat? >> absolutely. >> sam, trump advisor called you and other accusers of the

president bimbos. you've been subjected to some of this as well. what stands out to you? >> to me, especially just how the president and his camp continues to call not just them but all of us liars and just because he calls us liars several times does not make us liars especially in my case. i'm simply confirming audio of him talking about going backstage and checking out the miss usa contestants in the dressing room. i'm confirming your own words. that clearly gets rid of any validation that he could have that he ever tells the truth. >> larry, interesting here on this issue of telling the truth. the president's deputy press secretary used the word believe. the president doesn't believe stormy daniels. i found an absurd word to

choose. he knows. you can call her a liar or not. believe says they didn't want to go farther than that. stormy daniels is suing the man who paid her to be quiet. what happens next here that moves the needle? >> the defamation suits avoid some problems such as the statute of limitations. they are trying to get it outside the arbitration agreement and bring it into court and the question will be whether or not michael cohen lied about stormy daniels and knew it was a lie or recklessly disregarded the fact it was a lie. with discovery stormy daniels

can take michael cohen deposition and might arguably take other depositions of the president. he might be considered a witness to what happened. it really does present the white house with some real problems. it's one thing to say whatever you want to say on the campaign trial and be factually challenge on the campaign trail. when you get put under oath as president clinton found out, it becomes very important what you say and that it's true. i think this moves it into a different field. >> it does. gloria, the white house said there's nothing to corroborate daniels claim. her lawyer has suggested again and again. he put out that picture there's something on it, pictures. here is what he said just today. after the old interview aired on 60 minutes. here is what he said today. >> we have a whole host of evidence. this is not going away. >> there's going to be a lot of evidence that will come to light

in the come weeks and months. she can describe his genitalia. she can describe various conversations that leave no doubt as to whether this woman is telling the truth. >> gloria, at what point should daniels lawyer put the evidence out or look like he's crying wolf? >> well, he has been battling in the court of public opinion so there are no standards there. there are ethical limb titationn lawyers. those ethical guidelines for lawyers have to be adhered to. stormy daniels testimony is evidence. it can be weighed by the trier of fact. as to that dvd that contained evidence. all the evidence documentary recordings, e-mails, texts,

according to the settlement agreement that she signed, if it's valid then they would have to destroy all the evidence or turn it over and not permitted to preserve or keep any evidence. >> which could be a question. you spoke out early. you have come out and spoken out again. you've done so despite people saying nasty things, trying to intimidate you. you've been unafraid. are you afraid or skiered at all when you look at this pattern of intimidation that's out there? >> you know, it's not always easy to do what's right but it is always necessary. sometimes it does get kind of

scary for me. i'll be honest with you but i have a great support system and i'm very -- there's a lot of women that have gone before me that have done a lot tougher things than this. i think it's important that i keep fighting and standing up for the women of our country. >> all right. thank you very much, sam, for doing that. thanks very much gloria and larry for being with me. don't my anderson's full interview. it's coming up in the next hour. you can see it again. next, the new york times reporting that president trump has told advisors he hopes rob porter comes back. that's rob porter. the one whose two ex-wives and live in girlfriends said that he abused them. plus interior secretary under fire tonight for saying he doesn't care about di virs verd. after failing to mention the poison attacks and the call with vladimir putin and saying maybe

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there was picture of one of his wives with a black eye. this is one of them. this picture appeared in the daily mail. the president's calls with porter have increased over the past few weeks. they are talking. they are citing three sources familiar with the conversations. joan, the president's calls to mr. porter has increased and he's aware he probably can but thinking about bringing porter back. >> still thinks he could come back. thinks he got a raw deal. he was unfairly accused. that story is so disturbing on so many levels. it's so cloear the president is isolated. does motnot have people he's comfortable with. why can't rob porter come back. i don't want to leave aside the allegations against him, the

domestic violence allegations. you can't have a person in that position who does not have a full security clearance. you can't do it. i don't know that anybody will come of this. >> he's not able to get security clearance. >> he's never get it. >> been married twice and both sides have said it and his live in girlfriend. what do you make of this? >> we know that the president, one of his top priorities is loyalty to the people around him. it says he's probably not going to bring him back. i agree that you can't have somebody in that position -- >> he's aware he can't. >> because of the security clearance. i think this is just another story and i don't think anything will come of it. >> does it bother you that the president would express a desire to bring someone back who had physically abused both of his ex-wives? >> i think it seays in the

article about how we can be sympathetic to people because of the attacks he's under and will relate to that. you know, i think domestic violence is a serious issue across this country. i don't see the president bringing him back but at the same time, i see the president focused on what is good for america, his agenda. what he wants to do and obviously rob porter was somebody he worked well with. he liked the structure there and he believed in the america first agenda. it's hard to prioritize that probably when he's thinking of these things. i don't think he's going to -- i don't think he'll bring him back. >> i want to play what the president said about rob porter. he expressed his thoughts about it. here he is. >> it was very sad when we heard about it and certainly he's also very sad. he also, as you probably know, he says he's innocent. i think you have to remember

that. he said very strokly yesterday that he's innocent. you'll have to talk to him about that. we absolutely wish him well. did a very good job while at the white house. >> that's his point of view when a man is accused by a woman. >> every woman. >> very similar to the president himself. he feels he's under attack. >> right. >> by many women. >> they're all liars. >> well over a dozen. >> he insists all the women are liars. he won't talk about stormy daniels. he's the only one he hasn't personally called a liar yet. rob porter's accusers are liars. he can't afford to lose more republican women. as we approach the midterm, that is what has to scare

republicans. >> i think the difference here is that there's photographic evidence with these women. >> right. >> i'm not saying -- >> there's the tape of the president saying he grabs women by the p. >> i think that was locker room talk. i really think it was but -- >> can i ask you a question. i know we're far past that because we never dealt with it. he says he does it and more than a dozen women say he does exactly those things. how do you dismiss that as talk? you have people saying he did it. >> it's easy for women to say he did it to me. he's denied it. i think -- as long as he's denying it, i mean -- >> amy, how many women, as a woman, would it take for you to believe that? >> to believe what?

>> 15 or 16 women who have accused him of harassment or assault. there's extramarital affairs. we have two women. >> he denies it. >> the president doesn't believe stormy daniels. why would he use that word? >> i mean -- >> he's either going to say she's lying or it's true. i don't believe when tfit was between you and him, why do you think. >> i don't know. the president has denied that and said there was nothing there. nothing happened between them. i don't think fwany of it reall matters. you have poll numbers that are coming up. he's doing what he promised to do on job, the economy, trade. that is what people care about. it's not just a cnn poll.

we have seen it with a fox news poll that his job approval numbers are coming up. while the stormy daniels is out there, we all saw it this weekend. the thing about the stormy daniels thing, the only part is relevant is the possible fec violation. >> the threats are relevant. >> we don't know that they happened. >> we'll see. >> joan, you're a mom, i'm a mom. i'll tell you one thing. if anybody ever threatened me with my daughter and she's my only child, if anybody ever threatened me, the first thing i would do is call the police. there's nothing more important than my child. i don't care how powerful they are. >> i want to go back to the polls. the polls are interesting. the president has gotten bump in the polls in the last month. that's a good thing for republicans. here are two things. >> it's a good thing for americans. >> here are two things that are bad p there's a huge gender gap. republican women are more

likely -- they favor -- they believe the women more than they believe trump. that's unheard of. the other thing is among people who are very enthusiastic about voting in november, only 38% approve of the president. what you have is an energized base that disapproves of the president that believes the women approaching a critical midterm election. >> i will say as a founder of the tea party movement, this is the red flag for republicans because we did not have money in 2010. we had momentum and able to take back the house. the republicans better get on it and pay attention because this is a well funded movement and they've got the momentum and we saw what happened -- >> it's grass roots movement. >> you better get on it. >> connor lamb was out spent. >> you have mitch mcconnell and paul rye yoan kicking their bas teeth. republicans are in trouble if they don't pay attention.

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new tonight, retaliating against russia. president trump kicking out 60 russian diplomats over the poisoning of former spies. the u.s. says the diplomats are spies. trump also closing the russian consulate in seattle which is located in the building you see there, 25th floor. this coming three days after we told you trump national security council has been urging him to do this. it took the white house ten days to blame russia for the attack. trump was reluctant to out right blame putin and remember trump ignored his own advisors advice to condemn the poisoning.

chief national correspondent jim sciutto is outfront. it's the toughest action yet that president trump has taken against putin. >> no question. it's significant for a couple of reasons. one because it is coordinated. it is western allies. the u.s., nearly two dozen countries expelling at once the entire eu. a number of russian diplomats who are spies. that will impact russirussia's ability to gather intelligence. for the president to do this, someone who has been reluctant to penalize russia and speak critically in public about russia. that's a step although notable the president, as you have said, didn't say it in his call with putin, did not make public comments about it. the statement came from the podium at the white house press briefing in an announcement this morning.

the question is will it accomplish the task. the u.s. is expelled diplomats before. the obama administration did that. they sanctioned russia for its interfere interference in ukraine. will this change this kind of behavior. the murder of people outside of its boarderders. >> thank you. the democratic senator from new jersey. he's the ranking member of the senate foreign relations committee. thanks for your time tonight. first your reaction to these diplomats being expelled. do you give president trump credit for this move? >> it's a welcomed action by the united states and an administration that has been absolutely reticent to do

anything on russia and to expel 60 intelligence officers, close the seattle location and do it in concert with 14 european nations is a strong message. it's simply not enough. this administration has been unwilling to challenge russia for all of its violation of international order. i hope this is only the beginning or first step. i hope they will finally pursue the sanctions that congress called for in overwhelming votes against russia. 98-2 in the senate alone. those are mandatory sanctions which the administration have yet to levee. >> i want to ask you about that because you raise that point that they have not moved forward on that. of course you've been critical of how the president himself has handled vladmir putin. i want to play, senator, a brief clip of what you said earlier this month on the senate floor. >> there's one thing that

president trump has shown rock solid consistency on since taking office. that's the shameful embrace of russian president vladmir putin. >> the president himself has been loathe to admit that putin intervened in the u.s. election. his administration has taken some actions. the treasury department imposed sanctions on russian oligarchs. people that the department of homeland security seays are responsible for hacking the electricity grid. those are actions that have been taken. my question to you is do the actions speak louder than the president's personal silence? >> well, not really because most of the sanctions you just referenced to are repeats of sanctions that were leveed under the obama administration versus some of those individuals that were particularly chosen.

it has a series of mandatory sanctions that the administration has not yet leveed. i think there are far stronger actions to take than simply largely marrying what the obama administration did when so much more has happened with russia. >> i want to ask you about another breaking story on cnn tonight. several employees of the interior department have told us that secretary ryan has made several comments along the lines of and these are in quotes but have been made over several times. diversity is an important or i don't care about diversity or i don't really think that's important anymore. each time he's followed with something along the lines of and i quote, what's important is having the right person for the right job or i care about excellence and i'm going to get the best people. you'll find we have the most diverse group anyone's ever had. is he right? >> well, look, diversity doesn't come at the sacrifice of qualitquality

and the best people. we can find some of the best people in nation from diverse communities whether that diversity is ethnically, racially or otherwise. the problem is that zinke is clearly on a path in which, i think, we're going to have increasingly a lily white department of the interior. i'm really concerned that this is one of many elements of the cabinet where diversity is not only not important but it's not an effect. if anything, diverse and excellent members of those departments increasingly seem to either be let go or pushed eed e to a lower position. it's a real challenge because the nation needs to and it's departments of the interior and every federal department needs to look like the united states of america. we can do that with the highest

quality. we don't have to sacrifice quality in order to achieve diversi diversity. that's where the secretary is absolutely wrong. >> thanks so much. appreciate your time. >> thank you. next, a veteran lawyer dropped just days after being added to trump's legal team battling robert mueller. a lawyer who turned down an offer to join trump's team, joins me next. an obama administration official now says the u.s. was warned two years ago about russian meddling. why wasn't it stopped then? we have a special investigation. ♪ i thought i was managing my moderate to severe crohn's disease. then i realized something was missing... me. my symptoms were keeping me from being there. so, i talked to my doctor and learned humira is for people who still have symptoms of crohn's disease after trying other medications. and the majority of people on humira saw significant symptom relief and many achieved remission in as little as 4 weeks. humira can lower your ability to fight infections,

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another lawyer gone from president trump's russia legal team. a lawyer who we only learned was joining the team a few days ago. this leaves president trump with one personal lawyer working full-time on the russia investigation. that personal left is joe. it was only seven days ago that he officially announced being on board. robert, i very much appreciate your time. you understand this sort of investigation and the people

involved with it better than anyone else. sources told us you were one of four lawyers asked to join. can you confirm or deny that? >> i don't think it appropriate for me to get into that, erin. i'm sorry. >> i understand. one person we know trump reached out to was the ted olson who has turned the president down multiple times in his request to join the team. today he said there's an extraordinary amount of chaos surrounding trump. i wanted to play how he put it. >> everybody would agree it's chaos, turmoil and not good for anything. >> do you agree with ted olson? >> yes, i do. very much so.

>> what happens in an environment like that? you now have one lawyer working full-time for the president in an environment of turmoil, chaos and confusion. what happens then? >> well, it's very dangerous to the president. that one lawyer is not a criminal lawyer. here the president is being investigated by wbob mueller an team of some of the most experienced criminal lawyers in the country. it's a very dangerous situation for the president. >> the president tweeted yesterday and i quote him. many lawyers and top law firms want to represent me in the russia case. don't believe the fake news narrative that it's hard to find a lawyer who wants to take this on. fame and fortune will never be turned down by lawyer. a new lawyer and law firm will take months to get up to speed

and for no other reason they can bill more which is unfair with our country. what do you say to the president's tweets? for a guy like you, you want it for fame and fortune. if you took the job and took a long time to get up to speed it would just be because you want to rip him off. >> well, leave me out of it but the type of lawyer the president needs is a lawyer who already has some fame and success in the practice of law. i'm sure the president's right there would be many lawyers in the country that would love the exposure of representing the president but very experienced lawyers like ted olson who have achieved a lot of fame, they don't want to go into a

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back. the russians backed off, they didn't go away. they got better. and one former u.s. official said he tried to sound the alarm that the russians would try the same tactics in the u.s. it was a sign of what was to come. the russian's new weapon of war. he said in 2014, two years before the u.s. election he urged the state department to keep the task force up and running and build on it. >> i was telling the state department, for the love of god, keep this up. this is not the moment for us to stand down. >> reporter: bruin pitched a command department. but the state department dismissed the department. cnn spoke to half a dozen state department officials.

others blame bureaucracy for getting in the way. and still others say no one including bruin assessed a damage. there was just no money for what he was proposing. we were operating on a shoe string budget it was. whatever the reason, the warning of the looming russian threat was not shared across the obama administration. more than 80 people at the kremlin backed internet research agency were already assigned to to meddling in u.s. life. multiple sources tell cnn they had no idea the extent of the russian's activities. in other words, they missed it. you knew enough that he would be

able to foresee the whole fake news, fake grass root support, fake twitters coming in the election. >> not only did i feel like i knew enough at that moment, i was sitting in the situation room saying this is something that is going to march across western europe, something that is going to march over to our shores and we need to be ready. >> reporter: aaron bruin says his biggest concern is what russia going to do next. he is puzzled why the trump administration chooses to ignore. he doesn't believe the trump administration is doing much to counter them. >> thank you very much. next, jeanne moos on trump suddenly out of words when it

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>> reporter: president of the united states is waving, pointing smiling. but when it comes to the hush agreement meant to keep stormy quiet, it has been the president hush lately. >> mr. president, any comment on mrs. mcdougal? >> reporter: taunting, daring, provoking president trump. >> we have a president that will tweet about the most mundane things. >> for some reason he can't come out and deny the affair. you know why he won't tweet about it, because it is true. >> reporter: only stab at a post 60 minutes tweet was generic. he is leaving the spin to his spokespeople. >> why haven't we heard from him? >> that will be up to the president. >> reporter: donald trump doesn't always zip it when

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