and thanks to the international viewers. for you cnn talk is next. for the u.s. viewers, new day continues. we've got a lot of news. what do you say? let's get after it. >> 60 russian diplomats, one week to pack their bags and get out. >> we cannot stand when the sovereignty of our allies is threatened. >> my suspicion is this is something the president didn't demand, which he decided not to oppose. >> it was the right response but the president has yet to respond to russia's attacks here in the united states. >> my client is interested in the truth and nothing but the truth. period. >> her story is one -- the president's story has been -- just because the president has been consistent. -- if you think stormy daniels and mcdougal are the last ones we'll hear from, everyone is sadly mistaken. >> this is new day with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota.

welcome to new day. russian government is vowing to strike back after two dozen countries expel russian diplomats around the world in retaliation for the attack on a former spy. the kremlin blames president trump for putting pressure on allies after he ordered the largest ever expulsion of russian officials in u.s. history. >> meantime, the white house is disputing a porn star's claim that she was threatened to keep quiet about her alleged affair with donald trump. now stormy daniels is suing the president's personal lawyer for defamation. president trump is still talking to rob porter, the former white house aide who -- the question is is there a move to bring porter back? would that be possible. let's bring in michelle kosinski with the top story. >> there's no word from vladimir putin. but they've warned that the time

will come this was a grave mistake. although the trump administration warned right back, if russia does that, the u.s. could take additional action. but let's take a look at the scope of this. right now, it's up to two dozen countries working together for the biggest mass expulsion of russian diplomats in history. in the u.s. that means 60 of them. 12 out of new york. the rest spread around the country. the rest in the consulate in seattle. 13% of the entire russian contingent in the u.s. the administration isn't even calling them diplomats at this point. they're calling them spies. aggressive gatherers of intelligence. someone else we haven't heard from yet on this. president trump. even the statement that came out of the white house was not in trump's name. it was from the press secretary. you know it was only days ago that he congratulated putin on his election win against the wishes of his own national security team. he didn't bring up the poisonings on the call.

although, this move does send a message. one that many are hoping is the beginning. alisyn and chris? >> michelle, appreciate it. how will russia respond to the coordinated expulsions of dpip low mats. we have john avlon and david sanger with us. david sanger, let me ask you. do we care how russia responds? is this about showing strength and this was an open question of what this administration would do given the president's reticence to take on vladimir putin? >> i think you have to start, chris, with the thought that this is the strongest step as michelle pointed out. it's twice the number of diplomats that president obama sent out of the country after the conclusion that the russians had meddled in the election. he did that just before he left office. i think it puts a serious dent in the critique that many have been leveling at the president that he has gone very soft on

the russians. it does not explain why it is that he is unable to discuss this in public, is unable to discuss it directly with president putin. he did not take it up in that phone call you mentioned earlier. it also doesn't give us a window into a larger strategy for whether we're trying to contain russia, engage them or something in between. so at this point, you know what's going to happen next. the russians will expel a similar number of americans. that will decrease the cia's view into russia, just as we have decreased russian intelligence views into the united states. the big question is, was there something a little more creative the united states could do going after oligarchs money, exposing putin's money that might have been harder for the russians to do such a retaliation against. >> john, isn't this confusing? isn't this a confusing move

because of president's reluctance for the past year to do anything harsh against russia and because of his stated goal to have better relations with russia. why did he do this move? >> well, you've got a multilateral coalition that the united states couldn't very well sit out. more than that, it's notable that the united states has expelled almost twice as many russian diplomats/spies as britain did. i think it spikes to the dive e divergence in the administration. the national security team has been very tough on russia. the president virtually sigh ent. as david pointed out, the contradiction is fairly stark. >> usually the president wins when there's contradiction from what we've seen. >> credit where credit is due. the trump administration's actions are very tough and appropriately so in an old-fashioned coalition. the question is, the president sort of dragged his feet on this as he had on sanctions. >> we have to be careful about his metric.

his metric is most often, is this good or bad for me. how will this play in the media, how is this playing in the media? this is going to be basically received as a positive move because of what russia alleged to have done. he'll probably like it. look at what the poll numbers show. another motivation for the president here. is he too easy on russia? 47%. about right 41%. too tough, 4%. again, with the caveat that he looks at things through the lens of what this means to him, the only rational explanation for why he ignores russian interference. he thinks it's pew at thbad for. do you think it might encourage more moves where russia is involved? there's plenty on the table. >> there certainly is. in the one air wa where the -- no go, any retaliation for their activities in the election. although, you did see, again, some limited sanctions against

individuals related to the internet research agency and others. so there's a funny disconnect of the president saying things that are so simplistic as if, what's the matter with having a good relationship with russia, congratulating putin on an election that we think was at least partially fraudulent, and then not engaging publicly. then you read the policy of the administration, and policy is fascinating. the policy says, this started in december and accelerated in january, that terrorism should no longer be the central focus of american national security strategy, but instead dealing with revisionist super powers, meaning russia and china, should be. and it's a really interesting, important fundamental shift in american strategy that the president himself has never once

articulated. that leaves vladimir putin asking the question, who should i believe? the cabinet members, the bureaucrats in the national security council or what the president tells me? >> i mean, the strategy is actually, i think, correct and admirable. the president's silence is the thing to drill down on. that fundamental contradiction speaks to something. he's gone after his own attorney general, his own -- his law enforcement agencies and pop culture figures over nothing more than vladimir putin. he o clearly has. there's more than enough evidence -- but he refuses to articulate that personally. this was a statement albeit tough from the white house. at some point we have to square the circle. you have to get to the bottom of why the president, facing a clear strategic imperative to face russia, refuses to speak to it personally. ordinarily this would be fine because this would be the typical operating design of a white house. but this president is different.

he lets you know what's on his mind and he has a pattern of only talking about what he thinks is good for him. silence usually shows some kind of concern. >> that's usually not consistent with the oath. we'll see if he speaks about it today. thank you, gentlemen. >> thank you. the white house says the president continues to deny having an affair with stormy daniels and he does not believe she was ever threatened to keep quiet. meanwhi meanwhile, stormy daniels is suing mr. trump's personal lawyer for defamation. abby philip is live with more. >> president trump is usually not the one to hold back when it comes to twitter people attacking him. he has held back when it comes to this stormy daniels story. >> president trump a self-declared counter puncher remaining uncharacteristically quiet about his alleged affair with stormy daniels and the effort to cover up the story.

>> you had sex with him? >> yes. >> you were 27, he was 60. were you physically attracted to him? >> no. >> but behind the scenes, the "washington post" reports that the president attacked daniels asking confidants if the episode is hurting his poll numbers and griping that she's not the type of woman he finds attractive. he watched the "60 minutes" interview, didn't think daniels appeared cred i will and has been asking his aides what they thought. >> i'm knot going to get into what he saw. there are clips of it playing all over the morning news shows. >> sources tell cnn that mr. trump knows the stakes and is resisting commenting to avoid making the controversy worse. the president leaving his defense to white house staff. >> the president strongly, clearly and has consistently denied these underlying claims. the only person who has been inconsistent is the one making the claims. >> the president doesn't believe that any of the claims that miss daniels made at the interview are accurate. >> he doesn't believe she was threatened? >> no, he does not.

>> the white house continuing to insist that the president was unaware of the $130,000 paid to daniels days before the election by mr. trump's attorney, michael cohen. >> false charges are settled out of court all the time. this is nothing outside the ordinary. >> daniels' lawyer filing suit against cohen on monday for did he ever mags -- defamation. >> he made statements whereby he basically said that the affair never happened in not so many words and made my client out to be a liar. >> the president kept in touch with the subject of a different controversy. former white house staff secretary rob porter. porter resigned amid allegation that is he physically abused both his ex-wives. the president told some advisers that he hopes porter returns to work in the west wing. although he acknowledges that he probably can't bring him back. >> with all this controversy swirling around this president, we've seen something

interesting. a new cnn poll shows his poll numbers are up about seven points to 42%. that's about as high as it was in the months after he was just elected president. and some indications in the poll numbers show a little bit of why. one. reasons could very well be his standing on the economy. he has a 48% approval rating when it comes to handling the economy. foreign affairs is next up at 39. foreign trade is 38. in gun policy, it's down toward the bottom at 36%. with those march for our lives protesters here in washington, that issue, clearly the president not getting a lot of high marks on. he's touted the economy as the big reason why he's doing so well. right now, chris, the poll numbers seem to indicate that that might be an accurate depiction of what's going on in terms of where the american public sees this presidency. >> it looms large as his biggest and purely positive that we saw in this poll.

he's certainly putting his eggs in the right basket. that's an easter reference. >> i saw that. we've heard from stormy daniels. the question is why have we not heard from the president's personal lawyer, michael cohen, a strong advocate for trump and himself. his attorney will make the case for cohen, next. later, i talk to teenagers, including two from parkland about the gun issue and whether they think this movement will end soon. >> do you feel as though all the students and all of the momentum is a movement or a moment? that's coming up this hour. stay with us. -if you told me a year ago where i'd be right now...

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little bit of hysteria there. the attorney for porn star stormy daniels escalating his battle with michael cohen. the latest turn in this deal, daniels is suing cohen for defamation. joining us is david schwartz friend of michael cohen's as well as his attorney in another matter, not this one. counsel, thank you for taking the opportunity. >> good to see you. >> the first question is an obvious one. as handsome as you are why am i not across from michael cohen? he is an avid, ardent defender of the president and himself. >> he's an avid defender of the president. he's going to handle this case in a court of competent jurisdiction. that's what this is about. he's involved. there are a lot of investigations going on. it's best that he doesn't handle this case on tv. cases are litigated in front of -- >> as great as you are, chris, cases are litigated in front of judges and courts. in this case, both cases are frivolous. >> after not -- avenatti is

playing the court of -- more people watched stormy daniels than after he won the election. are you worried that the resonance is going to create relevance? >> first of all, the "60 minutes" interview, what was that? it was a big thud. yes. he's a master at building up the situation. he's a master at p.r. showed us pictures of videos, of cds, showed us all of this. it's a big thud. what did we learn from that "60 minutes" interview. that 12 years ago some guy came up to her in a parking lot and threatened her. you know, up until that point, he was leading us to believe it was michael cohen that michael cohen was the one threatening. what did we learn from that interview, mierk al cohen didn't make one threat or spoken to stormy daniels. what this guy says is a threat is a complete fiction. i don't know where he's from. but you're from queens, i'm from brooklyn. that ain't a threat where we're

from. where two lawyers speak to each other about a damages clause in a contract and somehow he interprets that as a threat. >> let's look at the different avenues of legale -- exposure for cohen. by saying this is a lie, none of this happened that way, it's defamatory, you hurt her reputation. >> that's not the statement. >> calling her -- >> defamation is a very -- you have to look at the statement itself. what's one of the elements of defamation? a false statement. >> right. >> all he said was, the only statement in question is it doesn't matter whether something is true or not, it can still hurt a person. i will do anything to defend mr. trump. that's the statement at hand. one of the elements that has to be proven is -- >> hold on. she's alleges that cohen has said the way this deal was done and threats that were made that all of those suggestions are lies and that's what they're saying is the truth. so they're saying it's

defamatory. >> the defamatory statement is in that complaint. >> right. >> that case will be dismissed on motions. that case is going nowhere. >> no discover sni. >> no discovery at all. a judge -- on defamation, a judge will look at that statement. it doesn't even pass the smell test. it doesn't come close to defamation. i'm handling a defamation case for michael cohen against buzz feed. there are serious defamatory statements in that case. i hope we talk about that in the future. >> are you acknowledging that he was being defamatory about buzz feed, michael cohen? >> no we're suing. >> i'm handling a legal matter. >> you're going to be one and done here, schwartz. >> please. >> we're suing buzz feed for the fake dossier of all the statements -- >> michael cohen was in russia, michael cohen was doing all these things. i'd like to discuss that case at

another time. >> i've made that invitation to michael as well. whether he wants to discuss those things, he'll have an opportunity for that. >> the other exposure of how this deal went down. stormy daniels, her attorney, cannot bring an action against you for campaign violation. that would have to be the ftc. does he still main than that he paid this $130,000 of his own money and it wasn't done with eyes towards helping the campaign? >> first of all, avenatti is litigating that in his papers? what's his end game? >> you're right, it's a federal elections campaign issue investigation. >> it's ancillary to his theory of the case it was under duress and wrongly. >> bottom line is, $130,000 paid, it's pursuant to a contract, a legal contract. it's to protect reputation. it's to protect business and it's to protect family. it has nothing do with the election. >> timing?

>> timing, all right, that's all speculative and guesswork. but it has nothing to do -- >> it's correlative. it may not be causation. >> you hit t there's no causation. >> i'm saying that's the issue. i'm not saying there's no causation. >> that would be a dangerous precedent because every person running for congress -- >> why -- >> because any business transaction that's done could be considered a campaign contribution. do you realize how dangerous that is -- >> it would have to involve the principal of the candidate in this case and done in a way that seems to motivate the campaign during that time. when he created the llc. i know he says he didn't for this purpose. but whatever. when he created the llc. why did he do this when? >> because this is when it all went down. to create an llc -- >> avenatti says cohen went to here. >> he haavenatti makes no sense.

llcs are created every single day for see owes, lawyers, doctors, politicians to enter into ndos to avoid litigation and save the embarrassment for their family. >> who approached -- >> stormy daniels was shopping the best deal she could shop. some call it hush money. i call it legal extortion. when you have a situation from 12 years ago and all of a sudden you want to collect as much money as possible, that's called -- >> motivations aside, are you saying the way this borkd, the timing matters. that cohen didn't close to the election date seek out stormy daniels and say let's quiet this up right now? >> she admitted on "60 minutes," she was shopping the best deal possible and then her lawyer called it, she said it on "60 minute minutes". her lawyer called her and said this is the best deal. they were shopping it to all kinds of places. >> you're saying her lawyer shopped it to cohen?

>> i'm not speculating on who contacted who first. >> kind of matters. >> it kind of doesn't matter. she was shopping this deal around and let's for argument's sake, let's say michael reached out first. doesn't matter. it's no violation of campaign election. it's not a violation of ftc at all. >> avenatti's big stick he's using in the court of public opinion is cohen is hiding, he won't come out and talk about this, the president told him to be quiet because they have exposure. if he felt good, he would argue them himself. >> you'll see him come out in a big way. who knows? maybe with you. he's been on your show many times. >> he has the opportunity to be tested. >> he will come out in a big way on this case once the facts settle out in court, he will be all over the place and he will absolutely annihilate this guy. >> the other two main components

of this that -- the daniels and avenatti case. one, this wasn't a legitimate agreement and two the damages clause is unconscionable. this million dollars every time they say it, it won't stand up in court and it wasn't a deal because trump didn't sign it. >> the agreement was between eclc and stormy daniels. >> why -- >> there was a contract, consideration, money paid to stormy daniels. rock solid agreement. there was a signature line for dd to give michael cohen the option if he wanted to make dd a party. he chose not to. two parties to a contract. signed, it was a quid pro quo between the two parties. money was paid. she's in violation of this agreement. agreements are agreements. we're gofrd which contracts in this country. when you violate an agreement, which she did, there will be a penalty. >> a million dollars per paneeny is a threat by avenatti.

>> first of all, she had a lawyer. she had a lawyer negotiating a contract. so if michael cohen was speaking to the other lawyer and said, okay, you know, your client is going to be liable for damages, a million dollars per breach, i don't know where this guy is from. i don't know -- that's not a threat. that's something that's enforcement of a damages. >> one other question that's a material fact for people. the $130,000 is an odd number. people keep saying, she and karen mcdougal, the numbers aren't close because of any coordination. they had nothing to do with each other. they were done years apart. where did the amount come from? >> it's part of a negotiation. there's numbers thrown around and they settled on $130,000. it's not that odd. it's really not that odd. it's a negotiation. i've settled on numbers, $127,000. it's the way the negotiations are --

>> usually it's a metric of some type of perceived damages. i'm wondering, it would bolster your case that she was shopping this and this was the number on the table. if that was presented to cohen -- >> she admitted it on tv. she got as much money as she possibly can. she said it. that was the best deal she could get. you know what else she admit to, the to the fact that she entered into a strict contract. remember that language? >> yes. >> she knew she was entering into a contract and knew what the terms were. that was very telling. >> another thing we're trying to get to, her lawyer at the time is saying that this is in his reckoning of how this went down. he needs to be released from his privilege with her. with the confidentiality that he has. avenatti hasn't made that happen yet. it's interesting why he doesn't want that lawyer to speak. appreciate you representing. let your client know, he's always welcome here to be tested. >> he knows and he respects that. >> alisyn. >> president trump ordering the

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russia is blaming the u.s. for pressuring allies to expel more than 100 russian diplomats around the world. president trump ordered the largest ever expulsion of russian diplomats from the u.s. 60 of them. in response to the nerve agent attack in the u.k. on a former russian spy. joining us now to talk about this and more is democratic senator ben cardin of maryland. good morning, senator. >> alisyn, good to be with you. thank you. >> good to have you. what's your response, your reaction to what president trump has done in expelling these diplomats? >> well, it was the right thing to do. it's in response to russia's attack in the uk. the u.s. has shown unity with our nato allies, showed that we will stand up against this type of attack by mr. putin. what's disa pointipt appointing

dwroet acknowledge -- he hasn't used the authority fully. he hasn't asked our european allies to join us in regards to the attack against america. >> how do you explain this? since people say that this is the most aggressive act against russian diplomats ever, he expelled 60, more than president obama ever did. so how do you explain that disconnect between not acknowledging what the intelligence community says russia did during the election and this act? >> i think the president was forced to move on this because of u.k., prime minister may being so strong about what russia did in great britain. we also saw that there are many other countries in europe that are going to join us in expelling russian diplomats. this is a sign of unity within the transatlantic partnership. which is good. it was absolutely the right thing to do. the united states is critically important to show that we stand with europe in our defense

against russia. so it was the right move. it is a clear signal to mr. putin that there will be consequences of his activities. >> okay. next topic. what do you know about this mystery train that has arrived in beijing? is kim jong-un of north korea visiting china? >> we don't know for sure, but it seems likely that he is in china today. clearly, kim jong-un is trying to shore up his relationship with china. it has been rough at times. we know that. there's some problems between north korea and china. clearly, kim jong-un, recognizing that he's going to be negotiating with the united states, wants to get more friends in that region. so it would make sense for him to be in china. >> what do you think it means for president trump's meeting with kim jong-un that's scheduled for may?

>> it could be good news. alisyn, quite frankly for us to have a diplomatic off ramp to this crisis, we need china's participation. so it's not just the united states and north korea. we need china engaged in these discussions. i would hope that the united states is also talking to china to recognize that this is an opportunity for a diplomatic end to the north korean crisis. there's no good military option. i think there's great concern that we make sure that diplomacy can work, it requires preparation. so perhaps north korea is preparing those negotiations by talking to china. we should also be engaged in conversations with china. >> now to domestic policy. let's talk about guns. i know that you marched this past weekend with students from baltimore. can you tell us what's happening behind the scenes in congress in terms of policy to fight gun violence? >> i was so proud of the

students who organized the march on washington and around the entire country. it was an incredible moment. i think we were all energized. the students have been clear that they're not going away and not taking no for an answer. at a minimum, they want to see universal background checks and want to see the military assault weapons off the streets. i agree completely with them. by the way, they don't want to arm teachers in the schools. there's enough guns in the schools already. they've had an impact. we saw in the omnibus appropriation bill that passed, we had two improvements to gun safety. no, they're not enough and the students will not accept that as murky hope will not accept it. i think we're going to continue to hear from them. i hope the republican leadership will bring these issues up for a vote on the house and the senate. i hope there's enough votes to pass it. if not, i'm sure there's going to be activity in this election to get members of congress that will pass these common sense gun safety legislations.

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will vote. >> we'll be looking out how they stand on the gun control issue. that's going to change the way i vote. >> you and julia were at park wha land when this happened. >> park land is wrapped in a bubble and after that shooting, the bubble popped. we don't feel safe anymore. each at the march on saturday, i was looking up an the buildings were really tall. i was wondering could a shooter shoot down from there. >> the same way for me. the one town and the one place you felt you could never be harmed, that's when your life was at risk. you want no other student to experience that ever again. in my mind, the only way to stop that is to take away the gun from the person. >> there's a lot better ways to protect our schools and protect our public areas than just to take away all of the guns. >> so how many of you, show of hands, think there should be more armed guards in schools to protect them? >> partially. but i also think that to an

extent, if you put all of these extra guards, it's going to feel like a prison. >> how do you think you stop someone shooting people? if everyday citizens have the right to carry, could have been stopped altogether. >> even if someone is trained, like officer peterson was at my school. there's no way to simulate an event like this. there's no possible way to practice or do an active shooter drill. he had high capacity magazines, a semiautomatic weapon and killed 17 of my classmates in six minutes. don't tell me a handgun could have stopped that. >> what about the argument, if there were more armed guards, trained, armed guards that could deter and take out a school shooter? >> i'm not saying we can't have the school resource officers, but they need comprehensive training. it's hard to explain how dangerous it feels when i walk into my school. it doesn't matter that there are policemen there. there's no possible way to protect it. why don't we cut it off at the

source and take away the semiautomatic weapons. >> let's go around for solutions and what you would suggest for solutions. >> first a ban on assault rifles altogether. raising the age that you can apply to get a gun. more comprehensive background checks. and mental health screenings. >> when you ban weapons of war and no civilian should have them. >> what about the argument that you hear from people that say if you ban semiautomatic weapons, only the criminals will have them? >> does that mean we shouldn't try? we're having background checks that take on average 30 two minutes at the most. if your pd check is flagged after -- background check is flagged, you can still get the gun. that's ridiculous. >> if you look at the las vegas shooter, he was perfectly legal to get a gun. nobody knew that he was going -- >> exactly. >> that's the issue. >> cut it off at the source. >> how will we defend ourselves

if you take that right away? >> we're human beings first. our lives matter before political parties. >> you don't know any of our political affiliation. you don't know that. >> i'm not attacking you guys personally. i'm attacking the ones that seem to be backing this whole movement. >> this is a student-led movement. that's what it should be. we were the ones who had to hear the gunshots and stared down the barrel of a gun. that's the end of it. no other adult, politician, no one funding money into this. people can donate money. they're not controlling or influencing us. they're influencing every single politician. >> all of you right here are telling me right now, none of them are funding this movement. >> they're donating money and encouraging gun control. standing for what they believe in as well. >> your rights over lives at this point. >> my solution for gun violence is allowing people to have guns.

the more people that are armed, the less shootings there will be. have you ever seen a gun show get shot up? no. you haven't seen that. why? because the guy is -- the guns are the solution, not the problem. >> what would you consider success? because of the movement. >> an assault weapons ban. >> hand guns are perfectly okay. that fits into the second amendment. we don't need people walking around with ar-15s. >> why are you telling people in america you can't open a fwun for your protection. i'm in fear walking around then. >> it doesn't need to be for protection. for hunting, for sport. [ overlapping talking ]. >> this is a tough one. because you guys hear what they're saying. why are you curtailing the rights of responsible gun owners? it feels to them, if they can't have an ar-15 why did they have

to be responsible for what the gunman at parkland did? >> it's not just parkland. >> let's not have harder gun control. >> like what? >> we have background checks that don't say on the screen, i want to go and shoot and commit -- >> let's start with background chicks. you're comfortable with that. universal background checks. >> i don't think that's enough. i think we need to make those smarter. i think we need to -- >> ask more questions? >> yes. >> you're willing to compromise on that. jacob object, anything to compromise on in terms of guns? >> the issue is the politicians on the left are trying to take away the gun rights one by one. it will start with assault rifles and then it will continue until they take every arm in america away from the people. >> so you're pretty much -- you don't see a common ground? >> yopg iti don't think it's go compromise your rights.

>> do you feel as though the students and their momentum and the energy is a movement or a moment? >> it's a moment for the people who only see this as an issue only for parkland. it's only a moment for those not affected and don't see the results in their daily life manifested. the students of color who don't get the air time on tv and are disproportionately affected, this is their lives. it's never -- >> there will be students after parkland. we're going to show up in november, next november until this issue is solved. so chris, what's interesting, what i learned from being down there during the march, for these hundreds of thousands of students activated, this has risen to the top of their list what they will vote on. above health care, above the economy, they say the gun issue is what they'll be looking to see where politicians stand when they vote. >> we'll see. >> yes, we will. >> one, they don't voe.

two -- >> they're motivated now. you saw them raise their hands in general. >> i've been following this a long time. we'll see. everybody should be open to change. every big change in the society has happened because of a populous movement of people deciding to take it. in terms of asking them what their solutions are, that's not as relevant as their seeking out people who will solve it, right? >> sure. >> if we say to voters, your vote is only worth as much as your solution. people vote for all kinds of that's what the nra and gun add kapts have over them. they vote on this and vote where it matters. national election maybe. you've got to look election by election, and in places where some of these views aren't popular. will they galvanize there any way. >> some of these kids are from florida, arizona, places where guns are a big part of the

conversation. tomorrow we bring you part two, which takes a look at how race affects guns. >> that was a big part of the march, they wanted to make it more about these white kids in these schools, get the kids from chicago in there. but when you take the term from mass shootings into the gun violence problem overall, there are a lot of important issues injected. suspicious packages, another story we're telling you about. they were sent to military bases near washington, d.c. what do we know about this? what do authorities say these packages were about? we have a live report from the pentagon next. including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances. most pills only block one. flonase.

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publicly known sites, nothing confidential found out in terms of where to send the packages. but what do we know about the packages themself? >> all of them were sent across the washington, d.c. area yesterday. facilities that are publicly known, not so much with the general public, but you certainly could find them on social media. let's just look at some of the sites here. the cia out of washington, d.c., ft. belvoir, fort mcnair. outside virginia a site called dahlgren. all of this known to the u.s. military, part of the national security infrastructure. the one at fort mcnair perhaps most interesting. we do know it included black powder and some kind of initiator device, enough concern to evacuate the building when they located it. we're told that mail screening procedures of packages coming in

got all of these panel cass, they were all rendered safe. thankfully no one was hurt in any of these instances as far as we have been told. clearly the fbi concerned and looking for whoever may have seen these across washington, d.c. >> very good these screening procedures seem to be working. thank you very much for that report. the office goff government ethics launched an inquiry targeting senior adviser to the president jared kushner. he's, of course, the president's son-in-law. the probe stems from meetings that kushner had at the white house with executives whose companies later loaned the kushner companies more than $500 million. the two companies confirmed they did make these loans to the kushner family business, but they decide there was a mea connection. the woman memorialized in

brown versus the board of education has passed. linda brown's enrollment was blocked. the father sued. four similar cases were combined and went all the way to the supreme court. that was in 1954 when the high court ruled separate educational facilities are inherently unequal, overturning the previous rule of messy versus ferguson of separate but equal. that led to the desegregation of american schools. linda brown was 75 years old, but she will be remembered for a long, long time. we're following a lot of news. what do you say? time to get after it. >> the u.s. and our allies have made clear to russia that actions have consequences. >> you hit them in their pocketbooks, expelling 60

diplomats does not go far enough. >> we will not tolerate russia's continued attempts to flaunt international law and undermine our values. >> this coordinated response is significant, but the president's silence speaks volumes. avenatti and stormy daniels have opened up a lot of political peril. >> the only one inconsistent is the one making the claims. >> i'm tired of being called a liar. >> uncharacteristic of the president to remain silent about something. this is a president that has secrets. you have to believe there are more secrets to come. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning. it's tuesday, march 27th. now 8:00 in the east. guess what? the government of russia is vowing to strike back after nearly two dozen countries expelled russian diplomats around the world in retaliation for the nerve agent attack in the u.k. on a former spy. the kremlin blames president trump for the mounting pressure coming from all these allies and

ordering the largest ever expulsion of russian officials in u.s. history. >> meanwhile, the white house is disputing the porn star's claim she was threatened to keep quiet. now stormy daniels is suing the president's personal lawyer for defamation. this comes as a source tells cnn that president trump is still talking to rob porter. he was the former white house aide who resigned amid allegations that he physically abused his two former wives. let's begin wuhl of our coverage with cnn's michelle kosinski. she has our top story. >> good morning. we're not hearing yet from vladimir putin on this. in return, the trump administration is warning that if russia does e pell u.s. diplomats, as we expect them to do, then the u.s. could well take some additional action. look at the scope of this. this is the biggest mass expulsion of russian diplomats in