we prayed. god raised up a man that we didn't expect and we didn't even like. but he has become our champion in a way no one else has. >> are you practicing some willful blindness to just look at the policies? are you putting behinders on? >> not anymore than the media did overlooking john kennedy, bill clinton. what they did in the oval office is much worse than what is being alleged. plus, we all knew this. >> and you're overlooking it. you all knew it and you're deciding to overlook it. you are saying you are emulating the media. you are deciding to take on that behavior of the willful blindness. >> well, i'm also a journalist so i can do that. but look, this happened a long time ago. >> you think it stopped in 2006.

you feel confident that donald trump did not cheat after 2006? >> in my book i delve into that. i try to explain to the reader why this happened. i believe that he accepted christ. i quote people that say that. i don't know personally if that's true. and i have no evidence. there's no evidence at all that he has cheated in recent years. certainly since he's been in the white house. >> i mean, obviously there are many women who have come forward, the 15 who have come forward to say there was all sorts of misconduct from groping, forcible kissing, sexual assault. do you believe those? >> i want to make clear i don't approve of that in any way, shape or form. i don't approve of stormy daniels in her chosen lifestyle and profession. i have not talked to have the 15 women. i know that i'm donald trump's

friend as much as i can be. even in my book "god and donald trump" he is not a perfect person. it is just grappling with the spiritual issues that brought us to this point and raised this very up likely president that is making huge, huge changes. and i believe in a positive way. everything from trade deficits to tax cuts. we can go on and on. >> you like his policies. i get it. you are author of "god and donald trump." stephen strang, thank you for your perspective. >> thank you, alisyn. thank you to our international viewers. for you cnn talk is next. for our u.s. viewers, "new day" starts right now. >> welcome to your "new day". kim jong-un making a historic visit to china to meet the president there, the dictator's first foreign trip since he came into power in 2011. the intentions are clear. we are in a period of everybody trying to shore up their

relationships ahead of this big anticipated meeting between north korean leader and our president. is that going to happen in the coming weeks? mr. trump tweeting saying there is a good chance that kim will do what is right for his people and he looks forward to meeting with him. also new this morning, stormy daniels's attorney is asking a federal judge to allow him to depose president to find out what he knew about the payment to the porn star just days before the 2016 election. this comes as the white house defends his silence arguing that plenty has already been said and he does not always respond to opponents. we have all of this covered for you. ivan watson is live in seoul with our top story. ivan. >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. it was a secret and surprise is summit of the north korean and chinese leaders. both countries only announced

that it took place after kim jong-un got back to north korea. he traveled to and from beijing on a special training. and xi jinping rolled out the red carpet for his north korean ally. he tied about it being a strategic choice and not letting little things affect those. for his part, kim jong-un raised the question, a possibility of denuclearization, which is crossing a red line that pyongyang indicated in the past. he said that denuclearization would have to depend on cooperation from the u.s. and south korea. well, president trump has tweeted twice about this this morning saying that h looks forward to an upcoming meeting, a historic potential meeting with the north korean leader but said that the sanctions and the maximum pressure that the u.s. has imposed on the north korean

economy must stay in place for the time being. on another front, the u.s. has helped sort out an area of friction with its south korean ally, working through a new version of a trade agreement that goes back to 2012 which would raise the quota on the number of cars that the u.s. can export to south korea from 25,000 up to 50,000. a number of other agreements included there. they talked about currency devaluation. all of this basically, as chris mentioned, to shore up alliances, as north korea goes into an unprecedented level of diplomacy. we are expecting a summit with the south korea president and the north korean leader just next month. chris and alisyn. >> ivan watson, thank you very much for all of that background. joining us now is gordon chang and julie pace. what do you think they accomplished in this meeting? >> well, i think that xi

jinping, one of the good things for president trump to accept the offer of direct talks was it cut the chinese out. during the six is-party talks start anything 2003, china unbalanced using its position at the center of those to pressure the united states and the international community more than pressuring the north koreans. for kim, what he was trying to do is try to get some chinese support as he goes in with moon jae-in, and of course president trump. julie, help us understand the timing of doing a hard line trade deal with south korea, a time when you want to have as close a relationship with them as possible. what's the thinking here? >> well, i think that you can't separate what's happening on the on trade front from what's happening with north korea. there will be some outstanding issues in this trade negotiation

which was started under the obama administration. what i have seen is the u.s. and south korea both just trying to get this out of the way before they led into a meeting between donald trump and the north korean leader. both sides seem to be pleased with where they ended up. it is all part of, again, this idea of shoring up relationships, getting outstanding issues out of the way so that if these talks do move forward that the other side issues are off the table. >> one more political question for you. is this considered a huge win, big win for president trump because he's opened up the south korean market for u.s. automakers? >> i think for trump and his allies it will be seen as a victory. i think sometimes the consequences of these trade deals take sometimes years to figure out. for trump, it is a victory. this is the type of agreement that he has promised that he would seek. it's one on one.

it's not part of a big multilateral trade agreement. he thinks the u.s. can get a better deal. i think he probably will be able to go out and make that case the next couple of months. >> but, gordon, on the facts, south korea is not a big player in our steel market. i think they are less than 10% of our take. we don't sell a lot of cars. we were under our allotment last year. we were allotted 25,000. they are raising that to 50,000. i think we sold just under 10,000. this is a time when you need them in this trilateral situation. >> there are a lot of trade issues and cars is one of them. i don't think that was a big win for the united states because of the reasons that julia mentioned. but there were other issues that the south korea ns were in a predatory manner. i hope those were solved on the free trade agreement.

if they were, this will be a good one. we don't know that until we see the details of the changes in the agreement. something had to be done about south korea's trading practices because they were unfairly prejudicing american companies. so we have to be mindful of the other things that aren't necessarily in the headlines. >> so, gordon, what does all of this mean, all of this landscape, the meeting in china, these trade deals for when president trump meets with kim jong-un reportly in may. >> that's a good question. there are so many things in playwright now. not only the korea talks but trade discussions with china. the restrictions on chinese investments in the tech sector. we see china talking about war in the south china sea and against taiwan. there are so many things that are happening. these issues are colliding with each other. we don't know how they are going to play out. and the risk here is that leaders trump, kim, moon, they

don't know how to deal with this landscape. because soon so many things are happening at the same time. >> so what happens next, julie? how do you think these developments wind up changing the timing of this expected meeting? >> well, the big question remains is this meeting going to happen? you hear from national security officials in the administration some skepticism that this will even go forward. it's interesting that kim had this meeting with xi jinping but hasn't acknowledged he made an offer to meet with trump. they have been is silent on this front. there is skepticism that this meeting will go forward even though trump says he's open to it. he wants to have this meeting. he thinks there could be a positive young from it. that is the super piece of all of these issues. does this meeting come to fruition? >> thank you very much. for all the perspectives. all right. now we are also following breaking news. the lawyer for stormy daniels

seeking to depose president trump and his personal attorney michael cohen about that secrecy agreement for which daniels was paid $130,000 just days before the 2016 election. cnn's abby phillip is live at the white house with more. what are they saying, abby? >> reporter: well, good morning, alley. stormy daniels's lawyer michael avenatti continues to put the pressure on president trump and michael cohen, the president's personal lawyer, on this issue. he is asking to depose president trump in a question and answer session in a court of law. stormy daniels's lawyer, michael avenatti, wants to know what president trump knew about the $130,000 payment to his client days before the 2016 election. avenatti asking the federal judge in california for permission to question the president under oath forum to two hours. >> we're going to prove that mr. co help's statements to the american people are false.

that at all times mr. trump knew about this, knew about the $130,000, was fully aware of it, and with the assistance of mr. cohen, sought to intimidate and put my client under his the thumb. >> reporter: the president's lawyer, michael cohen, said he paid daniels out of his own pocket and that the president knew nothing about the agreement.

>> the president strongly, clearly, and consistently denied these underlying claims. and the only person who has been inconsistent is the one making the claims. >> reporter: it comes as president trump remains silent about the alleged affair. >> the president has addressed this. we've addressed it extensively. there's nothing else to add. sometimes he chooses to engage and punch back and sometimes he doesn't. >> reporter: the current plan is for mr. trump to continue avoiding the topic because the controversy hasn't hurt his poll numbers. avenatti said eight women have come to him with stories similar to daniels. >> we are still exploring their stores. we will be careful and deliberate. >> do you know if any of these eight women also signed confidentiality or hush agreements? >> we understand two of them have. >> reporter: the president's legal troubles mounting healed of a potential interview with special counsel robert mueller. two more lawyers declining to join the administration. >> the president has a highly qualified team with several individuals that have been part

of this process. he has tweeted about north korea. and also this about the second amendment. he said the second amendment will never be repealed as much as democrats would like to see this happen. despite the words yesterday from justice stevens, no way. we need more republicans in 2018 and will always hold the the supreme court. weighing in on an issue so fraught with tension the last several days because of the marches here in washington and around the country. nothing on stormy daniels and this other legal trouble that he is in here, chris. >> another boogeyman that is going to keep any rational discussion from how we stop these shootings. a lot are in a fix over these assaults on his notion of moral behavior. how they are still okay with him even though he may have done these things, including evangelicals. we'll discuss that next. plus, we sit down with teenagers, including survivors

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36% believe the president. evangelicals, however, overwhelmingly still approve of president trump as president. 68%. let's discuss this kind of obvious disconnect between these feelings and this behavior with former republican u.s. senator from pennsylvania and cnn senior political commentator rick s santor santorum. thank you for joining is us, sir. >> good morning, chris. how are you? >> help me understand this apparent hypocrisy by your

evangelical brothers and sisters. they seem to just be choosing policy over piacy. >>s a catholic, we have confession. we go to confess our sins. we probably should go every day. there is a difference in understanding of people are broken, fail, do a lot of bad things. the question is but how do they behave on the issues we have elected them to deal with. they are in fact, choosing. >> i don't know it is that clean cut a distinction, especially for this group of voters. you were in there during the clinton years. this was not what was being said by this voting bloc. you remember you called for clinton to resign because he was going to be impeached and lewinsky was too big a cloud.

when it suits the politics, the piety is great. and when it doesn't, the piety is easily excused. that's hypocrisy. >> that goes on both sides. >> let's talk about this side. they have made this their currency. this is why they are better than i am. their faith comes first. where is it now? >> i disagree. the piety, look at the me too movement. where were they when bill clinton was doing this. let's just be honest about all of this. you're right. the politics seem to trump everything these days. unfortunately that is the case. as you have seen me on this network, i have not been any a poll gist for donald trump's actions when they go out of bounds. >> you're not going out of your way to talk about these affairs the way you did with bill clinton. >> well, i didn't talk about bill clinton's affairs than i did bill clinton. his impeachment was not about

his affairs it was him lying about it. >> i remember. >> i remember too. i was there. the reality is when the president breaks a law, that's a big deal. so the situation that we're dealing with with the president and the investigation in russia. i mean, what seems to be where this is heading is what does the president do after the fact and did he potentially do something that was harmful, not what was the underlying offense. actually how you deal with the investigation is in fact, important and telling the truth to the fbi is something -- >> we'll see what happens here. this president is studiously avoiding to this point any kind of reckoning of the facts. but still, character either counts or it doesn't. let's be very clear about this. i have been covering this stormy daniels's story. from a very definite perspective, the legalities create exposure that we have to monitor and watch.

i'm not monitoring it because it should dominant our official analysis. i don't believe that. i thought you guys were wasting our time about clinton. i wasn't in the business then. i was still a practicing attorney. with people who say they put faith first, character has to count. it always has. we have heard it time and time again. now everything is forgivable. they liken donald trump to king david. is that a good analysis? >> king david was certainly a flawed man. >> what else did king david do that made him acceptable to christians and a fundamental aspect in the bible? psalm 51. it was fundamental to the forgiveness. it was fundamental to the acceptance of what he was as flawed because he knew it and he begged forgiveness and promised to live his life differently going forward. it is in the bible story because it is fundamental to the

reckoning to it. >> contrition was to god not fellow man. that's what evangelicals are looking at. this is between president trump and god. >> isn't that convenient? >> no, it's not convenient. >> they judge things that are between man and god all the time when it suits them. >> we judge actions. we don't judge the person. i think people have been very clear, as i have, the president's actions on many occasions are reprehensible, and i certainly disagree with a lot of things this president does. >> if you put a d next to his name, there will be a lot of loud and proud talking about it. >> the way to binary choice in 2016. >> i get it. but that's still a rationale. >> it is not rationale. two people we both think are flawed on many levels. one i happened to agree with their policies. there wasn't a third choice. >> i hear you. >> a legitimate third choice.

>> to me it smacks of something obvious. that's why i bring it up. let me ask you something else about a different level of examination. i don't think you've been on since this discussion. you know, i always like to give you a chance to answer to your own words. >> i appreciate that. >> you really believe telling these kids in florida you is should go learn cpr was the right way to deal with how -- what they have lived through and what they are asking for now? >> the fact of the matter is i did misspeak in using cpr. it obscured the larger point, which is what we have seen from all of these mass shootings is the things that have come out -- the positive things that have come out are organizations and people who have focused on what we can do in our individual schools and communities to

actually prevent these types of things. like rachel's challenge. or sandy hook's promise. and other organizations that have said what can we do in our community to, you know, promote mentoring, stop bullying, to be more aware of the problems. what i have seen happen here is avoiding the issues that are really actually unified. that's really the most disturbing things. >> it is a distraction from the single metric that distinguishes the united states of america from all other countries when it comes to guns. we have more guns. access to weapons matters. it seems like you and others on your side of the fence are going after the kids who are survivors in the interest of political expedienc expediency. >> if there is anybody going after them for political expediency is certainly not me. >> learn what to do when other people get shot around you.

that's the best we can help you. >> obviously that was not the intention, nor has it been my suggestion throughout the course since these shootings. what i talked about are broader things like mentoring. >> i hear you on that. they are part of the equation. they are just not a main variable. >> i disagree, chris. they are the biggest. if you look at the organizations that have come up from columbine, sandy is hook, they have been effective. they have actually saved lives. and if you look at the facts -- >> you're missing the point, rick. you just are. guns matter. access to the weapons matters. >> and we can have a policy debate on this. >> we actually can't because we are distracted by all of these efforts of attacking the kids, saying they didn't go to the school, likening them to nazis, making fun of young women, lying about what they do. that's what people are your side of the fence are doing.

>> well, right here. i condemn that too. there's politics and hypocrisy on both sides of this debate. and the frustrating thing, and this is what i've been trying to get through, is that there are things that can unify us. when we have an issue of national import, these horrific events at school, we can actually try at times to unite and see what we can do to work together. >> yes. my brother. you have the president of the united states tweeting that the second amendment will never be repealed. who is calling for a repeal of the second amendment? who is calling for it? >> justice stevens did. >> he did not. it was about the fastest route to legal change. of course if you didn't have a second amendment, you wouldn't have heller. it would be easier to change the laws. he's not a politician. he's not in office. he is not the head of any significant group. >> he is a former justice -- >> it is a boogeyman and you

know it. >> there have been boogeymans on both sides. there are things we can see which is demonization. you point to the right. i would point to the left. look at marco rubio. he has been trying to do everything he can to stop these horrific events. >> that's not true. >> that is true. >> that's not true. he's doing negotiations. he's not working on a meaningful restriction is of access. he is trying to do some red flag work. that's all good and fine. but do not put marco rubio as someone at the forefront of the most progressive ways to end these shootings. >> this is the problem that we have here, if you don't agree with you on a particular solution that you agree to, somehow or another, you don't care about this. >> that's your take. >> you can't demonize -- >> i'm not demonizing everybody -- >> yes, you are. >> i'll send you the transcript. you are thinking it in your head

because it's convenient but it's not coming out of my mouth. i'm saying access about who gets weapons and how. is the fundamental question in this situation. okay. it just is. i'm not calling for a weapons ban. i'm not calling for anything. it's up to you and your ilk to figure out the answers. access matters. how we do with the mentally ill, if you're talking about mass shootings, which is ignoring the larger problem of gun violence in this country. that's fine. this matters too. it is a secrete issue. it has to be dealt with. on those two issues, marco rubio sat at the townhall and says he disagrees about certain controls and background checks, but those are fundamental questions. don't put him at the top of the leaderboard about who is trying to make the positive changes. however, it would be unfair to say he is doing nothing. i agree with that. i never said he was doing nothing. he's doing things. but to put him at the head, that's out of convenience. that's not accurate.

>> well, look, again, the idea that marco rubio or anybody who is out there trying to do things to solve these in areas they believe can be the most effective and if you look at it are the most effective -- >> how is it anything other than controlling who gets weapons and how going to be most effective? what is more effective than that? >> create an environment in schools where there isn't bullying, where there is a sensitivity to people who have problems and be able to identify those problems and be able to get proper care to people. there are lots of things we can be doing in our school -- in fact, are being done -- >> in addition to, not exclusive of. that's the whole point. >> i'm not suggesting we shouldn't look to the area of access to guns -- >> do you believe background checks should be extended to all sales. >> background checks are almost all universal as it is. >> they're not. >> number one, it wouldn't have stopped any of the --

>> that's not a rationale for a good law. >> it is a rationale for trying to do something that we know can be effective. the reality is we know these other things are effective. >> knowing who buys weapons is fundamental to this. >> people are breaking laws, chris. they are committing murder. >> they say you have to have better control on who gets weapons and how. 90% of the people. >> i would agree, chris, there is a narrative that somehow or another you can walk into a gun store and buy a gun -- >> that's a false narrative. >> it is not easy -- >> just like we're going t weapons, a confiscation. that is b.s. >> you are trying to tighten up a small loophole. >> i'm saying that any rational thinker who looks at this issue, and guys like you didn't even

want the government studying this problem, didn't want tax money going to it. we don't even look at it with our own damn eyes and resources. it is such obvious political convenience. they say we will change it. we'll see. access matters. there should be a big fact debate on the floor. here's what we know. here's what i'm for these. they're not getting it. your leadership won't put it on the floor. they won't even have an open debate bit. why? >> my point is this is a horrific thing going on in this country and what we should be focused on is trying to unite around solutions we can all agree with. >> agreed. >> and put our shoulder forward.

>> that should be part of the discussion. >> but it's not been part -- and i blame myself. i said that wrong comment on sunday. >> yeah. >> and i got everybody off on a rabbit trail. and i blame myself. >> a lot of people agreed with you. people putting up nazi 6th efef. they're lying. they are creating boogeymen. nobody is calling them out. what do you say to those people who are making the survivors bad people is and say they should shut up, no one should listen to them because they are not going to come up with solutions? >> in the strongest possible terms, i condemn both sides -- >> you sound like trump after charlottesville. >> look, you can't get up there and say that many on the left have not been demonizing as mindless as the nra. it is happening on both side. don't do this charlottesville stuff on me. >> it is charlottesville.

and i'll tell you why. i'm a gun owner. what i'm saying is this. this is the specific instance we're dealing with what they are dealing with these kids. that's the state of playwright now. that's what needs to be called out. don't create a false equation. deal with this and just say my people, people on my political perspective, don't dough did he mondayize the kids. make arguments. don't insult these kids. they have been through enough. >> look, i absolutely agree that the demonization of opponents is wrong. when we do it, it frustrates me more. i actually believe we have the evidence on our side. if we had a discussion on what the evidence is, we win. if we have a discussion on how bad you are because you don't agree with my position, that diverts away from the truth. >> rick santorum, you are always welcome to make your case to the american people. >> thank you. >> and i appreciate you doing so. >> appreciate it, chris.

>> alisyn? >> just one more thing since i have been listening with rapt attention, the bills that rubio is about access. >> people who are mentally ill are statistically much more likely to be victims than perpetrators. >> understood. >> there is a little bit of demonizing. red flag laws are helpful. they are helpful. tim murphy was talking about it all the time. we talked about it as much or more than anybody else. however, however, his distraction as well. how? one, they are not really talking about it. it is behind closed doors because of political interest. that is very specific to the school shootings. you have a much bigger mass shooting outside of schools. >> fair enough. >> when you look at the concentric seurblgs the one

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a historic meeting between china president and kim jong-un. we've been dying to get you on. i want to hear all of your perspective in this area of what will make a difference. so just tell us.

>> thank you, chris. i think it represents in part some of kim jong-un's effort to drive wedges between the u.s. and china. we need to pay a lot of attention to that as well. but on the nuclear side and on the meeting side, if we had an attachment to real diplomacy rather than to virtual television, we should not have allowed the chinese to find out about the president's acceptance of kim jong-un's invitation through an announcement by the south koreans here in the white house. secondly, we should have certainly shaped things as we remember going on. the chinese are an ally here because they have common interest with us. but they don't totally overlap.

but looking at the chinese as a way of looking down the road to the future saying we are very serious about this. >> okay. . it leaves you free of a nuclearized peninsula. >> so do you agree with the overtures that they have wanted to make with kim jong-un. do you like the parallel strategy of cutting a pretty hard line trade deal with the second most important partner here for the u.s. with south korea, what they just announced. do you like those moves? >> of course. i think the president -- he would have set himself back. look at the recent cnn poll. it is a fascinating thing. north kor it is something as i as a diplomat would never have expected to see. but it is important in this particular thing to shape

results. and the president on the south korean trade deal is moving in the right direction. but keeping his eye on china as well. after all, he was the one who said months ago, we'll fix this on our own, implying military force, if you, china, don't fix it. he should have said together we can fix this particular problem and together we want to take into account your concerns but you need to take into account ours. here's what we will do. here's what we want you to do. none of that has happened. diplomacy seems to have been tossed to the winds. >> you have to take it where it lies in the moment. we will see what happens. great to have your perspective now and as we put more pieces in the puzzle. let's switch to russia. the expulsion of all the russian state actors by the trump administration. do you like that response to the nerve agent attack on uk soil, and do you think it is enough? >> i do.

but i don't think it's enough. i don't think it's going to move the russians. i think we are in a wonderful situation here where one side or the other has to come forward by saying this is a way through the constant expulsion of diplomats as a course of action. i was a diplomat. i know how important diplomats are. but the expulsion of diplomats is not going to move this particular process forward. what's going to move this particular process forward is the beginning of an opening. is and we have an objective now. it is very clear and a strategic objective. stop assassinating people in our territory and around the world. we have been accused of doing that ourselves so there is something here that we can put on the table as well. and that's an important way forward. but it is not something that, put it this way, that adds to the avoidance of potential calamity in a relationship with russia where the president's set of activities is clearly going

to make things worse rather than better as we move ahead. russia made really bad mistakes. we need to find a way to stop that. we need to use that as a way to open up a set of activities that can begin to resolve our other problems with russia. they are resolvable, chris, not something that has been cast in concrete never to be resolved. >> understood things can always change. >> yeah. >> are you confused by the president's disposition towards vladimir putin. not this man. no matter what he does, even if he shows a video aiming missiles at florida, the president is often asleep. >> i think the president in his own way, for reasons we don't fully understand but may come out later in the wash, is so to speak, as we watch this, has had a clearly soft spot in his heart

for president putin. if he had a plan and strategy in a way of moving ahead and a way to exploit it, it would be very helpful. but it doesn't. it just seems to be there. that is a question mark over that is important. the second piece here is that the rest of the government seems to be operating on an entirely different track, a demonization of russia. we have a bilateral split not unusual in this administration but something that could have serious consequences if we're not careful in dealing with it and why i say this is a kind of game of chicken in which there's no exit ramp. there is no way off the highway as the two cars race at each other. and that is something we have to look the at. >> u.s. ambassador thomas pickering. you know the politics and the state of play. it is fundamental to our understanding, your perspective. thank you. be well. our panel of future voters. what these teenagers tell us

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teenagers from florida, virginia, arizona and pennsylvania. the conversation quickly veered into a heated debate on the connection of guns and race. >> race affects the way that people live, they eat, where they go to school. all of this is -- they're factors in violence and inner city violence. those students at the march from baltimore, from chicago, until we want to talk about the root causes, the conversation will never be complete. >> well, chicago and baltimore, to my recollection, have some of the strictest gun laws in the country. >> don't you think guns come in from the surrounding states? >> and now -- the left also wants open borders. this allowing illegal guns to flood into the country. >> do you think guns coming in from indiana as police say they do -- >> i don't know where they're coming from. >> i think that's a problem that you don't know where they're coming from. we should know. >> why don't you want to have

good guys with guns to protect you from criminals that are getting their weapons illegally. >> who is carrying out these mass shootings? young, white men. >> you're a racist. >> it's a fact. >> what about omar mateen though? >> there are exceptions to the rule, but school shooters generally are young white men. >> and also pumped up on meds, too. >> we can't solely say it's mental illness. we or arming hate in our country. if we had more armed guards, it would perpetuate the school to prison pipeline. >> how would it do that? >> if you're treated like a criminal, you'll act like a criminal. the way we're socialized in schools as being seen as criminals, as being black bodies, that is going to contribute to your way of life. >> i'm not white, i'm not black, but i'm a person of color. i don't feel comfortable. i'm looking at these cops and i think, do they think i'm up to

something because of the color of my skin? that's how all my friends that are black in my school feel. i don't receive the same air time as some of my friends. it's because i'm not white. >> stop playing the race card. you're racist. you two are racists. >> why can't they talk about their experience? >> we're not allowed to. >> why are you guys attacking white people so much? >> not attacking white people. system systemic -- >> when you have 20% of the population, the entire united states population committing 50% of the homicides, that's not just, you're the victims. that's also your part of the issue. when you have 20% of the race, committing 50% of the violent crimes, that's no longer, okay, well now i'm being affected. that's also playing into culture. >> you just proved my point. structural racism is this vertical violence that affects

the violence we see in urban cities, that disproportionately affects women of color, transgender people of color and people of color in general. >> it's not color. it's about culture, not color. >> students of color are already at risk. >> race doesn't play a factor. >> it does. and people already at risk. >> stop trying to play the race card. >> it's not a race card. you wouldn't understand because you're caucasian. >> how do you know race doesn't play -- >> isn't everyone equal? y >> you don't think black kids in some of these pockets are more at risk -- >> i think we should stop playing racial politics and get to the issue of trying to protect children in schools and to stop gun grabbing. >> this is not only a -- >> you guys are using tactics like race and things of that sort to try to grab guns from

people that rightfully can own them. >> who is saying grab guns? >> we're not trying to get rid of guns. we want to make it harder for someone that is going to shoot up a school get a gun. >> has what happened in parkland changed the trajectory of you future? >> i think when the parkland bubble popped, we became more aware of everything and we realized all the corruption in our system, and if the politicians in place now aren't going to fix them, it's our job to fix them. >> it shouldn't take 17 people to be killed. every single innocent life lost should be shown on the news, should be on the front page. i agree with what you're saying. at the march there were so many students of color who came out of the woodwork and said my brother was shot, my sister shot, family members and friends shot. that shouldn't be swept under the rug. we should show that all these innocent lives are being taken for no reason. >> after we show it, we need to take action and have sustained dialogue, not just give them

their three minutes on stage and rally around them and not go back to their cities and try to help them change things. >> one word on how you're feeling now. however you're feeling after this weekend and where we are today. go ahead. >> energized. >> not safe. >> ready. >> difficult. >> optimistic. >> i'd say hopeful, and hopeful that the future is safer and we can deal with these people accordingly that want to terrorize us. >> obviously these are not easy conversations. if you'd like to share your thoughts or your responses, go to my facebook page. we'll post the panel debate you just watched there as well. historic meeting between north korea and china and president trump's first trade deal with south korea. what impact these have on mr. trump's upcoming summit with kim

jong-un. we discuss all of it next. termites. we're on the move. hey rick, all good? oh yeah, we're good. we're good. terminix. defenders of home.

kim jong-un has made his first visit outside korea since resuming power. >> it gives north korea the support it needs. >> the fact that they're having conversations i don't believe is a bad thing. it's a power play by china. i think they'll use this as leave vag. >> president trump reaching an agreement with south korea to rework a key trade deal. >> it was a deal that was causing a lot of problems for our country. stormy daniels's lawyer wants to question the president of the united states about the agreement to silence his client. >> we've addressed it and there's nothing new to add. >> if he comes out and calls my client a liar, there's going to be serious consequences. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> welcome to your new day. it