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this program. >> the democrats are going to feast on this and say this is an example of a white house that does not know how to lead. >> the white house insisting that outgoing v.a. secretary resigned. there would be no reason for me to resign. i made a commitment. >> it's all smoke and mirrors and distraction to keep you away from the real issues that he's having to deal with. announcer: this is "new day" with krrs and alisyn camerota. good morning, everyone. it is monday april second, 8:00 in the east. chris is off and gym scuitto and john avalon join me. we have breaking news. president trump, tweeting a deal to protect dreamers is dead. the daca deal. the president putting the blame on democrats saying the party did not quote act or care. the president also pushing his border wall in response to a fax news report referring to a caravan of migrants heading towards the u.s. from central
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america. this morning, cnn has new reporting about what's fueling the president's hard line on immigration. >> and this morning former veterans affair secretary david shulkin telling "new day" moments ago that he was, in fact, fired by the president over twitter. the white house still insisting, though, that he resigned somehow setting up a fight over his interim successor. we'll have it all covered. let's begin with kaitlan collins live at the white house this morning with our top story. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. as the president is in there behind me continuing to tweet about the same issues that he started yesterday on easter sunday talking about immigration, the border wall, daca, this morning one of his many tweets saying that daca is dead because democrats didn't care or act and now everyone wants to get on to the daca bandwagon. he goes on to say it no longer works, must build wall and secure our borders with proper border legislation. democrats want no borders, hence drugs and crime.
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now two things i've got to point out there is the president is saying that daca is dead but then he's saying that people are hopping on the daca bandwagon and taking advantage of it and also one thing we should point out is anyone that is crossing the border now illegally is not eligible to qualify for daca and therefore to get that legal status if they did work out a deal to have a -- but these tweets this morning come after a weekend of tweeting from the president where he's declared that daca was dead and even threatened to pull out of nafta if mexico doesn't do more to bolster border security. president trump spending the easter holiday weekend venting about immigration in a series of combative tweets, the president saying he wouldn't make a deal for dreamers claiming that undocumented immigrants are pouring into the u.s. because they want in on the act. >> a lot of people are coming in because they want to take advantage of daca and we're going to have to really see. >> reporter: the president seemingly confused about the parameters of dreamer program.
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he protects undocumented immigrants from deportation if they were brought to the u.s. as children but it only applies to those that have lived in the u.s. since 2007, meaning no one crossing the border now would be eligible. >> they had a great chance. the democrats blew it. >> reporter: president trump also blaming democrats for failing to broker a deal to protect dreamers, despite the fact that it was mr. trump's decision to end the program in the first place. mr. trump's tough talk in stark contrast to these earlier promises. >> very, very tough subject. we're going to deal with daca with heart. this should be a bipartisan bill. a bill of love, truly. it should be a bill of love and we can do that. >> reporter: the president's outburst prompting criticism from members of both parties, including ohio governor john kasich who tweeted, a true leader preserves and offers hope. doesn't take hope from innocent children who call america home. the president also lashing out at mexico threatening to pull out of nafta if mexico doesn't
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curtail the flow of undocumented immigrants. >> mexico has got to help us at the border. they flow right through mexico. they send them to the united states. can't happen that way any more. >> reporter: mr. trump using that argument to again stress the need for his border wall. sources tell cnn that the president's tweet storm came after he had conversations with a number of allies associated with fox news over the weekend who told him that his base believes he's softening on immigration. multiple people pointing to har liner ann coulter's recent media tour calling trump a disappointment. all this as the trump administration continues to insist that ousted veterans affair secretary david shulkin resigned rather than being fired. shulkin denying this claim saying he never submitted a resignation letter. >> i would not resign because i'm committed to making sure this job was seen through to the very end. >> so you were fired? >> i did not resign. >> reporter: if that wasn't enough in white house news, the
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new direct of economic counsel who's replacing gary cohn who resigned recently starts officially here at the white house today and what it day it is with china threatening to retaliate with those $3 billion worth of tariffs on u.s. imports. >> it's only 8:00 a.m., so fasten your seat belt on a monday. so we will check back with you. joining us now is josh green and julie pace. so julie, let's talk about how the president has landed in a place with daca and the dreamers quite different than what he had been saying for months and it seems that something happened over the weekend that changed his feeling and he's now sounding much more hard line about what should happen with the dreamers. ann coulter has come out and been very vo siff russ of how he's disappointing the base and how he needs a wall and "fox and friends" talking point moment where they talked about a
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caravan coming from central america, honduras they think heading north, people ho might be seeking asylum. so watch this that we believe the president also watched. >> an army of migrants is literally marching or riding or making their way from -- from honduras -- >> all of them from central america. the big question is what happens when they do arrive in the u.s. i know they want to seek protection. they won't necessarily get that. >> they'll be arrested. you can't illegally come to the united states. >> will they, though? i don't know. >> what do you think? if there's a small migrant army marching toward the united states peacefully but ants to cross our borders how should it be handled? >> you can hear them casting about. they don't quite know what's happening. they've heard that there might be a van coming north, but shortly after that, the president tweeted, julie. >> it's always one of those
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strange things where you realize that the president actually could find out the answer to that question pretty easily through other means than watching "fox and friends" but he often chooses not to. this is part of a larger dynamic that really is an important thing to remember about this white house. the president is obsessed his base. he is told by people around him that the only way that he could lose reelection, the only way that this core group of people around him will move is if he disappoints them on things like immigration. so he often can get pretty rattled when he hears from people like ann coulter or others that there's movement in the base particularly on this issue of immigration which i really think you can't overstate how important that was to his success. people sometimes put the policies aside when they talk about trump's political success but immigration is something that his supporters really believe in. he is conflating two issues here, the fact that daca is in jeopardy right now is separate
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from any questions about border security. he's conflating two different things but a lot of this is motivated by his nervousness about disappointing his base. >> as so often happens with issues like this we enter a fact-free zone. you got to fact check the president on this. you heard that fox news rhetoric, an army of migrants. it's not an army -- it's a group of folks seeing asylum. the president tweeting there are caravans as if there are multiple people storming the border. that's not true. it's one group. even the fox news commentators noted there they will be arrested at the border. they're not going to climb the wall and jump in, but when speaking to the base, john, do the facts matter? >> facts should matter coming from the president, obviously. the question i think we have is, do we take this tweet, daca is dead literally or seriously? is it a statement of policy or is it just a rhetorical brushback pitch to play to the base? there are two facts we need to
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emphasize here. one is that the president ended daca. that was his action not the democrats. he did it allegedly to open up a broader negotiation that could still be open if he wanted to engage and arrests at the border are down to a 46 year low. you got to go back to 1971 to find fewer arrests at the border. that sense of an epidemic is fueled filled politics. is this a statement of policy or is there still room for negotiation? there are 800,000 dreamers in the cross fire. >> the president's never done negotiating. it's still an open process here. >> i'm sure you would echo that. here's the president's evolution on daca and you can tell us how you think he got here. >> i will immediately terminate president obama's illegal executive order on immigration, immediately. >> it's a very, very tough subject. we'll deal with daca with heart.
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>> there should be a bipartisan bill. this should be a bill of love and we can do that. >> josh, how do you explain today his hard line? >> basically as we saw from that clip, trump has been on every side of this issue and there was a possibility to do a deal. democrats would have been willing to give trump money for his border wall in exchange for legalizing the daca kids. it was trump who decided not to do that because he was worried about blowback from his right wing base. i think the more recent problem with trump and daca has been the omnibus spending bill that trump signed had large increases in spending in almost every area except the border wall and as soon as that legislation was signed trump began to get a light of heat from right wing media, from breitbart news and ann coulter, this is conveyed to him with the dinners he's had at mar-a-lago this weekend. foremost in trump's mind right now is the idea that his base is angry and restless and that they
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might abandon republicans in november and i think that explains why trump has pivoted to a hard line position on daca. >> we just had dr. david shulkin on, formally the head of the v.a. and there's a question about whether he was fired as he said or whether he resigned as the white house said. >> general kelly gave me a heads up that the president would most likely be tweeting out a message in the very near future and i appreciated having that heads up from general kelly. >> so the tweet fired you? >> yes. >> and john, why does this matter, this distinction? >> the tweet -- it matters because it has to do with who would be acting director of the v.a. effecting an organization of more than 350,000 employees and a budget of over 165 million, that matters. what's also stunning is what's old and busted is you're fired. the new hotness is fired by tweet, apparently. >> we're also entering another fact-free zone here.
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you spoke to moments ago the former director of veterans affair, he told you i was fired. the white house still insisting he resigned but there appears to be no factual basis for that. >> he said he didn't submit a letter of resignation and john kelly told him he would be fired by tweet. >> all right. julie, josh, thank you both very much. we'll have more about that revelation from the former secretary of veterans affair about how he was fired. we have a republican congress on the veterans affairs committee who's going to react to this news next. how do you win at business?
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president trump continuing his tirade on immigration with this new tweet. daca is dead because the democrats did not care or act and now everyone wants to get on to the daca bandwagon. no longer works. must build wall and secure our borders with proper border legislation. democrats want no borders, hence drugs and crime. joining us now is republican congressman charlie dent of pennsylvania. he's the chairman of the house subcommittee on veterans affairs. good morning, congressman. >> good morning. great to be with you. >> how do you think the president has landed at this hard line on daca and the dreamers after saying he wants to treat them with love? >> i'm not sure how he landed there but there are several daca proposals out there that tie daca to border kurt. i've asked the house leadership queen of the hill.
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allow each one of those bills to be considered on the house floor and whichever one passes is the one that is sent to the senate. pretty straightforward and then we should send the bill to the president and i hope he signs it but make him decide. we can easily accomplish this goal. there are some democrats to be sure who want the issue more than the solution. i certainly acknowledge that. i believe there are enough people on both sides of the aisle who will work in good faith to get a real solution to the president's desk. >> do you think it's the democrats fault that daca is dead? >> i don't want to cast blame on any one particular group. i think a lot of people are drawing lines in the sand. leadership the house leadership is said they don't want a bill on the house floor that will not receive a majority of the majority of the house. i do believe there are 218 votes for a daca bill. that said, there's a lot of land to go around here. we should have a debate, put these proposals on the floor and see which one passes and send it to the president and make him choose.
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>> a couple of interesting things happened over the weekend and it's always interesting to try to retrace where the president -- what the genesis of his ideas or even policy are. so ann coulter was quoted as basically saying that the president totally caved in the omnibus -- by signing the omnibus spending without money for the border wall, she, who personifies his base, is leaving him and is quite disappointed. here's a graphic of people that he dined with or hung out with at mar-a-lago, janine peero, sean hannity, don king, mike len dell who owns my pillow, i'm not sure how he feels about daca but i do know the first two are pretty hardline on immigration. so do you think that that's what influenced him? >> well, hard to say what influenced him. i supported the omnibus spending bill. i was responsible for 92 and a
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half billion dollars worth of it. that said, we -- we did exactly what president trump and his administration wanted on defense. they wanted a robust increase, $700 billion for the department of defense. this is a very big win for the administration. got exactly what they asked for. so -- >> the president said he couldn't stand that bill, you know? >> well, he was part of the budget agreement that set the framework out and his administration was part of the negotiation. >> he thought it was a lousy bill and he'll never sign another thing like that he said? >> his secretary of defense is very happy about this situation. we did exactly pretty much what jim mattis wanted us to do. it's hard to say on wunt the hand they appreciate what we've done and saying that's a terrible bill. that doesn't bode well for the future of these communications. i'd rather not do omnibuses either. the nature of the u.s. senate
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doesn't allow us to do that. the senate the can't move appropriations bill quickly so we can't negotiate them one off. but for the administration to say that the president to say accident like this bill, then he should blame some of his own people because they negotiated this with us. we provided a 10% increase for the v.a. in this budget. >> let's talk about the v.a. as you know -- do you think that dr. shulkin was fired or resigned? >> oh, i believe he was pushed out. i believe he was pushed out. i've dealt quite a bit with secretary shulkin. he's a very fine man and capable administrator. he was pushed out. >> if he was pushed out that means that the white house is breaking protocol, there's a law that if he's fired, if the secretary's fired, his deputy must replace him but that's not what's happening? >> well, not sure about that. i want to give secretary shulkin some credit here. i've worked with him. he's helped reduce backlogs. he has taken us down the road
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toward an integrated health record between the v.a. and the department of defense. we're making progress on that front. more veterans are being able to access care outside the v.a. system through choice, about 36%. so we made some progress and i really enjoyed working with him. he's a capable administrator. he's from pennsylvania. lived about 45 miles from me and he's well-known and well respected and he'll be difficult to replace. >> well, he says and he just told us a moment ago that not only was he fired, he was fired by tweet, so listen to this. >> general kelly gave me a heads up that the president would most likely be tweeting out a message in the very fear future and i appreciated having that heads up from general kelly. >> so the tweet fired you? >> yes. >> and what do you think this means for the future not that he was fired by tweet about you the fact that he didn't want privacization? what do you think this means for the future of the v.a.,
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congressman? >> i think really the issue -- the policy issue that probably got secretary shulkin in hot water was this, i believe we need the better integrate the veterans health system with a civilian health system. secretary shulkin through choice was doing that. now the question might be the pace of that integration. i happen to believe that the v.a. needs to be a little bit less a direct provider of care and more of a coordinator and manager of care. veterans where i live in allentown, pennsylvania, want to be cared for in the communities where they live. they don't like be schlepped up to wilkes-barre, pennsylvania, when they can get that done in their communities. there's a sustainability question too. on the one hand we're trying to build all this infrastructure and capacity in the v.a. system and we're trying to provide choice outside the system. we're going to have to pick a path. the sustainability of this is in question. over the long-term we must pick a path. i happen to like the choice path.
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veterans should have access to the greatest health care institutions in the world in their communities. too often they are denied that unless they are admitted on an emergency basis. we educated our veterans through the civilian system of higher education. we called it the g.i. bill. it worked great. >> always appreciate talking to you. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> john, your thoughts? >> charlie dent is one of these old-school republicans and it's a shame he's retiring. the party is moved toward donald trump and away from guys like charlie dent. you can hear from that interview that he's someone who still believes in governing over grand standing and he made the point that shulkin was trying to find a middle path with regard to more choice for people in the system, but not as fast as some folks on the far right you might like. >> he was willing to contradict in the president on two points. it was clear he was pushed out. that shulkin was fired just as he told you. you might want to believe him as opposed to what the white house is claiming now that he resigned
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but also on the issue of daca. let's get them to a vote on the hill and make the president decide seeming to indicate there that it's the president who's been wishy-washy on this. bring a deal and let him decide. >> it's hard to know today given all the tweets what the president's position is on dreamers and daca but we'll continue to report that, jim? >> president trump is blaming democrats declaring daca is dead. we'll talk with a democratic congressman about his response to that. i'm guessing it might be different. please stay with us. a family of seven technology leaders working behind the scenes to make the impossible... reality. we're helping to give cars the power to read your mind from anywhere... and we're helping up to 40% of the nation's donated blood supply to be redirected to the people that need it most. magic can't make digital transformation happen... but we can.
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a cockroach can survive heresubmerged ttle guy. underwater for 30 minutes. wow. yeah. not getting in today. terminix. defenders of home. and welcome back this morning. president trump declaring that he's done working with the democrats to find a solution for dreamers. the president tweeting in part this morning, quote, daca is dead because the democrats didn't care or act and just moments ago white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders had this to say. >> the president made multiple offers on daca. he wanted to see something get done and democrats refused to actually put something on the table or work with the president to get anything done. they wanted to use daca
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recipients as political paunz. i think it's because we're getting close to an election. they don't want to see the president continue to win like he has for the last year and a half and they're going to do everything they can, even if it means hurting people across this country if they think that it takes a hit at the president. >> joining me now is democratic congressman john garamendi is a member of the armed services committee. >> good to be here. >> you heard sarah huckabee sanders there like the president saying it's your fault, the democrats did not want to deal on this. was your reaction? >> give me a break. give me a break. what is this guy doing? what is she doing? there are certain facts, certain things that are well-known. the daca program was in place. there was a question about its legality. that's a court issue. what did the president do? he promised during his campaign two things, one he would terminate daca. he did that. he created this crisis. he created this problem all by himself. it wasn't something that needed
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to be done. maybe the court's would have ruled overtime that it had to be changed. okay. that could have happened. he terminated the program. next, with regard to the negotiations, we have been negotiating with this president. he's the one that put the border wall up as leverage on daca. you won't get daca until the president gets his big, beautiful border wall. we actually offered a pile of money for the border wall and he turned it down. that was back in january. so the facts are there. reality is, it is a problem that was created by this president. it's a problem that he is using these daca people as leverage to get his border wall. the fact of the matter, his border wall doesn't make us more secure. much it wastes a pile of money and now he wants to take the money out of military -- this is crazy. >> you said you offered money for the wall but you're saying that it doesn't make the country any safer.
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>> well, that was the negotiation back that senator schumer offered a pile of money for the border wall in exchange for daca and he turned it down. >> would you be willing to vote for something, would you be willing to vote for more money for the wall to get through legislation protecting the 800,000 or so dreamers? >> we offered that. we said we would be willing to do that. let's look at the details of the deal. what's he talking about here? if you want to protect all of this you need a comprehensive immigration reform that actually was a bipartisan bill that was passed the senate about five years ago, the house of representatives, speaker boehner and the republicans wouldn't even take it up for a hearing. so we got ourselves a real mess here, one that needs to be resolved and to hold these students -- come on, give me a break. his tweet this morning. these people are coming across the border so they can be become daca.
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daca you had to be in the united states before 2007. give me a break, mr. president. could you at least be accurate? >> let me ask you this, there is -- i'm curious as a democrat. whether you are concerned that the president's stances are working. cnn did a poll just a couple of months ago, the generic ballot in the 2018 race, democrats had a 16-point lead, now it's down to six points. that's about a third of the lead you had just a couple months ago and what are we seven months out from the election. are you concerned that rhetorically, politically you're losing this battle with the president? >> what i'm concerned about is what's happening to this nation. that's my concern. my concern is about these 700 or more than a million young people that are trapped in this vice that the president has put them in. i'm concerned about border security. i'm concerned about the coast guard being underfunded. the fact of the matter is, the
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coast guard confiscated 200 tons of contraband, heroin and so forth at the border, they collected 20 tons, so if you want to go where the problem is fund the coast guard. if you want to deal with these issue -- >> if you're concerned that you're going to lose the house based on where these polling trends are going? >> the democrats are concerned about public policy. we want a better way to deal with these issues, a better plan. we want to comprehensive immigration reform. we want a transportation, infrastructure program that is actually funded, that doesn't reverse the burden and put it back on the small communities that couldn't even beginning to afford a sanitation system or transportation system. we want to make sure that the military is not only well funded, but is able to operate smart and effectively around the world. we want a policy internationally that is effective, not the
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headlighter skelter policy we now see in syria with this president. we've won the war against isis. yes, we've pushed them out but we have not one the ideological war and syria is an unholy mess now with iran and russia and others involved. we want to have some rational policies and we're going to continue to put those forward as we do so, i think the public will look to the democrats as a balance against in crazy president. >> let me ask you about an issue close to home for you. sacramento in your district, the unrest following the police shooting of stephon clark over the weekend. do you see a way out for this? >> it was a tragedy, an unnecessary shooting. there is a way out and just 20 miles to the west we have a new police chief that's been there for a couple of years. his instituted very significant training for his men and women
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on the force. crime is down. shootings are down. sacramento has a very good city council, a good mayor who cares deeply about these things and i think out of this tragedy will come a much better police force in sacramento with much better training and also much more community policing. all of those things are necessary and do keep in mind that the president in his budget tried to remove or significantly diminish the cop's program which provides federal support to police agencies all around this country. and so sacramento will come out of this in a better situation, but it is tragic and one thing that i do not understand is why police shoot to kill. it doesn't seem to me to be necessary and that's a training issue that i think has to be put into this whole mix. so yes, sacramento is very, very seriously concerned about this. i understand why people are in the street and rightfully so. peacefully so. >> such a familiar tragedy, no
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question for a number of communities around the country. congressman, thanks very much for joining us this morning. >> thank you. ending on that note we have the alt-on sterling coming up the baton rouge where he was shot and killed. >> without any -- the cop -- one police officer was fired the other suspended but no legal recourse. >> administrative penalties but not very rarely do the police end up in court and there's reasons for that. it's a tough job and a dangerous job. >> we'll get into all of that. thousands of teachers are expected to walkout today as they push for more pay and better school funding next.
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tens of thousands of teachers converging on the state capitols in oklahoma and kentucky today. what do they want? cnn's bill weir is live in oklahoma city with more. what's the scene? >> reporter: it's interesting. this is another red state teacher revolt spreading from west virginia, alisyn, here to oklahoma, rumbling in kentucky and arizona. last week. lawmakers do what they never do
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in oklahoma, they raised taxes, for the first time in 30 years to give teachers a fraction of their demands but they say it is not enough. it has been too long. the cuts are too deep and they're tired of living like this. >> drum roll. >> reporter: for donna ross the goal is to fill her classroom with such energy that the kids never suspect that she works two other jobs to survive. >> i've been up since 5:00 this morning. >> reporter: she drives for uber and caters weddings because a master's degree and 20 years experience barely brings a living wage in oklahoma. >> you can see where my net pay was less than 1,200. i was being liberal. >> reporter: you're just over $1,000. >> correct. >> reporter: and that's for -- >> that's a month. >> reporter: the most desperate sell blood and some like this former marine and special ed teacher rely on church soup
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kitchens to eat. >> i help at food banks. i've helped deliver foods and do all those things. i honestly never thought i would be on the receiving end. i have to swallow my pride a lot and i hate asking for help. >> reporter: this state has long been the state with the deepest cuts to education. >> 55 united. >> reporter: but something about the west virginia strike helped turn oklahoma anger to action. >> i typed in oklahoma walkout and nothing popped up and why not be the guy that makes the group and now it has about 72,000 people. >> reporter: and it started with you sending it to a couple teacher friends and they started inviting other teacher friends and it exploded. >> you don't get -- you don't get 72,000 people in the group in three weeks if there's not a problem. >> reporter: just the threat of a walkout was enough to force the first new taxes here in 28 years, enough to give teachers and ang raise of 6,000 bucks but it is a fraction of their demand. so they're still walking but for
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how long? and how will this effect arizona where teachers there are staging the next red state revolt? the difference between a strike and a walkout is you're not defying the school. the superintendent is behind you but could it turn into a strike if things got nasty? >> a lot of the superintendents say they support teachers and support what teachers want to do. i feel like sngs teachers want to stay out to fight for what we're fighting for, i think they'll be lots of support. >> reporter: teachers are not the only frustrated servants in oklahoma. state troopers have to ration gasolines, prisons are overcrowded, social workers are strapped but oil drillers and gasse gas frackers enjoy the most sweetest subsidies. >> our light bulbs were every other light bulb in the building. >> reporter: classes are crowded. they're on a four day week and the math teacher mows lawns. >> we do better at this than we
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do at the school teaching as far as the money goes. >> reporter: is that right? you make more cutting lawns? >> yes. >> reporter: do you service the lawns of your students? >> yes, every now and then we will. >> i know that -- >> reporter: similar reality for ms. ross who would like to do more teaching than driving and was spotted waiting tables by one of our fourth graders and was mortified. >> he just said that ms. ross, you really work hard, you work a lot of places, don't you? he said you must be rich and i said i sure am. >> reporter: she is rich in emotion. these teachers used to getting paid in hugs and dollars and that's an advantage for the other side. they know that the longer this goes on the more guilt they'll be about the kids, they got concerts and recitals and they
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want to go back to the well, the oil well, oil frackers and drillers, they pay the lowest in any state in the union, teachers want more, john. we'll see who wins this one. >> powerful story, thank you. right now thousands of kids are filling the south lawn of the white house for the 140th easter egg roll. got cnn's kate bennett live at the white house with the latest. >> reporter: hi, guys. that's right. we've got 30,000 people expected today. it is chilly out here at the white house, unfortunately, not quite the weather we were hoping for. people are bundled up. kids are going through the easter egg roll. they're hanging out at the reading nook where later we'll see the president and first lady, and a bunch of activities going on. we are going to hear from president trump and melania trump and the easter bunny will be behind me around 10:30 this morning in just a little bit. this is melania trump's sort of first full time easter egg roll
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now that she's living in the white house. last year she wasn't living here full time so this is very much her signature event. the kids are here today. i've managed to get my hands on a special treat today. this is one of the golden wooden eggs. all the kids will get this in their gift bags as they leave today as part of their celebration at the 140th white house easter egg roll. back to you guys. >> kate bennett there from a happy moment there to really a difficult one. a tough one. baton rouge police releasing raw new body cam footage in the shooting death of alton sterling. that's him there. this after state officials decided not to charge either officer involved. his aunt will join us live right after this. with rich flavors of uganda, sumatra, colombia and other parts of south america. like these mountains, each amazing on their own. but together? magical. all, for a smoother tasting cup of coffee. green mountain coffee roasters. ♪
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we want to warn you the video is graphic. here it is. >> excuse me, ma'am. put your hands on that car real quick. >> stop, stop. >> what you talking about? >> put your hands on the car -- >> that is just a portion of the body cam, footage. police officer blane salamoni one of the two officers involved. he was fired. the other officer was suspended. this is the first time since the shooting that members of sterling's family were able to watch several of the graphic videos perform that deadly confrontation. joining us now is sterling's aunt. thank you very much for being with us. had you seen that video before now? >> i had not seen the video. i would see a video at 7:00 today with one of our doctors.
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>> so police release -- you've heard the video and do alton -- does your whole family want to see those videos? >> the whole family has seen the videos, but i'm the only one i think that hasn't seen the video. my heart won't allow me so-to-see the video without my doctor being there. >> i'm so sorry to hear that. i can see how upset you are by all of this. what -- has hearing that the officers will not be charged, has that reopened the pain for you? >> it has. i don't understand how you can kill a man in cold blood and still have your job and still get our taxpayer dollars to take care of your family when you've destroyed mine. they destroyed our family. >> officer salamoni was fired
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over this. is that any comfort? >> no, it's not. none at all. none at all. my family want justice for their murdering alton. the attorney general said that they find no-fault. they didn't see anything that the police officers did wrong, so did the fbi. my family need justice for what these two police officers did. they murdered alton in cold blood. and we demand justice. >> here's what the feds say the reason they did not file the charges. here's the graphic. the officers' actions reason reasonable under the circumstances. it's not clear that sterling was not reaching for a gun. sterling continued to move after he was shot. there's not enough proof that the officers' acted intentionally. what's your reaction? >> i say that from the beginning of this it was already decided that there was not going to file
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any charges or do anything to these two police officers and nothing is still being done to them. i don't know what and why they can't see what the world see. >> did alton have a gun? >> no. >> because police say that they found a gun at the scene. >> no. alton didn't have a gun. he had a flip phone. that's what he had. >> i mean when you watch the videos -- >> the government flip phone. >> because they say that they found a gun at the scene and what -- when you watch the videos, it does sound as though the officers escalated very quickly. officer salamoni shows up and within just seconds he's pulling his own gun and he's -- based on the videos, obviously, i wasn't there but his voice escalates --
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>> yeah. salamoni always had his weapon drawn when he got out of the car. salamoni came out to kill somebody and that's exactly what he did. he came out with intentions to kill him a black man and that's what he did. >> we can see how upset you are. we're very sorry for your family. we appreciate that this didn't end the way that you all wanted to in terms of charges being filed. we will check back. >> it's still not over. >> and what's the next move? >> the next move is a nationwide boycott. >> of what? >> and that's -- boycott the mall of louisiana, boycott everything, the gas pumps, boycott because we're the majority and we take our dollars out, we'll get some justice for alton. >> we'll be watching what happens there. obviously we've seen the protests as well. thank you very much for being on with us. >> you're more than welcome.
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good morning. i'm ana cabrera in today for john and poppy. great to have you with us. the president who lashed out at immigrants, democrats, mexico and border walls is lashing out yet again at immigrants, democrats, mexico and u.s. border laws. day two of a tweet storm that may have been triggered by fox news coverage of an immigrant
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caravan in mexico includes this, quote, daca is dead because the democrats didn't care to act and now everyone wants to get in on to the daca ban wagon. no longer works. must build wall and secure our borders with proper border legislation. democrats want no borders, hence drugs and crime. we may hear more when the president speaks next hour at an event that for 139 years has been nonpartisan and apolitical. the white house easter egg roll. let's check in with cnn's white house reporter kaitlan collins. >> reporter: the president is on a roll of his own this morning, continuing that tweet storm from yesterday after a few days of relatively silence from the president continuing to talk about daca more this morning. he seems to be confusing the issue some. he's talking about people crossing the border now to take advantage of daca but, of course they would not even be eligible for it. but separately aside from that fact, the president is also using much different language than what
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