read, she egged on. before the president wet his whistle, he checked. what big ears you have mr. president, all the better to ignore the president. jeanne moos, cnn. , new york. thank you for joining us, "ac 360" starts now. we begin tonight keeping them honest with what president trump did on his easter vacation. he tweeted and it is being seen as the company he is keeping. after a weekend in mar-a-lago. he had plenty to tweet about. attacking the news media except for fox news and sinclair

broadcast group. he also attacked amazon and his own justice department putting the word justice in scare quotes. he attacked democrats for not wanting any border. he attacked mexico for not enforcing their own immigration laws. and a string of tweets on daca kids. he rescinded the program protecting them. since then he promised to deal with these so-called dreamers in quote great heart. >> should be a bill of love, truly. it should be a bill of love and we can do that. >> in the three months that followed, the president has sought to tie legislation on their feet to fund the border wall. the president has been all over the map on this one.

right now it seems he is in a hard line place. he began with a tweet. border patrol cannot do their jobs at the border because of ridiculous liberal laws like catch and release. in fairness, that was his second tweet of the day. the first one said happy easter. terms you might not be familiar with. first catch and release is not actually law. democrat or republican. it is a practice on releasing noncriminals and daca immigrants. caravans are groups of migrants fleeing. the nuclear option is getting rid of the filibuster in the

senate. so with that out of the way, here is the next tweet on easter morning, mexico is doing very little if not nothing, at stopping people from flowing into mexico through the southern border and then into the u.s. they laugh at our dumb immigration laws. the president followed that a few minutes later with this. big flows of people are taking advantage of daca they want in on the act. four more tweets, the president said this about daca kids. >> the democrats have really let them down. they have let them down. they had this great opportunity. the democrats have really led them down it is a shame and now people are taking advantage of daca and that is a shame. it should have never happened. >> keeping him honest what the president neglects to say is his own executive action rescinding

the program. >> this group comes back hopefully with an agreement. this group and others from the senate and the house comes back with an agreement. i am signing it. i will be signing it. i have a lot of confidence in the people of this room that you are going to come up with something really good. >> so in the space of a little less than three months, the president has gone from eager to sign just about anything to a twitter rapt on just about everything. an in factual rant. it is hard to see what ending the filibuster has to do with

anything except perhaps to reflect the views of his harder line advisers. so sad that the department of justice and the fbi are slow walking or even not giving the unredacted documents. he said this. so funny to watch fake news networks. criticizing sinclair broadcasting for being biased. the president also attacked amazon. apparently because jeff bezos also owns the "washington post." he mentioned what an honor it was to host the easter egg roll. from pamela brown who joins us from the white house tonight. do we know why the president is in attack mode? >> reporter: we are told by sources that he is feeling the heat when it comes to

immigration. as you pointed out, he spent a three-day weekend in mara large reminding the president that the midterms are coming up. on top of the vocal criticism from ann coulter. we are told that the president was already frustrated that there has been a lack of progress in his view in building the border wall. all of this was exacerbated with the reports on fox news with the caravans coming.

it isn't just on the immigration issue as you pointed out. it is a myriad of topics the president is touching on. amazon, nafta, mexico. some may say he has lost some of his moderating forces in the white house including hope hicks former communication director who left last week and this is the first week the president was without her by his side. even when she was here, he still went through these fits of fury. at the bottom line here is this is the president being the president. >> it is obviously not the first time that the president has gone after multiple groups in just one day. >> reporter: absolutely. i mean, if you look at his twitter feed, it appears that

the primary pruurpose, is to go after people, to go after groups. it is his outlet, for him, the way he communicates with people in the outside world which makes it more curious when he doesn't go after people or groups that you think he would go after. such as slvladimir putin or stoy daniels. >> pam brown, appreciate it. thanks very much. some perspective from ryan liza as well as molly ball. ryan, should anyone be surprised at this point that the president goes to mar-a-lago. >> we shouldn't be surprised. this is trump being trump.

this is someone in his seventies is not going to change and this, the accumulation of the staffing changes at the white house have been to, you know, take off some of the guard rails, some of the restraints that he previously had. let's be honest, it is not like he had serious guard rails or restraints previously. he loves this platform or the fact that any thought that pops into his head can be immediately disseminated to his people and he is very easily worked up on certain issues especially immigration. worked up about the omnibus bill that he claims didn't want to sign and had no funding for this number one priority, this wall. the funding said could not be used for anything except see-through fencing.

so easily worked up on the circulating media right now. so this is classic trump. we are going to be having this same conversation a year from assuming he is still in offeric. this is who he is. >> molly, i wonder how worried he is about the base. we are going to talk later. that he is getting this message that he needs to be fearful of getting soft in immigration. do you think there is truth to that, people in your base are starting to wonder where you are in immigration. >> that is clearly the message he is getting from somewhere. and you know see it popping up here and there in conservative media which is interesting because up to this point,

conservative media has been an a amen chorus. so it is very interesting to see conservative media holding trump accountable for some of his promising particularly on immigration which was such a signature issue. it is hard to blame him for being frustrated. in his view to the trump base. and seo you see him getting restless and wanting to do tariffs and something about immigration. and having fewer moderating influences around him. and we in washington know that congress doesn't do anything in even number of years. but if you are joe six pack, that doesn't make sense. that is stupid. why can't the congress keep going. part of that, you can't blame

trump for being annoyed. >> yeah, ryan, i guess the bigger question is whether the president understands like what daca is. he says big flows are trying to get in to u.s. to get in on the act. and that doesn't apply. he tweeted out a picture of fencing on the border that he says is the beginning of building the wall when we went down there and it is just rehabbing basic fencing that was put up in the bush administration. >> in the omnibus, there wasn't any money for his wall. it specifically said not allowed to be built. his tweets are hodgepodge for facts and fiction about immigration policy. you know, sometimes he talks about mexico having this tough immigration policy which it actually does.

2014 they changed the law in mexico because of the crisis on the southern border and aggressive about deporting people from central america something that trump sometimes points out. now he is arguing that they are letting all of these people through. couple of points on daca, one, of course president trump ended the program. it doesn't exist right now. and even if it did exist, it would not mean necessarily that anybody crossing the border would be eligible for it. and he made this point that if he had 51 votes in the senate that he could pass what he wanted on immigration. and that is not true either. that is not quite right either. so a lot of errors in his tweet over the weekend today. >> thanks very much. the president just tweeted again, and more on that next. also hear from a former white house chief of staff who has

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days off and we try to unplug. the president lets his tweet flag fly. he just tweeted again, as ridiculous as it sounds the laws of our country do not allow us to send those crossing our southern border back where they came from. a whole big wasted procedure must take place. then this came later, honduras, mexico and many other countries that the u.s. is very generous to sends many of their people to our country through our weak immigration policies. we are talking about what it might means and what it says who the president might be listening to and who is not anymore including chief of staff john kelly. we have learned that kelly has

little to do these things. leon panetta has a unique perspective on this. >> where do you think daca stands right now given the president's tweets this weekend declaring daca dead and blaming the democrats. >> i don't think the president's rationale is working at all with the american people certainly with latinos and more importantly with the congress. the president is the one who got rid of the daca program and created this crisis. he has failed to be able to work out any kind of approach on capital hill that was acceptable to him to try to fix the situation and now he is standing back and basically blaming everybody else for the problem and i don't think it is working. >> you now have a situation where it seems like, you know, people still read the president's tweet and reporters

report on them, but it doesn't seem like anybody on capitol hill pays them any attention. is that your impression as well? >> yeah, i don't think there is any question that one of the things that has happened over the course of these last many months of this administration is that the congress has gotten to the point where it simply doesn't take the president's tweets in particular with any degree of credibility. they have experienced a president who says one thing one day and says something else the next day. they know better than to take any action based on what he is urging because in the end, they are not sure whether he will stick to it. so they basically keep quiet and do what they have to do without responding in any way to what the president is saying. >> these tweets obviously came after, you know, he was at mara

largo. and he was with his chief of staff. do you think that kelly was not with the president while all of this happened? >> it was not a good situation in the white house. we have known that for a while. but the reality is that the whole purpose of a chief of staff is to be able to work with the president to have a trusting relationship with the president. and to be able to at least provide some degree of discipline with regards to how that president presents his positions to the country. not being there in mar-a-lago and having a group of individuals visit mar-a-lago that look like the bar scene from star wars and then for him to start tweeting based on that kind of conversation is just, i think, another reflection of the chaos that this president engages in as president. >> you are talking about the bar

scene in star wars, i wasn't going to quite putting it like that, but you have steven miller, sean hannity, the bright lights of fox news. don king who is really, i don't need to describe don king other than he stomped someone to death once. how unusual is it for the president to echo those around him than set an agenda himself. it is normal to have people to have like minds around them. but it is interesting the extent to not only watching fox news but consulting with these people. >> i think what we all have to do is remind ourselves of how presidents have always acted in the past whether they were republicans or democrats. normally, presidents of course

they want to meet with people that are friendly to them and most presidents have done that. but when it comes to policy, when it comes to pronouncements by the president of the united states, normally, what every president i've known has done is to engage his chief of staff and the responsible staff in the white house or military leaders depending on what the issue is to sit down and have a policy discussion in which they arrive at a decision by the president and then they develop a process for presenting that decision to the american people. this is the only president i've ever known who is basically thrown that whole process out the window. >> it is interesting, i remember back from the start of the administration you raising concerns about the make up of the white house, the weakness of the chief of staff. how people didn't have individual lanes of authority.

people could wander in and out of the oval office. several advisers have told him he doesn't need a chief of staff or communication director. what kind of an impact would it have if he eliminated those positions. >> in many ways it feels like that is the case right now, even with john kelly chief of staff, this president goes off and does whatever he wants to do. tweets whatever he wants to say and conducts policy by his tweets. and so you very much have a situation in which a president of the united states is basically out there kind of operating on his own. now most presidents usually have a support system. they have staff, chief of staffs policy individuals who have experienced in the areas they

are involved with. we are in never never land with this president. not knowing from day-to-day what he is going to say what he is going to tweet or what he is going to do. >> secretary panetta, i appreciate it. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> the president's barrage of tweets took aim on daca. i will talk to jorge ramos on his perspective. dr. scholl's. born to move.

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president trump's tweet declaring the death of daca landed after time the president spent with some of his allies at

fox news. jorge ramos has spent time defending. do you think he is right? do you think there is a political will to get things done from this president? >> i don't see any political will from this president. the president who killed daca is donald trump. he did that last september. he didn't have to do that. he was offered from the democrats to have daca approved for a few miles of the border and he said no. i don't think president trump wants to do anything that might favor up to 2 million daca kids, dreamers and the person who did it was precisely donald trump. >> i mean, he continues, he is blaming the democrats for

killing daca. >> i don't think he is right. look, it was president obama who in 2012 established daca and it is president donald trump who killed daca. they want to have some kind of negotiation with the president. they offer him up to 300-350 mails of border of wall and he said no. look, we have been hearing all kinds of things about president trump. he said this was going to be a bill of love. that he had the heart to helped dreamers. he is not going to do it. i think something happened during the weekend. we are dealing with the most anti immigrant president since the 1950s. not only killing daca, he wants to end legal immigration. he has arrested 30% more people

than president obama. i don't think this president is going to do anything for the dreamers and be the dreamers know that. >> a supreme court hearing ensure that daca is going to be in place at least during the fall. >> i don't think congress is going to do anything about it with a republican majority. they cannot only approve daca, they can help the dreamers and also have immigration reform if they want to. they don't want to do it. for the dreamers, they have two options. one is to wait for the courts to rule on this. and the other one is what they already call plan b. and plan b is to wait until 2020 to see if donald trump is going to be re-elected or not. and for many of them, donald trump is not an option right now. and the real wall right now on immigration is called donald trump. trump is the wall.

>> the president tweeted that these big flows of people are all trying to take advantage of daca and they want in on the act. i mean, just technically that is not true, no one can enroll in daca, what do you think is going on here? >> he has no idea what he is talking about. he precisely said these caravans, first of all, there are no caravans, there is ungro ungroup -- one group. every year they do it and their purpose. and we talked to univision, spoke to the spokesperson, and they clearly say their purpose is not to come illegally to the united states. their focus is to bring attention to the violence. they cannot take advantage of

daca. to apply for daca, you would have to have been here in this country before 2007. 11 years ago. i don't know what the president is talking about. >> the president accused mexico also in his words doing very little. the relationship between president trump and mexico's president has been chilly and this cannot help and now the fate of nafta is further in doubt. >> this is not helping. even though the mexican government released also statement saying that mexico and the u.s. are cooperating on immigration. the fact is that since donald trump announced hiss candidacy on june 2015, nothing has been good in the relationship between mexico and the united states. >> jorge ramos, thanks very

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defending the move that critics are calling pro trump propaganda. sinclair broadcast owns hundreds across the country. a script that sounded pretty much like what the president would have to say. >> false news has become too common on social media. more alarming, some media outlets publish this -- push their own personal bias and agenda to control exactly what people think and this is extremely dangerous to our democracy. >> after that video went viral the president tweeted and i quote so funny to watch fake news networks among the most

dishonest groups of -- the company defending the promos as a journalistic. >> all too common on social media. >> reporter: identical script read by local news anchors across the country. stations all controlled by one company, the sinclair broadcast company. >> reporter: the tone sounding early similar. >> this is extremely dangerous to our democracy. >> this is extremely dangerous to our democracy. >> reporter: done to quote reach maximum reach frequency. it is the latest move by a media

giant that critics say is pushing pro trump propaganda. >> former fbi director james comey testified. >> reporter: last year senior advisor bor ris epstein was hired by sinclair. >> the media coverage of this administration seems to be hype and little substance. >> reporter: mandated by corporate bosses. has rankled news room for cutting into local news time. in the run up to the election the trump campaign struck a deal with sinclair. better news coverage in return to more access to then candidate trump. most viewers don't know their local news is being shaped by a

national conglomerate. sinclair nows owns or controls 193 stations and markets across the country. the company is poised to control even more since a bid to by tribune media will give sinclair access to 72% of every household in the nation. most of sinclair stations are cnn affiliates meaning cnn shares context and resources with them and vice versa. ac 360 made attempts to have a sinclair representative on the program to no success. fair and objective reporting. and for specifically asking the public to hold our news rooms accountable. gary tuchman, cnn, new york. >> i spoke with chris ruddy who

frequently speaks with the president and here is what he had to say. >> i agree with the sentiment of the sinclair editorial. i agree with the president that the media should not be calling sinclair unfair. if you look at their local news reporting has been generally fair and not biased. i have watched a number of their stations. that said, there is a tremendous dangerous when major tv net works are homogenizing and packaging news at the local level. >> joining me npr media adviser, as well as dan abrams. can you remember though anything like this before? >> no. two things that are proublitrouo

me is number one, local stations prides themselves on independence. and then it detracts from that argument. maybe the most important thing to me is the lack of transparency. if sinclair wants to come out to say there has been media liberal bias out there for years out there, it is time to combat that. fair enough. a lot of people would agree with them. that the mainstream media has tended to be left of center. but to pretend this isn't that kind of statement. to pretend this is a statement of how good we are as local news reporter and go in depth and get the real story feels disingenuous and that is my bigger problem here. >> david, what they are claiming what they are talking about is not actually what they were talking.

i know you spoke with scott livingston. >> he said this is a differentiation for us. let me be clear, when i used to be a reporter for the "baltimore sun," they did some of the best reporting locally in the market. what they are doing is trashing much of the rest of the media. he says they are really expressing concerns about the way fake stories get reported. but you know, the echoes of president trump's rhetoric are so very strong and as dan says i think we have every right to present this as their corporate belief. they are trading on the trust that many of these local news anchors have built with their audiences. not simply by dent of what they are saying, but by dent of the

fact they deposit snt that they say it all. simply reading it from a teleprompter. >> it is not if they are actually saying fake stories that are ginned up online. they don't use any specific examples of what consider fake story and it sounded from the way all the anchors are reading is talking about reporters like magg maggie haberman, that all of these people are doing one side reporting. >> of course they are talking about the liberal media. we can sit here and pretend that maybe that is not what they are talking about, but they are talking about the liberal media. i don't think it is okay to just pretend this is just a statement by the anchors. and david makes a good point,

these anchors are in a tough spot. people are saying they should all quit and stand up and say they are done. that is a nice principal point to make but a lot harder for these anchors who these days those jobs are tough to find. if they say i won't do it, they will be celebrated by some, they will be lionized by many in a particular community but they also may lose their job. so you are putting them in a difficult spot to make that point and particularly many on the left many demanding of them don't say it, if they say you have to say it, then quit. boy, that is a tough spot to put all of these anchors in. >> david, the president's tweet in support of sinclair, i'm not sure it helps sinclair with what it is trying to accomplish. sinclair is saying this isn't

about left or right, it is about us expressing our values of being fair. i am not sure the president weighing on the side of sinclair, helps their point. >> it is hard to look at this controversy over these statements being read aloud by anchors. in the absence of how sinclair handles themselves both on the air and off the air. looking to take over 30 more stations. and the reason that matters is they are nationalizing their coverage. and a lot of that national becomes. >> thank you very much. new reporting on the mueller investigation to tell you about. the "wall street journal" reporting details on that ahead.

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"the wall street journal" tonight reports that special counsel robert mueller is investigating possible links between longtime trump adviser roger stone and wikileaks founder julian assange. in its report, the newspaper says it has an e-mail dated august 4th, 2016, in which stone wrote he'd had dinner with assange. then as now pretty much confined to the ecuadorian embassy in london. an e-mail stone tells the paper was a joke. i'm joined now by one of the reporters who wrote the story, shelby holiday. shelby, roger stone says this isn't true, that he never dined with assange and that, quote, it's not what you say. it's what you do. this was said in jest. that's not dissuaded mueller's team based on your reporting from actually looking into it, correct? >> correct. there's an people and it says he dined with julian assange. he says it's a joke.

he did not deny that he actually wrote this e-mail. he said it was all just a big joke, claiming he had been in touch with julian assange. we do know after he wrote this e-mail, he went on to tell a crowd in florida he had been in contact with julian assange, and his statements have shifted over the past year. he told the house intelligence committee according to reports that he spoke to assange through an intermediary, but when we approached him about this story, he said he never talked to assange in 2016, especially on that day, on august 3, 2016. if you pull back and look the at the time line here, this comes a few days -- his e-mail comes a few days after president trump called on russia to find hillary clinton's missing e-mails. and it also comes after reported contacts between paul manafort, who is facing a number of charges, and a man that the special counsel's office said hinted at is linked to russian intelligence, konstantin kilimn kilimnik. that time line leading up to this e-mail is very curious. then following the e-mail, roger

stone went on twitter and praised julian assange. he went on to say liberals want wikileaks to stand down, but they won't. the payload is coming. so he predicted this e-mail release for months after the e-mail that said he'd dined with julian assange. >> do you know whether ecuadorian officials in london have been cooperating with mueller's team? obviously assange is holed up at the embassy there for years. if there actually was a dinner with roger stone, it would have had to have been at the embassy? >> that's unclear. also julian assange was not available to respond to comment. he has not had internet access off and on recently, so it's hard to know. roger stone actually sent us a screen grab. we gave him multiple days to show -- to prove to us that he was not in london because that's where he'd have to be. all he sent uses with a screen grab of what appeared to be a flight booking with the name roger. he said he was flying from los angeles to miami on that night and couldn't possibly have been in london.

but i've talked to different prosecutors, and some say dining doesn't necessarily have to mean that he was there in person. he could have called him on the phone and caught him during dinner, or maybe they had face timed. other prosecutors say that's pretty concrete language and dining would be dining. but at this point there's no -- beyond the e-mail, beyond the screen shot booking, we don't have any proof that roger stone was or was not in london. and he wouldn't -- he didn't provide any other evidence. he scoffed at me when i asked if he could put me in touch with people he had been with on that day. and he sort of just laughed the whole thing off. even when i asked, is there a 2016 on the screen shot, he said, are you kidding me? so it's hard to know. it's hard to know, and even people close to roger stone say they aren't exactly sure when to believe him and when he's telling the truth or when he's not. >> yeah. i mean there is sort of a performance art at times to some of his statements in the past. >> right. he calls himself a political trickster, and if you watched the documentary, get me roger stone, he actually really loves

this reputation, that he pulls off political tricks, and sometimes he does things -- he says he's never broken the law, but that he does things that sort of raise eyebrows and stir the pot, i guess you could say. what's unclear is if he was communicating with -- if he was communicating with wikileaks and also guccifer, if he's talking to these two groups that spread hacked e-mails, hillary clinton's e-mails before the election, did he know that they were working in tandem with russia as u.s. intelligence agencies have said, and did he know -- did he have knowledge of a hack and still encouraged the release of these e-mails? that would be a crime under the federal election -- i'm sorry -- the computer fraud and abuse act. even if you know of the crime, you didn't commit the crime, but you helped spread or helped disseminate the e-mails, you could be in trouble. >> yeah. shelby holiday, appreciate the reporting. just ahead, president trump

goes on a weekend tweet storm and declares daca dead. he's also on the attack once again against the mainstream media. no surprise there. the latest on all of that ahead.

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