reporting that robert mueller has told president trump's legal team that the president is a subject but not a target, an important deposit tinkistinctio husband investigation. and that 3450u8ler is reporting on the president's actions while in office and potential obstruction of justice. let's begin with ivan watson in beijing with the breaking news this morning. >> reporter: good morning. beijing has made it clear that if the trump administration wants a trade war, it is ready to fights back announcing that it is prepared to slap 25% tariffs on $50 billion worth of u.s. goods including soybeans and airplanes. which were two of the uts' biggest exports to china, 14 billion each in 2016. china says this is retaliation for the trump administration announcement that it will impose

tariffs on $50 billion worth of chinese goods going to the u.s. now, the chinese have the made it clear that they are still bargain, that they have not yet imposed these tariffs and that now is the time to negotiate and to cooperate. the trump administration mass arg has argued that its latest proposal for tariffs are a response to allegations of intellectual property theft by china against u.s. firms that have invested in china. chinese officials were asked about that in beijing today about that and the vice minister of commerce responded to that accusation calling it fake news saying china does not steal intellectual property. china says that it will take this matter to the world trade organization for dispute resolution. meanwhile president trump has tweeted that the u.s. is not in a trade war with china, that

that trade war was lost a long time ago. >> ivan, thank you. "washington post" reporting this morning robert mueller has told president trump's legal team that the president is a subject but not a target of his russia investigation. will president trump agree to an interview given this develop? abby phillip at the white house with more on this. >> reporter: and we are learning new details this morning about what kind of legal jeopardy the president could be in as a result of this mueller probe. and while mueller has told the president's lawyers that he is not under criminal jess, investigation, he is not out of the woodses. last month the "washington post" reports that mueller said he was looking at presented as a subje president as a subject but does not consider him a criminal target. and also relaying that

investigate torts aiors are com report stressing that he needs to interview president trump. and meanwhile the president ramping up tough talk on immigration surprising pentagon officials by announcing that he wants to send the military to guard the southern border. >> until we have can a wall, we will be guarding or border with the military. a big step. we haven't done that much were. >> reporter: and the white house saying the president had been briefed. details remain unclear, but a source tells skcnn that the president is working on the number of troops he is considering. ed a. >> i've just heard that the caravan coming up from honduras is broken up and mexico did that. and they did it because frankly i said you really have to do it.

>> reporter: mexico responding that the decision to break up the caravan was made solely by its members and not due to any external or domestic pressure. president trump also reiterating his interests in pulling out of syria. >> i want to bring our troops back home, i want to restarstar rebuilding our nation. >> reporter: but minutes before trump's remarks, the special envoy in charge evnlge of the m to dweeefeat isis said this. >> we will complete the commission. >> i don't want to tell the enemy how i am thinking. does that make sense? surprise. remember they used to call it the element of surprise. we must as a nation be more unpredictable. i don't talk about military response. >> reporter: mr. trump also

touting the administration's actions against russia. >> nobody has been tougher on russia. but getting along with russia would be a good thing. not a bad thing. and just about everybody agrees to that except very stupid people. >> reporter: the outgoing national security adviser later contradicti contradicting. >> russia brazenly depends its actions. and we have failed to impose sufficient costs. >> reporter: the new mueller developments come after the first jail term was handed down by a court yesterday, a lawyer who was associated with some of trump's former campaign aides was sentenced to 30 days in prison for lying to the mueller investigators. p president trump has a quiet morning before he heads to a private fundraiser this afternoon gearing up forle 2018 and 2020 elections.

>> you promised a quiet morning and there has already been tweets and i don't know if it will be a quiet morning. but anyway, thank you very much. so here is the tweet. president trump has just tweeted about china's retaliation, he says we are not in a trade war with china. that war was lost many years ago by the foolish or uncompetent people who represented the uts. now we have a trade deficit of $500 billion a year. we cannot let this continue. let's bring in our political analyst and also political writer. great to see both of you. so it seens that tit seems that is tweeting this because of the dow futures. looks like another rocky day for the stock market. and people are worried about a trade war. how do you see it? >> people are concerned about this, but the fact that china said we will respond with dozen of categories of retaliatory

moves, it has a lot of people scared. and so for a president who would say this is a sign of how well the economy is doing well under me to have it take so many hit, he has to be concerned that people will point the finger back at him and the new policies that clearly seem to be the inspiration for these falls. and so he is taking this tweet and defending the strategy that he put out there. he is sis it is saying he didn' start it. but this is really the president kind of answering the markets at this point. >> and it is interesting, no question that you could be spooked by looking at the market reaction once he started talking about tariffs and we saw accommodations he practice to try to tampg th that down.

he says we are not in a trade war and china saying we don't have to implement these responses that could have both economic and political effects for president trump. these could be negotiations? >> yeah, we are not in a trade war. i think the chinese are saying we can dial this back some. but the president did damage pain the idea that china is cheating us in trade deals and we'll take them on that. and it looks like that president trump is more unrestrained particularly on trade and tariffs. so use si don't see him backing. >> and we're getting word in that wilbur ross said that i'm surprise that had wall street is so surprised by this.

>> this is a president whose views about trade go back many years and it is among the more thoughtful of his policy areas. you can criticize timing, but these are long healld blaefseli. >> yeah, the president has been k consistent on this point. so fair to say nobody should be surprised. but i think the president campaigned on points that these are policies that have not necessarily seen their way through. i think there will be similar raek in the m reaction in the markets. people i think were hoping that this would not have a shocking

effect. but he has pursued them so he is consistent and we're seeing the reaction play out about that. >> and it is not just the markets obviously. in an election year, you have red state senators, congressmen who will be up for re-election and will look at the economic impacts of this. soybean farmers, other manufactures who are very much a part of trump's political coalition who could be hit most directly. and next topic, the "wall street journal" is -- sorry, "washington post" isert mueller shared with president trump's legal team that president trump is the subject, not the target, of the mueller investigation. what is the significance? >> this could be an important story. i think it is important to break it down a bit. they are saying that he is the subject not the target. there could be for two reasons. one because mueller is not

saying that trump did anything illegal. the other reason could be that mueller believes that the president cannot be indicted so he thoosz report in a congress then has to deal with presidential misconduct, not mu mueller. so we don't know why the president is now a subject and not a target. in idea of mueller putting out the public reports is important because these reports could go in to a lot of detail, they could tell us about what happened, they could exonerate trump on one hand or they could be the basis for on some impeachment process. >> certainly a study of whatever the reports are. parsing on both sides where it exonerates trump or indicts him

in any way. impea impeachment is a political but not criminal process. >> and the first report on the obstruction issue and then you presume further reports may address other questions that are out there. it depends on rosenstein whether we see the reports. and remember this is all happening as the backdrop of the big question of whether the president or won't the president sit down with mueller's team for an interview abo.interview. if the president is seeing that he is not the target, maybe he is more inclined. and there are questions many of the people that have been -- that faced court proceedings to this point has been because of mistruths they told to fbi investigat investigators. and one issue that mueller is looking at is obstruction. so this a mid point temperature taker, but it depends on what

ends up in those reports. yes, the arbiter if there is a fly flip in the house may be congress and not ultimately this investigation. >> all right. thank you both very much for all of the insights. here is it a news flash. there is a stark political divide in this country. how can we stop that? these two republican lawmakers want people to unify. they have some ideas. so trey gowdy and tim scott will talk about their new book. of the fact ud that i served. i was a c130 mechanic in the corps, so i'm not happy unless my hands are dirty. between running a business and four kids, we're busy. auto insurance, homeowner's insurance, life insurance policies. knowing that usaa will always have my back... that's just one less thing you have to worry about. i couldn't imagine going anywhere else. they're like a friend of the family. we are the cochran family, and we'll be usaa members for life.

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that's what really drives me to- to save lives. the washington p"washington pos reporting that robert mueller has said that the president is is aunt but notsubject but not his investigation. joining us to talk about it, tim scott and trey gowdy. they are co-authors of a new book unified, how our unlikely friendship gives us hope for a divided country. this is a such a great book. >> it is such a blessing from the great lord that i can call this man my wing man, anchors me in public service coming up in a

single parent household, distressed communities, a son of affluent family that we couldn't have played for examptogether g. but we have a lot of conflict, a lot of polarization. but the fact of the matter is if we can become best friends, in is money for a divided country because americans, we really are exceptional. >> so why is he leaving? >> please stay. please stay. >> seriously, the way you describe your friendship, don't you think you guys are needed in congress right now? >> i think he is unique. i think he has a unique skillset. frankly, people like me are a dime a dozen. middle aged white lawyers are

not unique. i will always support his career. i've been in public service for 25 years. i really enjoyed the courtroom. i haven't been good i don't think in congress. >> why? why what have you done i don't think? >> i don't know that i've done anything wrong. i like fairness, i like process, i like facts. and in politics the objective is as to win. and in a criminal justice system, prosecutors clear people just like they convicted people. and the process matters. how you get where you are going and how the jury views you matters. in politics it is just about winning. >> are you getting out because you see so much toxicity? >> if you are in the minority, your goal is to become the majority. and i was thinking last night when president obama was elected, several republicans said their objective was to make him a one term president. not do good for the country, not to --

>> we remember. >> and there were lots of people who were laying in bed dreaming of running in 2020 to make president trump a one term president. so the notion that folks work together for the betterment of the country i think right now with this moment in american politics, we mainly work towards either keeping the majority or becoming the majority. >> and i do want to talk to you about the politics of the day, but first i just in the book it was so poignant and touching to hear about what happened after you heard about the massacre at mother emanuel church and he was your first call. >> almost surprising to me looking back on that experience sitting in my bed 10:00 at night getting a call from the sheriff's department that nine had been massacred. my uncle went there for 50 years. and to be sitting in the aftermath of a racially

motivated shooting with a state like south carolina, all the provocative and rich history, to ca get that call, it was -- it was surprising and shocking. but it also was heartwarming weeks later when i looked back at how much progress i experienced. i went to schools where folks would use the "n" word every once in a while, it was a toxic environment, but over time we learned to love each other. and the response after that church shooting was a 345mazina. >> it was a beautiful response. but it still makes you emotional today talking about it. >> it hurts my heart to think that someone came to my hometown to start a race war. and in the home of the start of the sifld war. so to write a book on unity, it

is not a pipe dream. it is within our grasp. the greatest of america can shine again as it relates to our culture diversity that keeps us focused on being one nation. that is the key. we can disagree, we can even disagree on many of the topics, but 80% of the goal and objectives of every day families is to make sure that the next generation has a better chance at success to achieve the american dream of home ownership, to see economic opportunity and prosperity hit the poor zip codes that i come from. if we focus on those things and not the 20% that quguide us, did have more credibility. >> do you think president trump is focused on uniting the country? >> i think politics is inherentlyivisivedivisive.

contrast is good, but we almost invoke on a daily basis. so the unity that he described in the after math of the mother eplan you'imemanuel shooting, o how do we capture the unity but minus the 9/11, minus the hurricanes. we do okay at coming together out of grief, out of pain. i think there should be other things that unify us other than pain. >> this is a serious question. do you think the president's tweets help or hurt with unity? >> i'm not a big twitter guy. i can't capture the ministries of the world in 140 characters. i think tweets are sometimes okay at raising issues, they are really not ever good at resolving issues. so my rule on twitter is if it is not positive, don't say it. and i'm not smart enough to capture the mysteries of the world in 140 characters.

>> i appreciate that. but do you think calling president obama cheating obama, i mean again, you guys are looking for unity. you are trying to lower -- ratchet down the discord. is that helpful? >> i go back to the charlottesville situation where i had harsh comments about the president. and i was very candid about my displeasure and how i found some of this commenhis exhibits to b indefensible. he invited me into the oval office and i found something quite surprising. he said we're not on the same page in history of race relations. help me find the way forward. so i started talking about legislative remedies that would help poor kids in poor communities. and he said that he was interested in the legislation. and he supported the legislation and now cory booker and myself

and other democrats along with republicans on the finance committee got that bill passed in the law and every state is 12340u looki now looking at the ways to create opportunities. so the rhetoric cannot be thenful, but tthe helpful, but i said help me find a path forward and you had to con seeds that t concede as well as the legislation are helpful targets, but we still have to wrestle with the receipt tore kihetoric hurtful. >> and that is valuable because it illustrates one-on-one when you are together and dealing with somebody you can see them as a humid. but when you are lobbying, toxic tweet attacks on somebody, and i don't just mean the president, i mean everybody, it is much harder. >> hard to hate something you know and hard to hate up close.

>> and so do you think more republicans should tell the president to change that tone from the top? >> i've never met or had a conversation with the president. mick mulvaney is the closest that i've come. i'm a big fan of persuasion. insults don't persuade. living by a separate set of rules is not per swrsuasivepers. but also remember the word deplorable, terrorists. >> both sides do it. >> and none of it helps. >> but we see it in stark relief every day by the president. >> this is the most divisive time i can remember and i never thought that a death penalty case would have more civility than modern day politics, but they do and that is what i'll be going back to. >> we have more questions to you

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we're back now with tim scott and trey gowdy. they are the co-authors of a new book, unified. and let's talk about news of the day. we have learned that robert mueller has told president trump's legal team that he is the subject not the target of the mueller probe. is that significant and should the president sit down with robert mueller given that? >> i'll take that in reverse order. i think he should sit down with special counsel mueller. i think he is well positioned to answer some of the questions that the american people have. i don't think that those terms target versus subject -- only

word that matters is a defendant. if you are not a defendant, whether are you the target or sunday, i know the fbi gets really caught up in those two words. but as a former federal prosecutor, they are meaningless to me because one witness can take you from being a subject to a target. and unless and until you have interviewed everyone and looked at everything, no one has been implicated and no would be has been expull indicated. soer read the articles and i just smiled because they are meaning rs to me. >> isn't it risky for the president to sit down with mueller? >> only he knows what he knows. so i would tell you if you did not rob the bank, there is no reason for you not to sit down and talk to the fbi about the bank robbery. so only he knows what he knows. he has beened a today plant that h adamant that his campaign did not compallude with anyone.

so if you have done nothing wrong -- i know i'm in the minority. most of the legal experts are telling him not do it. if you have nothing to hide, sit down -- assuming a fair prosecutor and i think mulglell is, tell him what you know. >> yesterday the president talked about how he thinks he has treated russia and i'll just paraphrase it, he says probably nobody has been tougher on russia and just about everybody agrees except very stupid people. >> i say that he has ratcheted up the aggressive against russia lastly which is a positive in the right direction. of all-time? i don't know that i'd go that far. i think that our latest expulsions are positive. that we have to do everything possible to reinforce the fact that russia should never ever again meddle in our elections and we should use every resource possible to make sure that is loud and clear.

>> and here is what hr mcmaster outgoing national security adviser said about this yesterday. listen. >> russia brazenly denies its actions. and we have failed to impose sufficient costs. we are acting but we must recognize the need for all of us to do more to respond to and deter russian aggression. >> are those the words of a man who knows that he is heading out and can speak more openly when he says we have failed to impose sufficient costs? that is different than what the president said. >> russia is not our friend, they are desperately seeking to become a world power again. but i would say this, it wasn't just hr mcmaster. president obama kind of smiled when mitt romful fullney any ro they are our threat.

so on a bipartisan basis people have underestimated russia.any they are our threat. so on a bipartisan basis people have underestimated russia.ny r they are our threat. so on a bipartisan basis people have underestimated russia.y roy are our threat. so on a bipartisan basis people have underestimated russia. rom are our threat. so on a bipartisan basis people have underestimated russia. cannot be tough enough on russia to suit me. they tried to undermine the fundamentals of our democracy. you can expel diplomats. they tried to undermine the fundamentals of our democracy. i don't know how it gets more serious than that. and you can't be tough enough. >> and do you think the president understands that? >> i think he is trending towards that and in-mike pompeo and others will help him get all the way there. >> and you are on the oversight committee about some of ethical issues, is scott pruitt long for this position given what we know about his travel, et cetera? >> i don't know. i know what i've read. i know chris christie who at one point was really close to the president, former u.s. attorney, said he is not sure how he is still there.

senator scott and i were talking yesterday about how much we would enjoy $50 per night condo access. >> that is below market rate. so are you investigating? >> we have written letters on a number of cabinet level officials. in washington they want to have a hearing. my bias is getting the information and facts first and then if a hearing -- hearings are great at sharing information, they are not great at gathering it. so whether it is tom price, whether it is private e-mail use, whether ryan zinke who is a friend but whether there are questions about spending the money on doors or dining room table, we have and on october gagts to ask t obligation to ask the question. >> and so what is so fun with this book? >> it has brought to mind our friendship and how funny he is. one thing you see on tv is the

prosecutor who is cross examining, feels like he is pulling your skin off at some times. but when you go to a buy group of senators together, he is the funniest guy at the table. he has jokes all day long. and typically they are self deprecation which is good. but you will have joe kennedy, myself, a group of bipartisan folks that no one sees on tv and he is cutting jokes the entire time. >> trey gowdy, laugh riot, one of the surprises in the book. it is such a great book and your vision on how we can do this all better. thank you both very much for being here. and we're marking an important anniversary today. 350 ye 50 years ago dr. king was assassinated. well will talk about his family when we come back. will talk about his family

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it was 50 years ago today dr. king was assassinated in memphis. the family of the civil rights icon, carrying on his legacy now and the dream. we are joined by his son martin luther king iii along with his wife andrea and their daughter yolanda. welcome, all. >> thank you. >> martin, let me start with you and ask you, you were 10 years

old at the time your father was assassinat assassinated. and of course we all remember the proceed at the time tech natu prophetic nature of his final remarks, that he was not afraid, that he did not fear any manbib of moses, seeing the promise land but understanding that he may not get there. certainly on his heart and mind. who do you remember that period? was this a time when you and the rest of the family were fearful for his life? >> i would have to say -- i was a 10-year-old kid. dad was dad to me. and i can't say accurately that i consciously knew, but i would say subconsciously there were concerns certainly. and i'll give this bon one exam. one of the last trips that he

had to memphis, my brother and i encouraged him don't go, we want you here. and told us i'll be back. and of course as we know when he came here yesterday 50 years ago, he did not return home. and so again, i say subconsciously. but consciously we did not -- mom and dad sheltered us very well. we understood the work that he and mother were involved in. and we understood that maybe we thought something could happen, but we didn't expect it. i remember this time april 4, you know, 50 years ago and watching on the news the evening about 7:01 p.m. atlanta time, 6:01 34ememphis and it flsheit t martin luther king jr. had been shot. and that was a moment that oh,

my god, what has happened. and my brothers and sisters and i said ran back to mom and dad's room to get an explanation of what was happening and mom was preparing to come to memphis to be by dad's side. >> andrea, i'm one who studies the bible in part because i understand the resonance of those ancient stories to our lives today. they are not long ago story, they are stories about how we should live today in our lives. and i'm wondering, as you think about legacy, how you think dr. king would be living today, what would he be saying today, where would he be active today. >> i think first of all he would be so charged by all of the movements that are under way today from of course the enough is enough as our daughter said movement dealing with gun violence, and also the me too"m

movement. there are so many people that are on the move doing wonderful work right now that i can't help but think that he would be inspired by what we're seeing around the nation and the world. >> yeah, you mentioned your daughter yolanda and we're so happy that you are with us here as well. you are nine years old and you have already had a prominent public role as we saw during the march for our lives. let me play a bit of that and ask you about it on the other side. >> high grandfathmy grandfathert his four little children will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. i have a dream that enough is enough. and that this could be a gun free world, period.

>> well said, yolanda. that is a big stage to step on to. and invoke the memory of your grandfather. why did you do it, what does this moment in time mean to you? >> well, i was actually -- i actually want to help for there be to no gun there is the world and i've had an interest in that in second grade because in 2016 when we met the president to look at my grand fer's stfather. and we went to the oval office and my parents told me that i had to prepare a question. and so i asked mr. president, what are we going to do about these guns. and so -- >> so you've been interested since then. it's a question that a lot of people are asking and a lot of momentum mind that question.

and you added a very he wieloqu note to those protests. martin, let me ask you about what the meaning of this anniversary should be, what the resonance of this anniversary should be in terms of your father's public role. at the end of his life, he was in parts unpopular as jesse jackson writes in the "new york times" today among some democrats taking on obviously poverty, his stance on the vietnam war. this isn't even -- i should say it is a toxic time of a different nature today. what should we learn from his example as we deal with the t toxicity of today? >> well, first of all, what i hope is that -- first, we are living in a culture of violence.

we have created and allowed violence to persist. whether it is domestic, gang violence, whether it is one-on-one violence, violence in the corporate communities. just yesterday tragically we saw again violence at youtube. but what dad would want is to create a culture of nonviolence. he talked about a revolution of values. when we have a revolution of values, we can create a nonviolence community. he lived and died in a nonviolent way. that is what we need to be engaged in. and i'm excited about these movements that sxit s thas that. and very soon this year we'll be launching an initiative, a global initiative around nonviolence with a member of the gandhi family and a member of the mandela family and of course south africa, india, we will be launching this initiative to that young people can use nobody violence to resolve conflicts as

the students, the high school students, are doing. we have not seen a movement like this led by high school students for 55 years. 1963, 3,000 kids were arrested in birmingham. and so i'm very excited about the future. even though there seems to be toxicity, we can get past toxicity. we are a great nation. and we can and we must and we will do better. >> martin, yolanda, an dree, a thank you all for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. yolanda, future president. very adorable and well spoken. so research used in the u.s. ghoechlts's ca government's case against at&t/time warner merger is coming in as to-tto question. we'll explain why. to fight cancer. and never lose sight of the patients

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attorneys for at&t and time warner questioning some research behind the u.s. government's effort to stop their mega merger. time warner is the parent company of cnn. let's bring in our media and business reporter and also a host of reliable sources. so what is the problem with the research? >> the government brought forward this research that helped a government expert witness, this economics professor, determine that there

would be a price increase should time warner and taed come togeth at&t come together. but at&t lawyers said that a higher version that was sent to the xhis. had the government economist used the initial lower number, they would have found no price increase after the merger. so that is why the at&t lawyers are saying why was there is a change in the number. this could completely alter the government's case. >> okay. so that is a bombshell, brian. >> and yes this it at the heart of this big question about the impact of a deal of in size, what would happen if at&t owned time warner's channels and could use that power in the marketplace. essentially at&t is saying that it would not use that power in a harmful way, that the estimates of damage to consumers are overblown and overstated. and turner at one point offered to have arbitration in the future so that competitors could

go ahead and resolve disputes over price. however the government taking a hard line here being very skipt cal of t skeptical claims, and they feel that they were burned years ago and so this is fought in court as opposed to settled in privately. >> so what do you expect today? >> we expect vince torres and the next few witnesses from at&t/time warner, so there will be a lot of what we call a hostile direct where it is not a wilt who is necessarily on the plaintiff, on the government side, so it should be a pretty contentious questioning for the next few days. >> sounds like it. okay. we'll look forward to you givings giving us an update tomorrow. thank you both very much. and thank you david gregory. >> and i've gotten word that

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