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several were attacked with a suspected chemical agent. >> we are talking about dozens of people who have reportedly died. we have to warn you that the video you're about to see is graphic. and now if you don't think you can take it, look away, if you don't want to see it. [ speaking in foreign language ] >> i know it's so hard to look at. these are the people of d ourou lying on the floor. you see foam around their mouth that is a sign of a chemical attack. this is not the first time chemical attacks have been reported in syria. >> the government has been accused on at least three other occasions the last six years but the syrian government denies being behind this incident. >> cnn senior journalist
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frederik pleitgen is there, the only correspondent there. help us understand what you're learning this morning. >> reporter: there seems to be troubling event happening and all of this going down i'd say eight miles from where i am right now. the latest information that we have is that, apparently, around 8:30 last night, a helicopter, this is according to rebel and opposition media sources, a helicopter from the syrian government apparently dropped some sort of improvised explosive device twice and some people from douma came down with respiratory problems and that dozens of people has been killed and they expect the death toll will continue to go up. that is shortly alfefterwards w got the videos came out of those people with the respiratory problems of doctors trying to
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help them and, in general, what seemed to be a panic in that area. we can't verify those accounts. the government denies those allegations saying they had a battle in this area and they mayor making gains in the battlefield and have no reason to use weapons in that area. they say these chemicals, the area they parapparently were us was not on the front line and give them less incentive to use them there. the denial from the syrian government and opposition groups saying this happened. in the midst of all this, millions in syria are suffering the worse. >> fred, of course, as you've mentioned it, i've mentioned this is not the first accusation and denial of use of chemical weapons and part of the broader civil war that is going on there for years and hundreds of thousands of people killed.
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and the difficulty for the u.s. to come up with a strategy to deal with it. i want you to listen to what retired general mark hertling said a few minutes ago about the u.s.' problem here. >> the somewhat schizophrenic foreign policy challenge there was ambiguitied in the last administration what to do about syria. it seems to be more problematic today than it was even if we go back a week ago. because of what president trump said about wanting to pull out as fast as possible, about the obvious contention that there existed between the state department, the department of defense, the central command saying they were, in fact, increasing the number of troops in syria. >> fred, most people agree there is no military solution there. but it appears, as the general says, the world is getting farther from diplomatic solution there.
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>> reporter: yeah. i would absolutely agree with pretty much anything that general hert ling said there. i think this comes down to one main problem. you have companies in this region of the world who are willing to be involved in syria in the long term. those countries are turkey, iran, and russia. the u.s., over the course of the past year, was never really willing to fully get involved in the situation in syria and now you have president trump saying that america wants to pull out. that, of course, is something that diminishes america's credibility here on the ground. it makes it more difficult also for the united states to play a big part in diplomatic efforts. a summit happened a couple of days ago that was put on by the turks, russians, and iranians debating the situation here and u.s. not at the table and all three countries pushing their own military agendas. the russians supporting the assad government. in fact, the russians are the ones who are at the negotiations with the rebel in that douma district that got hit for the rebels to then give up.
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then the iranians, a long-term agenda here as well. so far, from what we are hearing, and seeing here on the ground, it seems as though the syrian government and other groups is not factoring america in what is happening in the future of this country. again, all of them, of course, pushing their own way forward and the united states being left out. >> frederik pleitgen, in damascus, thank you. the u.s. has condemned the apparent chemical attack on the civilians there in syria. >> here is the report they released. a political commentator and columnist for the huffing post and "usa today" is with you us as well as errol louis. thank you both for joining us.
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i want to listen together here to what the president said last april, almost to the day. april 2017 after another attack had been detected. >> a chemical attack that was horrific in syria against innocent people, including women, small children, and even beautiful little babies, their deaths was an affront to humanity. these heinous actions by the assad regime cannot be tolerated. >> very different from what we heard from president trump then just this week, a few days ago he said we will be coming out of syria very soon and let the other people take care of it very soon. two very different angles that we hear from the president one
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year later. how do they move forward, errol, with some sort of response that is beyond just a verbal condemnation? >> yeah. what is missing here is a coherent foreign policy and to a certain extent, as the general suggested, this is what you get when you don't have a coherent foreign policy. so last year, before lobbying missiles in response, i mean, the clip that you just played he had been president less than 90 days and it was, apparently, a kind of an emotional response to seeing the brutality that has been going on for years there. but what is really missing, when you see the state department say we need to have the international community respond, well, it is the role of the united states to rally the international community. that is what it's all about. that is the leadership role that this administration has more or less discarded and distained
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where you have the president president a acting we have to be smart and tough and look out for america first and we have to pull out of these entanglements. that has been the closest we have heard from a through line, a consistent attitude, if not policy and this is what you get. you're opening the door for russia and tehran and you're opening the door for chaos for hundreds of thousands of deaths, at this point and counting and millions of refuges. a complete catastrophe. >> we had a point made earlier the rebels don't have these kind of capabilities and don't have helicopters going in and dropping these chemical weapons in the form of bombs on to this area of the town. the point of the truth is to find out who does. would, curt, president assad do anything like this without
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putin's green light? >> no, of course, not and says something already in the immediate aftermath of this horrific attack we will send our own people in there to verify that. they are already calling this fake news saying it's a chemical weapons attack. when you have russia immediately out there basically running propaganda and block and tackle for assad's regime, that tells you where they stand on this and tells you they did this with their permission and would not take this type of action if they didn't already know they would have russia in their corner. no mistake that this happened just days after trump said he wanted to pull out of syria and wanted our troops out of there. it set off a train of events the united states government was tripping over themselves trying to walk part of that back and develop foreign policy in live time on twitter. of course, the enemies of decency and freedom are taking this opportunity to attack. they see in america a government
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that has no coherent foreign policy. a national apparatus influx and we don't have a confirmed secretary of state right now. this is the time they take action and take advantage of this instability. >> as general hert ling pointed out too this is something the obama administration struggled with as well. when we talk about assad and russia, he eerrol, is there anyg chance what we have seen the last 24 hours is a response from russia to the repeat sanctions that the u.s. has taken against them? >> in this sort of a chess game it's impossible to know what any one move means until you sort of see the subsequent rearranging of the pieces on the board. let's not forget that toik is involved here too. there are credible reports coming out now of turkish troops pillaging and looting in some of the areas they are trying to control and they have their strategic objectives. here again, everybody has got
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sort of a plan except for the united states. iran wants to build a land bridge and has been backing hezbollah and bringing troops and materiel and create ago corridor to the mediterranean. the russian attack the very brutality of it is the whole point. the brazenness is the whole point and demorize the people in the region and to let them know, no help is coming. and if in the face of that the best we can do is get sort of a weak statement from the state department saying, gee, the international community needs to condemn this, with no further action, not the united states calling for an emergency meeting of the security council, threatening perhaps to maybe ramp up its own presence, demanding answers immediately from russia, maybe stepping up sanctions just as you suggest. i mean, we are not doing anything. we are standing by as bystanders as this humanitarian catastrophe
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unfolds. >> the president launched military strikes on the air field there and see if anything like that happens again after what we are witnessing today. kurt and errol, we appreciate both of you. >> thank you. still to come, a four-alarm fire at trump tower leaves one dead and six firefighters injured. we have an update on what happened from new york city's fire commissioner. facebook ceo mark zuckerberg is set to testify in front of congress. what will he say? and get the green jacket ready. we are heading into the final round of the masters today. ♪ bring us doubt, and we'll bring you the first car with true hands free driving for the freeway. bring us a challenge, and we'll reinvent what it means to own a car. ♪ bring us all your expectations,
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our affiliate wpix in new york has more. >> it was an automatic alarm from an alarm company at 5:35 p.m. that alerted the nyfd that there was a fire on the 50 floor of trump tower. within five minutes the first firefighters on the scene what the fire commissioner called a very large apartment with lots of furniture 50 stories up. >> units made their way up to the 50th floor. the apartment was virtually entirely on fire. they pushed in. heroically they were knocking down the fire and found one occupant. >> reporter: the 51-year-old male resident was later pronounced dead at st. lukes. more than 200 firefighters and ems battled this four-alarm fire with lots of smoke damaging other apartments above. president trump and his family were not in the building and the president tweeted just an hour after the fire broke out, fire at trump tower is out. very confined. well built building. fire men and women did a great job. thank you.
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the fire commissioner talked about how difficult it was to fight this fire. >> the units have to get there and have to hook up to a stand pipe system with their hose, takes a little longer. the fire, of course, the building is -- it contains the heat, it contains the smoke. it was extremely hot in the apartment. >> reporter: several groups of tourists were inside trump tower walking near the trump store and shared their videos of the fire and their stories of being evacuated. >> it was a little scary. i'm not going to lie. >> we see the fire and the flames coming out. i was scared for a while. glad i got out. >> we were downstairs in the cafe. we saw one truck pull up and a a gentleman came downstairs and told us to evacuate and we came outside and we saw it was on fire. thank you to wpix there. president trump is doubling down on his defense of his embattled epa chief. >> the president says that scott
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pruitt is doing a great job, despite the new questions about how much scott pruitt's unprecedented security detail is costing taxpayers. cnn's dan merica is live in washington. it seemed that scott pruitt headline after and was on his way out and now the president said great job, everything is okay. >> it seems that the headlines have not taken a toll on scott pruitt's boss who fully supported what he has done and many of the headlines that have dogged scott pruitt for weeks now. most of it the cost of pruitt's security detail that cnn reported cost up to $2 million over the time they have been detaileded to scott pruitt. scott pruitt and president trump met on friday and told the tweet backs him up. many of the in the white house have complained about scott pruitt and the headlines keep coming up and derailing the
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message that the trump administration is trying to get out. so while this tweet, yes, does back up scott pruitt, it's important to remember that we have seen, over the course of this administration, that the president can easily sour on one of his cabinet secretaries pretty quickly. >> so let's talk about president trump to attacking his department of justice as we are understanding. walk us through what is going on there. >> reporter: the president tweeted yesterday criticism of his department of justice along the line of criticism he has lobbed against his department of justice and stems from complaints that house republicans have with the fbi saying they are slow walking document production on a host of issues that house republicans want to investigate. i want to read you what he says. so we are told that fbi director is doubling the number of people
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who are producing these documents and while many past attacks on the department of justice by president trump have been used to attack attorney general jeff sessions, someone he has gone after a number of times, we are told by a doj source that sessions is also fed up with how long this is taking. throughout all of these attacks it's worth remembering that president trump controls the department of justice to an extent. he could call up the department of justice and ask these questions but instead he takes to twitter to show house republicans he is doing something and allows him another opportunity to take on his long embattled attorney general. >> we will see if more tweets come this morning. dan, in washington, thank you. the former vice president and environmental activist al gore sat down with cnn and how the trump administration should handle the situation with epa administrator pruitt. >> i tell you i would be very surprised if 90% of the american
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oumo douma. the syrian government denies being behind this incident. >> the rebel area is bombarded by thousands today and thousands are running from their homes. >> john delaney of maryland is joining us. congressman, welcome to "new day." >> nice to be here. >> first your reaction what you're seeing in douma and the update we are learning from the russian government they are calling this a hoax. >> well, look. it's a horrible set of atrocities that we are seeing on the ground in syria and, unfortunately, it's not the first time. as far as russia's response calling this a hoax you showed the he clip. doesn't look like a hoax for me. kind of independent verifications this has actually happened. once again, russia is not fulfilling its role as a guarantor. back in 2013 we thought we had
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an agreement where chemical weapons would be removed from syria and thought all of them would be taken out and russia was supposed to be the backstop or guarantor of that agreement and they are saying this is is a hoax is ridiculous. >> there was an agreement following up that august 2013 attack. >> right. >> what should congress' role be in shaping a potential response to this and shaping u.s. military actions in syria? >> well, our response to shaping our military response to syria or anywhere in the region should be guided by a new authorization for military force. we have been relying upon on 17-year-old document that was put in place after 9/11. rightly so, by the way. but it was very broad, very open-ended and had no time limit on it. congress is really abdicated its responsibility to have a say and have the people's representatives to be a part of
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the debate in terms of what military action occurs on the ground in syria and anywhere else in the region or the world for that matter. over a dozen of countries have seen u.s. military engagement based on the 2001 agreement so we need a new one and congress needs to play a role in shaping that and working with the white house. the american people and the u.s. military deserve a debate about what our role is specifically in syria and other parts of the region. >> you appeared to support actually a year ago yesterday. >> yes. >> the president's targeted strikes on an air field and runway in response to the april 2017 chemical attacks. would you support any military action short without, i should say, congress' author 6:ization response to what we saw in syria yesterday? >> i absolutely believe and calling for gnaw authorization of military force generally for the region but would i support a specific strike to degrade the
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capabilities of assad to pursue another one of these attacks? provided there weren't a lot of kind of civilian casualties associated with it? yes. i would support something like that something to what we did a year ago. we can't stand by and let the assad regime violate international norms using chemical weapons on their children and people. the key point there, victor, we absolutely need a discussion in the congress of the united states about u.s. military engagement broadly across this region and around the world. we should have a new updated authorization for military force and it should be debated starting next week in the congress of the united states. and that is what we really need. i think whether we respond in a targeted way to try to degrade capabilities to use chemical weapons against their people, i think, is a separate discussion. >> let's talk about something that could start up next wean
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acre end last week is the ratcheting up of potential tariffs between the u.s. and china at the it end of the week. the president suggested that the u.s. should consider an incredible $100 billion in tariffs against china. at this point, this is all threat. this is all rhetorical. k do you expect this is a negotiating strategy or at some point it will come to a point the u.s. and china are in an active trade war? >> feels like we are going down the bapath of a trade war and i not the way to deal with china. we have legitimate issues with china. they manipulate their currencies and building islands in the south china sea are illegal islands. we should be dealing with these things in the international courts. we shoulding dealing with these at the negotiating table with our presence in the region. really by competing with china in asia which is one of the reasons i think tearing up the transpacific partnership which
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would have given the united states a big footprint economically in the asia pacific region was a terrible mistake because it took away our leverage with china. what the president is doing right now is kind of engaging what i call almost 19th century economic policy which is to get us involved in a trade war which is not the way to deal with china and not in the best interests of our country. the frustration i have with this administration is they seem to be debating whether we want 19th or 20th century economy if you listen to their economic policies and how they approach the world. i mean, trade wars and tariffs, it really is going back to the 19th century and we should be focusing on the 21st century economic, which involves engaging around the world and making sure the united states has a footprint in keep markets in the world and starting a trade war, you know, on twitter and directing kind of randomly your u.s. tr, your trade rep to ratchet up tariffs and them do the same thing in response is no way to conduct kind of economic
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well, a canadian community this morning is trying to to understand how this happened. a bus crashed carrying a junior hockey team killed 15 people and we know at least 14 others were injured. it collided with a tractor-trailer in canada's saskatchewan province. coaches and players of the humboldt broncos team were on board on their way to a junior league playoff game. >> some of the victims posted on social media from their hospital beds. look at this photo. three survivors here on gurneys holding hands. this one went viral and it's captioned bonding and healing. authorities have not yet identified the victims and have not confirmed whether they were players or coaches. the cause of this crash is still
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being investigated. a 'lum seeksylum seekers ga the mexico city to rally against president trump. the protests come after the president announced he would be sending national guard troops to protect the border. >> the president says the group is a threat to the united states but migrants tell cnn their merely in search of a better life. >> reporter: valentin has become quite popular. she is the reason her mother says they are even here. for them, this is about the search for a better life. [ speaking in foreign language ] >> reporter: we are human beings, she tells me. [ speaking in foreign language ] >> reporter: adding, if jesus had to mooi gratigrate, why shoe westbound part of an annual pilgrimage united to head north
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to leave poverty in central america, they tell us. this one says her sister and uncle were both killed in honduras. she doesn't want to be next and cruz can't wait. when her son's life was threatened she says they fled immediately. both women hope to reach the u.s./mexico border so they can seek asylum and gangs control where they live and post makes it tough to find a way out. the caravan a target of president trump's tweets calling them a dangerous caravan and trump may not understand, they tell me they find support in each other. they have become a community, a village on wheel and children playing and medical teams carrying for the ill on the volume volunteers serving dinner. even a soccer game. people in the caravan are lining
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up to be counted by organizers and then a full day worth of workshops they meet with immigrants advocates and legal aid where they make up their mind on what to do next. head count this weekend, about 500. some will stay in mexico, others will break off on their own, as it has in previous years, the group becomes smaller as it heads north. organizers believe only about half of them will make it to the u.s./mexico border. these two are determined to make those to the united states of america. layla santiago, cnn, mexico. eight years ago, facebook was being praised for helping fuel democratic change around the world. >> now mark zuckerberg is facing quite a grilling from lawmakers in and facebook's reputation is at stake here that russia used it to undermine american democracy.
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facebook ceo mark zuckerberg will testify before congress on tuesday about the company's role in the misuse of millions of people's personal information. top company officials were on an apology tour of sorts all week, saying they are sorry, they didn't do enough to protect people. look at this. >> we are idealistic and optimistic company and we connect on the good that connecting people bring and it's clear we didn't focus enough on preventing abuse and thinking through how people would use these tools to do harm as well. let's talk about this with social media and tech expert lance -- on tuesday. >> a lot of apologizing.
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he is going to map out the chances to control your privacy and changes to use third-party companies to use data. >> let's listen together here to what the coo that was asked if another data breach could happen again i think what most people are concerned about. here is what she had to say. >> we are doing an investigation. we are going to do audits and think it's possible and why we are doing the audit. this week we announced we are something shutting down parts of our product used data. a lot of these have quite good use cases. but we are making a big shift here and it's a shift we are making to make sure that we are more protective. >> so they are doing all of these things that she is outstanding there but how really at the end of the day does the company build back the public's trust? >> well, very, very slowly. mark has said this is going to be a project that takes not just
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six months and hope they turn the corner by the end of the year but it's going to take a very long time because people are frustrated and concerned. it wasn't really a data breach. it was kind of like relaxed data. you know? we have been willingly giving up this data to facebook and facebook has done a terrible job of informing their users of how the data might be used. now that their eyes are open to it, they are freaking out and it's going to take a lom long time for facebook to build in the right kind of controls and also just remember, they may discover more data instances just like this and they have warned us about that. >> yeah, the first numbers that they released were 50 million users data accessed and more than 80 million user data's access. do you think the harm is irrepresent panirre irreparable or can they repair the facebook brand with their users? >> facebook is used all around
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the world for all different kinds of things, connecting with people and getting them excited about movements. they have lost some trust but facebook is not destroyed by any means. in fact, mark zuckerberg said the movement has not had a recognizable impact. why is it on facebook? it's technology. is it going to take more than facebook itself to fix this? >> it's going to take people. the people who are using facebook to wake up and understand that sharing their lives on social media is also sharing data. their lives are now made up of data points and it's not just on facebook. it's on any social networks they use and any companies that may be working with third party
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entities to share and use the data to drive targeting. it is going to be a partnership between technology companies and the users and the users need education, learning how to use the tools and maybe sharing a little less. >> maybe being a little more skeptical of some things that we read and making sure that we know our sources. >> starting to make changes at least to political advertising. we'll see if more changes are rolled out. >> we appreciate it so much. thank you. conditions will be chilly at the masters but the action pretty warm, pretty hot. a pair of familiar foes will go shot for shot with the green jacket on the line.
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fourth and final round of the masters tees off. >> shaping up to be a dramatic ending. you say this is the day to be there. >> two hours from where we are right now the center of the sports universe. even if you are a golf fan or not. patrick reed is in position to win his first green jacket and first major championship while possibly rewriting the record books. the conditions were no problem for this texan. he shot 5 under 67 to grab a three shot lead. if reid can score under 70 today he will be the first player to have four rounds in the 60s. and has the shot of breaking the
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tournament record. reed will be paired up with rory mcilroy. if mcilroy can make up the gap he will be the sixth man to complete the career grand slam and the first from europe. a year and a half ago reed and mcilroy squared off in a down to the wire match for the ages. these rivals say this isn't a two-man race. >> there are a lot more players in this tournament than just patrick reed and i. >> probably one of the most exhausting matches we have played. there is a lot of stuff you can do at a ryder cup that you can't do at augusta national. >> i'm going for something else. it's going to be good fun. >> we're all in for a treat. reed and mcilroy set to tee off
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at 2:40 eastern time. look at the guys on their heels, chasers, plenty in contention. expectations were sky high for tiger woods but you have to look way down the leaderboard. we finished in a tie for 40th place yesterday. even though he is out of contention i guess there is silver lining as a former world number one climes back into the top 100. although that was not his goal. andy shoals has met one of his goals. baby number three. way to go. >> look at him there. this is why andy is not here. that is nolan robert shoals with andy, his wife, lauren. big beautiful family of three boys. all i can say is good luck with
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that. >> congratulations. >> we're so happy for you. >> nolan is dictating my schedule. >> already. thank you. thank you so much for starting your morning with us. we always appreciate you and hope you make good memories today. inside politics with john king is next. >> taking on several topics including the chaos that unfolded with china this week. >> how is it going? make this quick because i have a lot of trade wars to escalate. i announced more tariffs on chinese products including fireworks and finger traps. we have expelled the infamous chinese billionaire p.f. chang. here is the thing that no one else is saying and i'm the only one willing to actually say this, i don't care about
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america. this whole presidency is a four-year cash grab and admitting that will probably get me four more years. i do not care about any of you. does that basically answer all of your questions? okay. u.s./china tensions rock wall street and trump country but the white house says not to worry. >> we are not running a trade war. nothing has happened. nothing has been executed. major moves by the russia special counsel and new information about the president's legal jeopardy. >> i think he should sit down with special counsel mueller. if you did not rob the bank there is no reason for you not to talk about the bank robbery. >> reporter: and a week of surprises

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