usinesses in more places can afford to dream gig. comcast, building america's largest gig-speed network. . president trump said to be in a red hot rage. we've got news on the focus of his fury. two item, in fact, tonight. one involving the possible firing of rod rosenstein who okayed the searches yesterday of the if the's personal attorney, michael cohen. he's not just grumbling rob rosenste rosenstein. he's actively talking about getting rid of him and laying the ground work for it. first, gloria borj borger joins with this exclusive. what are you hearing? >> well, what we're hearing is the president is discussing with advisers about whether he

actually ought to fire the deputy attorney general. as you know, he's been in his cross hairs for quite some time. but i think the michael cohen raid has taken it to a very different level. and this would all be, of course, firing rosenstein would allow him to put a greater pressure on the special counsel. but there are lots of different voices in that room. there are people trying to calm the president down saying wait, don't do anything yet. some of his attorneys are el toing us that he's not going to fire rosenstein. other attorneys are saying look, it's up to the president, but some are making the case to the president, look, rod rosenstein is conflicted here. he's a material witness in this case. and we have a very good case to make against him if we need to do that. and so they also believe that, you know, he's important to the mueller case. because, of course, don't forget, he wrote the memo about

the firing of comey. they're saying this is a clear conflict and we can make that case. and by the way, you've already made a good case about disqualifying the fbi because you think that their investigation has not been credible and has been contaminat contaminated. so the president wants to fire people, we are told. rosenstein primarily among them. perhaps even jeff sessions. and of course, there's always the question about does he want to fire mueller. do we know he's going to do any of these things? nobody does. >> what are your sources saying about the president's feelings on mueller himself right now? >> well look, obviously he's got his problems with mueller, too. i was told by a source that right now his rage is more directed at rosenstein and at jeff sessions. but they believe, and the president believes, that the raid on michael cohen crossed a red line, i was.

that he has run amuck, and he is now unchecked. because, of course, rosenstein approved that. and so he believes that he is not checking him the way he should. and therefore, if he had his druthers, he would like to get rid of him, too. but there are members of congress. you heard chuck grassley say today it would be political suicide to do that. so i think the president is hearing from enough people about the firing of mueller himself that he may not want to start that fire because it would be very difficult for him to extinguish politically. firing rosenstein would not be as difficult. >> we also got more information about what the fbi was actually seeking in its searches yesterday. >> we know that a great deal of the search warrant was about stormy daniels, the payment to her, the conversations that

michael cohen, the president's attorney may have had about the president's attorney about this and the campaign. we since learned there were also issues related to the payment to karen mcaddougalcdougal, the plf course, that the president allegedly had an affair with. also questions about federal election law. and we now know there were also the search warrant was interested in michael cohen's personal investments and the sale of those investments, which were taxi me dad i don't knowda one point were quite value in the city but now have decreased because of things like uber and lyft. they're not only going into his personal finances but also the questions about these women. and don't forget that he has represented the president in dozens and dozens of legal cases and presumably that would all be in his personal financial records, which he kept.

>> gloria borger, thanks very much. the special counsel, tonight other blockbuster story. trump sought to fire mueller in december, which makes it now two instances that we know about. maggie is the cnn political analyst. she joins us by phone. maggie, you reported on the previous incident of the president apparently wanting to fire robert mueller which was stopped by don mcgahn, the white house counsel. how did this play out last december? >> sure. and this is one of several instances where the president has come pretty close to dispatching with mueller in some way. this is one of the most detailed and it's the one that's the most similar to what we're seeing right now in terms of michael cohen and why the president feels like that violated a red line. in december, there were erroneous news reports that

mueller had subpoenaed records from deutsche bank related to the president's finances it's not clear if he did have loeans current or money current with deutsche bank. i think the notion of mueller getting near his finances drove him to a different degree of anger. he told lawyers and advisers this crosses a red line. he was furious. his lawyers worked hurriedly to figure out exactly what was going on and got a rare assurance and response from mueller's folks no, we did not do that subpoena. that is not correct. and they were able to walk the president back from the ledge 37 but it does show you how close he can get himself. and i understand how many people in the white house have come to see this as part of the fabric of life there. most of them dismiss this as this is just how he talks. he is blowing off steam. one white house official said to

me today, you know, don't you think that he has dugged firing rod rosenstein about ten times today. they were being sort of sarcastic, but the point being he says this a lot. but at one case of the fbi director, he did fire him. >> the president was ready to do this, i just want to be clear, because it crossed a red line that he had set when we talked about with you and your colleagues in an interview. correct. >> he thought it had. it turned out it didn't. he thought it violated the red line, which is what he had said in an interview about the investigation that his charge is russia and the things that relate to the president's finances or his families finances would not be applicable there. i'm wondering how all of

this -- the story about wanting to fire pluler in december, leads us to the moment we're in right now the president considering firing rod rosenstein. >> i think again this is something that, a line that he repeatedly walks up to and to gloria's point, there often are people, and there still are, telling him this is a very bad idea. it's happened before, some combination of lawyers, legal advisers, friends, white house advisers. there are fewer of those people now than existed before. and i think that that is part of what makes this more precarious. add to that that everyone i've sfoen to says this is different. the president's level of frustration and, i would use the word helplessness because he has no control are at a peak. he is doing what he always does, which is sitting and watching us

talk. he's watching television, he's watching news. and he is getting very, very angry. the moods are not constant. it is not every second of every day, but it is creating a sen of uncertainty in the white house that is different than the usual churn we have seen. >> fascinating. maggie h maggie haberman. jeff, this new new york times reporting, did the president -- i mean, he did draw that red line when it came to his finances. does it mask sense to you that just in december for the second time he would have been talking about firing mueller? >> sure it makes sense. given what we know about the president and his character. let's just step back and remember, this red line is something of his own invention that he thinks is some line between appropriate and inappropriate. it's important to remember that we are talking here about a

president who may be firing justice department officials and prosecutors for doing their job. rod rosenstein has done nothing wrong. he has done his job. yet it seems like, and i certainly believe the reporting of our colleagues, that he is on the verge of losing his job because he did the right thing. so i think it is totally believable that the president is considering firing rosenstein, that he almost fired mueller in december and earlier last year. but we can't lose perspective on the fact that this is wrong. this whole approach to being president is wrong, but this is how things are working. >> jeff, the other thing about this reporting is that the president was about to fire mueller for something that turned out not even to be true. there was no subpoenaing of his bank records at deutsche bank, if he even had bank records

there. what does that say to you about how sensitive he is about all of this? >> well, i mean, it says that, you know, he is deeply worried about his personal finances being looked into. he has invented this standard that there is some red line, as he said in thisser into view with the "times" several months ago. but this red lean is not some sort of legal concept. it is a personal indulgence, personal imagined rule, that the president came up with. and, you know, fortunately, i guess, for the world, his lawyers checked out that the subpoena never even happened. so this crisis was forestalled. but we seem to be heading for another one. this time aimed at rod rosenstein, at least initially instead of bob mueller. >> just in terms of the reporting that the president is considering firing deputy attorney general rod rosenstein, do you feel like we're on the vernal of a saturday night

massacre here? what would be the point of firing rosenstein? it's not in order to have some sort of impact on mueller and the investigation? >> we're in a constitutional crisis. the president of the united states has made clear to those around him, those who are closest to him in the white house and among his friends that he is determined to shut down this investigation. and the moment he has chosen to actually act on it apparently is when the special prosecutor and other prosecutors have gotten a hold of his lawyer's computers. which have prapt evidence of real conspiracy between the president of the united states and others. or there could be exculpatory information there if, as the president maintains, and few even around him even believe, that there is no "there" there and this is really a witch hunt. we have a president of the united states willing to risk a constitutional crisis for this nation so he can avoid

legitimate investigation and letting the facts roll out the way they ought to to the end of an investigation. and if it's a witch hunt, there is plenty of time at the end, and there would be hell to play if anybody was conducting a witch hunt. this is no witch hunt. this is about a lawless president of the united states determined to avoid accountability. >> josh, would firing rosenstein necessarily get what the president likely wants? which is the ability to contain the special coup sell investigation? >> there are two prongs. he can set additional parameters. let's take the example of firing rod rosenstein. they put something in place who is actually going to do the president's bidding. that's one option. if they dissolve the special counsel completely, that doesn't make the investigation go away. so you saend the fbi agents hom and the prosecutors back to their districts, the case will still continue. if the fbi are in possession or

allegation of a crime, they tier not going to stop investigating. >> actually, i think that's overly optimistic about the work of the fbi. if robert mueller is fired and this investigation, you know, tblly still exists, but there's no one in charge of it, donald trump wins. >> i didn't say he didn't win. the counterintelligence agents at the fbi that are working the case, they don't simply go away. anticipate you don't shred your files and case closed. that actually requires a process. and if there's additional information, if there's an allegation that there's a crime, they don't simply stop investigating. >> but if there's nobody like a mueller running the investigation and with the powers that mueller has and the team that he has assembled, isn't it effectively over? >> of course. it would be over. you know, i mean, the idea that the fbi could sort of do this on its own is just -- it's not realistic, much as we admire the good work of the fbi.

sths why we have independence counsels and special counsels because they have to lead investigations that are independent of the political superstructure of the president's party. >> but jeff, in terms of the impact on mueller potentially of -- say rosenstein is fired, he would then be i assume replaced by the person under him who would then oversee the mueller investigation? >> at the moment -- we're in unchartered waters because there's no associated attorney general at this point. i think it would be the solicitor general or it could be another person designated by the attorney general to supervise mueller. but, you know, at least initially, i don't think would be any change in the mueller investigation. but if a new person came in and started restricting what mueller

could do, that would be a very serious limitation on his power. >> let me cut to the chase here, if i may. senator grassley, the republican in the judiciary today said it would be suicidal if trump were to fire mueller or try to shut down this investigation. according to the people i talk to who talk to trump, he's willing to take that bet. it is not suicidal from his point of view. what is suicidal perhaps from his point of view is to let this investigation run on and the facts become known to the american people. so he may be boetting that inded if he shuts down this investigation his base is strong enough and his appeal to that base that this has been a witch hunt is resonant enough that it can carry the day. and i would not necessarily bet against him carrying the day with that kind of message and the kind of cold sifrl war that's going on in this country right now.

that's been exasperated. >> he certainly set the scene for -- i mean, he's kind of been laying the table, setting the table for, you know, an assault against the fbi, an assault against the department of justice, whatever what form that might take. >> it's a campaign. a campaign under way essentially to discredit. and this shows you when you have the collusion of politics and law enforcement, this is the result. these are people that do this for a living ukt canning these political campaigns. so if you look at all the attacks, they're simply softening the ground, laying basically for this moment that we peer seeing right now. so if and when they do decide to remove mueller, to remove rosenstein, they can look back and say we told you these folks are corrupt from the beginning. >> if donald trump runs the republican party, if he were to fire mueller, at least in terms of what the republicans would do, paul ryan would say i'm very concerned and marco rubio would issue a statement saying i'm very concerned about this and nothing would happen. >> we've got to take a quick

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armor all, it's easy to look good. raids by president trump's private attorney is now causing concern that rod rosenstein will be fired. explain what you know about this meeting, the timing of it. >> let me set the scene. the president's team had a scheduled meetlinging ro rob earth mueller's team to discuss what they've been talking about the, the if the having a potential interview with robert muler's intvestigators and how that might happen. so in the middle of these preparations, we're told that they learned that this raid was going on in new york where three locations connected to michael cohen, the president's personal attorney were being raided by

the fbi. so obviously this, we're told, was made for a very, very awkward meeting. obviously these are very sensitive negotiations that have been protracted for some time, trying to decide when and how, if president frufrp would sit down for an interview with robert mueller. and then in the middle of all of this, they learn that the president's attorneys, his residents, his hotel room and his office were being raided. and obviously now everything changed. we're told that no decision has been made as to whether or not that interview will go forward, anderson. we got a statement from jay sekulow who declined to comment. he said we do not discuss conversations we've had with the special counsel. >> so it's not clear if the president is reconsidering or considering still sitting down with the special koun snell. >> we're told that this raid definitely has upended those discussions. i think people we've talked to have told us that it certainly

is making them reassess whether or not anything that came about from this raid, whether that changes the calculations for the president. after all, michael cohen's most important client is president trump. so if there's materials that were recovered here by the fbi, that changes the calculations. they're going to have to take that into account. >> thanks very much. let's get right back to the panel. josh, i saw a tweet you sent it earlier today, you said you were talking to a former colleague of yours at the fbi about search warrants being issued on an attorney's office. and just -- what did your former colleague say about this the? >> how rare it is. what he was saying in his kwib of 20 years in law enforcement, the number of times i've seen where an attorney has had their premises search has been searched. it's rare. then he added, all those attorneys wept to prison. we talked at length about how big of a deal it is and how many hurdles you have to go through, how much approval has to be in

place before you would have something like that take place. it shows it's a big deal. it shows it means jail time sometimes. >> now that 24 hours have passed since we learned about this raid, can you put into context josh's point, how unusual this is. i mean, after a while, it just seems normal. okay, the fbi raided the president attorney's home, office and hotel room where he happened to be staying. in the big picture, how nuts is this? >> well, i mean, it is just so unusual. and josh, you know was certainly right in his exchange with his former colleague in the fbi. it is very difficult to search a lawyer's office in a constitutionally protected -- permissible way. because so much of what lawyers do is covered by the attorney-client privilege. and even if you have a search warrant, you don't have the

right to read materials that are covered by the attorney-client privilege. and the way the government usually deals with this problem is they bring in a separate team called the taint team who looks through all this material, decides what's privileged and then withholds that from the actual investigators. so the investigators who are investigating michael cohen, they don't see the fruits of the search right away. it has to go through this paint team first, which is a very come bersome and difficult process, something the government certainly wants to avoid as much as possible. an they do very, very rarely. when i was an assistant u.s. attorney, i had situations where i wanted to subpoena a lawyer, which is, you know, a much less intrusive phenomenon, and that had to go to main justice, the united states -- you know, the washington headquarters, not in brooklyn where i was. to get approval.

a search warrant is far more intrusive than a subpoena and it happens very, very rarely. >> it eels also extraordinary when you consider the potential importance of michael cohen to everything that donald trump essentially has done in the time that michael cohen has worked for him. he's described im h as the fix-it man, his friend have described him as donald trump's fixer. if it's true that he paid stormy daniels $130,000, or as he said facilitated a payment using his own money with no -- without even informing his client donald trump, there's no telling how many other sorts of interesting arrangements he has been involved with, whether, you know, donald trump knew about it or allegedly didn't know about it. >> this raid is not about as trump would have it, the civil liberties of his lawyer. this raid is about scaring the hell out of the president of the united states, because he knows

better than anyone what eh and his lawyer have discussed, communicated about. and this has been trump's biggest nightmare throughout this investigation. has it crossed a line? it has. it's crossed a line in which trump can no longer, according to people close to him, can no longer afford to let the factual basis of this investigation go forward. we now have a president of the united states who is willing to undermine the concept that no one is above the rule of law in this country, incloo you hadding the president. he is willing to throw that away and undermine our national security ir redeemably and ir revically in this country be i shutting down this investigation. that's where we are. let me add one thing that jeff said. and that has to do with this tainted process of looking at the fruits of the raid. if those investigators find

evidence of criminality, suggested criminality and conspiracy between the president and his lawyer, that goes back to the investigator. if it's related to russia in any way. that's also a huge factor. constitutional crisis. >> jeff? >> i wanted to make that point. remember what the president said. this search was an attack on america. that's what he -- remember, he used that term. that gives you some sense of how he views himself at this point. it's an authoritarian vision of the united states at this point. >> i want to thank everybody. coming up what some republican lawmakers are saying today about whether they think the president should try to fire mueller. we eel hear from senator richard blumenthal. and you don't have time for a cracked windshield.

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>> there's new reporting that trump has said as recent as december that the mueller investigation has to be shut down. will the president try to fire bob mueller? sarah sanders said the president feels he has the power to do that. here's what some on capitol hill had to say today about that news. >> mueller should be allowed to fin ir his job. i think that's the view of most people in congress. >> i think it would be suicide for the president to fire him. i think the less the president says about this the better off he will be. >> i'm not concerned he'll fire mueller. i don't think he'll fire rosenstein. i'm confident that would be the beginning of the end of his presidency. he's not going to do that. >> that would be a mistake.

the best thing for the president and the country would be to allow mueller to continue his work. >> i think the president is too smart to do that. >> honestly, i am not that concerned. i don't believe the president would do that. >> well, joining me now is senator richard blumenthal. this word now that the president wanted to fire mueller back in december. if he wanted to do it then, is there any reason to believe he wouldn'tle also want to do it no uh? >> he certainly wow much more reason to do it no uh. this raid on his lawyer's office is like a nuclear strike with multiple warheads. the awe it is audacity of this the need for it demonstrates his lawyer not only has evidence of a crime, possibly implicating the president, fwu also that he was thought likely to destroy or conceal that evidence. otherwise the judge would not

have granted that warrant. and so the imp will i cases for the president are absolutely pr profound and he is going through internal upheaval and turmoil that's giving rise to these reports from cnn that he's contemplating firing rod rosenstein. and remember, that warrant had to be approved at multiple levels in the department of justice by appointees of trump himself. so they signed off with the main officials of justice and the southern district of new york. >> what happens if the president fires rosenstein. would it be safer politically? >> that is an excellent question. i think that firing rod rosenstein would provoke much of the same reaction from my

republican as well as democratic colleagues, one of outrage and intense opposition. and i welcome my republican colleagues saying it won't happen, it can't happen. he's too smart to do it. but we know that the president can be impulsive and rash. and i hope they are not in denial. in the meantime, i have worked and talked to my republican colleagues privately behind the scenes because i think we are gaining momentum for legislation that i've sponsored along with senator graham and till lis to make sure the president is prevented from firing robert mueller whatever happens to rod rosenstein. >> reaching out to discuss options so they tier not blind sided. were you aware these discussions were going on? >> we had rumors.

we heard those kinds of informal reports. there are a lot of swirling sorts of rumors here on capitol hill. and i think there's a sense of intense alarm here that is unparalleled during this presidency. there is a sense of impending catastrophe if the president follows through on some of the threats that he apparently has made privately to his own staf. that communication between the white house and capitol hill has been very much behind the scenes. but i think now? is the time for my republican colleagues to stand up and speak out and say not only that they doubt it will happen, but that firing rod rosenstein or robert mueller would provoke a constitutional firestorm that will engulf this presidency and would bring it down. >> let me ask you about that. there are a lot of folks who have not lived through a constitutional crisis or

firestorm or catastrophe like this what would that mean in terms of nuts and bolts? what happens? >> i think there would be in effect a shutting double play of the united states senate. if the president of the united states embarks on an illegal course of action, there would be a response on both sides of the aisle that would meet it. and let's reflect on where we are right now. the president is talking about firing robert mueller directly. that is a contra venvention of existing statues. he's saying that statute is unconstitutional therefore he will take the law into his own

hands. i think that would provoke in effect a shutting down of the -- >> even by republicans? do you think there are enough republicans that would do that? >> my hope is that we will avoid that outcome. that's why i think republicans have to stand up and speak up now. but judging by their conversations with me, yes, i do believe that they would take action that might well be regarded as extreme right now. >> all right. senator richard blumenthal, appreciate it. thank you very much. up next, new whord that stormy daniels is now cooperating with investigators. that and more. the closer you get to home, the more you know the commute is worth it. you and that john deere tractor... you can keep dreaming up projects all the way home. it's a longer drive. but just like a john deere, it's worth it.

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the fbi raid targeted records due to payment of former porn star stormy daniels. karen mcdougal and she both claimed they had affairs with citizen trump. the white house has denied the affairs. a source tells us ms. daniels is cooperating with federal investigators look into her 2016 nondisclosure i agreement and the $130,000 hush money payment that was facilitated in michael cohen's words. joining me now is michael avenatti. first of all, you may not be able to talk about it, but this idea that she's cooperating with the feds, can you say anything about it? >> here's what i will say. we were contacted by various attorneys from the government that are looking into this. we're going to cooperate fully. we're going to be as user friendly as possible. we're going to respect the proce process. we understand the seriousness of

this. this took on a whole other level in the last 48 hours. >> can you say when you were con tangted? >> i'm not going to say when we were contacted. what i will say is we're going to cooperate and do whatever we can to assist that investigation. we're not going to require fbi raids to cooperate or tell the truth. our entire intent for the last five or six weeks of this case has been to expose the facts, expose the truth for the american people to learn as much as possible and what happened here. to the extent that we can assist in the investigation and accomplish that, that's what we're going to do. >> i just learned that stormy daniels is going to be appear on the kor of "penthouse" magazine in may. gave a lengthy interview. do you know anything about that? were you aware of that? >> i'm not going to get into what i was aware of or not aware of the appearance of the magazine, as far as the details or what was said or what was not said. >> okay.

we heard from michael cohen today to talked to don lemon. when asked he was woredried. he said i would be lying if i said i'm not. he said the agents were respectful and courteous, which is a far cry from the way the president described it, the agents break into his office. do you have any belief that what happened to michael cohen's office and hotel room and apartment or house is linked to what the president said just last week in which he indicated that michael cohen was his attorney but that he knew nothing about this, essentially saying that some people have suggested that that meant that attorney-client privilege would not have been involved because michael cohen was not acting as the president's attorney in whatever he did with stormy daniels. >> let me say a couple of things. first of all, while it may be good for cnn for michael

co-men to be speaking to don lemon, it's moronic. >> for michael cohen to be saying anything? >> any experienced attorney would tell a client not to be speaking to the press the day after the fbi executes three search warrants or your em hoes and office. when i heard this he actually spoke to don lemon i dwnt believe it until i saw don's report. it's beyond stupid. that's number one. i don't understand what he's doing. that's first. secondly, i still cannot believe that the president made these statements on air force one and effectively put his own personal attorney in the cross hairs by way of those statements. put the weight of the world really -- >> how are you saying the president put him in the cross hairs? >> by saying that he didn't know anything about it and basically referred everyone so michael cohen. and he has set michael cohen up to be the fall guy in my view. i said this last week. and there's now a false sense of

security, i think, on behalf of the president that michael cohen is going to take the false for this and he's going to be able to withstand this amount of pressure and heat. if you're going to have a fixer, there needs to be two attributes to that fixer. first of all, he better be really smart. or she. and secondly, he or she better be able to withstand a significant amount of pressure, a significant amount of heat and potentially go to prison for you. that's the best fixer you can possibly have. in my view, michael cohen doesn't fit either one of those requirements. >> for all his talk of being incredibly loyal to president trump and donald trump, being a guy who is the keeper of all the secrets, the tough guy. you don't believe that in the end he would go to jail for his client? >> i don't. i said this last night. >> if that, in fact, was a possibility. >> correct. i said this last night. i'm going to say it again. any guy in my experience who constantly has to tell you how

tough he is is not a tough guy, he's closer to a purse puppy than a tough guy. i'm going to stand behind these statements. the problem is this, and it's been a constant problem i think for mr. trump. over the last 20 years. eh has not surrounded hymn with the best and the brightest when it's come to lawyers and people around him. and you've seen that even more recently in the last 18 months. and now this is going to come home to roost as it relates to michael cohen. he picked the wrong fixer. he trusted too many personal secrets with michael cohen. and i think he's going to fold like a cheap deck of cards on mr. trump and the results are going to be very, very bad. >> appreciate your time very much. coming up, facebook ceo mark zuckerberg says he's sorry. we'll have more on what he said, everything from privacy to the special counsel investigation. need a change of scenery?

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facebook's mark zuckerberg said his company did not do enough to stop fake news and hate speech and foreign election interference and didn't do enough to protect his customers' privacy. he testified before the senate judiciary and commerce committees and in his testimony his company confirmed that the company is cooperating with robert mueller in the investigation into russian meddling in the election. and he apologized for mistakes that led to the scandal involving cambridge analytica. amy klobuchar asked about that scandal and a research agency of a russian control group that tried to disrupt the election. >> you've estimated roughly 126 million people may have been

shown content from a facebook page associated with the internet search agency. have you determined whether think of those people were the same facebook users whose data shared with cambridge analytica? are you able to make that determination? >> senator, we're investigating that now. we believe that it is entirely possible that there will be a connection there. >> earlier i spoke with senator klobuchar. were you satisfied with the answer to your question today, do you think he understands the severity and the political ramification of his platform. >> i think he does. and i was interested that he said there was a connection. that would point directly to the fact this cambridge analytica data off of facebook is somehow has some major overlap with what the russian troll factory was doing. and again, i think that what we learned today was that they know they have a major breach of

trust with their users, they know that they're going to have to have some privacy regulations in place and the whole question is going to be what those privacy rules are. but we just can't keep going and pretend they are just a site for cat videos and recipes. >> the answers that zuckerberg gave to the joint committee, do you think he was forthcoming in general with his answers and do you think this actually did move the ball forward when it comes to any kind of possible facebook oversight? >> well, i think two things. one, he has said that he believes that there should be some kind of rules of the road and regulations which means a law in place. we haven't been doing that. all we've heard from them for years is, well, no, we can self regulate, we're fine. and then the second thing is that he supported the honest ads act which is my bill with senator john mccain and warner which basically said you have to post all of these paid political ads so the press could see them and your opponents could see

them and that includes issue ad kmz is 90% of what the russians bought and have to have disclaimers. so he supported it. twitter joined them today in supporting our bill. and honestly, anderson, we were just stuck. we weren't picking up more republicans. so this makes a difference. and finally they are voluntarily posting all of the ads. so starting in june, we're going to start to be able to see them. so let's say you have a nra ad, well maybe they would run that in rural and people in the suburbs couldn't see that a candidate was being attacked for gun safety legislation. now they'll be able to see it. >> based on what you heard today, based on the information that you already knew, how concerned do you think facebook users should be when it comes to the integrity of the information that facebook has access to? >> i think they should be very concerned. every week the numbers go up. we started at 30 some million and now at 87 million that went

to cambridge analytica and that is more than the population of california, new york and texas combined. and now we know there is 126 million people whose information was somehow in the hands of the russian troll factory. so this is -- it keeps changing as they do their auditing. so of course everyone should be concerned. i think one of the questions i'm going to ask on the record is, is it possible that every american's data might have been shared and that just can't be and that is why we need rules for data breaches, so there could be notification if that occurs and also rules to make it easier that you can be able to keep your information private. >> not every senator who asked questions was part of the facebook generation and some senators more media -- or social media savvy than others. do you think that disparity got in the way of questioning zuckerberg? >> i saw some twitter feed out there from my colleagues and we'll leave that out there between you and me and the audience and senator shots and senator warner in this business before and we have a number of

us working on this for a long time. and i don't think that is an excuse. you can't use age as an excuse or cluelessness as an excuse about not doing something what b what is the biggest privacy concern and the biggest breach we've seen in a decade. you just can't do nothing. and that is why i think you'll see bills coming forward. i'm working on a bipartisan bill and start seeing ideas come forward of how to regulate the companies but the democracy work, the election work has to begin now. >> senator, appreciate your time. thank you so much. >> thank you. it is great to be on. coming up, new details on how willing the president may be to fire rod rosenstein.

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the day grumbling about the official who made the searches against his personal attorney. pamela brown has the latest. what are the thoughts on firing rosenstein or the statements. >> reporter: the president's consideration of firing rod rosenstein has gained urgency following the raid of the office of the president's personal lawyer michael cohen. sources familiar with this matter say this is one of several options on the table right now, including going so far as to fire attorney general jeff sessions as well. all of this is what the president is weighing. now officials say if trump's acts, rosenstein is the most likely target because installing a new deputy attorney general could provide the check on mueller trump has been seeking for quite sometime. now we should note that not all