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i got a whole hard drive that is just labeled, yikes! good morning. thank you so much for being. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. after the military strikes we are seeing acts of diplomacy hours after raining more than a hundred missiles in syria, leaders are calling for a new investigation by the bashar al aside regime. >> it will help dismantle the program, quote n a irreversible way. submarines are being launched. syria's most powerful ally russia has called on the united nations to condemn the military action but members of the
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security council rejected that resolution. syria says most of the missiles were intercepted and that some of the targets were left unscathed. the satellite images appear to dispute that showing some sides have been leveled. the pentagon says the strikes on the syria chemical weapon strikes sets back it for years but the administration issues -- >> dan merica is in our washington bureau with more. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. the fact that some of that fl s infrastructure was left standing. a warning that if assad continues to use chemical weapons. they could not say it included chlorine gas.
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they are confident that both chlorine wassed into in the attacks. democrats on capitol hill, while initially supportive of the attacks have now called on congress, called on president trump to come in front of them and present his future strategy for syria. this comes as they are promising future attacks if these chemical weapons continue. the use of chemical weapons continue. they are also calling on the trump administration together united nations and use the united nations as a venue for that diplomacy. what is remarkable here the u.n. ambassador nikki haley is more hawkish than many in the trump administration on this. take a listen to what she said yesterday on possible future attacks in syria. >> if the syrian rooegime uses
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this attack, we are locked and loaded. >> reporter: the president of the united states said yesterday it was mission accomplished. a message that harkaned back to what george w. bush said in the iraq war and said he regretted using that term. the use of haley's use of red line references back to what president obama said in 2013 saying they would use force if assad used chemical weapons and he backed off on that and went for a more peaceful resolution that president trump slammed him for area wen told at times that president trump has brought up president obama's failure to figure out the syrian crisis when what to do in the country. >> dan, thank you so much. syrian president is claiming a partial victory. in a meeting with russian law makes he says defense weapons supplied by moscow knocked down
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many of the allies' missiles and worth pointing out these are cold war relics from the soviet war era. u.s. military would refute the claim made by assad, nrk but th reliance of syria on russia. >> reporter: this is part of bashar al assad making a statement nothing disturbed them the last 24, 48 hours or so. remember the likelihood of soviet era and anti-aircraft systems being able to take out u.s., united kingdom and french missiles state-of-the-art missile guided highly unlikely obvious. either we believe the narrative from the russians they took about two-thirds of the missiles launched in the direction of syria. that would be staggering success
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for anti-missile technology or the pentagon with their satellite images of the before and after of the destruction which they have managed to have done ourselves telling the truth there. putting that all aside we are used to the syrian propaganda mission. assad walking to work through an empty but nicely mashed polished reception put out yesterday and the idea behind the life is normal pictures on state tv today and showing the damage, that is true, absolutely. at the same time, i think this has been a moment for the syrian regime to say businesses as normal isn't really changing. they are moving forward with motions of reconstruction. part of that strange meeting between bashar albuquerq assad he needs about $14 billion to start rebuilding the bits that he currently controls. it is really a war that
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continues regardless of this. the u.s. was quite clear that chemical weapons were the focus here as was the uk and france for six years and no interest in changing the balance of the syrian civil war and haven't the last 72 hours. the question is what is new red line? is it chlorine or saran and for its allies to think about never using chemical weapons again? back to you. >> good to see you. thank you for the insight there. lieutenant general mark hertling with us now and another analyst. thank you for being here. general, we just heard enter nik paton walsh. with where is the red line? >> i think it's been drawn.
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the fact that this attack was certainly an attempt to provide a deterrent for both mr. assad and the russian supporters under mr. putin to not use any chemical weapons before. as you said in your last segment, the implications of the use of any type of chemical weapons, whether it's chlorine, saran, blister, the mustard that assad have are devastating weapons and against a convention of international law. so i think the true red line has been drawn against the use of any weapons. i believe mr. assad and mr. putin now have -- are tee deterred from using them both in the future. >> juliet, do you agree with that that they are now deterred and beyond that, if that is true their deterred from using any chemical weapons, but what do we do from this point on? because it doesn't solve anything with the leader of that country with bashar al assad.
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>> exactly right. i think what we saw, at least friday night, was the challenges from going sort of a tactical campaign which was that. that was essentially to take out some sights and make a statement about the use of a chemical weapon to a more strategic mission. and that mission has a problem which is the general architecture of what is going on in syria which is assad is in power and the russians are supporting him has not changed and will not change without more engagement by the west which is something we and nor our allies want to do. i think what you're going to see is just a focus on chemical weapons as sort of this area where the west is going to insert its preferences and its policy to no i don't and russia and syria may or may not abide by it. in the end i don't think you're going to see many changes to the
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governance structure in syria to the civil war nor in the long term to the continuing reign, unfortunately, of assad. >> general, i want to read something that representative will heard of texas tweeted out. i think until assad leaves i think the broader roles. how plausible is it that there is any diplomatic effort that could persuade bashar al assad? >> i don't think there is interest. congressman herd has a fine point on this. this is a civil war and i think the determination by the president and this current administration is we are not going to get involved in this civil war no matter how heinous it is. we are looking more to stop the international movement of chemical weapons and the use of
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those weapons. it's interesting. the day after the attack by the coalition of the united states, the uk, and france, syria was right back at it bombing civilian targets with conventional weapons, taking strikes against women and children again, it just didn't happen to be with saran or chlorine glass. just as many people were dying in this conflict and the unfortunate part about this but a whole different procedure if you're involved in a civil war and when you're looking to displace by force a nation's leader. that is a whole lot different mission set than upholding international law and the use of chemical weapons. that is the different yadifferee between the two. >> if you are not displaying
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this leader, what are the options? >> two focuses that we will see in the future. so one is, of course, as the general is saying, simply a statement that the use of chemical weapons, whether saran or chlorine will be answered if it is used. chlorine is much more difficult to prohibit because it has, obviously, industrial uses, nations use chlorine all the time. so we just want to ensure that clear renee is not weaponized against the citizenry. and ensuring that isis neither has stronghoeds lds in the syrid iraq regions. so those two areas is our focus in syria but if anyone thinks that syria will change it's just not going to happen.
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>> general, real quickly, a believe that kim jong-un may be very close attention to what the u.s. is doing right now. how does what we are seeing in the last 24, 48 hours affect that whole event? >> again, it's the fact that the united states will stand up under president trump against the use of weapons of mass destruction which would this chemical and nuclear weapons are. these are outlawed weapons ots world stage and to use them in an attack is met by a force with a nation that has a significant amount of power, the united states. the precision of this strike, even though as july yet says, this was a tactical operation, the only strategy was to issue that message that we will stand up against the use of chemical weapons. but the precision of the weapons, the synchronization of the strike, the way the conduct of the operation was conducted in a very fierce and very short
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period of time are all signals, i think, to kim jong-un about the capabilities of the united states. >> general hertling and juliet cayenne, grateful to have your voices here. >> after the strike, others are pushing for an investigation of chemical weapons attacks in syria as the u.s. and russia debated over the air strikes at the u.n. that is ahead. and former fbi doctor james comey had a decision to make. send a letter to congress about hillary clinton's emails or do nothing. what he said he would do, if given another chance.
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you're on the wrong side of history. it is time for russia to get the message that president trump delivered last night, that you're known by the company you keep. >> 18 minutes past the hour right now. vice president pence there
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in peru. u.s. and uk and france pushing for the end of qechemical weapo. they want an independent investigation of the chemical weapons attack. >> there was a heated debate and failed attempt by russia to get the u.n. to condemn the attacks. >> cnn international diplomatic editor nic robertson is live from london right now. >> tell us more about the resolution being led by france and the pushback there from russia. >> reporter: well, it is going to face pushback from russia, absolutely. we had a prefor this earlier in the week when there was resolutions that the united states, backed by france and britain, tried to get through already which said that there should be an investigation into this attack in douma because, right now, you have the chemical weapons inspectors going into
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today, into damascus into that neighborhood of douma to have a look and see if chemical weapons were used. but that is the problem. they are going there to see if they were used and what the chemicals were. what the international community wanted and wanted this last week and proposing again to draft a resolution on the united nations on knowing there is no good knowing that chemicals was used because we know that and no good knowing what chemicals were actually used, but it's important to note who was responsible and to be able to apportion blame and, therefore, stop them from doing it again in the future. language on that resolution is going to have to be -- i would say exceptionally clever, if you l to try to break russia's support and stop russia playing a veto on it and that seems unlikely. russia dodged a bullet over the weekend in syria and just continue with assad -- using
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chemical weapons but continue on their agenda in syria propping assad up and killing off his opposition. >> nic robertson for us in moscow, thank you very much. james comey says even if sending his 2016 letter to congress he would still do it again. what he would say to hillary clinton. president trump's personal lawyer due in court tomorrow after the fbi raids on his home and his office. we will explain why michael cohen is expected there and at least where trump is concerned about this. this is the ocean. just listen. (vo) there's so much we want to show her. we needed a car that would last long enough to see it all. (avo) subaru outback. ninety eight percent are still on the road after 10 years.
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♪ drop off onya. pick up perry. and get to the store by five. on it. yes girls, i'm totally free this thursday. tell kat, to call carla, to confirm katrina is still coming. olly. you're up early on a sunday. 26 minutes past the 6:00 hour. we are grateful for it, though. thanks for keeping us company. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. happy sunday to you. >> former fbi director james comey said if he had to do it over he would send that pivotal 2014 that he would still send the letter whether it changes the outcome of the election or not. >> here is comey speaking with
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abc's george stephanopoulos. >> wasn't the decision to reveal fli influence by your assumption that hillary clinton was going to win and if she wins this comes out several weeks letter and taken that she is an legitimate president? >> it must have been. i don't remember consciously thinking about that but it must have been. i was operateing in a world hillary clinton was going to beat donald trump. i'm sure it was a factor. like i said i don't remember spelling it out about it had to have been she is going to be elected president and if i hide this from the american people, she will be illegitimate the moment this comes out. >> if you knew that letter would elect donald trump, you would still send it? i would. >> hillary clinton is convinced that that letter defeated her. what do you say to her? >> i hope not. i don't know. i honestly don't know. i sure hope not but the honest
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answer is it wouldn't change the way i think about it. my hope -- i didn't write the book for this reason -- but talking about leadership, it was important to tell the email story because it's me trying to figure out how to lead well, that people will read that story and try to put themselves in my shoes, try to realize that i'm not trying to help a candidate or hurt a candidate. i'm trying to do the right thing and you can come up with different conclusions, reasonable people would have chosen a different door for reasonable reasons, but it's just not fair to say we were doing it for some illegitimate reason. >> joining us now is brian stelter, cnn media correspondent and host of "reliable sources." it's interesting to hear him say i wasn't consciously thinking about it. maybe it was just already ingrained in my mind. he is basically saying it didn't taint my decision. your thoughts. >> you have to think back to the weeks before the 2016 presidential election how there was this consensus view, even among trump supporters, trump
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voters that clinton was the likely winner. comey saying he wasn't able to escape that feeling either. even the nation's top law enforcement officer might have been influenced in some way and in the back of his mind at least by the idea that clinton was the likely victor. >> so let me ask you, we have seen already some of the responses from the president on twitter and there has been a bit of a hiatus there for obvious reasons what has happened in syria and the strikes there. but the expectation that will pick up as this interview airs tonight and we see james comey for the next several days. >> yeah. this is going to be at least a week and a half long rollout and the expectation is that in these interviews, comey will share even more, both from the book and also parts that are not in this book. the stephanopoulos interview that you showed a five-hour long interview that stephanopoulos taped with comey and this is edited down to a one hour airing
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tonight. once the book is out all week he will continue to appear across television and radio and you have to imagine some feedback loop the president might responsible and the republican national committee will be responding and comey want to act to their rebuttals. we know the rnc has campaign out called lying comey to tear down his credibility and remind people even what democrats have said about comey in the past. he is of course a polarizing figure and something the rnc has taken advantage of. there are 850,000 copies of this book that have been printed and staggering number in the publishing world. i spoke with the head of the publisher and he said this is the largest first printeding we have done all year long. what makes that noticeable they printed "fire and fury." it becomes a smash hit and that book ultimately sold 2 million copies but started out at a much
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smaller level. the publisher in this case is expecting this to be a huge best seller and there are high expectations for comey at the publishing house and i think all the more reason there is a sense of dread about this book at the white house. >> i want to point out a point that nate silver made. here it is. if comey's decision to release the letter on october 28th was influenced by the interpretation at the polls that really ought to cut against his image as an honorable, principled decision maker. instead he was just being expedient and trying to save his own hide. do you agree with that? >> this was about difficult decision making so i think he will get pressed about this issue. the choices he made around the clinton investigation and whether they were the right
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choices or he regrets those choices. he is doing a town hall with our anderson cooper in a week and a half and i'm independence to see what that is like. first he is going to be sitting down with jake tapper and the first live interview on cable news and i think there is going to be questions, obviously, about trump but also about clinton because of these questions. it's almost like an alternative reality. if the comey letter had not come out, if the investigation had not been reopened, so many questions what would happen after that. there are many people, including clinton, herself, and jennifer palmieri i have on "reliable sources" it was the comey letter that tipped the election. >> catch brian stelter on "reliable sources" this morning on today at 11:00 a.m. eastern. he has been called the less cool version of hollywood's on screen fixer ray donovan and
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we expect president trump's personal lawyer to appear in federal court tomorrow following the fbi raid of his home, his office, his computer. >> cell phones, on and on and on. the issue? the recordings here. calls between michael cohen and another attorney that could bring big problems for cohen and possibly the president. >> cnn's brian todd explains why he is called the president's fixer. >> reporter: donald trump's personal law and confidant in serious trouble on several
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fronts. michael cohen is coming off a tumultuous week which included fbi raids on his home, office and hotel room and the news he has been a subject of a criminal investigation for months, as he prepares to follow a judge's order for him to go to court on monaco hen could be on the verge of making a legal hit in the service of one man. >> the next president of the united states. >> reporter: prosecutors say cohen has told at least one witness donald trump is his only client. for 12 years, cohen has been trump's personal attorney or as many call him, trump's fixer. one former trump campaign official says cohen is a less cool version of ray donovan, show time's hollywood fixer. but if cohen is less cool than donovan, observers say he is every bit as tenacious. >> it comes to threatening people and he carries a pistol and makes it clears he is a
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tough guy. >> reporter: to try to go facilitate business deals for his boss, observers say michael cohen doggedly delays the one characteristic values most. >> one thing more than than donald trump than loyalty and michael cohen has proved he will fight for trump the way trump likes and that is to hit back harder than you've been hit. >> reporter: the stormy daniels case has come under scrutiny and said he used his personal funds to give the porn star a payment before the 2018 elections. trump said he had no knowledge of the payment and something legal experts say is almost unheard of. >> its extraordinary and i would tell you 99.9% of the lawyers in america would never even contemplate doing this. >> reporter: cohen tells cnn his legal handling of the daniels case has been solid, air-tight and that he believes it's
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daniels who is now liable for millions in damages based on her conduct. but cohen is also being criticized from a pure public relations standpoint. >> i think the entire thing was either reckless, naive, or completely incompetent. >> crisis communications specialist michael rubin said it was a bad idea to believe paying daniels off would make her go away. what should cohen held trump? >> tell him this is not going to work. nothing they could have done to make this go away so dealing with it honestly is pretty much the only choice they have. >> reporter: cohen depends himself on that score as well telling us he hopes daniels and her attorney are enjoying their 15 minutes of fame and he thinks that will diminish significantly when a judgment is entered against her. as for the allegations of an affair, mr. cohen reiterated his strong denial of an affair on three separate occasions. brian todd, cnn, washington. >> joining us is errol louis and
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jack. you know the name, storm daniels' attorney. >> michael cohen is radioactive. anybody that had any contact with this man their information may now be in the hands of the fbi and there will be a lot of people who are going to be very, very nervous. more contact you had with him trg th during that time period the more at risk you are and we know who had the most contact and that is the president of the united states. >> "the new york times" is reporting that the president's advisers are more concerned about the cohen investigation being detrimental for the president than the mueller investigation. are you concerned about the
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cohen investigation? are you concerned about those recordings? >> i would be. i would say this. if you think about the mueller investigation on collusion with russia, it's proven to be nowhere as a dead-end. >> no, it hasn't been, jack. the investigation is not over. you start every answer -- i don't care if i ask you what time it is, you say there is no collusion! that is not an answer because the investigation is not do not. can we focus on the question. >> a year and a half into the investigation no prove of collusion which has been pointed out by many attorneys as not a crime to begin with. now we are going after michael cohen for criminal investigation which means he may have been doing with medallions for taxi cabs which is part of his business that was illegal. i would be worried if somebody raided my personal attorney just because you don't know what kind of records are in there of anybody and so i think there is a heavy handed tactic here that does put at risk the
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attorney-client relationship which is historically protected in america. to me it looks like a witch hunt going on. not certain but i'd say that time you look for one thing you could find another and that gives people uncertainty. >> errol, let's take personal and attorney and examine both of those, because personal, the judge asked on friday for mr. cohen's attorneys to point a name of any other client. they didn't have an answer to that so by 10:00 a.m. they have to produce that list. attorney, we have learned there was a secret warrant before the raid on monday. investigators seized emails from several of his email accounts and prosecutors say they found that he was doing little to no legal work. the significance there. >> that's right. the significance of that is michael cohen is an independent player. he is a very wealthy man. he has got business interests fl internationally and has taxi
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medallions, each medallion worth over a million dollars and he allegedly had at least business interests that involved hundreds of them. he is a very wealthy man and an independent player. to the extent he has said publicly that he acted without the president's knowledge. no, sir as his attorney but as a friend, as a fixer. as something. he may have run afoul of some campaign finance laws. he may have, in fact, done a bunch of stuff that needed to be recorded as benefiting the president or benefiting the campaign. there are other inconsistencies in some of his independent business work as well where he is making these deals and he is doing it on trump organization letterhead. in that case, is he working for the president? who is the client? is there a client? all of that stuff has to get straightened out. i think the judge was right to really press this person to come forward and explain exactly who
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he was and why he was doing what he did. >> jack, we know that part of this investigation focuses on possible bank fraud and possible wire fraud and possible campaign finance violations. we know that there could be significant time associated with at least a couple of those. if the pressure builds, we have talked about this legendary loyalty. do you think that michael cohen would flip? >> i don't think that he would flip and i don't think there is anything to flip about. that would be kind of implying the president is guilty of something of which i don't think he is. i think that michael cohen, as errol pointed out very accurately he is a businessman with business interests and something of a wheel or dealer and i don't tell i don't mean in a derogatory but a lot of plates spinning in the air and when you live in that world where there is international transactions and there is taxes and banks then you can trip up on something and it come back to haunt you.
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i think it's just going to all have to be unraveled. i think for the president, there is more -- could be more embarrassment than anything that is illegal. >> let's talk about this new "the washington post"/abc news poll out this morning checking the pulse of the approval rating for the president. 40% according to the new poll and respondents proof of tappro job the president is doing and 56% disapprove. 68% of women who responded to this poll personally disapprove of the president. do you think there is an effect -- cause and effect here? the reporting on stormy daniels and karen mcdougal and the responses to those women, and this number? >> i think that there probably is. i'm not sure -- i'd really have to get into the poll to figure out, okay, what is it that you
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need to do and to move the numbers around. i think that all politicians need to be sensitive to what we call the she issue, security, health, and education. i think the president, like any other politician, could do more to address those issues. i think on the rising cost of health care, the availability of it, education, making sure our schools are teaching kids and that they are safe, i think all of that has to be addressed by washington and you don't see a lot of movement on that -- on the legislative or the executive branch not as much as people would like to see. >> i'm glad you brought up policy because we haven't talked about policy in a while. errol, to you. we saw in the 2016 election that voters don't have to like the candidate they voting for. they have to dislike the opponent more. we know president trump is not on the ballot in 2018. what does this mean for republicans who are potentially? >> it's a real head wind in the
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face of everybody running under the president's banner, whether they are -- mostly republican, obviously. but some democrats as well. if you want to be associated with trump supporters and you've got this 68% kind of personal dislike number hanging over the elections, it's really going to be very tough. this is partly why i think you see a lot of folks dropping out and it's why the democrats feel energized and feel they can go straight to women voters, maybe take advantage of this awakening going around the country and the me too movement and really try to sort of use donald trump frankly at his terrible deplorable personal behavior and image, to try and score some political points. and it may seem a little bit unfair to sort of hold your local congress person accountable for the past bad behavior of the president, but not everything in politics is fair. >> finally, as we look ahead to what is happening tomorrow,
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michael avenatti says his client, stormy daniels, a possibility she will be in court there for the hearing with michael cohen. any expectation, jack, that that will have any real impact or is this that just avenatti taking advantage of this? >> i think he is enjoying this circus and i hope he doesn't get served by james comey. stormy daniels and james comey are peas in the pod. they are worried about national security and terrorism and job security and the president is focusing on that and not the stormy daniels of the world. >> i guess we could check the president's twitter account and see the last ten tweets what he is focused on. errol, jack, thank you both. they were talking about michael cohen there. he showed up, in a sense, on "saturday night live" last night and there was one big named star
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