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nuclear and missile tests in advance of summits with president trump and south korea. many unanswered questions remain. and in the middle of james comey's barnstorming book tour his infamous memos about his meetings with president trump get leaked. surprise, surprise. both sides immediately claim his memos support their views. plus, trump's lawyer rule roulette continues with michael cohen sidelines. in rides rudy giuliani claiming he can end the mueller probe in two weeks. and after a racial incident at a starbucks in philadelphia, the company is shutting down all 8,000 u.s. stores next month for a day of anti-bias training. but why not all their stores worldwide? and bill cosby's retrial for sexual assault is not a rerun. lots of new evidence, including five women who say cosby assaulted them, too. i'll talk to someone who testified to corroborate one of
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their stories, legendary book publisher judith regan is here. and today the country says good-bye to first lady extraordinaire barbara bush. first, a stunning announcement from north korea's state news agency. north korea will stop nuclear tests and launches of intercontinental ballistic missiles, it reads. kim jong-un said the nuclear test site has done its job. this news coming in the aftermath of a secret trip made by cia director mike pompeo to meet with kim over easter and coming prior to a meeting with president trump which is now in the works. the president, he tweeted last night, quote, this is very good news for north korea and the world. big progress. look forward to our summit. now keep that tweet on the screen for just a moment. notice what's missing. there is no reference to rocketman or little rocket man which is quite a change in the
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president's posture. surely you remember tweets like these. just a few months ago that were so bombastic and drew such sharp criticism from democrats and members of the establishment foreign policy community that senator edward markey, for example, tweeted that this bordered on presidential malpractice. and mrkey continued, quote, we cannot let this war of words result in an actual war. but i've got to ask. did president trump's tweets work? soon after trump's bellicose belittling of kim, north and south korea began communication both about the olympics and borders eventually beginning to negotiate a peace treaty to formally end the korean war after more than 60 years. now today's news. the substantive successes compared to the escalating tensions during the obama and bush years, they beg a question i raised in the past. is trump's approach actually working? and that leads me to today's
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poll question at smerconish.com. does president trump deserve credit for the announcement from kim jong-un that north korea will stop nuclear tests and launches of intercontinental ballistic missiles? of course, several other explanations for the recent progress have very little to do with president trump. the first and most obvious is that kim has now successfully built a nuclear arsenal. and whether president trump wants to admit it or not, north korea can now wage nuclear war. with that ability comes a large degree of security, especially in a relationship with a non-nuclear capable neighbor. it's also possible that china or russia have gotten kim's attention and positively influenced his behavior. or at the sanctions long in place are actually bringing north korea to its economic knees. "the new york times" korea correspondent today writes there's growing evidence that tough new sanctions imposed on north korea to stop its nuclear weapons and missile programs have begun to bite and bite hard. so which is it?
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fear of trump? the impact of sanctions? maybe a little of both? joining me is robert kelly, an american political analyst of inter-korean affairs and professor of political science at pusan university in south korea. his latest piece for the guardian is titled "north korea's nuclear pause -- grist for both doffs and hawks." professor kelly, what most explains the change we've just seen? >> i think the long-term pressure of sanctions, i think particularly the president has pushed china hard on this in the last 16 months or so. we know that china is the most important gateway for north korea to the global economy. the north korean economy, despite its talk is really -- and needs external contact. it puts pressure on the elites. and the president has pushed china on this a lot and the bellicose rhetoric scared the chinese and they are taking this
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more seriously than in the past. >> so you think the bellicose rhetoric had an impact on the chinese, and the chinese then leaned on the north koreans but you don't think -- you discount that trump's rhetoric had an impact on kim himself? >> it might have but there's really no empirical evidence to prove that one way or another. it's obvious the trump administration would like to claim that kind of credit. it's just so hard to know why the north koreans make the decisions they do. we know from the past they respond to bellicosity with their own. they have sort of legendary for the rhetoric they employ. so surprised me a lot if it was that. rather the chinese have been very concerned about north korea's testing record. very concerned about chernobyl-style event from the north korean testing site which is now sort of in real trouble. a tunnel collapse there. and that coupled with donald trump talking about warfare and t rest of it probably pushed the chinese to lean on the koreans a lot. >> maybe he should -- he is
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deserving of credit for having impacted the chinese in a way to act. the former advance man, i did advance for papa bush, bush 41, back in the day. the former advance man in me is very interested to see where is this going to take place, the kim/trump meeting, and how will it be staged? what are your thoughts? >> this is turning out to be a real tangle. it's increasingly apparent that when secretary of state pompeo met with the koreans this was the real sticking point. the easiest place would to be put it on the dmz border because that way both sides are close to their own friendly space. it would be remarkable if kim jong-un got on a plane and left the country. that's just something kim hasn't felt comfortable doing in a long time. might get overthrown in a coup. i've heard mongolia thrown around. switzerland and singapore. i have a feeling this is one of those if the kim/trump summit doesn't happen, this may be why. do what the two korean leaders
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are doing which is meet at panmunjom. >> what do you think comes out of the summit wherever and whenever it takes place? >> my sense is the north koreans are going to look for some deal for sanctions relief. there's evidence to suggest the sanctions are starting to bite. we don't know but there have been rumors for a while that oil has become more expensive in north korea. so this suggests that -- pardon me. this suggests that the north koreans are going to look for sanctions relief or some economic deal. the north koreans have wanted industrials on a joint industrial zone between the two koreas reopened. and in exchange for that, they might be willing to protract this test halt or give some inspection tour of their facilities. cameras back in there, back in the iaea, something like that. >> professor kelly, i'm appreciative of your analysis. i'm a little bummed the door is open behind you in south korea and there's been no action thus far.
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>> that's right. i left it open for just a little tension for the viewers but, no, my familiarly is not here tonight. >> can you roll it? come on. >> one of the greatest -- we're showing it right now, by the way. if you're wondering why i'm laughing. we're showing the old footage. >> sure. it's fun. >> all right. thank you, sir, fur your an analys analysis. what are your thoughts? tweet me at smerconish. i'll read some of the responses throughout the program. sanctions did not work. trash talking worked. joe ferraro, it's fair to ask, right? let me say this. if it had a different result, and if we'd been drawn even closer to the brink of nuclear disaster, what would people be saying? they'd be saying trump, he did it by calling him little rocket man. and i also note that the president is no longer using that moniker. so apparently he thinks it was successful and doesn't want to
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upset the apple cart. time for one more if i've got it real quick. give me a break. he's done with testing which means he's locked and loaded. alicia believes that strength comes from reaching that capability. and then i guess we've got to say, well, how did we allow him to get that far? glass half empty, glass half full. go to smerconish.com and answer the question of the day. does president trump deserve credit for this announcement by kim jong-un that north korea is going to stop its nuclear tests and launches of ballistic missiles? as michael cohen seems on the verge of being indicted, trump adds rudy giuliani and a pair of florida heavyweights to his legal team. where is all this heading? i'm going to ask alan dershowitz. metastatic breast cancer is relentless, but i'm relentless too.
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in drug stores nationwide. prevagen. the name to remember. i had a big introduction planned for professor alan dershowitz summarizing the crazy week this has been from a legal standpoint, but something just happened and so i asked them to take it out of the prompter and i'd rather just go with this on the fly. the president has just tweeted about michael cohen. can you put those tweets up and show everybody what he just said. "the new york times" and a third rate reporter maggie haberman known as a crooked h flunkie who i don't speak to and have nothing to do with are going out of their way to destroy michael cohen and his relationship with
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me in the hope that he will flip. they use nonexistent sources and a drunk, drugged up loser who hates michael, a fine person with a wonderful family. michael is a businessman for his own account/lawyer who i've always liked and respected. most people will flip if the government lets them out of trouble, even if it means lying or making up stories. sorry, i don't see michael doing that despite the horrible witch hunt and the dishonest media. alan dershowitz is the harvard law school emeritus professor. you're good on the fly. i'm sorry to catch you cold. but what's your reaction to what the president just tweeted? >> he's clearly sending a message of support to michael cohen. this is a struggle for the heart, soul and testimony of michael cohen. we know the government has incredible leverage over him. first because they raided his office and that raised some concerns.
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they are going to have to indict him. if they don't indict him, and just leave him alone, it will seem like the raid was unjustified. and he could face many, many, many years in prison. and we know that no matter how close a person is to another person, when you put them in the risk of imprisonment for many years, they will not only sing but sometimes compose. that is, they know the better the story, the better the deal. so even if you're innocent, you have to be worried about your friends flipping and elaborating on a story or making up stories. so i think this is an effort to send a message to cohen saying, be strong. i support you. and don't believe what you're reading in the newspapers. by the way, maggie haberman is a great journalist. i don't think the president is right in attacking her. >> that goes without saying. so professor, i read it the same way and i've just seen it for the first time as well. but i wonder, why would the president feel it necessary to wage a public campaign to
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convince michael cohen? >> oh, that's very simple. >> he had a conversation with michael just a couple days ago. >> very simple. he can't wage a private campaign because that could be obstruction of justice. whatever he says has to be in public. he can't call him or have his lawyers try to prevent him from testifying. the real hard issue is whether he could offer him a pardon or make it clear that he would get a pardon. there are some people who believe that the scooter libby pardon was such a message. i think scooter libby deserved to be pardoned and that was a pardon on the merits. but i think there are those who would look hard at the messages that the president is sending to cohen to be sure that he doesn't cross the line into obstruction of justice. and i think -- >> do you think if he said -- if he said these words to michael cohen in a private conversation,
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could that be interpreted as obstruction of justice? >> no, but if he said it in a private conversation, cohen could turn around and elaborate on what he said and make it seem like obstruction of justice. if he's going to say anything, and i don't think he should say anything, he's much better off doing it in writing and doing it in public so there's no ambiguity about what he said or about the tone because otherwise a prosecutor could take cohen and say, don't you think he actually offered you a bribe to not testify? and that would be an obstruction of justice. he has to be very, very careful about what he says and how he says it. i also think the decision to hire rudy giuliani, who is a great lawyer. i've been opposed to him in many cases. won some, lost some. nobody can doubt his terrific background as a lawyer. i think that also sends a message. maybe unintended message saying we have the southern district covered. we have a very strong lawyer. don't worry. we're standing behind you.
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don't worry. we're defending ourselves. we're not rolling over. so there are a lot of subtle messages being sent. the prosecution sends messages as well when they -- >> i want to ask you one more question. put that text -- pardon me, about michael cohen from the president back on the screen. maybe this is of significance. maybe it's not. there's a line in here, professor, where president trump says michael is a business man for his own account/lawyer who i have always liked and respected. why that line? michael is a businessman for his own account/lawyer. is that of some legal significance relative to privilege or am i reading too much into it? >> i think what he's saying is if michael cohen is in trouble for the medallions or whatever, that's his own problem. i had nothing to do with it. the lawyer part of it is to protect any lawyer/client communications. that issue is now in front of judge kimball wood who is also
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my former student, a terrific judge. she's going to have to make a decision as to who gets to make the vetting concerning whether or not their lawyer/client prif legend. i don't think the vetting should be done by fbi agents or u.s. attorneys. they have no right to read material that could turn out to be privileged. it should be done by a judge or magistrate. >> i denied you promotion of your book. can we put the jacket up there and give the professor a good promotion of the book. i went on the fly with the intro. >> i understand that. "trumped up -- how criminalization of political differences endangers democracy." professor, thank you. i appreciate your being here. thanks for rolling with me. >> sure. tweet me @smerconish. i'll read some responses throughout the course of the program. what do we got here? smerconish/dershowitz, give me a break. trump is laying the groundwork that when cohen sings it will
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all be a lie. he may be doing that because he says most people will flip if the government lets them out of trouble, even if it means lying or making up stories. so that very well could be the predicate that the president is laying. by the way, i have to ask this question. all this flip talk. is it grounded in any fact? did it come from anything that cohen has said thus far? or have these seeds been laid by people who want him to flip? just asking. up ahead -- after a young black man tries to use a bathroom at a starbucks in philadelphia without making a purchase, he and a friend end up in happenedcuffs. within a week the company announces a shutdown of all national starbucks for employee training. i've got a couple questions about all of this.
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by now you know two african-american men were arrested at a starbucks on april 12 here in my hometown of philadelphia, not far from where i'm located. after one themp asked to use the bathroom without first making a purchase. this video of their arrest posted on twitter went viral. over 11 million views. after a national outcry, starbucks announced all 8,000 of its american stores will be closed on may 29 so that its 175,000 employees can receive anti-bias training. now here's my question. does this incident represent a uniquely american problem? think about it. starbucks is closing 8,000 american locations for training but not the totality of its more than 12,000 worldwide. they clearly didn't think that the issue was limited to one starbucks at 18th and spruce streets. they didn't stop with all of philadelphia or all of pennsylvania. no, starbucks expanded to the entire united states. is that because the problem only
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exists here? or is it a pr move? because this is where the media outrage has been most heated? so either this is a uniquely american issue or starbucks is employing a pr stunt because it plays well at home. it has to be one or the other. joining me is "washington post" global opinions editor karen atia who had another take on the story under the headline "calling the police on black people isn't a starbucks problem, it's an american problem." karen, we came at this from slightly difference angles, but humor me for a moment on my issue. what do you think about starbucks closing only the u.s. locations? >> yeah, it's a really interesting point that you bring up. starbucks is an international brand, and one thing that is also international is anti-blackness and is racial bias. so it would be very interesting to figure out, you know, does
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this happen in its locations in europe, in airports? but for me, i agree in the sense that whether or not this is a pr move, look, an afternoon of racial bias training, and we don't even know exactly what is going to be entailed in that training is not going to solve the issue. what i argued in my piece for "the washington post" was that this is an american problem. so when you have white folks -- nonblack people of color that are so quick to call the police on black people in a particular space, knowing what we know about what can happen to black people after encounters with police, whether it be arrests, detentions or injury or even death, i think is what we really need to be talking about. so who is going to train not only the starbucks employees but who is going to train teachers refraining from calling the police on black kids in schools. who is going to train the mom and pop stores. real estate developers? landlords. really, i think america needs about 100 years worth of racial
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bias training. >> in your piece you ask white america, where can we be free? where can we be safe? where can we be black? >> yeah, that's a throwback to the pop singer who tweeted that perhaps two years ago after the footage of police brutality. that's really the fundamental question. for some reason, the starbucks incident has really sort of shaken me up and has shaken up a lot of my friends. starbucks has sort of branded itself as a place you can just go and sit and chill. i've gone to starbucks and have not bought anything and waited for friends or waited for meetings and had nothing happen to me, but it's this issue of where we can just be black and not have the cops called on us, not have -- not be kicked out of spaced. and it just really kind of has this eerie throwback to even a
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sort of segregation era feeling of we just don't belong, and the police can be callous for any moment. remember, these guys were only there for two minutes. two minutes. >> that's the stunning part. >> i had a caller to my radio program say something provocative. i asked the question, is implicit bias uniquely american? and a caller said to me what's uniquely american is the combination of implicit bias and a gun culture which adds another dynamic to all of this. you get the final word. go ahead. >> yeah, we live in a culture and a history where fear of black skin has been -- is as american as pie or baseball. and i think, you know, for us to be able to deal with this, the starbucks incident is just another long line of incidents where, again, force can be used to basically, as a form of social control. this is a form of social control with black people in public spaces and really, until we have
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this national, not only conversation but active steps to really treat black people as first class citizens, i am not sure that just one day of training is really going to help anything, unfortunately. >> karen attiah, thank you for being here from "the washington post." >> thank you, michael. we reached out repeatedly to starbucks for a comment on my question. why aren't all starbucks worldwide, but we never heard back. ides love to hear what they'd say in terms of explaining that decision. let's see what you're saying via my social media. there's a difference between implicit and explicit bias and while implicit bias is not a uniquely u.s. problem, it's a larger problem here than in other areas of the world. now, nick, i don't doubt that, but i don't know how you can substantiate it. i just don't know. i'm not that experienced. i watch enough football from overseas to know that some of these players of color have been
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subjected to all sorts of offensive statements and bias and discrimination. so to me, whatever it's going on here, it's not just uniquely american. we're reaching a worldwide audience right now. you can comment. go to smerconish.com and weigh in on the survey question. does president trump deserve credit for the announcement from kim jong-un that north korea will stop nuclear tests and launches of intercontinental ballistic missiles? still to come, at bill cosby's sexual assault retrial, model janice dickinson testified that cosby raped her back at lake tahoe. but it was not mentioned in her memoir. so her book publisher judith regan also testified to corroborate her story and judith joins me next. for leisure. so i go national, where i can choose any available upgrade
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much has changed in the sexual assault retrial of comedian bill cosby in montgomery county, pennsylvania, in which testimony is winding down. last year's ended in a mistrial after jurors deadlocked. this time the judge allowed the jurors to know the amount of the civil settlement paid to cosby's accuser andrea constand. $3.38 million. and where the first trial included only one other woman making a similar charge, this time, there were five. also the judge permitted the testimony of margarite jackson
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who testified that constand spoke of framing a celebrity. that's a claim that constand denies. here's something else different at krtrial number two. the testimony of famed book publisher judith regan. the prosecution called regan to bolster the testimony of one of the five additional accusers, janice dickinson who says cosby raped her in 1992. regan published a memoir that made no such mention of the incident. when she was cross-examined by mesereau, things got testy. judith regan joins me. her authors have included wally lamb, howard stern, sean hannity, michael moore and khloe kardashian to name just a few. she also famously conducted the 2006 o.j.imismson interview about the death of nicole brown simpson which finally aired last month on fox. she's the ceo of regan arts. judith, great to see you. what do you think happened to
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janice duk ickinson in lake tah? >> i don't know what happened. all i know is what she told me which is something she did in 2001, early 2002. we published her book in 2002. she was very upset when she told me the story. she told me he had drugged her and raped her and she was very, very clear about it. she was emotional. she was angry. she was sad and told me this story repeatedly because she begged me to include it in her book which we could not do because of any possible legal issues. the legal department at that time, they were much more conservative about including things like that and cosby had the reputation for being extremely litigeuous. it was their idea we not include that story in the book. she was very upset about that and worked with a collaborator and they re-created that part of the book and wrote what they chose to write about it. >> okay. the trial lawyer in me wants to
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say truth is a defense to defamation. so why not publish it on the basis that, hey, it's the truth and we can defend against it. >> that's a good question but in publishing houses, they are very, very conservative about publishing anything that might create litigation. litigation is expensive. it's really basically a business decision. and at the end of the day, the attorneys prevail. and it was their decision that we not include the story because of the potential for litigation. and marty singer who was bill cosby's attorney, was notorious for suing people. and the legal department felt that it was far too big a risk. it's a risk/benefit analysis. and their feeling was this is far too big of a business risk to take on a lawsuit, whether it's right or wrong, true or false. that's really not given careful enough consideration because the consideration at the end of the day is a business consideration.
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>> i wish i could see your footwear. i'm not sure if you're wearing quote/unquote gasoline stilettos. what the hell is this all about? put this up on the screen. after judith testified, the statement was released from cosby's spokesman andrew wyatt. st. peter has been given direct orders from jesus and his father not to let judith regan near the pearly gates. however, they have informed satan that he'll have a guest by the name of judith regan coming in on a rocket and she's wearing gasoline stilettos. how is the prose. would you publish that? >> no, it needs heavy editing. i think sigmund freud may have something to say about that. the pearly gates, me coming in on a rocket, wearing stilettos. these porn shoes. i didn't know what gasoline stilettos were. i had to look it up on google. they're these bizarre shoes that basically, you know, have heels
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that go up about eight inches and deform your feet. but i think it's a bizarre thing that a guy being accused of indecent assault kind of indecently verbally assaults me in this fashion. i thought it was so out of line and so strange and brazen and vulgar and disturbing. what do you think? >> i thought it was bizarre. that's the word that comes to my mind. and i know that it got testy when tom mesereau was cross-examining you. i want you to say a word about that, among other things we learned that apparently he wanted you to publish his book. >> he didn't want me to publish his book. we had an e-mail correspondence. i had sent him a note saying you've had an interesting career. is publishing a book something you'd ever consider. he sent me back a note with various details and also asking me for my advice, right?
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so this was a guy who in the courtroom really tried to smear me in essence in his questioning. he knew that, for instance, asking me, you know, were you trying to hide money with o.j. simpson and you worked at the national enquirer 40 years ago and didn't you lie and blah, blah, blah. the questions were very bizarre and he knew that they were never going to be allowed. but he wanted to smear me and throw mud at me. why, i don't know, because he very simply could have just said, although i testified that janice dickinson told me these things, i didn't experience these things firsthand. but instead he chose to just verbally assault me. they continued to verbally assault me, obviously, in this piece that you just quoted. and i just thought it was strange. here was a guy asking me for my advice on the one hand and in the courtroom, of course, took on a whole different persona. and i would say threw mud, you know, all over me and in a --
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i've been in lots of depositions. i've been in court. i've testified. i've never seen anything like this. i thought it was really unethical, unprofessional. it was bizarre. it was bizarre. the whole experience was bizarre. >> before you leave me, give me a gut check on where you see this thing going. because i thought with the five women coming in and paying close attention, albeit not in the courtroom, i thought the case had gone in well for the prosecution. then, of course, the cosby defense gets to introduce margarite jackson who told me she was going to make up something like this and at the end of the week cosby's defense included some evidence he was not even in the place where he could have committed the act. do you have an overview or gut check to offer? >> i think it's very hard to convict celebrities. i mean, we see this over and over again. and i interviewed o.j. simpson. that case is probably one of the more famous ones. but if you're famous, it's almost impossible. he does have good lawyers in terms of -- i find their
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all right. let's do this. time to see how you responded to today's survey question, smerconish.com. does president trump deserve credit for the announcement from kim jong-un that north korea will stop nuclear tests and launches of intercontinental ballistic missiles? the nos have it, pretty decisively. pretty harsh judgment. 64% saying no. 36% saying yes. i have to say i'm surprised. i don't know that i expected that the yeses would win out but i thought my guests' argument, whether he had a direct impact on kim jong-un or an impact on the chinese -- he meaning president trump because of hes -- his bel ichbellicose nature
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more sympathetic to that of the president than the audience. he gets the blame for all the problems in the world wiechl not take credit for something that goes right? surprised he didn't have something to do with the starbucks fichlt asco last week. bill, that's my point. had it brought us to. kim thought who the hell is this guy? i don't want to have to deal with him. maybe i should go to the table. hit me with another one. why would anyone believe anything kim jong-un says? dr. joe, you're right, only time will tell if this bears any fruit. he has reniged in the past. that's a point well taken. what's next? no, i would rather give credit to dennis rodman.
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i don't know. is that serious? deny dennis rodmania part from mike pompeo, the only other american that's been in the company of kim jong-un. i have to believe that the president's briefing will include -- not directly from rodman but something rodman may have given to our intelligence apparatus along the way. one more real quick if i can. smerconish and everyone else, i'm hoping his kids burst in again. mia i hope that wasn't lost on everybody, that my guest was the one that had that viral moment. there it is. i never get tired of watching this, especially because i do these own remotes myself. i always live in fear that it will be my miniature dachsund, mr. lucy, who will come crashing into the room barking while i'm doing a live hit with brooke baldwin. you can catch up with us any time on cnn go. wolf blitzer with live coverage of the funeral of former first lady barbara bush.
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♪ >> you're looking live at st. maarten's episcopal church in houston, texas, where an extraordinary service will begin soon, the funeral for former first lady barbara bush. i'm wolf blitzer. welcome to cnn's live coverage. former presidents and first ladies will be among the 1500 guests representing political dynasties back to the kennedys. president trump is not attending. the white house says he didn't want to be
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