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questions and a lot more moves by the house democrats to push this issue. kate? >> some democrats saying flatly they think it's politically motivated and they think it dates back to a prayer the chaplain made during the tax debate, hoping there wouldn't be winners and losers as a result of the tax code. thank you for joining me. "negotiate positive "inside politics" with john king starts now. >> thank you, kate. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. the german chancellor is inside the white house this hour. angela merkel's visit with president trump is frosty, the iran nuclear deal just one of their big disagreements. plus a stunning image and an even more likely promise.
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north korea vow the end of the sif civil war and coming and they vow to remove all nuclear weapons from the peninsula. and 2018's most important senate races. but first they need to sign something for a trump supporter to keep from going to prison. >> the reason the democrats want you out of here is because they think joe manchin will win easily. >> they don't want me there because they know i'm a complete trump supporter and we have to make a change, and they don't want that change to be made unless they're personally benefiting from it. >> back to that story in a moment. a packed hour ahead, including new word that the trurussian fra
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trump tower meeting says she's an informant. you see angela merkel at the white house with a tough sell. she's the european leader of kpl democracy. she wants the u.s. to stay in the iran nuclear deal. her task much tougher because of a simply mind-blowing development today, the promise from north korea to make peace. merkel, as macron was earlier this week, is here to tell the president his disruptive foreign policy won't work. the president has proved with the dnc overnight that his way is working just fine, thank you. what trumpism is or isn't in germany and across europe. the clock, of course, ticking on the iran question. the next deadline now just two weeks away, and the president told macron he's inclined to walk away from the deal unless significant new restrictions are added. iran says that's a non-starter.
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the european ally who helped broker this deal with the barack obama administration says it's a stretch to think any new additional framework can be worked out before the next deadline. with notice share their reporting and insight oz this big, big news day, cnn's dana bash, molly ball with "time" and abby phillips. we're going to get deeper into what we know and the questions of this beyond remarkable, i can't find the word, of this event in the korean peninsula. as angela merkel comes into town on a friday, trying to convince the president to stay in the iran deal, telling him your way is wrong, sir. he can sit there next to her and tell her, i told you so. >> i think in some ways he's probably earned that. the last six months or so, there was a lot of hammering about what was the strategy here behind the rhetoric about north
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korea, did he really know what he was going to do, or was this even going to pan out, and now here we are and he feels like what he was able to do was force north korea to the table and that he hazs matured into his leadership on the world stage. so at the very least, it puts him a little on more even footing with angela merkel compared to where he was when he first got into office. that being said, on the iran deal, the president's position on iran is less based on policy and more based off the desire to fulfill political promises to his base and a desire to not seem like his predecessor who has almost nothing to do with a strategy for iran and a strategy for the region. >> i agree with all of that, but i also think when you compare these two leaders, if donald trump is the sort of shoot from the hip don't have a strategy sort of foreign policy person, angela merkel is the ultimate in
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hard-eyed realist. she's been around and she understands that north korea -- these are amazing images, no doubt, but we don't know where they're going to lead. so to the extent that donald trump is sort of feeling like, hey, i've got a real success here, i think she is likely to be telling him privately, there is a long way to go and we've been down this road before. and it's not clear that any of these things are going to actually happen. >> and oddly, the biggest point of contention between the two of them is iran, and the president sitting next to president macron earlier in the week essentially threatened iran saying, if you do anything, you'll regret it. that's something merkel does not like. she doesn't like that type of language. she thinks we should work out these things politely. we don't know what's happening in north korea, but if we can help the president think through the challenges and rewards, it's angela merkel who has lived through the global experience.
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when you're looking at north korea, there is angela merkel being democrat counselor of united germany sitting next to the biggest power in america, the president of the united states. >> there is that which is such an important point, and if the president is willing to listen and hasn't been made aware of that as part -- it should be part of the discussions, it will be interesting to see what comes out of that. >> he's not always a student of history. >> thank you. i was trying to dance around it, but that's a more specific way of saying it. look, also, angela merkel, as you mentioned, she is the longest serving of these european powerhouses. to her detriment. she barely won reelection. macron is new up right along with donald trump. so if the president, again, can get around the fact that the two have such different personalities, such different leadership styles, they could not be more different, and maybe learn from that and listen to
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not only her experience with the reunification of germany, but more broadly, governing in europe in the past decade plus, it will be interesting. and also just think about the juxtaposition of north korea and iran. here he is puffing himself out that he's even gotten the koreans this far, and that he wants to meet with them to talk about a deal about their nuclear program, and that's out of one side of his mouth. and the other side saying the deal to end iran's nuclear program done by my predecessor i want to rip up. so how and why would north korea listen to the president when he's doing something else for iran? >> i think he could get a deal as good as the iran deal with north korea. >> part of this seems to be the iran deal is obama's and the korean, whatever we get, the negotiations are his. but that's personal for the
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president. in any negotiation, is there any indication, any likelihood that the president's critics, angela merkel chief among them on the world stage, might have to say, you know what? locked and loaded, fire and fury. we didn't like that, but okay, you win. round one. we're nowhere near the finish line here, but how big of the credit pie does president trump get? he gets a piece. he gets a bigger piece. >> if i'm angela merkel, that's an opening to say, you did this, you don't have to cancel the iran deal. here's your foreign policy victory, and by the way, it was done for you unilaterally. the president having kind words for president xi this morning. maybe not the donald trump on the campaign trail buttering up china, but it's by countries working together to rein in bad actors that you get things like this resulting in north korea, and potentially you get things
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like the iran deal and that's why it's worth preservinpreserv. trump so far has not really seemed to want to rip up the iran deal. he could have done it on day one if he wanted to. not only has he not, he has repeatedly authorized it. so despite his grumbling, which abby said may be political, he has not taken the action in part because there's other actors in the administration who support preserving it. if she can give him an argument that satisfies his ego essentially, then it might be a p pretext he's willing to take. >> you're on a high right now. let's not mess with it, let's build on it. the president just said, we take russian aggression very seriously. he just said i want to work with the european allies to strengthen this alliance. it will be interesting to see if mike pompeo -- people say he's a hawk and wants to rip up the iran deal, but he was also once in favor of the regime change in
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north korea with kim jong-un. we'll hear from angela merkel in the oval office in just a moment. the headline a little bit earlier with, who will win the west, with merkel and macron with the firebrand. look at the headlines for macron. macron seduces congress. lamont. macron points out differences between he and the president. despite the handshakes and kisses, macron knew he was going home and he was much more critical of trump. in the short term, he understands policy, but in the long term, it's insane. >> time will tell how this works out for macron, because it isn't clear whether his strategy with trump was ultimately successful, whether trump is going to feel burned by his comments on the way out.
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>> macron as a new politician, often their initial approach to foreign policy is based on personal relationships. and they grow to understand, as merkel has, that much of the sort of country-to-country relationship is based on shared interest. those are what's more important. >> the president of the united states and the chancellor of germany. >> it's a great honor to have chancellor merkel, and you can rest assured she was going to win that election, and congratulations on winning. it was a great victory. we're working on a lot of different subjects, including trade, including nato, including military of all types, and we have a really great relationship. and we actually have had a great relationship right from the
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beginning, but some people didn't understand that. but we understand it, and that's what's important. but very extraordinary woman. and it's an honor to have you at the white house. thank you very much, angela. [ speaking german ] >> translator: thank you very much, thank you very much for this very warm reception and your words of congratulations. we took some time to build the government, that is certainly true, but that's why it was very important on this first visit outside of europe to come to the united states, to come to washington in order to yet again on the line we wish to deepen our relationship further, and i very much am looking forward to the very good talks i trust we will have today. >> thank you very much. i appreciate it.
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[ inaudible question ] >> we're honored. it was a great report. no collusion, no coordination, no nothing. it's a witch hunt. that's all it is. there was no collusion with russia, if you can believe this one. you probably can't believe it. who can? the report was very positive, very strong. there was no collusion between the trump campaign and the russian people. as i've said many times before, iver always said there was no collusion, but i've also said there's been nobody tougher on russia than me. with that all being said, if we can get along with russia, that's a good thing, not a bad thing. but there's been nobody tougher on russia than me. i was very honored by the report. it was conclusive, strong, powerful, many things said that nobody knew about and said in a very strong way. they were very forceful in saying that the clinton campaign actually did contribute to russia.
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so maybe somebody ought to look at that. but what we really should do is get on with our lives and get on with some great things. we have great things happening potentially with north korea. angela, as you see, a lot of very positive things happened over the last 24 hours. we're in total touch with both north korea and south korea. we'll be setting up a meeting very shortly. we have it broken down to probably two sites now, two or three sites, locations. hopefully we're going to have great success. we'll see what happens, but hopefully we'll have great success. president moon and i are speaking, and we're speaking very much with south korea and with north korea. the relationships are building and building strongly, and this will be a great thing for the world. this will be a great thing for germany, but this will be a great thing for the world. angela and i have discussed this over the period of the last 15 months quite a bit, north korea, the north korean problem, and i think you're seeing that a lot of very positive things are
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happening. >> are you going to talk about iran today, mr. president? >> i think we'll talk about iran but i don't expect it one way or another. i know we'll have a very good discussion on iran. as i did with emmanuel, the president of france. so we'll be having discussions on iran, we'll be having discussions on trade, we'll be having various discussions. [ inaudible question ] >> i don't think he's playing, no, i don't think he's playing. it's never gone like this. it's never gone this far. i don't think it's ever had this enthusiasm for them wanting to make a deal. i agree, the united states has been played beautifully, like a fiddle, because you had a different kind of a leader. we're not going to be played, okay? we're going to hopefully make a deal. if we don't, that's fine. the united states in the past was played like a fiddle. money going in and nobody knew what was happening. the day after an arrangement was
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made, you could call it a deal but i doubt it. an arrangement was made and they started with nuclear weapons again. that's not happening with us. we will, i think, come up with a solution. and if we don't, we leave the room. with great respect we leave the room and keep it going. i also will tell you that president xi of china has been very helpful at the border, and i want to acknowledge that. i think it's very important to acknowledge. but president xi has been extremely helpful to me. we have a very good relationship. he's been extremely helpful to me at the border. so we'll see where it all goes, but no, this isn't like past administrations. we don't play games. thank you very much, everybody. >> let's go, make your way out! let's go, guys! make your way out! let's go! >> you said this week that you weren't interested in a meeting
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with the doj but that might change? >> thank you very much, everyone. thank you. >> remarkable moment there, remarkable moments there. the president of the united states and chancellor of germany, angela merkel, in the oval office. wow on every front. number one, the president saying he did not think kim jong-un was trying to play the united states or the world when he promises to make peace with the koreans. also the new house committee report, democrats say it's a sham and it proves no collusion. the president was happy to talk about that at the top. he will be talking about trade and iran and other things with angela merkel. the substance was there but also the body language. these are two leaders that the last time and ever since has been frosty. she seems to be in good spirits about it. the president says his mood can set his day. he's in a good mood about what happened with the korean peninsula, but that was a very different donald trump sitting next to the german chancellor,
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and she was actually more friendly than she has in the past as well. >> that was immediately striking, and it's clear both of them have a lot to lose by being frosty as they were in the past, and a lot to gain by warming to one another. she obviously has a lot of experience with this kind of thing. she did barely win reelection. and she does have a very tough task at home as well as on the world stage. and look, this is the president of the united states. she clearly, you know, is not necessarily the biggest fan, but he's the guy she's got to deal with, and she was -- it was very obvious by her body language, sort of by the look on her face that she knows she's in it. in two handshakes. i know we're kind of counting handshakes because of macron on more than one occasion. but these two, nothing. >> he congratulated her election
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victory. if she catches him in a good mood, that would be nice as well. >> she and barack obama were very friendly and she saw what that -- >> with the backrub. >> right, with the backrub, and i don't know if she wants to concede everything to the president of france. >> over in europe, she still wants to be the boss, if you will. a lot more to digest. a day in the history books on the korean peninsula, but just who should get the credit?
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south, bitter enemies still on paper, doing something they've never done before. standing together in the demilitarized zone, joining hands, talking together, walking side by side, even exchanging jokes. the north says there will be no war on the peninsula. later this year they plan to officially end the korean war. plus they say they're committed to demilitarizing the peninsula. here's donald trump, of course, taking some credit. >> on this occasion of president moon and kim jong-un, i want to express my hope that all of the people of north korea, north korea and south, can someday live in harmony, prosperity and peace. and it looks like it could happen. when i began, people were saying that was an impossibility. they said there were two alternatives. let them have what they have or go to war. and now we have a much better
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alternative than anybody ever thought even possible. >> cnn's will ripley live for us in seoul. will, we're thrilled to have the chance to talk to you on this day where, for gifr give me, i like i'm in a parallel universe. you've been to north korea more than anyone else in the reporting business. did you ever think you would hear and see what you heard and saw today? >> reporter: it was pretty remarkable. even moon and kim jong-un talked in front of the press. he had the press in front of him and he seemed almost completely at ease, almost like the politician many decades his senior, pulling president moon from the demarcation line
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briefly. president moon got what he wanted out of this today. the commitment to total denuclearization, a pretty general statement but light on the details. we don't know still what north korea's definition of denuclearization actually is. also this pledge to bring the end of the korean war which can only happen if china, the united states and the united nations are involved. it's a pledge but still a lot to be done to make that a reality. kim -- president moon said he would make a trip to pyongyang. now the ball is in trump's court, john. if he pours cold water on this peaceful meeting that came out of the summit, then it's up to
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him what happens. will ripley at this historical meeting in seoul, south korea. we' >> we'll see how this plays outgoing forward, but what you see is definitely progress. she said she was there to discussion adoption. now the russian lawyer says she's really close with the kremlin. just listen. (vo) there's so much we want to show her. we needed a car that would last long enough to see it all. (avo) subaru outback. ninety eight percent are still on the road after 10 years. come on mom, let's go!
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since 2013, i have been actively communicating with the office of the russian prosecutor general. that is in direct correlation to what she told senate members. now there is contention in the house committee, releasing a report that said the panel found no collusion between the trump campaign and the russians. the panel said they deliberately didn't look too hard. shimon, the big question about this attorney and her connection with the kremlin is was she playing the trump campaign? did she get access to them and they were unwitting, they didn't know what was happening, or were they playing along? did they know who she was and was this part of a conspiracy? >> john, that is the big question, and as we know, robert mueller, the special counsel, has been asking questions about this meeting of people who appeared beforehand. he has been seeking records about meetings, e-mails, phone conversations, text messages. this meeting really created a
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lot of headaches for the president, for his family, right, the big one in that meeting that happened in june 2016 was don jr. it was set up through an intermediary that he was involved in. so certainly this meeting, the questions surrounding it and what this was really about, has been a focus of the special counsel investigation. and quite honestly, while people in the meeting said, well, initially it started out as her promising dirt on the hillary clinton campaign, it then turned into questions about the sanctions in the magninsky act. there are a lot of questions that have yet to be answered, and hopefully the special counsel includes his investigation, and maybe we'll get more answers on exactly what this meeting was about. >> we see in the cnbc meeting she's being much more open saying, yeah, i'm close to the
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russian government. is that a surprise to them or have people long known this? >> people have long known this in the intelligence committee, and congress who have been looking at this have known. this is certainly not a surprise to anyone we have talked to about this. what is surprising is that she has admitted this. for so long she has been denying that she was working for the russian government in any capacity. in fact, she claimed she was there as a private attorney in the end concerning sanctions. but to have her admit this, finally, is certainly the news here and certainly a different stance than what she's been saying for quite some time. >> shimon prokupecz, appreciate the reporting and the context there. again, if you're a trump critic and you believe there's been collusion, you say, aha. now she admits she's close to the kremlin. she's in the room with donald
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jr., gotcha. but the house intelligence committee comes out with a report today that says, while the committee found no evidence that the trump campaign colluded, coordinated or conspired with the russian government, the investigation did find poor judgment in ill-considered actions by the trump and clinton campaigns. a russian lawyer falsely reported to have damaging information on the clinton campaign showed poor judgment. house republicans saying, dumb, shouldn't have done it, naive, but not a crime, not treason. >> there's no question it was poor judgment. now it's just more stunning evidence that it was poor judgment, because we have her admitting the obvious, admitting that she had worked hand in glove with the kremlin. >> i want to go back to the top of what they're trying to show
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me here. new breaking news just in related to all of this. paul manafort has been in court challenging the investigation. he lost his lawsuit claiming rod rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, and robert mueller used poor judgment. they cannot stop this investigation from continuing. the two tracks we've been on for a long time, they do seem to be moving. the democrats say it's a partisan waste of time led by the republicans. that's out. manafort still under investigation and the court now saying, back off. bob mueller still has the authority to do what he's doing. >> and that's potentially important in the future, because as we've discussed a lot, mueller can only be fired for cause, a cause, and one of the causes that's been talked about is this idea he's exceeded his mandate, he's gone far afield, he hasn't
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done what he was supposed to do. so that could be relevant when and if the president tries to take action againstrosenstein or mueller. >> if you look at polling, republicans are more and more skeptical to the special counsel. so the president is shoring up his base. if it ends up in a court of law, all that could change when you're in legal proceedings. here in the oval office a short time ago, the president is not going to list ton democrats who say the republicans didn't try too hard, they didn't bring in witnesses we wanted to talk to. the president talks about the conclusion of the report and says this. >> we were honored. no collusion, no coordination, no nothing. it's a witch hunt, that's all it is. there was no collusion with russia, if you can believe this
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one. you probably can't believe it, who can? but the report was very strong, very powerful. there was no collusion between the trump campaign and the russian people. as i've said many times before, i've always said there was no collusion, but i've also said there's been nobody tougher on russia than me. with that all being said, if we can get along -- >> actually, mr. president, i can believe it because it's happening all over europe. >> the lean into merkel was priceless because the russians are in just about every election in europe. to that point, the audience the president speaks to most, it's, for him, a day to celebrate. >> it is, but i also think we're at the point in this where people's views on the special counsel and this russia investigation are just so closely tied to their partisan identification. there is almost nothing that can come out at this point that will change people's minds, certainly not the president's. he's made up his mind and has
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had it made up for quite some time now. nothing is going to change that. >> can we briefly bring it around to how you started the segment with this russian lawyer, natalia skaya -- did i do that right -- that she's admitting she's in cahoots with the kremlin. that is at the core of this investigation, whether there is collusion. as mueller was saying, we didn't know it was clear, mueller knows it's clear, which is another indication that we don't know where mueller is going. he could get closer to collusion than we think. >> what we see and what the house committee decided to accept was just individual instances like this one that they claim judgment on. what mueller is doing is connecting dots. he's creating a narrative, he's following a thread that has all sorts of dots and then coming to a conclusion. >> mueller matters much more in the long run. the president politically in the
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the campaign, but it's still beating economists' predictions. some of the biggest stars of the winter games said no thanks to the invitation to photo op. for example, lindsey vonn and others say their political differences with the president turn them the other way. >> you made us proud and many of you came home as champions wearing a bronze, silver and gold medal. i have to say those crowds weren't looking good, but all of a sudden those crowds got big, very powerful, and it became a very successful olympics, aside from everything else. they had a lot more people show up than they thought. and you think you know why, right? but a lot of good things are happening right now over there, literally as we speak. >> controversy on capitol hill. the house speaker paul ryan explaining today why he's getting rid of the house
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chaplain. patrick conroy has been the chambers' prayer leader and spirit cual counselor for some years now. he doesn't know why he's being fired. has he addressed this? >> reporter: he has, john, and he had to really defend himself over that controversial decision to fire the house chaplain. two sources tell me during a closed door meeting with the caucus this morning, paul ryan was directly confronted by two republicans in that meeting asking why it happened, asking for a full explanation of why he decided to force him to resign. paul ryan, according to these sources, explained it was not political as some have suggested this could be. paul ryan said some members had approached him with some concerns about the house chaplain specifically that they felt they weren't getting their needs met in his counsel. at least one republican, though, is not buying it. pete king from new york tells me
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that's an unsatisfactory answer. he said this is such an unprecedented move, something very serious would have had to prompt it. so clearly many more questions, john, not only from lawmakers but certainly from the house chaplain himself. >> some on capitol hill appreciate that. some of it is important to the members, someone who is friendly to the members. paul ryan is on his way out. he's created a little controversy here. >> this comes from way out. this wasn't on anybody's radar as a problem, including people in congress. and i think we should say that we don't really know all the facts. partly because paul ryan is not fully explaining himself or not explaining himself in a way that even many of his own colleagues find satisfactory. so there probably is more to the story, and we can certainly speculate, and there is a lot of speculating about what was behind it, but i would say there
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is going to be more facts to come out about this. >> i was just going to say, what's interesting is that both paul ryan and nancy pelosi are practicing catholics, the leader of the democratic and republican caucuses in the house. and while, i guess, it's not unusual these days to have a catholic chaplain, it was a big deal when the first one came on in the house. and so the fact that this is happening, and again, we don't really know all the facts about why, it's certainly noteworthy given the fact that ryan and pelosi are the same religion as this guy. >> it's bizarre. we'll see what the reporting shows usment. i tried to poke around and was told that the speaker is comfortable with what he did today. when we come back, ronny jackson out as the president's pick to lead the veteran affairs office. the white house says it's character assassination.
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important developing news, mike pompeo first actual day on the job. the secretary of state says trump is making an unlikely deal to stay in the iran deal. >> we'll deliver what the president has made clear absent a substantial fix, absent overcoming the shortcomings, the flaws of the deal, he's unlikely to stay in this deal past this may. >> left himself some wiggle room there. time for fixes. it's his first day on the job and the tone of what he says, what he leaves us with will be looked at by the world quite
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closely for mike pompeo. >> and the fix macron offered is not something that's a short-term fix. this is a big overarching deal that deals with the other issues in the region and the other -- those were things that happened over months, if not longer, not something you can do in two weeks. >> and it took years to put this together. they looked skeptical at the obama administration. they looked completely skeptically at the trump administration. two weeks? >> i'm interested to know if pompeo had decided in advance to deliver that statement on behalf of the president or whether he was getting out a little over his skis, getting maybe a little ahead of the white house given the meetings donald trump has taken this week. obviously big achievements on the korean peninsula today. he says president trump deserves
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credit. >> without a doubt we wouldn't be where we are today without the president's campaign. i just talked to the state officers who work here today at the mission. they seemed in good spirits. they're hopeful the state department will get its swagger back. >> swagger is a word that mike pompeo, president trump at the moment, has a little swagger. >> it's quite ironic to say about rex tillerson, who, when he first came into the state department, was seen as this big hard-charging texas. then in practice, that is not what he exactly embodied. >> the only swagger that matters is the one you have when you have the president's confidence. tillerson didn't have it from the beginning. pompeo has it now. >> who knows if it's going to end up in a deal, but those pictures, the idea of the north korean leader stepping over the line of the dmz is remarkable.
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