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problems that others don't. so it's not a schedule one substance. shouldn't be and that's part of what this letter really is talking about to the attorney general. >> sanjay, thanks so much for doing this important work. well really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> and dr. gupta's series, pot versus pill, weed 4 airs sunday. thanks for watching. have a great weekend. erin burnett starts right now. "outfront" next, a bombshell admission. the russian lawyer who met with don jr. admits she's a russian informant. this as republicans say trump didn't do anything wrong. plus, the nra facing questions about its ties to a russian banker who's a lifetime nra member. was the organization illegally funneling money to help trump? also, stormy daniels' case against the president on hold. what this means for the president and his personal
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lawyer. >> "the new york times" report thag e-mails showeded the link a and. >> i am an informant. let's just let that sink in. the woman you see there is admitting tonight she worked with putin's kremlin. no, she wasn't just a russian who wanted to change u.s. adoption law and yes, this was a lie. >> i'm threat ped by being mocked as a government attorney,
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but i have never worked for the government. >> a lie that may be, but her denial is part of the official record. they relesion released this. in this, her meeting is glossed over, chalked up to simply poor judgment. quote, while the committee found no evidence the trump campaign colluded, coordinateded or c conspired with the russian government, the investigation did find poor judgment and ill considered actions by the trump and clinton campaigns. of course president trump is applauding the republican conclusion on twitter calling all investigations witch hunts and saying this while sitting next to angela merkel today. >> we were honored. it was a great report.
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no collusion. no coordination, no nothing. it's a witch hunt, that's all it is. no collusion. there was no collusion with russia. >> now of course, the house intelligence committee. has had some serious problems, right? a a whole lot of paper. now, the democrats say that the committee did not fully investigate connections between trump associates and the kremlin. here's the thing m on this major development he says he had no idea. congressman mike conway telling manu did you know that she was an informant for the russians said not that i recall. that's new information. that's his quote. new information.
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so does this bother conway? >> is it troubling she was a russian informant in 2016? >> no. because she presented herself and no evidence she acted on that. >> does it require further investigation from the committee? >> so someone admits to being an informant and meeting with the campaign chairman, the son and top adviser for the trump campaign and i guess it's not north anyone. jim shuuto is "outfront" in washington and you have more breaking news on this lawyer. >> we are now lerping she followed up with the trump campaign after just days after in fact trump's election. you remember that the trump campaign, trump himself said
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there was no follow up to the trump tower meeting. i spoke today with the ranking democrat on the house intelligence committee. here's what he told me. >> yes. she reaches back to the trump family right after the election saying we want to follow up now on this request we have on the act. so clearly, there's an expectation there on the russian side that they may have success with the act. given the prior meeting in communications dealt with the offer of help and the request on the russian part for the repeal. certainly seems like the russians were ready for pay back. >> the act sets some serious penalties and a lot of rich people in russia tied to putin. this was the quid proquo. we offered you dirt on hillary clinton, now you've u been elected. what are you going to do. it was not just the russian lawyer. in fact, the it was two others
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involved in setting up the trump tower meeting. a russian father and son, very wealthy pair connected to trump who have been with him many times. they reached out they reached out including an e-mail discu discussing potential business deals in russia. these are the kinds of questions belie the original trump explanation there was no follow up. in fact, they show there was. >> follow up and regardless of your political persuasion, i think everyone could agree. it would be inappropriate at the most. thank you very much. and now, congressman jerry n nadler, congressman, thanks for your time tonight. the republicans on house intel committee, your colleagues came out with this 253 paged report, the democrats with a rebuttal, you heard the president you know u, applaud the republican version and he weeted about it as well today saying quote, just out, house intelligence
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committee released no evidence that the trump campaign colluded with russia. clinton campaign paid for opposition research obtained from russia. wow. a total witch hunt. must end now. how do you hear that? must end now. is this a some kind of code to bob mueller or the words that came to his head? >> i hope it's not a code o bob mueller. this complete partisan whitewash by the republicans on the intelligence committee just shows more so why we need an honest r report. just the fact that they were relying on this informant and that they characterized the republican report characterizes a meeting in which the president's son, campaign manager, meet with the russian agent and tell her yes, we want information to help the campaign, information that is part of the russian government's attempt to influence the election on the part of
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president trump. we want this information. shows that they're at least attempted collusion, i would say attempted criminal conspiracy. now, i heard congressman conway say there was no follow up. well, we don't know that. in fact, apparently, there was follow up. >> did you go as far as attempted criminal conspiracy. >> it certainly seems that way. that's what it looks like. and certainly it's got to be investigated by an impartial investigator and that's why we have the mueller investigation. >> here's the thing. you know, it was a year, they've admitted it's dysfunctional and not working. they come out with these reports today. and then you know, look, so many redaxs to make it a joke, honestly. here's page 24. this is page 24. so informative. you know, but in all
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seriousness, with all these redaxs, was this a waste of time, all of this? >> i think the republicans made it a waste of time because they did not conduct an honest investigation. and the democratic report shows they can't reach conclusion, but they show repeatedly whether republicans refused to follow with witnesses, refused to get the right, get witnesses in who had real information. refused to follow up. this is a hear no evil, see noville r reporevil report. it shows why we need a fair, impartial investigation, which we have. from the mueller investigation. >> right. >> and i am just afraid that the president will use this whitewash as an excuse to try to shut down the mueller investigation and deny the country an honest accounting.
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does her admission, which she said the opposite before, she indicated that to the house intel. in an interview. she admits she's an informant for putin. whatever word we want to use for the fact she was an agent. does this matter or does this change anything? >> well, it just increases the evidence that we have. that the, of the collusion with the russians on a very serious basis. we could have figured out, we assumed that she was for the government and we know also that that meeting, just that meeting in particular, we know the white house lied about the contents. the president lied about when he said it was about adoptions. on the famous when they wrote the report on air force one. we know now, we've said for a long time, the obvious quid proquo themted was to get rid of
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the, was to help trump and in return, get rid of the sanctions and they followed up on that. >> so when conway, who is technically leading the russia investigation over at the white house even though nuance nes re oversaw this, she presented herself as not a russian agent. nothing to see her. do you think i guess the big question is putting aside the fact that he doesn't think it's worthy of looking into. do you have evidence that the trump campaign was aware of her role? >> whether she was a russian lawyer or informant, she told and the alergos, the other russians who were there, told the trump campaign at the meeting they wanted to give the campaign on hillary clinton they
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had come upon dishonestly, that would help the trump campaign. the trump campaign said yes, we want that information. we want you to help. i want one more thing to ask you quickly. a lot of anger, democrats and republicans at the house speaker for r firing the house chaplain. ryan basically said he got rid of him based on member feedback about pastoral care. do you know why he was fired? >> no. we don't know. there is speculation that it's because in the sermon that we should be fair to everybody and that i would assume that wouldn't be controversial. but this we should be fair, but apparent hi it wly it was. it's disgrace.
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he's a very well respected chaplain and the new speak er will recommend someone and it may be him and the house may elect a new chaplain. it's unheard of. >> r all right. thank you very much. appreciate your time. >> thank you. next, a cnn exclusive. the nra, a russian banker and allegations of a back channel between the trump campaign and russia. plus, michael cohen's weak spot. how much longer can the president's personal lawyer afford to keep quiet? and what do stormy daniels, hulk hogan and a gop fund-raiser have in common? well, it's something pretty important. ♪ ♪ ♪
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and then there's this possible funneling of money and back channel, what are you hearing about this. >> it's a bizarre relationship. sources are telling me it's real anxiety among nra fishes about the potential for an investigation about this long standing relationship they had with alexander torsion, this russian banker and that the nra has gone so far as to begin gathering documents going back years about the various interactions between the nra and alexander torsion as well as wup of torsionings associates who started this group in russia and this is a year's long relationship going back. he built these enroads with the nra to cultivate a back channel with the kremlin. says putin is deadly serious
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about building a good relationship with mr. truch. they were trying to set up this meeting with then candidate trump and torsion on the sidelines of an nra meeting in louisville. now that meeting never came to fruition, but we know he managed to meet briefly are tts. >> obviously a crucial player. thank you very much. sarah. and now let's go to the "new york times" columnist and white house correspoy spend april rya. so frank, you heard sarah's reporting. here's the thing. am i alone in sharing shock here. i didn't know that a russian citizen could be a lifelong member of the nra. >> pretty serious, right? >> her story which is fascinating also remindsed us of something i've forgotten. that was more than they spent in 2008 and 2012 combined.
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so we know that. and we know that this banker, torsion, is trying desperate tli through nra channels the make contact with the trump campaign. it's hard to believe they won't look because when you add that up, it looks odd. >> incredibly odd, april. because you've got someone who is not a citizen of the writs to be donating money to u.s. political campaigns, so if you're giving money to the nra this opens up a pandora's box, doesn't it? >>. >> it does. it really does. but you have to think about it. if russia is really trying to influence the election process and influence our democracy, they're going to try every avenue. and if you think about it, i think back to the george w. bush years and how people were so afraid that the nra would have its own office in the w white house. the nra is a major player in the
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republican party. so why not. if they're trying to get in. go to the other players. it makes sense in an odd kind of way. >> i mean, frank, here's the thing. sarah's talking about a conservative activist reaching out on behalf of torsion. said his goal was to cultivate a back channel to the crekremlin. that's something we've heard from other players. this whole back channel concept and this activist added putin is deadly serious about building a good relationship with mr. trump. >> right. now they don't get the sideline meeting with trump himself. they get it from the kind of major activist of the nfamily. >> yes, and this story, a lot of go on something april said, we think because because an
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exchange of documents, there are so many different ways a foreign actor can try to exert influence and this is an illustration of one of the indirect ways, but if someone is trying to exert influence that is just under the radar, this is one o the ways. >> if it's dysfunctional, not saying that out of turn. every republican and democrat agrees. we know conway said she's russian informant, it's news to him, but doesn't think it's worthwhile of revisiting in any way. and now, adam, the top democrat of the committee says to jim that the republicans are not try ing to gavaes gait.
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>> here you have they were trying to use the nra as one of their channels. one of the witnesses with direct knowledge regarding those allegations we sought to bring and the republicans refused. >> is that all politics or is there truth in it. why would they refuse? >> it's about the new us. those who still support this president who is strong and supporting the president. and many of those in their districts. think about this. just this week, you know, we saw diamond and silk on the hill testifying. republicans brought them in and brought them in for facebook because they shut down all the conversation about cambridge analytica. so this is getting really sticky and crazy. they do not want to deal with this issue. but when you have something in your face that you continue ignore, yes, you may have touched it but you're getting new information, you may have to
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revisit it and god forbid something else comes out where it makes it, it come to a worse life than what it is. they would have to reopen it and also have to take a tongue lashing from public opinion. saying why didn't you deal with it then. there's a lot of ifs out there. this story continue to grow and leaps and bounds and different ways. >> sure does. and yet, hey, got the conclusion. 253 pages. all right. thank you both. and next, the judge pushing the pause button on the daniels case. what does a three month hold mean? we have new details tonight about that hush agreement signed by the porn star. some increde bable coincidences and steve bannon coming out of the same hotel where michael cohen is staying today. things that make you go mm. heartburn!
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stormy daniels case has ordered a 90-day delay. this was requested by cohen. it matters and comes as cnn is learning new detail about the nondisclosure agreement which daniels signed that's raising serious questions about how the deal was done. sara sidner is "outfront." >> what do daniels, hulk hogan and former deputy finance chairman cnn, they all signed confidentiality agreements. in 2012, he tried the broker a
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deal between hogan and a sex tape. showing hogan having sex with his friend's wife. davidson wrote the agreement saying the sex video would be handed over for $300,000. hogan's attorney calleded the fbi and was caught up in a raid accused of extortion. four years later, davidson used that document as a template for the daniels deal. a source tells cnn. the wording in most of it is identical. that means the president's attorney did not write the hush agreement as previously believed. >> if daidson drafted this document for daniels, that's an outrage. because this is such a one sided agreement. >> judd, a new york lawyer who briefly represented trump, said
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davidson crafting the agreement is an unusual move. >> your goal is to make, to write an agreement that has as many holes as b possible to protect your client. your goal is not to lock up your client. >> part of the deal says daniels can be fined $1 million for each time she talks about the alleged apair with the president. davidson wrote the hush agreement signed by a former playboy model he represented who accused a major gop donor was getting her and then elliot brodie agreed to pay her $1.6 million. his lawyer in the deal was michael cohen. in a statement, brodey revealed more about the situation say in the woman terminated the pregnancy. the woman's current toerp, peter striss, said none of this should have ever been exposed to the public. >> can you say definitively this was not your client leaking this information? >> my client did not leak this information.
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my client was not involved in the leaking of this information. my client could not be more upset that her personal life in this regard has been made public in any way. >> and legal scholars have told us the person demanding the silence is usually the side that drafts the deal because they want to make sure the deal is airtig airtight. that b didn't happen. but conversely, the attorney who has the client who's being silenced would be giving up a lot if they draft the agreem. they would put themselves in a different negotiating position, eri erin. >> thank you. now to harry. former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district. so, why would michael cohen, who's a sensibly representing trump here, allow daniels 'attorney to write that? this is not the way this would be done. zwl it's not the way.
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one possible reason is that i'm going to do it on my terms. another possibility is that let's use my model, and cohen went along with it. >> so on one, it's a lawyer being lazy r or not competent or a lawyer that doesn't have leverage. we don't know which. in the case of daniels, of course b obviously, that begs the question. that's definitely a possible inference you can draw from what happened. >> so now sarah's reporting you don't just have the stormy daniels mda. it's identical basically to
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others done by keith davidson, who by the way represented multiple women who had agreements with donald trump. but also elliot brodey. who paid 1. million to get the abortion and hulk hogan. these are all identical. so what's that sna. >> is that he has a form and if he can get others to use his form, he's going to do that. it's not surprising in and of itself for lawyer to have a form agreement they like, but as the lawyer said in the clip, the ability to get people to sign on to this agreement when they are paying you for confidentiality is very unusual. >> and what do you make of this, that davidson and cohen did so many deals together? it's not just daniels? >> part of it is if davidson has a niche in this area. >> and people are referring to trump who knew he's going to kind of give them a good deal.
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are telling every woman who has some sort of a sexual relationship with trump to go to davidson. >> that's b probabpossible, too may be in if documents or tape recorded conversation that is the southern district collected in the search warrant. we may find the answer. >> it's going to take time because we have a 90-day delay. cohen has a criminal case. u you have to go ahead. you're going to have the time to deal with that. stor stormy's going to wait. this is i think a small measure of good news for cohen. he was being put in the position where he would have to either testify in the deposition and admit to things that could be used against him in the southern district or refuse to testify and vote the fifth amendment as he said he was prepared to do in which case he would lose the civil case. it's hard if you're a party in the civil case to win if you're refusing to testify on the grounds of self-incrimination. this buys him some time. 90 days to work things out then hope there's some road to victory in california. >> harry, thank you, as always.
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and next, is there a price on michael cohen's loyalty? new questions tonight on how much longer the president's personal attorney can afford to stay quiet. wait until you see the numbers and the jacket. and more on the russian lawyer who now admits she's a kremlin informant. a man who knows her well has been sounding the alarm about her ties and enemy number one of putin joins me next. presenting the all-new lexus ls 500 and ls 500h. experience amazing, at your lexus dealer. ( ♪ ) ( ♪ )
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tonight, a notable sighting outside michael cohen's hotel in new york city. that's steve bannon and he was leaving the regency hotel. that's where michael cohen is staying. a source close to bannon says he wasn't meeting with cohen. but the reality is the legal pressure on cohen is mounting an the b crucial question is will cohen turn on trump. and a major factor that could influence this decision is cohen's finances. what do they look like? >> in the days since the fbi raided michael chone's home, hotel room an office, the so-called fixer has been seen lunching at barney's, sometimes
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sporting this jacket priced at roughly $3,000 and staying at the regency hotel, where suites cost nearly 1,0$1,000 a night a where he drives a high-end mercedes-be mercedes-benz. this as legal fees pile up. the law firm quickly cut ties with him after the raid. he told the judge in the case he only had three client ins colluding sean hannity, who says he never paid him, and trump. thursday, the president distanced himself from cohen. the president telling fox news that cohen quote crazy stormy daniels deal. daniels alleges she had an affair with trump and cohen admits to borrowing money from his home equity line in 2016 to
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make a payment to her which the president denied knowing aboutment cohen and his wife do own taxi companies and me dalians in new york and chicago, but their values plumeted thanks to ride sharing programs like uber. in 2014, cohen's taxis would have been worth about $1 million each. last month, city records showed average of $355 apiece. cohen is behind on paying more than $85,000 in taxes on his new york cab businesses according to state wards since 2017. even still as recently as 2014, the couple used them as collateral to take out several loans accord tog a cnn review of financial records. as for real estate, that's where cohen may be making money. he owes a percentage of an upper east side high-rise, the entirety of a building and a
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home. that's on top of lucrative ve investments he's made into real estates like once owning then selling a condo at trump world tower. but with financial pressure b mounting, the big question remains. >> i want to talk about you flipping. any b possibilities for that? >> an answer we may only know as federal investigators file criminal charges. >> so you know, you look at this, you have all kind of issues and loans, but then you have real estate that could be very ravalue bable. what else are you learning ab tbt extent of his wealth? >> the entire picture is still vague and this is something investigators are looking into a along with business practices. what we know according to the trump organization is they're not paying him. so he's not getting income from them. that's from them. if you remember, he left the trump station as he became mayor. >> right. thank you very much. next, just how close to the clem krem lynn was the russian lawyer who met the donald trump jr. and
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new tonight, the russian lawyer who met with kushner and manafort in trump tower promising dirt on clinton now amitts she's an informant. that means she lied when she said she was private attorney. >> i'm certainly flattered by being mocked and called a government attorney, but i have never worked for the government. >> okay. so obviously this was today at the beginning and that was then. obviously that was not true. the ceo, bill browder, he's been called putin's number one enemy, at one time, the biggest number one investor in russia before he was blacklisted. so let's get straight to this
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trump tower meeting. you came on show right after it. you said it was very clear that she was acting as a proxy for the russian government and putin. that she was an agent. tonight, she said i was an informant, which exposes it as a complete lie. and th a >> this comes from the documents that have come out in the last 24 hours. the u.s. government applied officially to the russia uen governme governme government. she is -- i don't know if she has a russian government business card, but she was produce iing all the documents t went to the u.s. government that were reline -- informant is her only halfway there. she was an agent of the russian
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governme government. >> that's it. >> why did she lie before and not now? because she got outed as working on these documents on top of the russian government? that's why she lied? >> she just lies a lot. in this case, i think she thinks by calling herself an informant is less damming than when the truth finally comes out about this whole thing, which is that she's a full on agent. she's just trying to get ahead of the story as best one can in a terrible situation. >> right. otherwise to layperson, informant, spy, it's a distinction without a difference. manu spoke to mike. the guy, you've talked to congress, you've testified to congress in this russia ve
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investigation. you know, he's the one who oversaw the 253 paged republican conclusion about what happened. and manu said she admits she was an an formanhattan. did you know about it? does this change >> is it troubling that she was a russian informant? >> no. there is no evidence that she acted on that. just because she confesses without any evidence, that is not, that doesn't rise to the level of re-opening anything. >> does that make sense? >> i don't know what exactly his logic is, but what i can say for sure, is she was here, in new york on june 9, 2016, on behalf of putin and the russian
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government meeting with one specific request which was to repeal the act. hoping if donald trump became elected he was repeal that. >> we do know after he won, she followed up. she said let's follow up on the act now. >> well, what we know for sure is that they weren't going to stop at one meeting. what we don't know, and we are only going to know this when mueller produces his report. >> the response, yes. >> i wouldn't trust a republican report or democrat report. i would trust mueller's report. >> you are here with me. i have interviewed you from around the world. and you were called putin's enemy number one. according to the ambassador to
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the u.n., she said last month, if we don't take immediate measures to address -- are you worried here? >> i don't spend my life living in fear. but the russian government would like to see me dead. so i have to take many precautions that a normal person would have to take. >> i am not going to ask you what those are. do you feel safer when you are in the united states than when you are in the uk? >> i feel the russians feel comfortable doing their nasty business wherever they have to do. there are people who have alleged to have been killed in united states, and in great
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a solution some believe is this. cannabis. it's controversial to many. is cannabis a gateway drug? a gateway to recover for others. did it help you get off the opioids? >> absolutely. >> cannabis has given me a reason to live. >> sanjay is "outfront" now. incredible to hear what those individuals said. you spent five years studying marijuana and trying to understand the things that it can do and can't do. can it really help people addicted to heroin and other opioids? >> i believe it can. i don't know if i would have said this a year ago. there are three important points that i have learned. one is that it can treat pain. everyone agrees to that. so instead of opioids which people are dying off it can
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treat pain without risk of overdose. and part of the reason people don't stop taking the opioids is because of the withdrawal. it is like chemo therapy for cancer patients, we know cannabis has helped these patients. and it help here. when you are addicted, you have a brain disease. if you keep taking opioids that brain disease never gets better. i have evidence, and we are going to present it that cannabis it help change those brain changes. >> you can see the shift. >> you can see the changes in the brain to the point of, if look at these changes in the brain, there is no way to ask someone to just say no. it is not possible anymore. their brain no longer has the ability to stop taking opioids. >> now in the trump administration obviously, you played the president, a big push that they are going to do
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something about it. we haven't seen a change. you wrote an open letter to jeff sessions advocating for marijuana to be a treatment. >> we have gone backwards with this administration. the attorney general said we are going to impose law on those states even if they have medical marijuana. no funding for that data. still listed as a schedule one substance which means our government has identified this and find it. no scientist in the world to agree with that. a complete disconnect right now between what the administration is saying and the reality is from scientists. it still needs to be studied and still needs to be researched. tens of thousands of people are dying in this country. this could provide a way out. >> thank you so much. special report by our chief
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medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta. weed pot versus pills. airing sunday. you can watch "outfront" any time, anywhere, anderson is next. the russian lawyer at the center of the trump tower meeting. had far closer kremlin ties that she said or we knew. john berman in for anderson. what she said. >> this story broke, the republican led house intelligence committee released its final report. the conclusion, no collusion.
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