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they have to think there is something nefarious about this. >> and it shows how interconnected it all is. the southern district of new york seems tobacco h-- to be cohen's big problem here, but it's all very bizarre. >> thank you for watching "inside politics." wolf starts right now. hello, i'm wolf blitzer. it's 1:00 p.m. here in washington, 6:00 p.m. in london, 8:00 p.m. in moscow. wherever you're watching from around the world, thanks very much for joining us. 49 questions but how many answers? the "new york times" obtaining at least four dozen questions robert mueller, the special counsel, has for the president of the united states on everything from obstruction to his campaign activities. plus, asked whether he thinks a new national enquirer cover is a message, the president's long-time personal lawyer and so-called fixer
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michael cohen responds with a very ominous answer. and the white house blaming a clerical error for the very drastic change it made on language concerning iran's nuclear program. we're digging for answers. all that coming up. but we start with breaking news. a rather bizarre new allegation from president trump's former private physician. nbc news is reporting that dr. harold bornstein says shortly after president trump took office only a couple weeks or so, the president's personal body guard and top lawyer for the trump organization suddenly came into his office, made off with all -- all of the president's medical records going back decades. here's more from dr. bornstein. >> what exactly were they looking for? >> medical records, pictures, anything they could find. they must have been here for 25 or 30 minutes.
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it created a lot of chaos. i couldn't believe anybody was making a big deal about a drug that's to grow his hair, which seemed to be so important. and it certainly is not a breach of medical trust to tell somebody they take alopecia to grow their hair. what's the matter with that? >> let's assess the breaking news. kim zeleny, julie hirschfield davis. julie, dr. bornstein had been the physician 30 years, if not longer, all of a sudden says that a couple weeks or so after the election, they burst into his office and they start going through his files and take everything, all the medical records, regarding donald trump who was then the president of
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the united states. and he says, he doesn't think they had some sort of medical order that would allow that kind of intrusion. >> right. and it's very intriguing, first of all, that this doctor is sort of an odd figure. he's appeared at various points since the president was elected saying different things about his state of health. but you do have to wonder whether this was a medical issue or a legal issue. you know, there are pretty robust privacy laws surrounding all these health records. on what authority were they doing that? what cannexactly were they look for? >> and a day after dr. bornstein had suggested, yes, the president was taking a drug to increase his hair growth. >> it seems to me the procedure here is, i'm changing doctors. i would like copies of all my medical file so i can port them over to my new doctor. he may have, whether hipa or
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whatever, the right to hold these records himself. it's a little bit frightening, honestly. >> sort of a burglary. those are strong words. explain. you're a former prosecutor. >> i just don't know under what authority a patient has the right to enter a medical office and retrieve folders, even though they're there, folders of his own medical treatment, that they have the right to just take them without a civil procedure in a court that authorizes that in some way. i don't know for certain, but it strikes me that it is a theft of some sort. >> what do you think, kim? you're a former assistant u.s. attorney. >> it's really difficult to tell based on this limited information, but i think the broader picture here is whether we have another instance, potentially, the knowledge that
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people are above the law. we've seen this particular administration not really adhering to the norms and rules that everybody else adheres to. we'll see how this one comes out. >> dr. bornstein says he's speaking out over the whole incident the past few weeks. ronny jackson had the last position to become secretary of veterans affairs. he's speaking out now that he said he, dr. bornstein, felt raped, frightened and sad when keith shiller, the president's long-time bodyguard who was then working in the office, and another large man -- his words -- came into his office on february 3rd. this was two weeks after the january 20th inauguration and said they were taking everything. bornstein said they were here 25 to 30 minutes. it created a lot of chaos. he was not given a form authorizing the release of records signed by the president, which is known as the hipa
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release. >> ronny jackson came to public prominence. those of us at the white house knew of him as the white house doctor for years. he came out to the lectern and made a statement about the president's health. he said he's in an extraordinary bill of health and they had been examining him, and they were making disclosures that presidents of many years have made about their physical well-being. but the question was, coming in, was this doctor of president trump's who had been treating him for quite some time before he was elected and before he was in public life knows something about the president. what were they looking for? was this just a routine we're going to get the records and get them over to the current physician, or was this an effort that the president could find out something the president didn't want to get out. >> i wouldn't say one committed a crime burglary or theft. it has the sort of appearance of
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an unlawful. in their report, bornstein said the trump team cut all ties with him, even though he had been a physician for a number of years, even though bornstein said he was taking a drug called alopecia who helps hair growth in men. after he told the "new york times" about that, they completely cut ties with him. you think you're going to be in a white house position? guess what, they said to him, you're not going to be a white house physician? does this fut, when you see what happened with this long-time. >> they are trying to make
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attempts to shield the american public from information. we've also heard about security levels at the top of the white house. the security clearance does not apply to elected officials. they get to vet their candidate through the electoral process. from a broader category standpoint, the fact this information is being withheld, is problematic and perhaps is something congress should think about in future years, actually requiring some of these disclosures of voters have a right where the problems are before we put someone in the highest office in the land. >> he also said the president would be the healthiest president ever in the history of the. there's other important news i want to get to right now. stick around.
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those special counsel questions for president trump and the president's reaction to those questions being out in the open. the questions reveal the focus and the scope of special counsel robert mueller's investigation, from michael flynn, fired paul manafort, the trump campaign chairman, fired. and any possible ties between russia to the president's own actions. here's the president tweet. quote, so disgraceful that the questions concerning the russian witch hunt were leaked to the media. no questions on collusion. oh, i see. you have made up phone any crime of collusion. that never existed, and an investigation begun with illegally leaked classified information. nice! a lot of this is getting a lot of attention. what's getting more attention, more reaction right now,
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kaitlyn, the questions themselves or the leak that was made public? >> that depends on if you're inside or outside this white house. if you're outside, it really reveals the scope of the russia investigation. but if you're inside the white house, and specifically the president, he's calling the leak of these questions disgraceful and raising the question of how they even got throughout in the first place. we should know that when the "new york times" published these dozens of questions, they were read to the president's legal team who then compiled them to a list. it's surely nice to know the outside people that came them the list of questions. it wasn't the special counsel who gave them the questions. we do know that rudy giuliani who is the late els. there were no questions about collusion in those lists that
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were that is false, of course, a lot of the questions teal with obstruction of justice. but the bottom line here, wolf, is we know what the special counsel now wants to ask the president, but the question now is whether or not the president is going to sit down with him. >> that's a great question. we don't have an answer. some obstruction of justice, some potentially perjury. there is a lot you can fraeread. the questions robert mueller wants to ask the president of the united states and whether the president's business dealings are also now in focus. at any minute now, secretary of state mike pompeo.
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the secretary of state mike pompeo delivers his first address to the state department. >> executing foreign policy in the world with incredible vigor and incredible energy. i am looking forward to helping you all achieve that. [ applause ] >> my remarks today will be relatively brief. tomorrow the president will be here to do my official swearing in. i think much of the cabinet will
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be here as well. it's an important day for the president's first trip to this important place. and i'm looking forward to being there with many of you and having the honor to have the president of the united states do my formal swearing in. i then will, sometime either later this week or beginning of next, do more to develop what i hope to achieve with your help. i'll lay out for you my expectations, my hopes, and most importantly, share with you my leadership style. and this is very different. one of the first rules is don't talk down to people, right? so i'll speak to you all right up here. but alongside that is that i feel like i know you. i've worked alongside you as a member of congress when i traveled. i've had the chance to watch.
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when i was traveling around the world and i would go into an embassy and arrive there late at night, and there were the folks in the economic section doing great work on behalf of america. i have a great deal to learn about the state department and how we perform our mission, but as people, i'm confident that i know who you are. i know that you came and you chose to be a foreign officer or civil servant or to work in many capacities, and to do so because you're patriots and great americans and because you want to be an important part of america's face to the world. my mission will be to lead you skpal l and allow you to do that, the very thing you came here to do. [ applause ] >> i will get to as many parts of this organization as i can. i said in my testimony that i'll
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spend as little time on the seventh floor -- i think it's the seventh floor, right? i'll go up there in a minute. i'll travel. i'm going to get to usaad as quickly as i can to see their part of our mission as well. i know that every task, every endeavor each of you undertakes is a critical part to achieve that overall objective, which is to deliver to president trump and foreign policy around the world, to be a diplomatic face that achieves the outcomes that america so desperately needs to achieve in the world. i've told this story a couple of times, but it's worth repeating. the best lesson i ever got was from a fellow named sergeant frank pep erkp erkpetrie. when i hopped out of the jeep,
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he said, you would do best just to shut up for a while. what he meant was we need to listen and learn. i hope to learn a lot from you. i talked about getting back our swagger and i'll fill in what i mean about that. the united states diplomatic accord needs to be in every stretch of the world, executing to every part of the country, and it is my noble ability to help you achieve that. [ applause ] >> thank you. i look forward to meeting just as many of you as i get a chance to, to learn from as many as i can, and to leading that team on the field. i know that we will deliver for this president and for this country. thank you. may the good lord bless each of you. i'll see you all around the building.
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thanks. [ applause ] >> the new secretary of state, mike pompeo, the former c iria director, his first address to the state diplomat, state department of employees promising to work closely with them. also a little news, he says president trump will make his first visit to the state department since taking office tomorrow for a symbolic swearing-in ceremony. mike pompeo was officially sworn in the other day before he headed off to the middle east. we'll have much more on this coming up. also much more on robert mueller, the special counsel, and the nearly 50 questions, 49 speck specifically, he wants to ask the president of the united states. plus the other breaking news, president trump's long-time personal physician says his office was raided -- his word, raided -- and the president's medical files were taken by the president's long-time bodyguard and another man. we have more information coming in on the breaking news.
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the special counsel robert mueller has some very serious questions for the president of the united states, about four dozen of them. the "new york times" obtained a list of those questions that mueller wants answered by the president. many of them relate to possible obstruction of justice, but president trump insists that he can't be guilty of obstructing. this morning once again he tweeted this, quote, it would seem very hard to obstruct justice for a crime that never happened. witch hunt, closed quote. let's bring back our panel. what do you think, michael? the president is asserting there was no crime, as a result, there can't be any obstruction of justice. >> the way the obstruction of justice statute works is if there is an ongoing investigation, you can't interfere with the investigation. irrespective of whether that investigation results in criminal charges, you can't interfere with the investigation or the new administration of
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justice. so as a legal matter, that is not a correct statement. >> if you read the 49 questions, and julie, i know you have, i have, we all have. they fall into several categories as well as the president's actions of office as well as the activity before the campaign in 2016, his business over the years and the 2013 trip to moscow. what does this tell us about the scope of mueller's investigation? >> this tells us what we long believed that his scope is very wide. he's looking at things that both happened during the campaign and things that happened since he became president. things that happened at his own behest and that his advisers were doing. in terms of some of the business dealings he wanted to ask about, i think this tells us that mueller and his investigators are really trying to get to the bottom of whether trump may have directed or had a motive for directing certain of these contacts between his staff and russian officials. >> one of the questions, several of the questions, in fact,
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focused around the president's decision to fire the fbi director james comey. why do you think he's so interested in that? >> because it goes to, as michael was saying, the question of criminal intent. obstruction of justice is all about the reasons why he fired comey, the reasons why he tried to call off reportedly the mueller investigation, the reasons why he asked comey to call off the investigation of mr. flynn. so, clearly, obstruction is a core issue here. i think the bigger and more interesting question, really, is, what's trump's team going to do about this? this is a nightmare for a criminal defense lawyer. because if he goes and says things that are inconsistent, we all have to understand, mr. mueller has talked to papadopoulos, he's talked to mr. flynn, he's talked to mr. gates. he has a whole lot of information about what the correct answer is to all these questions. the president either has to go and potentially perjure himself or do nothing. if he does nothing, we could
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likely see a subpoena and a contempt order, then it's a game of chicken. it involves politics, it involves law, and it involves psychology, really, which is really interesting with this particular president. >> because there is a couple ways the special counsel can operate. it can operate like, here are the questions and submit the answers in writing. that's one way of doing it. another way is have a meeting. and if you have a meeting of 49 questions, these are opening questions, but then you follow up with much tougher, specific questions, questions you know the answer to already because you've interviewed so many witnesses, and most of them are fully cooperating now with the prosecutors. >> that's right. and i think that gambit one of written questions and written answers is probably not on the table for mueller. unless there is something we don't know about that allows him to feel confident he can discern the criminal intent, as kim said, of the president in writing. i think we're talking about an interview. and i think both sides would be
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advantaged to work out the terms of it. because i think that the law is is at the back -- the wind, if you will, is at the back of mueller. nixon versus mlsb seem to indic the president will not be able to resist that interview. so he goes a year and a half fighting it and then he submits to the interview. it doesn't look good for him, it looks like he was hiding something. if both sides can agree to scope and duration, then we know what the topics are and we can move forward and hopefully marty and jane raskin and ty cobb can answer the questions honestly. >> one of mueller's questions jumped out at me. when did you become aware of the trump tower meeting, referring to the june 2016 meeting in trump tower with some of the president's own relatives, his
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son-in-law, son, paul manafort, the campaign chairman, and the russians. why is that question so important to mueller? >> i think this goes to whether there was or wasn't any type of coordination that aides and family members were actually knowingly going to a meeting to get dirt about hillary clinton with the russians. if he knew about that or condoned it or even had it in his head when all of this was playing out, that is a key piece of information. >> it seems mueller is interested in what the president denies, collusion. >> we know mueller knows the president was involved in crafting a statement later on that later proved to be false. they said the meeting was about adoptions. we now know through don jr.'s e-mails that it was about more than that, and this information was being offered up and the president's son was interested in obtaining it.
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mueller will want to know exactly whether trump knew about it, whether he directed it in any way and whether he tried to cover it up later. >> another question that seems to suggest possible collusion on the part of mueller, a question about the activities during the 2016 presidential campaign, what candidate trump knew about the collusion between roger stone, a long-time adviser to the president, and wikileaks which was about to release a lot of very sensitive damaging information involving the hillary clinton campaign and the democrats. >> so part 1 of the counter-intelligence investigation we saw was a social media indictment against the russians. part two may be the hacking of those servers, dnc and podesta, and then the coordination of roger stone or anybody else into distributing that hacked information. so that question is loaded with counter-intelligence, obstruction, conspiracy to
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defraud aspects. >> another question, kim, and it's a significant question to the president. i could only imagine what he would say in his answer. what communications did you have about russian real estate developments during the campaign? why is that potentially an ominous question for the president? >> one of the big issues, the threats through this entire investigation, is a question of whether there was a quid pro quo. whether the president and his team basically said, listen, you scratch my back, i'll scratch your back. this gets to the question of whether the president had some interest in working something out with the russians that wasn't necessarily in the best interests of the american public. and in response to the point with respect to the meeting in trump tower, that question, if accurately coming from the mueller investigation, is framed when did you know about it. so mueller is taking the position he did know about it. the question is when. the president said all kinds of
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things about it on twitter and other things where he could dispute it. we also wonder whether he spoke to potential witnesses. witness tampering, very serious. something that got nixon in trouble. there is not any clear path for a defense attorney to really protect his or her client in this instance, which might be why mr. dow resigned. >> the "new york times" has done some excellent reporting on this. one of the questions, according to the times, and they have a whole list of these questions. robert mueller wants to know about the trump relationship to a russian royal family and significantly the trump 2010 visit to moscow. which once again, mueller said,
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he may notal agr agree to this. >> don't forget, the broad topic that mueller was brought in to examine was russia's meddling in the election. so they'll be looking at all different aspects of this. to the degree there is a crossover between the people trump knew and was friends with and had dealings with that may seem to be completely divorced from politics, divorced from the campaign and what we now know happened during the campaign and what russia did to try to influence the outcome, that's very important for him to know. if in any way trump played into the hands of this conspiracy, then that's an issue. it doesn't have to be necessarily that he directed a collusion campaign from the 26th floor of trump tower. >> very quickly. >> two things. one is the agalaras are the ones who robbed rob goldstone, so he's going back to the origins of that relationship.
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and to your point about quid pro quo, there are questions about the u.n. policy and the questions about sanction. it goes back to that point of was there a relation between the trumps and the russians. >> and there is one question about whether they softened some of the questions where ukraine is concerned. all right, guys. stick around. there's more news we're following. recertify or abandon. the deadline to decide on the nuclear deal involving iran is looming. this as the white house issues its iran statement with one very, very consequential typo, as they're calling it. plus, president trump postpones his deadline on oppose rg tariffs on a major trade threat. we have new details. stick around. patrick woke up with back pain.
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there are now less than two weeks left until president trump has to make a critical decision on the iran nuclear deal, whether to recertify it or abandon the deal, which was worked out in 2015. the issues are complicated. they were certainly complicated when the white house issued a statement last night saying that iran, quote, has a clandestine nuclear weapons program. but very quickly, shortly thereafter, the white house had to correct the "has" to "had," calling it a clerical error. here with us right now is the democrat chris hollister. thank you for joining us. what did you think when you saw the wording of the original white house statement suggesting that iran has a clandestine nuclear program underway right
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now despite the 2015 agreement? >> for a second i thought, here we go again, because i remember in the lead-up to the iraq war, all of a sudden you had a misled campaign. i'm glad they corrected it quickly. it clearly proves the point because iran did have a nuclear weapons program. that's why it's so important to keep it ran agreemethe iran agre because it cuts off iran's path to nuclear weapons. to back off of that would give it ra the iranians permission to go ahead. >> you want the president to go ahead with the iran deal with the european union, russia and
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germany. >> yes, they have urged him to keep that in place, and mike pompeo, when he showed up for his confirmation hearing a few weeks ago, he confirmed that there is absolutely no evidence that iran is violating the agreement. in other words, iran is complying by the terms of the agreement. >> there was a very strong presentation, a very tough presentation that the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu made yesterday. we have live coverage of that here on cnn. since then many have come out and said there is no evidence that iran is violating the agreement right now. i want you to listen to michael hayden, former cia director, who was on cnn earlier this morning. >> with all due respect to the prime minister, i realize he's not an intelligence source, but we have certain labels, certain caveats we give to some sortsz. for some sources who also provide good information, we also have to point out that so you understand the motivation of the source, we believe his remarks were designed to
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influence as well as to inform. i think that might apply to what the prime minister said yesterday. >> there are others who are suggesting that the information that prime minister netanyahu released yesterday really didn't shed new light, this was old information going back years when iran was working on a nuclear program. >> right, and there's absolutely nothing new here. there are more details, but in terms of the finding, there is nothing new. we were well aware of the iran nuclear program. in fact, pompeo, in a statement just the other day, confirmed that iran ended that program in early january 2004. i should point out that netanyahu also testified in front of the house back in september 2002 and said that iraq was heading toward getting a nuclear weapon, and that's why we need to go after iraq and saddam hussain. he was wrong then and he's provided no new information now. >> i think he wants president trump to walk away, rip up this deal?
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>> yeah. he opposed the agreement from the very beginning. clearly he's trying to influence president trump's decision to get him to rip up the deal. i think it would isolate the united states, not iran, and it would also allow iran to proceed with more nuclear enrichment and with no inspectors, so we would be flying blind and we would be giving a green light to iran. very dangerous. >> you heard what the president said the other day. if he walks away from the deal, rips it up, and the iranians restart their nuclear program, he warned, in brutal terms, they will regret this, they will suffer like no other country has suffered in a long time, suggesting a real threat of u.s. military action. >> right, but the whole purpose of the iran nuclear agreement was to accomplish the goal of making sure iran doesn't get a nuclear weapon without having to use military force. so why president trump would want to go to war to stop something that the agreement is right now preventing, which is iran from getting a nuclear weapon -- and if iran chooses to
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violate the agreement, we will know it because we have inspectors. we'll have time to respond and all alternatives are at our disposal. as part of that agreement, iran agreed not to get a nuclear weapon and agreed to comply. >> but you're not aware of the other stuff they're doing to promote terrorism, all these other things. >> not at all, and we should work with the iranians with respect to their missile agreement as well, but a nuclear-armed iran doing all those bad things is much more dangerous than an iran doing those things without a nuclear weapon. so let's keep the agreement in place, then let's work together to address and confront all the other iranian conflict. >> what do you think he's going to do? he has to make a decision by may 12. he hates the president of the united states, he hates this iran nuclear deal, as he said in his campaign and says all the time ever since. >> he did. i hope he will listen not only
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to our allies, but people within his own administration. secretary of defense and others have testified this agreement is in our national security interest. he said that to the congress last fall. it is in our national security interest. pulling the ploy on this is a very dangerous path and potentially a recipe for war. donald trump, during the campaign, also said he didn't want the united states having to intervene everywhere around the world, and this would make it much more likely that could happen. >> yeah, i think you're right. secretary mattis wants to cool things down. we'll see what the president's new security adviser, john bolton, who is a fierce critic of the nuclear deal as well, we'll see what impact he has. >> and bolton wants to use military force on iran. why do that if we haven't presented an agreement? >> especially at a time when the u.s. is trying to get a nuclear agreement with north korea at the same time. >> that's right, if you're negotiating with north korea and you're violating the other one,
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president trump and his white house chief of staff john kelly are slamming reports they are caught up in another clash. a new report said the president called kelly an idiot during a
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meeting. trump tweeted his own denial. tensions between the two are said to be brewing for months now. chris cizzilla is joining us with details. >> this relationship looks like it's been fraught for some time. general kelly we got a report, used very unfavorable terms to describe his boss, idiot being one, unhinged being another. kelly pushed back very aggressively. he said he spend more time with donald trump than anyone else, they have a strong relationship. this is important. he always knows where i stand and we both know this story is b.s. they clearly is a contentious candid relationship.
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this has been a roller coaster for the two of them. john kelly, we know from james comey, the fired fbi director, john kelly called james comey and said what had opinion done to him, being fired, was dishonorable, that he did not want to work for dishonorable people and was considering resigning. comey said don't resign, we need you. but the relationship has not been terrible always, wolf. remember back to ladavid johnson, killed overseas. trump called the widow. the widow said the call did not bring her comfort and kelly stood up and made a strong defense of the reaction and clearly bolstered trump in a moment of weakness. but this is a relationship that
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has repeatedly been stuck in the will he or won't he quit. kelly has been threatened to resign, potentially resigning multiple times over his time in office. he keeps citing patriotic duty. feels as though he owes it to the country to stay. not sure how much longer that will last because we know the relationship between kelly and trump, even before monday night, has really started to deteriorate. we know trump is using his personal cell phone a lot more. john kelly tried to restrict that usage when he came in as chief of staff. we know keel hlly has been miss from key meetings and not always traveling with the president when you think he would. and now in dissatisfaction on kelly's part toward donald trump and that will not make donald
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