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♪ ♪ i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. we welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. just as soon as america's mayor became the president's lawyer, giuliani wasted no time trying to rewrite the stormy daniels and comey narratives. but by friday, he was backtracking. will the latest addition to the president's legal team end up helping or hurting the president? after the leak of mueller's potential questions, the president has still not decided if he'll testify. as we near the midterms, and a possible blue wave, does this endless delay put time on the side of his opponents who wish for impeachment? plus, the president got some good news this week. the unemployment numbers are
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down near historic lows. >> the unemployment rate just fell beneath 4% for the first time since the beginning of this century. >> and when a package was misdelivered to a harvard law school graduate in phoenix, he was afraid to let his sons redeliver it because they are a black family in a white neighborhood. a viral moment ensued. was he right to be worried? first, rudy giuliani debuted as the new head of the president's legal team this week. his appearance wednesday with sean hannity which sought out to put out a legal and political fire instead ignited one. when giuliani told a new narrative about how michael cohen had been repaid for the stormy daniels hush money via a retainer and over several months he caught many by surprise including members of the president's legal team. where he'd spoken to his client, the president, before going on air, this was a deliberate
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strategy, one that the president embraced the morning after in a series of tweets seemingly the intent was to provide cohen with cover from potential charges that he'd violated fec requirements when making the $130,000 payment to a porn star without disclosure. among those caught by surprise, michael cohen himself, at leeas according to his confidante donny deutch. >> i spoke with michael cohen yesterday. his quote about giuliani was he doesn't know what he's talking about. there are two people who know exactly what happened, myself and the president. you'll be hearing my side of the story. >> by friday, the president was excusing away giuliani's behavior as rookie mistakes. >> he's learning the subject matter, and he's going to be issuing a statement, too. he started yesterday. he'll get his facts straight. >> giuliani did release a statement which allowed no more
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improvising. there's no campaign violation. the payment was made to resolve a personal and false allegation in order to protect the president's family. it would have been done in any event, whether he was a candidate or not. and my references to timing were not describing my understanding of the president's knowledge but instead my understanding of these matters. regarding the stormy daniels situation, the president has been trying to thread a needle. he's been trying to argue he was out of the loop on the settlement, had nothing to do with the settlement but it's binding. only time will tell whether rudy's strategy proves a legal asset or liability. the daniels case might be a case of us witnessing the reprise of, say, whitewater, where an inquiry into a confusioning land transaction ended up exposing an intern scandal. here investigation into russian meddling in the u.s. election
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has morphed into questions about the aftermath of a one-night stand more than a decade ago. might it nevertheless imperil a presidency? or are the stakes of what the president calls a witch hunt overblown? that's today's poll question at smerconish.com. do the latest developments arising out of the stormy daniels case imperil the presidency? go cast a ballot. results later this hour. joining me to discuss is jonathan turley, a professor of constitutional law at george washington university. he wrote this piece in "usa today." is rudy giuliani working for donald trump or against him? professor, welcome back. what's your answer to my big picture question, this whole stormy daniels business. might it imperil this presidency? >> i think it just might. the problem with this is it didn't have to be an existential threat but it's becoming that. they've allowed this to metastasize, to get to a point
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where you could actually take a scandal and make it criminal. it takes a lot of work. you have to make a lot of missteps but they're making a good show of it. what giuliani did in that interview is really baffling. you're not supposed to work out the facts on live television. and when he says this is my understanding of the matter, not my client's knowledge, his client's knowledge is the matter. and so it's -- it was just an appalling thing to watch. >> here's what struck me in the hannity interview. it was the way in which he had a sort of epiphany as to, ah-ha, it's the retainer that was the repayment method for the stormy daniels litigation. watch this clip. >> everybody was nervous about this from the very beginning. i wasn't. i knew how much money donald trump put into that campaign. i said $130,000. he's going to do a couple of checks for $130,000. when i heard cohen's retainer of $35,000, when he was doing no
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work for the rt. that's how he's repaying -- that's how he's repaying it. >> in other words, it's not that president trump told him. it's not that michael cohen said, hey, rudy, here's the way it happened, but, rather, it occurred to him. your reaction? >> first of all, it's not a defense. it actually is worse. first of all, basically changing what was called a gift into a loan does not get you out of campaign finance problems. it trips additional wires. you then have reporting problems, tax problems. also questions about past statements. so it doesn't help. and what was really curious about this is his statement that, well, you know, we disguised effectively, or he did, hush money in the form of legal fees. well, that triggers ethical problems as well. lawyers don't do that. you are a lawyer and you know that as well as i do. >> so let's go deeper. who was the intended beneficiary of the giuliani strategy? because superficially it would
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seem they're providing cover for michael cohen. but is it that simple? >> i don't think it is that simple. what worries me is this was a play again to the public. giuliani was there making all types of threats, calling the fbi agents storm troopers or saug that he's going to basicalbase ically crush mueller. giuliani can't really imagine that's going to intimidate mueller or the prosecutors. he was there. he was on the other side. so that only leaves the public. why are you still making a pitch to the public? this is getting into a chronic stage. you are in serious difficulty with your client. trying to make this pitch to the public is a very dangerous thing. and it's not going to help. >> if michael cohen made $130,000 payment out of his own pocket, even from a credit line to stormy daniels, and it was deemed to have been a campaign contribution, an in-kind contribution, he might have
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exposure for not having declared it, vis-a-vis the fec, but would the president have any exposure in that regard? that's what mystifies me as to rudy's assertion and why he would have made it. >> the president would have exposure. i think we have to put this in perspective that campaign finance violations are ordinarily not treated as criminal matters. the john edwards prosecution under a similar set of facts, money going to a mistress as opposed to a one-night stand, did lead to his indictment. did lead to his trial but it did not lead to his conviction. and many of us questioned how strong that case really was. so we have to keep that in perspective. but if the president, particularly through his lawyers engaged in a knowing effort to conceal campaign finance contributions as retainer fees, yeah, he could be pulled into this. the other problem is that the team seems to be pivoting away from the president's former
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position. i think they've concluded, particularly with the documents that were secured in the raid against cohen, that they could no longer factually and legally maintain the position that he was in. but in tacking away from that position, they left cohen where he was. he is alone and not in a good place. and that can be very dangerous because he can be very dangerous. if he decides to cooperate with prosecutors. >> i have a defense for michael cohen. you want to hear it? >> i am eager to hear it. >> all right. it's a defense that says we paid $130,000 ten days out from the election. we were looking at the same polls as everybody else. nate silver et al gave us no shot to win. we didn't think we were going to win. therefore, we didn't pay $130,000 with the election in mind. we paid $130,000 with the future of donald trump, his brand, his marriage, his family. it had nothing to do with the
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election. you buying it? >> i'm afraid not. first of all, trump had a reputation with regard to these types of liaisons that pre-existed and also followed these disclosures. but more importantly, giuliani himself undermined that argument. at first he said this was all about saving the marriage and then he immediately contradicted himself and said it wasn't about the marriage. it was about his reputation. and then the next day, could you imagine if this had gotten out during the presidential debates. >> october '15. >> right. >> so he himself can't seem to maintain a coherent narrative. this isn't rocket science. you sit down and you create your narrative for defense. the only thing you have to do is preserve its clarity and coherence. giuliani -- >> i know, but i have to say this, professor. he's a smart guy. mayor giuliani is a smart guy. so i continue to give him the benefit of the doubt wondering,
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are the rest of us missing something that we haven't picked up in a grand scheme. thank you for being here. i always appreciate your analysis. >> thank you. what are your thoughts? tweet me @smerconish. if a point of that statement is that he doesn't know all the facts and is not speaking on behalf of the president, why should we listen to or believe anything rudy says? that's the question people are asking about the white house now. that it's death by a thousand cuts. like the doctor, the whole doctor ronny issue and the doctor from new york and the president having dictated that. in the scheme of things, is it a big deal? no. but when you add them all up, it's problematic. one more, if we have time for it. is a retainer fee or retain her fee? this legal stuff is so confusing. david, it's the only time -- i said it's the only case where a
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billionaire has to use a retainer in $35,000 monthly installments to pay a $130,000 debt. it strains creduality. go to smerconish.com. do the latest developments now imperil the presidency? the president has been seesawing about submitting to questions by robert mueller's team by dragging it out this long. is he risking giving the democrats more power, those who want to impeach? during the campaign, the president famously said, what have you got to lose to unemployed african-american voters. well, the unment nemployment nu has dipped below 4% and black unemployment is also at historic lows. so was he right? >> i'd say, what do you have to lose? and they voted for me, and we won, but now the numbers are much higher than they ever were
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year 2000 leading the president to tweet, just out, under 4% unemployment. meantime, witch hunt. you have to admit. black unemployment is down to 6.6%, an all-time low. does he deserve credit? joining me now, christopher lue, former deputy secretary of labor for president obama and steven moore, chief economist at the heritage foundation and cnn senior economics analyst. christopher, if these numbers came in on obama's watch, you'd be psyched, no? >> yeah, the numbers did come in under our watch. if we're looking simply at african-american unemployment, that dropped 9 percentage points since the peak of the recession. it's dropped another percentage point during the trump administration. so if we're going to give credit, let's give 90% of that credit to president obama and 10% to president trump. >> steven, i imagine your ratio is slightly difference. go ahead.
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>> so, you know, during the campaign, one of the things we always talked to donald trump about was this idea of a rising tide lifts all boats. that if you can get the economy growing faster and a robust business expansion, that will benefit everybody. we're starting to see the fruits of that. it's not just the low unemployment rate for everyone. as you mentioned, the fact we have the lowest black unemploy am rate since the beatles were still playing together. hispanic unemployment rate is also the lowest it's been in recorded history. i watch cnn. i want to congratulate you, michael, for covering this story because it's a story, frankly, that others on cnn really don't cover because it's the russia probe 24/7. and what people care most about, you know, certainly during the campaign was getting the economy moving again. and i think a lot of positive results so far. one statistic, michael, that we're still concerned about, if we really want to see this
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economy explode. we want to see an increase in the labor force participation rate. that's the one that still hasn't moved as much as we'd like. getting millions on the sidelines back into the workforce. >> and i guess i'll put it to christopher now. it was going to raise this with you but in the sake of fairness in terms of time, that was candidate trump's position, right? i often heard christopher from candidate trump that you can't believe the obama era unemployment numbers because they don't reflect all the people who have given up. now i see he's the president and wants some credit, deservedly so, for 3.9%. he seems to have forgotten the argument that was just made. christopher, your reaction? >> that's exactly right. it's ichronic that a president who criticized the government numbers as phony and hoax is now taking credit for them. we often know the presidents get too much credit and too much blame for the economy and unemployment numbers. when i look more broadly at this issue of what do
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african-americans have to lose, i'm not just looking at jobs. i'm looking at the president's rhetoric and the atmosphere he's created. his attack on black nfl players. his embrace of people like roy moore, charlottesville, his policies on the affordable care act. so this is not just about jobs. it's not just about wages. it's about the tone that this president has set in this country and a sense that african-americans feel like he is embracing policies that help people for everyone except for them. >> except that i would make the case -- go ahead. >> stephen, christopher brings this up in a bigger political context. i'm curious to ask you something. front page in "the new york times" today has side by side stories above the fold. one about stormy daniels. and one about the jobless rate. and i'm sitting here wondering in 2020, which of these matters more to american voters? >> i couldn't have put it better. this is the case i've been making quite often that if you look at the polls, you know,
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going up through the couple years before the 2016 election, very clear what americans cared most about, undeniably, was jobs and the economy. that was first and foremost on americans' mind because obama did the best he could but we had the weakest recovery from a recession since the great depression. people didn't feel good about things. look, i'm going to agree with a democratic president, michael, bill clinton who said it's the economy, stupid. if we get an economy this strong 2 1/2 years from now, despite all donald trump's other issues, i think he'll win 40 states because people feel better about their financial situation in their lives. >> christopher, the wages are stagnant. i guess that's the down side of the economic picture that we face now. why is that the case? take it out of a partisan context. just explain to me as a guy who would like to know, why are wages not popping? >> well, look, at 3.9%, you'd expect wages to be high are than the 2.6% increase that we've
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had. in part, i think we're starting to see there's much more slack in the labor market than we've had in the past. and we're starting to see the economy maybe not being what we always thought it was and whether it's because of globalization or automation, the economy is just different at this point. but i will say more broadly to your point, the fact that the president's approval ratings are mired in the lower 40s shows that the economy does matter. but people want a president whose values reflect theirs. the economy will provide ultimately less of a boost to him than perhaps it has to other presidents in the past. >> michael, one quick point. on the wage issue, you're right. the whole point of this tax cut that we did with the president was to try to get a tighter labor market so that wages would rise. i'm going to make a prediction. i believe you'll start to see wages rise at a faster pace because there's this demand -- there's 6 million more jobs today than there are people to
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fill them. there was an article in "the washington post" yesterday that said in some areas of the country, businesses are paying $25,000 bonuses to blue collar workers to get them to sign up. that's an indication this tight labor market is going to translate hopefully into higher wages in the months to go come. >> christopher, a ten-second rebuttal and then we're done. >> wages will increase because the labor market is tight, not because of tax cuts that went to the wealthy and corporations. >> that's what created the tight labor market. >> appreciate you both having been here. let's see what you're saying. job numbers and the economy will not help this administration. the midterms in 2020 will focus on social issues only. tanya, i don't know the answer to that question. it's like a tale of two cities. some fixated on only one aspect and others on the other. we'll carve those words from,
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what year was that, '92, be true in 2020? time will tell. will he or won't he. the president's back and forth about testifying before robert mueller's russia probe is taking so long, it's about to smack into those midterms, which could give the dems the power to make his impeachment more likely. and this facebook post by a black harvard law graduate about a misdelivered package went viral because he says he was too afraid to allow his sons to bring it to his neighbor's house. it got a ton of response. you wouldn't accept an incomplete job from any one else. so why accept it from your allergy pills? most pills don't finish the job because they don't relieve nasal congestion. flonase allergy relief is different. flonase relieves sneezing, itchy, watery eyes
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friday a district judge seemed to agree. district judge t.s. ellis, a reagan appointee, told the prosecutor you don't really care about mr. manafort's bank fraud. mueller's interest is all about trying to get to trump and that crimes committed before the trump campaign do not relate to the issue of coordination with the russian government. also on friday, the president repeated his claim he wants to talk with special counsel robert mueller but with caveats. >> i would love to speak because we've done nothing wrong. i would love to go. i would love to speak, but i have to find that we're going to be treated fairly. i have to find that we're going to be treated fairly. >> this is the latest chapter in the will he or won't he gamesmanship about a mueller/trump showdown about whether the president will grant an interview or have to be subpoenaed in the russia probe. the latest is that a source is telling jim acosta the president's lawyers and mueller
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are making a final push toward a final decision and that it's a 50/50 chance of an interview happening. should the president be subpoenaed to testify, this source said the likelihood is the trump legal team would fight that all the way to the supreme court. that could take another 9 to 15 months. here's what strikes me. the ongoing delays might not be to the president's advantage. mueller can't cleanly wrap up his probe without the president's perspentive, at least with regard to the obstruction inquiry. my gut after looking at the list of leaked possible questions, just an outline really is they could easily take two to three days of testimony with our commander in chief. but rudy giuliani would limit the president's interview to two or three hours. the longer this posturing goes on, the more likely it pushes the conclusion beyond the midterm election which would have once seemed unfathomable but now there's no end in sight. if, in fact, it does linger, it
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raises the prospect that when it's resolved, democrats could control the house, maybe even the senate, and that becomes important because mueller is in all probability, preparing a report to give to rod rosenstein that will go to the congress that in some people's minds along partisan lines will be grounds for impeachment. it's to the president's advantage that the mueller probe be wrapped up asap while republicans are in control of the house and senate. otherwise it keeps the prospect of impeachment in the national discussion, not necessarily because of the facts, but because of who controls the congress. joining me to discuss is david olene from cornell law school. let's game this out. mueller wraps up his work and then what happens? presumably he takes it to rosenstein. does rosenstein give it to congress? does it become public? what do we know? >> rosenstein is not required to release the report to the public
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but he certainly is allowed to. there's some constraints on this, of course. any confidential information in the report, any classified information would have to be redacted. also grand jury testimony is usually confidential. that would have to be pulled out of the report. i would expect mueller maybe even sending a full classified version to rosenstein and then an unclassified executive summary that could be released to the public. even though rosenstein doesn't have to release that to the public, my bet is he really would because rosenstein's legacy is on the line here. he's really under a lot of political attacks. my best guest is rosenstein would probably give the report to key members of congress but then also release a portion of it to the wider public so that there can be a political dialogue about what happens next. >> there are a lot of comparisons between mueller and ken starr but if you get into the weeds you find you don't have the same charge because of
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a change in the law. here's my question. do you expect that robert mueller will reach legal conclusions? >> depends what you mean by legal conclusions. if you mean will the report -- >> obstruction. >> what? obstruction, will the report say -- >> yeah, will he say obstruction? i think he'll say i have gathered substantial information and substantial evidence which leads me to suspect that the president may have engaged in obstruction of justice. he won't say the president committed obstruction of justice because that's really for the fact finder to decide. and i also think he might feel constrained by current justice department policy which says that a sitting president can't be indicted. so i'd expect the sentence would read something like this. i have probable cause to believe that the president engaged in obstruction of justice and otherwise i would indict but can't indict because he's currently the occupant in the
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oval office. that's the type of legal conclusion he would reach. >> okay. you heard my introduction relative to the whole timing of this vis-a-vis the midterm elections. here's a scenario. let's imagine mueller comes in with a report relative to obstruction before the midterm elections. while republicans still control the house and the senate. and the gop takes no action. but there is a majority democrat control of the house come next year. could the ds still pick that report up? is there any time limitation? could they act on it if the rs did not? >> there's absolutely no procedural barrier to the democrats re-engaging with the report and saying the republicans really didn't deal with it appropriately and we now want to file articles of impeachment. now that the democrats have control over the house judiciary committee. and then there would be a trial in the senate. i would take it one step
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further, your hypothetical. even if there was an impeachment in the house and the case went to the senate and there was a trial and the president wasn't removed, none of that prevents the house from filing new articles of impeachment and impeaching the president a second time and forcing a second trial in the senate. you can do that as many times as you wanted. the constraint here is political. there would be a lot of pressure on the democrats. the republicans would be accusing them of having a second bite of the apple and the democrats might feel like maybe we should let this go. i also think -- >> one more scenario. this is almost like good bar room chat for geeks. let's imagine that mueller comes in with a report relative to obstruction because i understand mueller may release his findings in stages. it comes in on the watch of the rs. the rs run it up the flag pole for a vote while they control the house, knowing they can vote it down. now democrats take control of the house.
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can they resurrect it? i think you've told me yes. >> yeah, they can totally resurrect it and have a second bite of the apple and, you know, a new house with democrats in control. i think that they could -- i think they can definitely impeach and send it to the senate for a trial. i think you really have to think about what happens in the midterm elections. you're asking all of the right questions. i really see three different scenarios here. one, republicans retain control of the house. two, democrats manage to harness a lot of this sort of dissatisfaction with trump. and they take control of the house. and, therefore, impeachment is more likely. but ironically, consider the possibility that there's a massive blue wave. and the democrats almost sweep the house. at that point, i wonder if it's possible democrats will decide they don't want to pursue impeachment, even if they have the legal power to do so because they decide they'd rather go
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into the next presidential election with a weakened trump rather than try and remove him and have a president pence go into the next election. >> jens, thank you. interesting analysis. i think we're ahead of the curve on this. >> excellent. thank you very much for having me. let's check in on your tweets and facebook comments. i think from facebook, you can't wrap it up when you know you're guilty so it must be drawn out as long as possible. i don't think it's too his advantage, kelly and walt klein. meaning to the president's advantage, that this be drawn out. he wants the results to come in while republicans control the house and the senate. this whole subject bums me out because it's not evidenceiary thinking. it's not fact based. it's an acknowledgment by me that ultimately where this goes is predicated on partisanship and not on fact. one more, if i have time for it. all trump needs to do is answer
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mueller's questions with this response. i don't recall. >> look, he is -- the president, i say this as a trial lawyer who has defended hundreds if not a few thousand depositions. he is one tough client because he's loquacious. it's hard to get him to stop speaking, and it will be hard for him to follow anybody's direction, even that of rudy giuliani. so i don't know that he'll be so inclined as to invoke the old "i don't recall." answer the survey question at smerconish.com. do the latest developments arising out of the stormy daniels case now imperil the presidency? results at the end of this hour. still to come -- when this man, a harvard law school graduate got a package meant for a neighbor, he was too scared to redeliver it or allow his sons to do so because he lives in a predominently white neighborhood and his facebook post about this went absolutely viral. he's here to discuss.
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to your home. meant for somebody who lives nearby. what do you do? you just walk it over to them, right? when that happened recently to an attorney in arizona named sean carter, he called to have it picked up and redelivered. why? as he explained in a viral facebook post because he is black. in carter's post, which so far has more than 210,000 likes and 120,000 shares, he explained neither he nor his teenage sons could walk it over because there was a, quote, realistic chance that a neighbor would see them as a threat and call the police or even pull a gun. carter cited the recent story of a michigan 14-year-old named brennan walker who was lost and knocked on a door to ask for directions. the homeowner afraid walker was a burglar summoned her husband who opened fire on the teen. so carter wrote, quote, i can't trust that my white neighbors won't see me, a harvard educated lawyer or my 14-year-old honor student son as a roaming
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homicide ol maniac. this is what it's like to be black in post-racial america. in response, his post was flooded with 79,000-plus comments both from sympathizers and from those calling him a racist and a-hole and many other things. carter then asked in a subsequent post. why all the vitriol, because i'm afraid for my children? even if my fear was completely irrational, isn't that a reason for anger and hatred? how does your wife and how do your sons feel about this whole controversy? >> as far as my wife, and that's how i found out about it. the package is on the front porch. i asked her. she says it's for a neighbor. she already looked at the address and it's not on our street where our neighbors know us, but a couple blocks over. and, from us, it was unspoken that we would not be delivering that package.
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let's understand. i live in a gated community here in arizona. we have gates for a couple of reasons. one, to keep the old people from running off, and that's a problem, but also there's a reason that you have gates and it's not to keep the rich people out. it's to keep out the undesirable element. now right now, i have a suit on. i don't look like the undesirable element but in a hoodie, in weekend attire, i could look like the person you'd call to worry about your neighborhood. i wasn't going to subject myself or my 14-year-old sons to that. the conversation i had with my sons are interesting because, you know, they weren't raised like i was. i'm straight out of compton. and i don't just mean i have the t-shirt and i saw the movie. i have it on my birth certificate. i was raised knowing i was black. i have to tell you that my sons have had to be taught. i had a conversation with my youngest son once explaining to
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him he was black. he's like, no, i'm light brown. i said let me explain what this means. we're having these conversations quite often. it's funny their reactions are a lot like probably some of your -- some of the critics on facebook. i took the kids to see "hidden figures" last year. almost had to pull a gun on a couple of them to get them to see it. my oldest said you just want me to see this because i want you to hate white people. i had to explain that's only 90% of it. i want him to understand where his history comes from and they have to understand that things are just different for us. it's not horrible -- >> i take from this -- by the way, i appreciate the levity. send your e-mails to sean carter when you add up that 90% reference he just made. the 14-year-old it sounds to me like the 14-year-old saying, dad, just let me take the package. >> well, no, he -- that would be like the 23-year-old. the 14-year-old is just starting
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to get some of these things. let me give you a great example. this is what's amazing to me. the post i had. this is a twinge of blackness. if you can compare being black to a chronic illness like back problems or knee problems. this is just a twinge, something you go, oh, i'm black and move on. this doesn't ruin your whole day but he's starting to understand that there are things he can and cannot do. let me give you a more serious one. one day he's out playing with the kids, and they have these air soft guns. you know, the toy guns. and i had to explain to him that that's not something he can do outside of our home anymore because you cannot be a young black boy holding anything that looks like a weapon. and at first he didn't really understand until i showed him the tamir rice video and i tried to explain to him this is just, you know, one of the limitations that you'll have in life. now i'm not saying he's going to be totally limited, life is going to be horrible. i've had a decent life, okay?
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it's worked for me. you can work this out, but there are just limitations that come to -- with being a black man in america. >> sean, the radio discussion that i had based on your facebook post maybe unsurprisingly broke largely along racial lines. and where many people in the facebook posts reveal their race, i was sad to see the same kind of a thing going on in the facebook world. i wish i had more time. it's a great conversation. i'm glad that you were here. >> thank you so much for having me, michael. >> still to come, your best and worst tweets and facebook comments. and the final results of today's survey question at smerconish.com. quickly vote. do the latest developments arising out of the stormy daniels case now imperil the presidency? hotel, car and activity all in one place. ♪
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all right. we're going to find out together. time to see how you responded to the question at smerconish.com. do the latest developments arising out of the stormy daniels case now imperil the presidency? look, you guys are going to think i'm fed this. i'm not. katherine, check this out. a pure guess on my part. i wish they could hear the control room to acknowledge that i don't get fed the answers. that's pretty damn close, isn't it? i'm also predicting the 76% turn it around and beat the celtics. here is some of what came in during the course of the program. what have you got? the length of the probe is ma making most of us numb to the
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issues that are lead stories in liberal media. wrap it up and let potus do his job. joe, i'm stormy'd out. michael avenatti is a very skilled lawyer but i've had my fill of he and his client at this stage. this thing keeps going in different directions. what's next? what's the most likely trump impeached voted out in 2020, resigning or winning in 2020? a-ro-spo, you want to bet against anything i tell you. i never thought he had a shot to begin to begin with, something that he has never let me forget. you've got to say that the incumbent is always the favorite. which story is more important? there they are, side by side. is it stormy or is it the economy? i think carvel is still right. one more if i have time for it.
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