we do begin this hour with breaking news. a spokesman for the israel defense forces say more than 20 rockets were filed from syria believed to be fired by iranian face forces. the day after president trump announced the united states would leave the iran nuclear deal. it was to say the least a controversial decision with some concerns being it could light a fuse in the middle east. the hope tonight is that the fuse has not been lit. oren liebermann joins from us the golan heights. orin, resign what's happening now, what are you learning? >> anderson, over the course of the last couple of hours here in the golan heights overlook syria

behind me we have seen dozens of rockets fired from syria into israeli territories and interceptions from the iron dome army testifies system on top of that syrian and i aircraft firing at what appears to be israel surface to surface missiles we have heard artillary fire from israel fighting towards syria. all of that is on top. what you pointed out shortly after midnight local time there was a report from the israel defense force that is 20 rockets were fired from syria into israel. so the israeli military says they are responding. we have seen part of the response. but the response is expected to continue. and we expect more information on what that response was, who the target was, although, john as you pointed out israel says it was the elite division of erinen revolutionary guard in stationed in syria. >> what evidence do they have that it was the quds force. >> they haven't said

specifically what intelligence leads them to believe it was the iranian revolutionary forward force firing the missiles. but we know yesterday the israel military detected irregular iranian activity in syria. we know that israel has been expecting some sort of iranian response over the last few weeks and perhaps even months. that's because there have been a number of strikes in syria targeting iranian positions that syria and and iran blamed and israel. israel expected a opinions. it believes this is part of that the response. they've been high alert opened up bomb shelters throughout the golan heights. at this point the israel military has not instructed people to go in the shelters. i'm not sure about the freedom of movement. but do you have any information about casualties or damage? >> so far in this information is a few hours old we are wait be for the update but the israel says there is light damage here and no information on any casualties whether injured or killed on this side. we have heard from the syrian military or rather syrian state media saying they have

intercepted israel missiles fired at israel. the information is limited on both sides. but we have seen first hand the firing back and forth whether rockets from syria into israel or artillery fire back the other way. john it's worth pointing out that israel and iran have danced closer to each other, moved closer to each towards direct confrontation over weeks and months given what we have seen tonight this is at least part of that first direct confrontation between israel and iran. if it is indeed the quds force firing the rockets. >> orin please stay safe. joining me knew is adam kensinger of illinois a member of the house foreign affairs committee. this is a development over the last few hours right now. the increasing conflict in the region between, you know iranian forces it appears and israel as well. do you believe that if it was the quds gears it was a direct response to the u.s. pulling out of israel.

>> if they got in israel a long time. iran has been building a land bridge in syria frankly before president trump. this is iran's attempt to continue to antagonize israel as they said to wipe israel off the map atom point you have to take them seriously. the israelis as we would if something is happening on our border are taking them seriously. they have taken measured responses and limited responses. but if tonight there were actual 20 rockets fired from iranian direct command elements this is a major escalation. i frankly would expect that the -- that the israelis will begin clearing the decks of israeli targets in syria probably soon. >> one of the concerns about the united states pulling out of the iran deal, the nuclear deal as it did as we said it would light a fuse in a region already combustible now. do you have concerns it has shaken up the region more.

>> no, i mean again this was announced a few days ago. even if people suspect to do iran didn't determine they were getting involved in syria because we might pull out of the iran deal. frankly they got the resources from the iran deal to go into the seer syria. people can disagree on the decision injury it was the right one. because he has refilled the sanction quivers to negotiate a deal that goes beyond the nuclear agreement and includes what they're doing in syria. the iranian regime with the russians and especially with bashar al assad are responsible for 500,000 dead syrians, 50,000 of which are children. and they have a lot of blood on their hands. >> one of the things bore insis johnson the foreign secretary for the uk says he has seen no plan b. i know you're supportive of the move but you want to see a comprehensive strategy from the trump administration. have you seen that strategy. >> i've had discussion was state department. the in nirk initial part of the strategy is reinstating

sanctions. not snapping them back tomorrow. they're working with the allies to understand the investments they have in iran to extricate themselves from. what the sanctions reimposed mean and we can compel iran back to the table and let's get a deal. the only reason we're concerned about iran's nuclears is because the broader behavior. america is a powerful country. we sometimes underestimate the power that our economy and our leadership has. while diplomacy is is an art form it's not science. this is the right thing to begin to raney in the broader bare. because there may have been a temporary freeze on iran's nuclear behavior but look at syria and they're on the border of israel today. and that's unacceptable. >> israel says they are launching mitchells. in the golan heights. you suggested israel might respond forcibly over the next few days. what do you think the u.s. role

should be over the next few days. >> i think we'll back up our ally israel. i don't think we're necessarily going to join in the strikes. but we'll make sure to defendant the territorial integrate of israel. if iran escalates the u.s. may be involved. but if you lived in israel and you had 150,000 hezbollah rockets pointed at you and the people in hezbollah and iran they want to wipe you off the map you'd be ludicrous to not take that seriously. i think the prime minister has taken measure the responses and today if iran decided to fire 20 rockets into the golan heights i expected there is massive retaliation. >> one more foreign policy question wail you have here. of course the three americans on the way home now the one detained in north korea should land in the united states in the next few hours. if you're north korea, and you're looking ahead to this summit between the presidents and you see what the united states did with the iran deal, would you approach these

negotiations differently? would you have concerns or hesitate about putting your faith in the united states? >> i would have concerns because i know the deal i struck would have to be iron clad and would lead to me never having nuclear weapons in north korea. i think this us saying this a flawed mental. he was scoldland by the chinese counterparts and saying you're not have nukes again. if he thought he could build a loop hole with the president he is sorely mistaken. that will send that message. >> adam kensinger of illinois thank you for being us us. >> we're are getting new information about the money trail of michael cohen according multiple people familiar with conduct after the election. the president's personal attorney aggressively pitched himself to clients and landed lucrative consulting dells. and payments to the shell company after the election. emjay lee joins us with more about that and you're learning more about how he would pitch himself and offer access to president trump.

>> we have known michael cohen as being donald trump's lawyer but tonight we see the different picture of michael cohen ee emerge. the man who was the attorney to the president-elect and acted quickly to try to capitalize on that. we're told cohen went around pitching himself to companies and trying to land the lucrative consulting deals. and what he proposed was access to president trump. remember, cohen has been trump's lawyer many years. he was known as trump's right-hand man and fixer. what he did was remind the companies that he is very close to his boss that he could help the firms navigate the new white house. so i just want to give you one example of what this would have looked like after the election we are told cohen approached a pharmaceutical company called novartis and land add one-year deal with them promising them access to the white house on things related to health care policy. now the interesting twist here though is that apparently novartis and cohen had a initial meeting and the company realized actually cohen can't help us on health care policy.

however they paid him for the month for a year for a total of $$1.2 million. >> for one meeting. has mienl cohen or the white house responded to this story at all. >> michael cohen stayed silent about this. the white house doesn't want to touch it either. we saw white house press secretary sarah sanders asked about the payments to cohen multiple times today. and she said repeatedly that reporters should relay the questions to trump's outside counsel. she was asked specifically about whether cohen is qualified to advise corporations on the president. i thought her response was telling. she said i'm not ge into anybody els qualifications. essentially this is for the companies to decide not her. the white house is definitely not going out of its way to defend cohen. even though this is a man who has said he would take a bullet for donald trump and of course the huge question now is whether

cohen is going to maintain that loyalty to his boss. we know he is under tremendous pressure right now john as he confronts the consequences of criminal investigation. >> we foe robert mueller and his team were asking about the deals as far back as last november and december. thanks for being with us. coming up we follow the michael cohen money trail as a firm that made payments tries to distance itself from a russian oligarch which has russian ties. now reporting on that when we come back. this is bill's yard. and bill has a "no-weeds, not in my yard" policy. but with scotts turf builder weed & feed, bill has nothing to worry about. it kills weeds and greens grass, guaranteed. this is a scotts yard.

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with me davidian gergen, and and david i want to start with you. and there is a lot of russian this and that. this is a american company linked to a russian oligarch. pretty directly linked. and this company paid michael cohen $500,000. >> right. >> presidential hangers on, it's nothing new. but getting $500,000 from a company linked to a russian oligarch when there is a russia investigation going on, is that suspicious or just stupid? or all of the above. >> it doesn't pass the laugh test. listen, i think there is a distinction to be made between this company lake and the companies like novartis and at&t there is a reason they need to know what's going on in the white house. i think it was in terrible taste on everybody's part. this company has no business that really is at hand at stake. and a $500,000 looks like it's a pay off or a brib or it's

something that crosses a legal line as well as an ethical line. it's clearly unethical. and the influence peddling. if you are working with a company in washington you do it as a lobbyist and they call you as a lobbyist or try to call the white house sources. they don't give the president's hit man or lawyer or fixer $500,000. >> that's a hell of a lot of mean. -- money >> i can read this statement. what one republican strategy uft describes as cohen sales pitch. telling people i don't know who you should be representing pu many i'm the guy who should represent you. i'm his guy. i'm the president's person lawyer. not a lot of ambiguity there kirsten >> what david a said is right if you're an american company you are trying to get access to donald trump when he came into office a lot of people panicked because you couldn't go to the regular k street lobbyist and have access. he didn't have a lot of people and michael cohen would have

been one of them this is unfortunately how washington works. i'm not endorsing this. but he would need to register as a lobbyist. if he is just giving advice and not arranging meetings. >> he doesn't need to register. >> if for the money that suggests they want more than just what is donald trump like and probably wanted some access to the white house. if he arrange meetings he needs to be registered. so i think that -- yeah it's very suspicious, have swampy. that's the biggest take away i have which is donald trump said he was going to come and clean up the swamp. and this is just the swampiest behavior of all. >> i agree it's incredibly swampy. guess what they got no where they wasted their money. the russian wasted rubble rubles on this speaking to thele vadty of the souf revolution, meaning that how do i know because the russians what did he they get in exchange, got sanctions war in syria. >> no investigation into the.

>> they got us arming the ukraine. so these were rubles terribly they had to go to court to sue the federal government in terms of novartis big pharma didn't get anything it wanted. i have no doubt that michael cohen was really terribly trying to influence peddle. that's a terrible thing and acting swampy. but the reality and the great reality for donald trump is it didn't matter. he was selling a false bill of goods because swamp tactics are done in this white house. we now have a citizen president, someone sow o with no government experience before. a mogul who can't be bought and wasn't bought even though perhaps his personal attorney tried to sell him. >> he can be rented. >> no. >> yes. >> no. >> why did russia -- why would sanctions against. >> you gave your commercial let me give some facts. >> that's not a commercial. >> the russian connected company gave a $500,000. >> it's american. >> it's russian connected

company gave a $500,000 not really to michael cohen but a limited liability corporation set is he he want up called central consultants. he told us it was set up to pay stormy daniels hush money. now, if in fact others are reimbursing mr. cohen that like russians reimbursing it. >> and at&t. >> and at&t and shall we're see saying at&t is reimbursing stormy daniels. >> what they get is leverage on the president. the president has from the beginning seemed very compromised by mr. putin. >> why is he. >> he slapped sanctions, the very on the very oligarch who supposedly bought him. >> i let you filibuster aim not letting you lie. >> did not slap sanctions on the very oligarch no he didn't. >> >> he was forced to by congress. >> congress made him do it. did he send cruise missiles

>> did he arm the ukraine. >> does he once criticize >> i do. never. >> he attacked his own attorney general more than he attacked putin he is in putin's pocket. >> they wasted the rubles immensely. >> don't start yelling me when i start talking. there's been no investigation into the hacking of american election. that is a major thing that has not happened. so i don't think it's fair to say that he has been tough on the russians. i'll answer paul's question. he never ever criticizes vladimir putin. and you know that. you can point to a couple of things. the sanctions are not fair because congress made him. >> a couple of things raining cruise missiles on the air base for the a couple of things. >> first of all, steve you're saying he is a whole step further which is saying the russians didn't get anything out of the investment into michael cohen. we don't know that a hundred%. but that doesn't change the fact that they went after him and maybe michael cohen solicited we

know he solicited novartis. did the president sanction in dunn the president didn't sanction that. >> i can't prove the negative. >> i don't know either. we dope know that tonight which is why these questions are so interesting and hang on -- hang on. i'll bring you in the conversation right now. another thing he no is that the special counsel has been asking we questions about this dating back months. >> we do know that. we know the special counsel has talked to the russian oligarch, asking questions with these payments that there were conversation was novartis. we know it's a piece of the conversation that they're having in the investigation. and one other things to talk about the investigation to the election hacking, mueller's team is clearly investigating russian involvement and whether the trump campaign had any -- there is an investigation into that question of whether whether the trump campaign collude -- i hate that word expiring and aiding and abetting the russians in that. what hasn't been done is the

deeper question of have we taken any efforts to stop american elections from being haktd in the future? i think that's where we really have problems. >> one second robin i want to let you jump in. >> david go ahead. >> the fundamental argued you may is the russian made a terrible investment and haven't gotten anything. we don't know that yet. we don't know that until we figure out how much of meddling they did and how much of an influence they had on the elections. one second. it's way premature. >> can i respond. michigan who died to elect him blue collar people who have been the forgotten workers of america they didn't vote because of russia they voted because donald trump spoke to their anxiety i don't want to talk about wisconsin and michigan. >> it's important. >> because the payments to michael cohen happened after the election. in this case they're not important one bit. what i want to ask you, rob we heard a little bit from steven we hear from trump affiliates

and associates right now is the beginning of throwing michael cohen under the bus. is it plausible that there is separation in can you separate michael cohen from the president. >> michael coisn't a casualty of war in this. mueller is going after trump and use anyone in the path to try to get to trump. cohen is now part of the psychological warfare that mueller is using against trump. but you know, the interesting thing everyone seems like they're on the board of directors of column because nova and to know what columbus nova is going to do in the future or what kind of investments they have. nobody knowing anything what they were looking for out of michael cohen or advise, just like at&t or novartis. you are making assumptions here. but the one thing that hasn't been discussed nothing to do with donald trump. nothing has anything to do with the president. >> this is the man's attorney. >> nothing. >> he has a picture. >> nothing to do with donald trump.

>> if he is transitioning money -- if he is making money because he has insight he is one of the 11,040 oh registered lobbies. >> he is not registered in anything. >> hang on. >> one second rob. >> everyone reload we'll take a quick break and we have more to discuss. we'll continue the conversation. also ahead, the new danger in hawaii where a volcano is erupting again. speaking of eruptions. we'll go there in a little bit. discover card. hey, i'm curious about your

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republican strategist. he courted companies saying i don't know who has been representing you but you should fire them, i'm the guy you should hire. i'm closest to the president. i'm miss herman lawyer. now it may have worked with at least several companies. who we learned paid cohen after the election. one of the companies was at&t. at least $200,000 for what it called insight into the new administration. at&t is trying to acquire cnn's parent company time warner. the justice department sued to prevent the merger in november of last year. tonight we did learn the special counsel's office contacted at&t about cohen in november of 2017. the company says they cooperated fully. back now with the panel david gergen. you alluded to this before what at&t says it was looking for was insight and hoag for was insight and information in the trump kmrgs administration. novartis after being contacted by miebl cohen wanted an in on health care.

what do you make of companies trying to use this type of figure to get close to the white house. >> i think this happens a lot. people do -- when they leave the white house they often set up lobbying companies with somebody who is a top republican, a top democrat and one of the things they do is they can interpret what's going on inside if you're worried about a regulation coming down or something like that it's been done since time immemorial. what we're looking for is not that. it is distinguishable by the fact that there was registered. as he should have. it's a slimy proposition. but i come back to the russian related company. interests no obvious corporate reason why they want to know what's going on. i mean, do you guys -- do you not think it's at least suspicious -- do you think it's suspicious the $500,000 that went to cohen do you think that's suspicious. >> i absolutely do david. i do. and i think they wasted their money because they got nothing from team trump.

>> do we know that. >> it's not just corporations the reason i know is because the way donald trump has publicly taken on putin and russia appearen also it's not just corporations let not be negative. it's not just american korgss trying to buy access it's the world. global -- global countries try to buy access. i know this because some of them came to me okay and i said no. it's scummy i don't want to partake in that. >> you also think it's scummy. >> that's good. >> apparently cohen said yes come on in. but i think foreign lobbying and foreign money in these sphere of the swamp is a terrible aspect of what washington is at its worst. the point is they can't buy trump. >> if interests any possibility that a foreign country is trying to influence the united states government you have to register. okay. so it doesn't matter this wasn't actually a foreign company. the fact that they had a relationship with a foreign company and appeared to be trying to influence the government, he should have registered. so there is something that's very, very shady about this. and you keep saying he didn't get anything and we don't know that. you said he is constantly -- i

can't remember your exact words continue fronting putin. in what universe is that happening. >> steve, eve steve let me ask you a question. if the president as you say is the ultimate swamp drainer like the beacon of swamp draining in the universe he knows michael cohen's number. why wouldn't he call up his personal lawyer and fixer and say hey, pal stop sell access. >> do you think he was aware of the details? i mean do you really think that? this man running the united states government. >> what we know you know who told me he was aware of some of the details involving the the llc rudy giuliani. rudy giuliani has been all over tv the last few weeks telling me that donald trump reimbursed through this retainer essential consultants llc. there is a direct connection with knowledge of the payments between the president. >> no. >> but you're mixing apples and

that's preelection. >> that's preelection problem fixing or whatever we want to call it. this is post election apparently access selling. >> daniels. >> the attorney for michael cohen we show clips from an interview we erin burnett was bragging about how he was sitting with michael cohen and president trump would call him to shoot the breeze on many subjects. i have no idea. all i know is what we've within told from michael cohen before. he had dinner at mar-a-lago. i don't know. >> they're close a and i'm not trying to diminish that. they are. they are close and have been for many years. i will say this. trying to focus on this on michael cohen in my view apparently acting in a very inappropriate manner, okay seems like it i'll be the first to say that i'm not defending michael cohen. i think it's also an attempt by the mainstream media to deflect from the massive great news in the world right now from north korea, to north dakota to north carolina. >> we spent hours.

we spent hours the last few days on the release of the hostages in north korea not to mention the removal of the iran nuclear deal. >> paul go ahead. >> here is something russia got. mueller apparently interviewed this oligarch connected to the american company six seven months ago. never leaked never out. that's a buttoned up shop. that's a professional ethical investigation. so i admire the mueller folks for never leaking this. i also admire them for looking into it. the time will be critical. when was mr. cohen paid? did he ever reach out? there will be phone records or logs that might indicate that. for example, one year ago tomorrow may 10th, our president brought sergei kizlyak. a reported russian spy into the oval office and gave guy him classified information according to reports. that's treason. classified information. >> rob is on your team let him respond. >> classified information that was reported by our allies in

israel who are under attack from mr. putin's allies in iran. >> the arbiter of all good things the lawyer for stormy daniels throws this out and earn eats it up eats up the chum. he draws the line from russia to this company for stormy daniels. but why don't we draw another line just for argument sake here. at&t which has an -- probably more at stake than anything that that other company or russia would want, at&t with a merger potentially with time warner parent company of cnn, is it possible that they would say, hey we got a big old thing coming up. here is some money. can you just help us maybe say we're a good company or lobby or give me some insight. now am i drying drawing a line says they're baying stormy daniels's bill. >> yes. >> why not. >> seriously. >> because that's absurd. >> they paid it to essential consultants. >> so the headline is at&t pays off stormy daniels?

>> is there a qualitative difference? if you're robert mueller who talked to all the entities would their interest in victor vekselberg be different than interest in at&t. what and why. >> if you're robert mueller you want to understand michael cohen plays a role in going to russia and trying to get a real estate development. for trump towers. >> in 2015. >> there is a lot of reasons robert mueller would be looking at michael cohen. just related to this investigation. you would start pulling bank records. there is always been a question as to the motivation for the relationship with russia and you know we know or we have reason to believe that there was even outreach potentially for members of the trump campaign to russia. and there is back and forth and efforts to get information. mueller is asking the question of what are the lengths? in the course of that he looks at michael cohen's bank records. the fact that there is russian -- that there is a connection to one of oligarchs who has been directly connected to the russian election hacking

has been to be significant, has to be someone he needs to speak to. he wants to know from the oligarch who are you talking to, what are you doing, what are you will go for? there is a ton of questions. the fact that at&t and novartis happen to be art of the bank records would be a question of what else is he doing? what's happening here? i don't think it necessarily falls in the same category as russia. but it's still of interest because there is no -- it's in this account. there is a lot of questions. >> quick last word david then a break. >> look there is every possibility that this money is not about buying access, the $500 but is a pay off for past services. we don't know that. but one of the things that's important and guess wak to paul's point is that mueller was interviewing them six months ago and guess what happened then. they raided the offices cohen because they thought a crime had been committed. they thought they had evidence. it's not a neutral fact when at the go into the office taking the hit that they got publicly

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what is believe to be iranian forces and days after the pull out of the nuclear deal. meanwhile three detainees on the way home from north korea tonight with a summit on the way. north korean analyst sumi. but the violence in the golan heights, missiles from syria, presumably the israelis say the iranian force. israel striking back in a measured way we've been told so far. but this is a really, really dangerous area. >> it's very dangerous. and unfortunately we are at a point with the united states is not in great speaking terms with european friends and other countries how to handle the middle east. so, you know -- i don't think that you can say the president's announcement touched this off. i think that goes too far based on what we know. what i think is obvious is that what's really been important here -- the president pulse off this north korean deal give him credit.

but on the iranian deal, there are four big decisions that the president has made that have directly spit in the eye of our long-term friends and allies, pulling out of paris climate change. pulling out of the transpacific inventory. the economic tariffs and then iran. that's a historic change and we're moving toward a different order. maybe a disorder from anything we have known before. that's real. we don't know what's causing the rockets tonight. >> we don't foe again the quds has been in syria for some time. iran likely to be the impetus for the launch. doctor if i can focus on the detainees landed in anchorage alaska and land in d.c. if a few hours. what do you think this means for the upcome summit taking place in singapore between trump and kim jong un. >> back to negotiation between pyongyang and washington are

going well because north koreans -- this is a good will gesture. they are looking for a bigger prize when kim jong un is sitting down with president trump. i think a grand bargain is what north korea is looking for now. this is a good will gesture. they shouldn't have kept the americans in the first place. so i don't think it's a big deal for them to do so. and so they're trying to lay the groundwork for a good meeting. >> not a major concession. kim jong un has a strategy. he knows what he is doing. in the last few months we have seen his actions he is smart and astute and he is looking for a strategy. he is looking for something bigger out of washington when he has the meeting with president trump. >> i want to read you something that secretary pompeo said in a toast last night. he said for decades we have been adversaries now we are hopeful we can work together to resolve the conflict. take away the threats to the country and make your country have all the opportunities your people richly deserve.

that's pretty historic for a u.s. secretary of state to be standing in north korea making that toast. to the north korean leader. >> it feels a little premature to me. i think that of course it's wonderful that these people have been able to be returned to the united states. i think we should also remember that there are four americans in iran right now who are probably in worse situation because of the president pulling out of the iran deal. so you know, in balance we still have obviously problems with hostages. but i think that you have to remember that north korea has been will go for a meeting like this for a long time. we don't know the agreements that were made to get the peegt. we tone know what's happening at the meeting. the worst case scenario is that they use it to make themselves look for legitimate on the world stanl and we don't get what we want. we have to wait and see what happens. it's not like they were never willing to sit down before. it's just the united states didn't feel like they could sit done yet.

>> rob. >> well the americans who were in iran have been detainted a while why did obama sign a deal and not make them come home. >> that's a fair criticism. >> at least the president. >> there were u.s. hostages who did come back at that time. >> not all of them. >> they'll give them what they gave them everyone should have come become. if this was a great deal president obama would have sent it to the senate for ratification. i remember my senator here in new york chuck schumer screaming and yelling about how bad a deal this was. and he was right. one time i ever agreed with chuck schumer. >> paul what we see whether you like it or not right now, is president trump driving the world agenda. i mean he is forcing events on this world stage. >> he is. and any american president can. back to dr. terry's president. kim jong un has a strategy i think she is right. i want my president to have a strategy. i'm terribly worried for all of his bufrt about what a great negotiator he is he is being horn swagled here.

>> these men should have never been held. and so kim gives them become. well that's fine. he is making a big thing and the president is very happy. he is going to stop testing. the site where he tests is a mountain collapsing from all the previous tests. he is not giving anything. and the president think he is getting a lot. >> no i want to get dr. ter's take with the ph.d.. i believe horn swagled is an accurate term? is the united states getting horn swagled. >> that's remaining to be even. the administration is clear eyed maybe not president trump but i think bolton and pompeo are clear eyed. but what president trump has done by pulling out of the iran deal he sets himself a high bar. we see what he accomplish was north korea because he just basically said to the world and to americans that deal was not good enough. whatever deal he makes with kim jong un better be tough completely irreversible.

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gina haspel faced some tough questioning before the senate intelligence committee today on the cia's use of torture in her bid to become the new director of the agency. she told committee members she would not sanction it. >> i would not allow cia to undertake activity that i thought was immoral, even if it was technically legal. i would absolutely not permit it. >> idaho republican senator jim rich was one of the committee members who questioned haspel. i spoke with him a little earlier. senator rich, you know gina haspel for ten years. you met with her in the field. why do you think she is

qualified to run the cia? >> well, this is a woman who has dedicated her life to doing this. she has been over 30 years with the cia. she started as a covert agent right at the bottom, worked her way all the way up. worked in the operation side of the agency, has been in the management side of the agency. she knows it backwards, forwards. she has been in through some of the tough times. look, we on the intelligence committee, we hear a lot of things every day to make us not sleep very well at night. with her as head of the agency, i'll sleep better at night. >> so many of your democratic colleagues did raise concerns today about her involvement in the enhanced interrogation program. i know you made it clear you do support her no matter what, but can you at least understand why your colleagues have these concerns? >> well, sure. they hate anything that donald trump does in this town. >> well, in this case, senator -- >> wait, wait, wait. >> this happened during the bush administration. this has to do with things that happened 15 years ago. this doesn't really have

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