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hi, i'm wolf blitzer. it's 12:00 noon in mexico city, 8:00 p.m. in sdwrjerusalem. wherever you're watching in the world, thank you for joining us. kelly sadler sent off a sensitive remark about john mccain. she joked that his opinion about the matter doesn't matter because, quote, he's dying, anyway.
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meghan mccain responded on "the view." >> since my dad was diagnosed, it's almost a year, jewuly 19, almost understand the meaning of life. it's not about how you die, it's about how you live. i don't know how you can say something like that and come back the next day and still have a job. that's all i'm going to say about that. >> i guess the fish stinks from the head, because it's easy to say something like that and not think that, oh, that is a wrong-headed comment to make out loud. you can think what you want, but you don't say this kind of thing out loud. >> let's go to our senior correspondent jeff zeleny. kelly sadler did call meghan mccain to apologize, but how is ameri the white house responding
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publicly about her statement? >> there is no public white house, but they did have one last evening saying they did respect john mccain and his service to the country, but they didn't respond beyond that. we know she is working at the white house today and all indications show she will remain working here. i expect more in the briefing with sarah sanders, but so far the white house standing behind her and not saying anything else today, wolf. >> i want to talk, jeff, about the president's blowup at his secretary of homeland security, kristin nielsen. he accused her of not doing enough to secure the border. he rebuked her with all other members of the cabinet. pretty humiliating, very embarrassing. the president's remarks were described as angry. kristin nielsen considered
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resigning, according to the news. she denies that. >> it shows how difficult at times it can be to work for the president. this was a meeting in the cabinet room earlier this week when secretary nielsen was surrounded by other cabinet officials, and the president was enraged by immigration. of course, it's one of his topics he talks about frequently. but we are told that it was -- he did a back and forth, she had pushed back and tried to explain what they are doing on the border, and her spokesperson at the department of homeland security said she did not threaten to resign. but wolf, we do know she was furious about this, she was angry about this. this is someone who worked inside the white house here via the west wing before she went to the department of homeland security. it just simply shines a light on the fact that the president is demanding in these respects. but the chief of staff -- the white house chief of staff john kelly, who is supportive of her
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and she was his deputy here at the white house, he had some interesting immigration comments to say as well on npr this morning. so it certainly highlights the fact that the president not pleased by not believe a wall, and of course he plays a role in this as well, not getting the funding in the budget. he likes to pass the blame, and it appears it was secretary nielsen's turn, wolf. >> pretty awkward. jeff zeleny, thank you very much. former vice president joe biden just a few moments ago weighed in on the mccain comment. he said this. people have wondered when decency would hit rock bottom with this administration. it happened yesterday. john mccain is a genuine hero, a man of valor whose sacrifices for his country are immeasurable. as he fights for his life he deserves better, so much better. given this white house's trail of disrespect toward john and others, this staffer is not the exception to the rule, she is
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the the epitome of it. the question is whose example will it be? is i am certain it will be john's. strong words there. let's bring in chris cilliza and our legal analyst chris cordera. normally even a joke like this would be so inappropriate, the white house would immediately distance themselves and immediately reprimand, if not fire, this individual. >> you're right, wolf. i think two things. one, i think it is important to note that this staffer felt comfortable enough to make the joke. i think that tells you conte contextually this kind of atmosphere that donald trump has set in the white house and around the country. remember, donald trump had a campaign heavy on bullying, political incorrectness that often -- political incorrectness
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is cover for some xenophobic and racist view. you wouldn't even think you could joke about that. number two, this is not a person that i think the president should continue to employ. a don't call for people's fires all that lightly, but these are views you simply cannot express in a semi-public setting. i don't know why the white house continues to not really say anything other than, we respect john mccain and he's an american hero. sure, but that's not the point here. i don't think jeff mentioned this, i don't think we've heard the last of them. sara winders will be asked about this. is this the hill that they want to fight? >> there are a lot of people that were unwilling to work for this white house. i was one of 100 foreign policy and national security people
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that said we were opposed to donald trump's candidacy in part because of his temperament and the way in which he ran the campaign, the type of things that chris is describing. so in some swaways, this is kinf who you're left with. i know there are some people working in the white house because they feel they can do some good, policy-related work. but on the other hand, in some circumstances, you end up with people who not only think like this but feel comfortable to say it in a meeting of white house personnel. my other question is, i saw some reporting that there was maybe some gasps and a couple people even chuckled when she said this. did anybody speak up? did anybody actually say, that's inappropriate, what are you saying? and the fact there wasn't any reaction, what else does that tell us about the people who were present? >> just to add to that, look, and i think this is the
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prototypical sign in this. that is the reaction to violence that left someone dead is many sides. >> people on both sides. >> people on both sides. the president has always seen himself on moral side of the country whether that's race or big, big issues. the, that i am going to -- we're not going. this is right, this is wrong. we can, as reasonable people, agree. donald trump doesn't do that. he often says roy moore is another example. well, roy moore says he may have
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been accused of kissing and groping, but the president said, who really knows? but in this way the add b did of moral leadership is lacking. an at&t ceo expressing regret over hiring michael cohen, paying him $600,000 for access to the president. and stirring the pot on immigration today, arguing those crossing the border lack skills to assimilate. with 5 times more regions
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attorney michael cohen. they paid cohen $660,000 in 2018. those are political consultation fees to help understand where president trump stood on regulatory issues, tax reform and antitrust enforcement. but some are questioning the nature of the relationship. at&t, by the way, is trying to purchase as its parent company time warner. back with us, chris cizzilla and kristin. putting out a statement, our company has been in the headlines for all the wrong reasons these last few days and our reputation has been damaged. there is no other way to say it.
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at&t hiring michael cohen as a political consultant was a big mistake. >> we need to find our voices to be heard by the president-elect. we didn't do that tilling of the soil during the campaign because largely speaking, we assumed hillary clinton would be president. how can we get in? there's michael cohen making his pitch. i'm donald trump's guy, i know him, if you want to go to him you need to come through me. $600,000 is -- i'd love to have that amount of money to match my money, but $600,000 if it can get us in to have the president hear our point of view on issues, it's nothing, so they do it. what they're really apologizing for candidly is that it got bumped out. they did it to gain some level of access they did not currently have to the president and his inner circle. >> carrie?
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>> i think it's important to distinguish one of the potential aspects and what happened. there are a lot of lawyers who make a lot of money doing this kind of work, where they have access to whether it's executive branch or legislative branch officials, and companies may them a lot of money to be able to have influence into decision making. that is legal as long as companies and the lawyers involved and lobbyists involved file the right paperwork and do what they need to on that end, whether it's a domestic company or foreign company which has additional requirements to register. but with respect to michael cohen, if he was doing certain -- first of all, we don't even know if he was doing any work, whether he had anything of value to provide these companies. if he did, if he was improperly influencing the executive branch, again, we don't know that, then there are potential issues of public corruption, whether or not they were paying him to obtain a result. we don't know what the
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communication was between michael cohen and the president or other white house officials as to whether or not he was actually doing any of this work. but he was a person of access, and so the potential legal issues can fall potentially into sort of the public corruptions side of things or there could be technical violations that michael cohen might be on the hook for as far as registering or having represented some of these foreign entities, for example. >> if he didn't register as a foreign agent on the foreign registration act. >> carrie makes a good point. we know about the payments now. they are significant. $1.2 million for insights into the president of the united states? that's from novartis. 600,000 for guidance. these are code words fr of acce. let's call it what it is. we don't know the extent of it. my guess is remember that bob
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mueller talked to at&t about this in november 2017. >> six months ago. >> we're in may 2018. my guess is bob mueller, in those intervening six months, has found out a lot more than we currently know. will we eventually know? yes. but remember, bob mueller knows a lot more about this. >> he knows a lot more about this. and he's the swiss-based pharmaceutical, so if he wanted more, he should have registered as a foreign agent. >> sometimes i see them described as a quote, unquote shell company. if he was providing labels of quality, they do this all the time, set up an entity as a result of tax services. if he wasn't paying, there would
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be an extent of that. the white house chief of staff says they don't integrate well and they don't have skills. more on the chief of staff's very, very controversial labeling of undocumented immigrants to the united states. plus, iran vows to restart nuke enrichment in the wake of president trump withdrawing from the deal. it's just a burst pipe, i could fix it. (laugh) no. with claim rateguard your rates won't go up just beacuase of a claim.
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united states. they're overwhelmingly rural people, and the countries they come from, fourth, fifth, sixth grade educations are the norm. they're coming here for a reason and i sympathize with the reason, but the laws are the laws. >> joining us from capitol hill, she's a democrat on the armed services and judiciary committee. what do you think of kelly's comments? >> talking about the sentiments of undocumented people, as an immigrant myself, people come to this country because they want a better life and they're working with the cultural sector and other sectors where frankly americans are not working, so they are a big part of our economy. so to only call for those with standard backgrounds, et cetera, are a narrow way of not
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understanding how immigrants have helped build our country. >> i want to get to several other points, senator. the confirmation fight is under way right now for the cia director nominee gina haspel. it's clearly heating up. where are you? will you vote to confirm or reject her confirmation? >> i recently reviewed some of the classified material regarding her, and i had concerns about her. after reading these materials, it would be difficult for me to vote for her, so i will not be voting for her. >> another issue i want to get to. the white house press secretary sarah sanders actually related to gina haspel. she tweeted this, there is no one more qualified to be the first woman to lead the cia than 30-plus year cia veteran gina haspel. any democrat who claims to support women's empowerment and our national security but opposes her nomination is a
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total hypocrite. on y you oppose her. what is your reaction to sarah sanders? >> someone who doesn't understand the meaning of moral core, that's rich. women who will not be voting for this nominee, to characterize it as being anti-woman, we care about who is running our cia, what their background is, what their views are regarding torture, so i say this is rich coming from an administration that demonizes women and marginalizes all minority groups. give me a break. >> give me your reaction to white house kelly sadler who has a way to discount senator john mccain's position of not wanting to nominate gina haspel. "he's dying, anyway." what did you think of that when you heard that? >> it was appalling, but i've run out of adjectives to describe the lack of any kind of a moral core from this
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administration. it starts from the top. it was appalling, and senator mccain has provided service to our country for decades, and to be flippant, this is no laughing matter. to frame it in that way i think is indefensible, and i frankly expect the white house to come out and say this is unacceptable even for us. but so far nothing. >> we'll see if she says something, sarah sanders, about this in the briefing coming up in the next hour. your committee chairman, senator chuck grassley of the judiciary committee, he has some advice for any supreme court justices thinking about retiring. listen to what he said. >> are you prepping for supreme court vacancy this summer, senator grassley? >> i hope it's now or within two or three weeks because we've got to get this done before the election. my message to any one of the nine supreme court justices, if
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you're thinking about quitting this year, do it yesterday. >> what did you think of that comment from senator grassley? do you think he was speaking directly to justice anthony kennedy? >> well, whoever he was speaking to, it just goes to the goal, the goal of chuck grassley and mitch mcconnell to pack the courts with the most idiotically oriented judgments who will have lifetime employment in both the supreme court and the other courts. a huge percentage, over 70% of all nominees in the trump administration are either members of the federalist society, which they acknowledge themselves as a conservative organization. either they're members of the federalist society or they have a staff of approval from them. so court packing is going on even as we speak, and therefore, individual rights, voting rights, minority rights, which the constitution should be that document that protects minority
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rights, but apparently this majority is not interested in those kind of justices. i totally disagree with my chairman's perspective. >> before i let you go, i just want to wish all of our viewers best wishes in hawaii. i know you guys are going through some tough periods out there in the big island, but our best wishes to all of you as well. >> the community has come together, so thank you. >> thank you. we hope it's over with at least for now, but we're watching it very, very closely. thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you. coming up, iran threatens to turn tel aviv into dust. this just days after president trump withdraws the united states from the iran nuclear deal, and it wasn't just the nuclear deal that pushed president trump onto the global stage this week. we'll have more on the president's rebranding overseas when we come back. oh yeah, we're good.
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a threat from iran. the leader of friday prayers in tehran saying, quote, we are increasing our missile capability so that israel cannot sleep well. if she gets crazy, we'll turn tel aviv and haifa to dust. that threat coming after an exchange of fire between iranian forces in syria and israeli forces in the golan heights. joining us from new york, the former israeli prime minister aman brock. he wrote a book "fighting for peace." the threats coming from iran, the tensions clearly escalating. you were the defense minister under the current prime
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minister. he says iran is crossing a red line. in your opinion is war coming? >> i wish it's not coming and i hope it's not coming, but its determination will keep moving the determination to block iran from syria very close to our border. as long as they understand the europeans are still in the deal, the eiranians will behave cautiously. they are worried that the president might be looking for the slightest mistake they might make in order to consider moving further, probab further. i believe it will drive them to be more cautious. >> president trump's decision to pull the u.s. out of the iran
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nuclear deal, do you believe that's to blame for the latest escalation in tensions between israel and iran? >> no, it's not. the clash about his deployment began months ago when they exposed our operations, but from two months ago, it surfaced. what happened two days ago was very responsive to previous attacks and we responded to send a clear signal. we are not afraid. we are the strongest power. he can decimate his neighbors but we have vast numbers in between, wolf. >> did president trump make the right decision from your
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perspective, prime minister, in withdrawing from it rthe iran nuclear deal? >> once he made his decision, it's an oddity. it doesn't make sense to discuss the previous oddity. >> a lot of people are wondering, the europeans, for example, france, germany, the u.k. they didn't want him to do it. what is your position? >> i saw it as a bad deal. but once problem problem. we need insurgency which could be treated outside the agreement. in a way the decision to pull out, on one hand, in the short term it creates a kind of cautiousness.
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. i'll argue the next month. what is the sense of agreeing with the president if you can wake up with the next president just cancelling it? >> do you believe it rathe iran were complying with the specific terms of the agreement? the u.k., germany, they were all saying that iran was in full compliance. was it? >> i think the operation with documents and so on, the more you dig into it, you'll not find the slightest evidence of any violation after 2015, and basically, all the information that had been.
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what do you anticipate will on monday when they move the embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem? i know they're bracing for some violent reaction. what do you anticipate? >> first of all, we are all kind of very grateful for the president for making this decision so both sides of political eye welcoming this decision. of course, it alienates the palestinians, probably for no reason, because he does not conclude the possibility that when they hopefully will need somewhere to stay, they will have capital and american embassy as well. . we tried to pro. there was a.
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>> the new book by you is called "fighting for israel: searching for peace." i know oyou've done that your entire life. thank you, prime minister, for joining us. >> thank you. coming up, a subtle shot across the bow from one president to another. details on george bush's warning of isolationism and the current state of america's diplomacy. and live picture coming in from the white house right now where we're expecting to hear from the president. stay with cnn for live coverage. s dna test with its historical records... you could learn you're from ireland donegal, ireland and your ancestor was a fisherman. with blue eyes. just like you. begin your journey at ancestry.com
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the president has often touted america first policies, but he's been front and center in negotiations with north korea and with iran. but some past presidents remain critical of president trump's world view. listen to this. >> the only way for peace was to partnership and engagement. if we are together, nothing is impossible. if we are divided, all will fail. the dangers of isolation loom. the price of greatness is responsibilities. one cannot rise to be in many ways the leading community in the civilized world without being involved in its problems. people of the united states cannot escape world responsibility. >> let's bring in former national security adviser for president obama, tom donlin who
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is joining us. thank you for joining us. what did you think of president bush saying there is danger of isolationism? that seems to be the current view of the administration. >> the trump administration has brought a certain volatility to international affairs, really challenging the core pillars that the world order put together since world war ii based on allies and international institutions, economic relations. there's bayeen a lot of tearing down and it's not clear what's going to replace it. that's been the fundamental challenge here. you have a tearing down that the approach the united states had for several years which, by the way, has brought incredible peril and prosperity. there are some opportunities for president trump, but there is a lot of work here.
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the reaction around the world has been quite negative. we've seen a diminution in supporting the united states around the world. >> but he does have a summit coming up with kim jong-un and the three american detainees have now been freed. >> i think the north korea situation san opportuniis an op him. he was told in the transition by president obama that this would be the biggest challenge he would have. china has been supportive of the pressure campaign. you have these things coming together providing an opportunity. he's got an opportunity with this summit, but there are real challenges, too. my advice would be there needs to be a lot of discipline, preparation, a plan, coordination with allies. be extremely skeptical with anything the north koreans say. what they've been saying about demilitarization is similar to what they've said many times since 1972. it's far more complicated, by
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the way, since tthan the irania situation. >> the president is meeting with kim jong-un june 12 in singapore. what about the president withdrawing from the iranian nuclear deal? >> to me that's the worst decision the united states made since the iraq war. there was a way to go forward here to address each of the issues, which are very important. the ballistic missile threat. the maligned conduct of iran throughout the region. terrorism. and i think the appropriate approach and far better approach would have been to haul iranians to the world and pressuring them to these other things. we're isolated, it's more difficult to address these challenges, we really split very sharply from our allies. particularly in europe i think it was unnecessary.
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we've increased tension in the region and we're seeing that, and i think it makes the north korea negotiations more difficult. >> he says, the president concluding last night in a speech in indiana, that he's moving away from the weakness the obama administration had in global affairs. listen to this. >> they were saying, he's going to get us into a nuclear war. he's going to get us into a nuclear war. and you know what gets you into nuclear wars, and you know what gets you into other wars? weakness! weakness. >> what's your reaction? >> well, part of american strength has been, again, for the past half century and more, has been working with others, having the best military in the world, having the strongest economy in the world. that's what brings us our strength. it's not about rhetoric. i fear that challenging these core pillars what has brought us strength, when you reflect on what did make america great, we're moving away from that in
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some disturbing ways. so i think that the iran situation is an example of this, right, where we kind of pull back and work with other nations where we have a successful effort under way to cap the program in iran. by the way, the criticism of the trump administration which was that it wasn't changing iranian behavior across the board, that wasn't the purpose of the deal. that was an armed control transactional deal that was working and provided a platform on which we could have gone forward. >> very quickly, to remove the embassy in israel, what do you think? >> how is that going to advance what the trump administration said is one of their highest priorities, it doesn't advance middle east peace. there will be some serious challenges as you come to the
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70th anniversary of the founding of israel and moving the embassy at the same time. >> tom donilon, thanks so much for coming in. >> nice to see you. >> any minute now the white house set to respond about the rather crude remark made about john mccain and joe biden said decency just hit rock bottom. plus with the royal wedding just a week away, cnn goes into prince harry and meghan markle's past just ahead of the big day. your brain changes as you get older.
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harry a taste of the front lines. >> as far as i'm concerned, i'm out here as a normal person the ground and not prince harry. it's about as normal as i'm ever going to get. >> i think he realized the seriousness of life, really rose to the responsibilities. >> reporter: but after ten weeks on the ground, his mission is leaked and harry is immediately evacuated. >> he was very angry. to use the words of his private secretary, he was boiling mad. he sort of headed for the gutter. >> reporter: what did that look like? >> he started drinking very heavily. he was fed up with who he was. >> when he came to see me, he sort of sat slumped in the chair and say i can't be like a normal young man but that time in iraq had given him time to be a
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normal young man. and he accepted probably the only way he'd go back it within the anonymity of a helicopter and he'd have to learn to fly a helicopter. >> he is not only a pilot, he is a top gun on his weapons course. >> he got if t on his own. it wasn't because he was a pines. he h -- prince. he had to fight hard for it. it was one of the top apache helicopter pilots. >> reporter: harry returns to afghanistan in 2012. >> i believe his success on that apache aircraft was the making of harry. i think harry, who had spent all his life being second best to his brother, being the spare, suddenly found something that he could do and could do better than anybody else. and that gave him confidence that he had never, ever had before.
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>> >> allison camerota will be in london for the festivities. just learned a little bitprin a prince harry's past. but what about meghan? she's had her own struggles. >> he has. it could appear she had a charmed life. she was the daughter of divorce, her parents divorced when she was very young. she herself is divorced. she had a first marriage that only lasted a couple of years, and she's been quite candid about how challenging it was to grow up bi-racial and she said she never knew where she fit in and which box to check and that was a challenge in hollywood and beyond. we talked to all sorts of people who knew her when, back in her
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childhood and her professional career. everyone will no more about her tomorrow night. >> here's the key equestion. fascinateor, no fascinateor. who will you be wearing? >> wolf, you're a slave to fashion. yes, fascinateor of course. that's half the fun. i'm giving you a sneak preview of the fascinateor that was specially made for moi. this is from suzanne's cocoacot in new york city. you can see this bow -- >> does it obstruct your vision a little bit? >> a little bit it does but i think it's worth it, don't you? >> definitely. i think it looks great. >> i'm not going to wear it the whole time. that might be too much
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fabulousness. >> you could still the show over there. >> that's kind. i'm not sure meghan markle is in any danger but i'm going to work on this and you'll see this matching my fabulous raspberry dress. >> can't wait. the cnn special "a royal match" tomorrow night 8 p.m. eastern and pacific only here on cnn. we're standing by for multiple live events any minute now. the white house will face reporters after one of president trump's aides made a rather crude remark about senator john mccain. state live coverage continues right now. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> hi there, i'm brianna keilar in for brooke baldwin. the president will speak about his plans to