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messaging. ncht while everybody is obsessing over north korea, iran and stormy daniels, the president's long term legacy is being cemented on something else. as he names young conservative judges in courts around the country at a record pace. a black graduate student another yale falls asleep on a dorm couch and the next thing she knows, if police are questioning her. why are white americans so quick to call the cops on their black neighbors. when my car hit yet ood pothole and had to go to the shop, i hand to wonder where is that trillion dollar infrastructure bill we were promised. to get our road fixed, are we going to have to emulate the british. john kelly gave a rare interview this week which aired yesterday on npr. the former general is rarely

seen on the sunday morning round table circuit. when he speak, his words receive particularly scrutiny. these made headlines. kelly's assessment of those who move illegally into the united states noted they are not bad people but that they don't have skills. when asked about whether pulling out of iran nuclear deal harms relations with the u.s. ally, kelly said he didn't think so given it was quote a horrible deal. then there was this. when he asked he thought the russian probe was hanging over the white house, kelly said this. >> it may not be cloud but the president is world leaders come in. first couple of minutes might revolve around that kind of thing. >> you have to think that quote didn't play so well with the boss.

a reference to netanyahu. later when questioned by cnn, kelly said distracted was a better word choice than embarrassed and he repeated the president's mantra that the probe is a witch hunt. >> in an npr interview you said the president was embarrassed. >> i corrected it and said distracted. it's untrue. it's a witch hunt. it's a distraction. >> the marine band playing in the background. whether the proper word choice is embarrassment or distraction. my hunch is a little of both. kelly's appraisal raising an interesting question as to how this is playing in the eyes op our allies in time of volatility. we have a shadow war between israel and iran now percolating to the surface.

a continued instability with russia itself. u.s. stealth bombers intercepted off the coast of alaska yesterday. embarrassment or distraction. go and vote this hour. i have the perfect person to ask. joining me now is general michael hayden. former director of the nsa and cia. what's the global impact of mule -- mueller probe? >> number one, it really is a distraction for the people in the white house. i've worked in the white house. it's full-time day work. now you've got a president who seemingly wants to stir things up on his own whether it's personnel or policy and then you've got this over hang, is

the word i would have used instead of john kelly's embarrassment. this over hang of the russian investigation. it has the eat into the workday. we're just a far less efficient government than we would otherwise be. now, shift the gaze to overseas and what our allies are thinking. i think they have to shape their policy that this is the president. they need to deal with this president. with this administration but michael, i could just imagine the briefing paper that prime ministers get, chancellors get before they meet with the president. in big bold letters is do not mention and then they'll give the status of the investigation and what the president is currently saying about it. it eats up the energies of our allies as well when we should be fully focused on our dialogue. >> in new book you say that donald trump is as much the effect as the cause of a post-truth world.

what is a post-truth world? >> i kind of describe a three layer cake. the first layer isn't the administration. it's us. it's our society moving into this post truth culture. a culture where we don't, as often use evidence and data to base our decisions. now rely on emotion, preference, feeling, grievance, loyalty, tribe. the president saw that as a candidate. i think he exploited it as a candidate. i think he worsens it by some of the things he does and a lot of things he says as president and then just to make it even more complicated, you've got the russians coming in over the top exploiting a and b that i've just described. >> you say in the book that you yourself were not fan of the iranian nuclear agreement, not fan of the jcpoa. is the president acting on the

same time of concerns held by general michael hayden or do you think he's acting on an emotion fueled by his distaste for all things obama? >> you know, sadly i concluded it's b and not a. let me give you three sentences that mike hayden doesn't just believe but the american intelligence has been telling the president. number one, iran is not breaking the deal. there's been no significant breaches. no material breaches of the agreement. number two, iran is further away from a weapon with this deal than they would be without it. number three, we know more about the iranian program. i don't think there was any agency or department of government waving their arms to the president saying mr. president, we've got a walk. this was the president. i do think it was based on his

campaign language, his instincts and frankly his not being his predecessor. >> rocket man, calm before the storm, you'll find out. that type of word choice caused you to be concerned we were driven to war. the news went to press before good news occurred. did you give him not enough credit when you wrote the book? >> i gave him credit for some things. i thought he increased our tolerance for risk in northeast asia. i give him great credit for economic sanctions, diplomatic isolation, nudging the chinese in a more forward leaning position. military demonstrations, aircraft carriers, b-1 bombers, b-2 womanes ebombers.

the rhetoric was unnecessary and my great fear is it reduced the margin for error last summer and fall during a critical period. we got through it. that's like saying we drove through the last nine stop signs. it's still not a good idea to drive through the tenth. >> give me one thing you learned in your iron city fueled listening sessions? >> these are really good people. they are the people who fight america's wars. the people go to work. they pay their taxes. they go to the pta. they make sure their kids study and they feel as if no one is paying attention to them. these are my people, michael. you referring to my going back to my hometown and asking a bunch of trump voters. it kind of began with what are you guys thinking. they told me. it was a learning experience. >> by the way, unfair there for them to be castigated as a whole

lot of deplorabledeplorables. >> my goodness, they rally to the colors when the nation needs them. >> good to have you here. i enjoyed the book. >> thank you. >> i'll read responses throughout the course of the program. kathr kathryn, what have you got? embarrassing for mueller, fbi, hillary, democrats and the media and everyone pushing the false collusion narrative. like everybody, i wanted it to be wrapped up as quick as possible. it's part of briefing when world leaders sit down with our president and at a minimum it has to be a distraction. one more if i have time. embarrassment. trump is always distracted by everything but his job. vp. i don't think that's mike pence. i don't think that's mike pence who just sent that in. cast ballot at my website.

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earlier this year the democrats looked poised to trouns republicans. in the latest cnn poll the democrats advantage dipped from 16 points in february to 6 points in march to just three points now. 57% said the country is moving in the right direction and there's a debate a foot whether the drum beat for impeachment is helping our hurting the cause. he's been raising massive amounts of cash, more than any other democrat candidate in the country. look at this recent pro-trump

billboard posted in m.d. libera liberals, you better get your gun ifs you try to impeach president trump. house intelligence member warned don't take the bait on impeachment. he advices the democrats focus on the economy, family and return to basic decency. the question is that enough of a plan to prevail in joining me the chair of the dnc, tom perez. i always appreciated whn you were labor secretary. you cam on my sirius xm radio program to announce the new unemployment figures. i have to mention you would have loved an unemployment figure as a labor secretary. >> when barack obama made those courageous investments in future. i'm glad to see they continue to pay off by there's so much more unfinished business here. the reason that i saw your polls

and polls ebb and flow but wasn't ebbed and flow was democratic inthenthusiasm. we flipped over 40 seats in various races and we're winning because we're fielding great candidates. we're organizing every year and we're focusing on the issues that people care about. wages continue to remain flat. we're focused on health care because it's a right for all and not a impressiprivilege for a f. we're focused on making sure that people have access to quality education whether it's in oklahoma and west virginia, ad az and we're winning because we've been able to show that the democrats are fighting for public education in our future. the republicans are not.

focus like a laser. continue this momentum. in 2010 we got our butts kicked because the republican enthu enthusiasm was far more than the democratic. the tables are turned. the last time we won the new jersey and virginia gubernatorial elections in the same year was 2005. past is never prologue but we continue to make progress. >> i'm glad you bring up passion and enthusiasm. i want to make reference to that crazy billboard that i showed from maryland. if your house and senate candidates say the i word, will they not drive passion on the republican side of the ballot. in other words, do you want them talking about that issue or not? >> listen, the reason that there are some talk about that issue is because we have the most dangerous president in american history. we've seen so many things happen that should never happen in the united states of america. what we've been focusing on and

why we've been winning is we're focusing on like connor lamb did in pennsylvania. he focused on health care, pensions, the right form a un n union. that's why he won. we won in virginia, new jersey because we focused on health care and the economy. we've been flipping seats in oklahoma. four victories in oklahoma. we published on public education. we've been organizing everywhere. people are so energized. that's how we're winning. my job is to help elect democrats. we've been winning and we'll continue to win by focusing on these issues that people care about most. >> mr. secretary, just yesterday i saw the cook political report saying the anti-trump wave might turn tout be a ripple. do you deny that something has changed in the data where the

democratic prospects seem to have dimmed? are you looking at the same information we are? >> polls will ebb and flow between now and the election. what hasn't ebbed and flowed has been the democratic enthusiasm and our victories. you look last month in wisconsin, there was a supreme court race and we were proud to have invested early in that race in organizing. who would have thought that the candidate for that race would have won. she's not only won but won by 1 11.5 points. she won in green bay. she did fantastically in milwaukee. she held her own across the state. it was a referendum on scott walker. he should be quaking in his boots. what hasn't ebbed and flowed has been the democratic success. you look at arizona. we should have lost that seat by

20 points or 25 points in a normal year. we're investing and organizing. we're investing early. we have candidates like doug jones last year. he didn't want to fight the culture wars. he wanted to improve the quality of life. >> i think you're good. i think you've gotten in 20 names of your candidates so far. i have a final question for you. i heard the point that you made about wages. i understand it. it's a legitimate point. but simplistically is it fair to say you need to hope that james carville is wrong in 2018? this is not a year where it's about the economy, stupid, you need it to be more about the distraction and noise and other issues and not the financial picture.

>> there's so many people i meet across this country that are still suffering. people who want access to health care and they know who is fighting for them and they know who is not. people in pennsylvania, the coal miners who are concerned about their pension security. the republicans weren't helping them and the democrats are. people who want to make sure their kids are well educated. in oklahoma, kids go to school four days a week in many jurisdictions. same thing in kst ansas. that's why we're running competitive races in places like kansas, oklahoma. places you never would have imagined in the past. we're organizing everywhere. we returned to the 50-state party that we should have always been. when we focus on these bread and butter issues, that's why we're winning. when we elect more democrats we can help dreamers finally. we have a lot more work to do but i'd rather be the democrats. >> thanks for coming back.

i appreciate it. >> always a pleasure. >> what are your thoughts? tweet me. go to my facebook page opinion i'll read more during the course of the program. i told my republican hubby the democrats have no message and i believe the dems won't win back both houses. they need something other than impeach and win. that talk causes many people to say hey, it's nothing but an effort to overturn the result of a legitimate election. given 3.9% unploim and some of the attributes that the president can point to, north korea coming to the table. they're going to be driven in their passion. that's why it's a touchy thing. mentioning the i word may drive the democrat base but it might drive the republican base more. up ahead, the real trump revolution is taking place far from the headlines about nukes

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cares much or knows much about an interpretist and on original itself judge. they would tolerate his behavior, his conduct, all these things that would normally be unacceptable to them in exchange for him giving them more, younger, more conservative federal judges than any president in history. he's doing this at a breakneck speed. by tend of this week, we'll have 21 appellate court junls confirm. by comparison president obama had only gotten seven judges on the apal let court. these judges are very conservative. they are very young and coming in record numbers. people who look at the polling data and don't understand why it's between 80 and 85.

2 gop is getting what they most wanted. >> that's right. it's also worth remembering what they're getting is for decades to come. some of these things that trump has done if you don't like them, hopefully democrats will take back the white house, take back the congress. the judges are there forever. they are eight years younger than the people president obama put on the abeppellate court. some of the judges will be sitting there in 2030, 2040, 2050. that's ha makes it such a powerful long term issue. >> in other words, when they are making these sleelection, if you're 50 plus, you're probably too old for the trump administration to be seriously

considered for a district court judgeship. >> particularly for the courts of appeal. we talk about the supreme court. 95% of all cases in the federal courts get solved at the courts of appeal. the avenuag averageage of a tru is 46 years old. they are really picking far right judges who will be there for decades to come. >> does this issue, ron, stay beneath the radar screen if, in fact, there should be a supreme court vacancy between now and the midterm? >> i think a supreme court vacancy will escalate this issue. that's something people identify with. in the last time we had, if justice kennedy would retire and the balance of the supreme court on issues like abortion and marriage equality and obama care

was really back in play, i think we would have major national issue around that and a lot of discussion, a lot of politics around that. if you noted, it's these lower court nominations that don't get much attention that really have tremendous long term implicati n implicatio implications. >> thank you so much for being here. >> thanks for having me. nc let's see what you're saying on my twitter and facebook pages. this is a huge issue. i leave that debate to all of you but i wanted to shine a spotlight on it because as ron well knows, this is something off the front page of the newspapers akroscross the count. we're caught up in the whole stormy, michael cohen business. this will be with us for the next 40 years because they are filling those slots with young, conservatives and as much

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it's final times on college campuses and it's pretty typical to fall asleep in a dorm room. when a black yale student snoozed, a white student called police who showed up and interrogated her. the black student posted two videos of the encounter to facebook where they went viral and drew thousands of comments. this is part of an ongoing national problem that we keep seeing more and more kpampexamp of. police being called by white people reporting mundane incidents.

a black former white house employee who moved into a building in harlem and a neighbor called cops about him being in his own building. three missouri teens shopping for prom clothes who were wrongly charged with shoplifting. the new york times sum rimarize these cases when white people call the police on black people. half of african-americans said they personally experienced racial discrimination in police interactions. as the yale student said, i deserve to be here. what's to be done? joining me now is cornell brooks, the former president of the naacp. currently a visiting professor at boston university. how do you apportion blame for this yale incident? >> we have to be very clear. the blame falls squarely on the white graduate student because when you use blue uniforms to

police presumely white spaces to maintain white privilege, this is not only a moral offense, it's potentially a crime. in other words, when you knowingly call the police to use them to harass a fellow student, it appears that she has called the police previously on african-american students. it appears from her interaction that she knew that sleeping in a common area of a dorm was not a crime. what we have here is discrimination by cop. it is white graduate students responsibility for this whole entire mess and yale has responded. i think in a very sensitive way. they called that student into account. yes, the blame falls on the white graduate student.

>> that's actually my next question. i want to put on the screen the statement issued by the yale police chief that says this. they informed the caller the student had been in the common room, was an authorize resident and had every right to be there. they explained this was not a police matter and reporting the incident to the dean of graduate school of arts and sciences. should the white student be rep ri mandsed? >> yes. >> think about this. we should not be using our police officers to engage in discrimination in public accommodations or accommodation on university campuses. we have a student calling the police for something she knows is not a crime. she's essentially trying to use the police to affectuate her personal preferences into segregated white space. yes, she should be reprimanded.

we think to think about whether or not she should be charged for filing a false report. where we have an african-american finals doing finals, during a stressful period on the college campus. being subjected to a high race tax on emotional toll being imposed on her because of the color of her skin. she's a young african-american sko lcholar which is to study a hard as you can. >> i can't argue with anything you said. this case appears inexkuszable. i would love to interview the white woman to find out what was going on in her head. i do worry in a climate of see something, say something that a person really does see something that is noteworthy and now says, i better not call the police because i might be perceived as racist. you get the final word. >> yes, i understand that when

you see something, you should say something. if you see racial stereotypes and you believe a person skin tone makes them a suspect, then rather than say anything to the police, you need to have a conversation with your on c conscience. that's not being vigilant in terms of terrorism or vigilant against crime. >> cornell, commencement speaker at the kline school of law. >> i'm looking forward to it. >> let's check in on your tweets and facebook comments. what do we got? i wish i had more time for social media. napping while black. tell me what you really think was concerned, she could call an r.a. or campus security or just wake her up. woman should be fined for

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huge costs of not fixing it. it's three years later and despite the occasional press release, things have only gotten worse. i personally hit three massive potholes that did severe damage to my car and e ib rum. a study found they send flat tire call soars 34%. in d.c., they've got an annual event called pothole palooza that's filled in 23,000 poll hoeting. prescription l a estimates that it costs u.s. drivers about 3 billion a year. on average, american drivers report paying $300 annually. in the american society of civil engineers 2017 report card, our roads got a d. i think that's generous. surely those responsible for maintaining america's roads also drive on them. so while aren't they moving more quickly to fix them. we need a steve jobs of asphalt.

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fixing them expeditiously. he may be the type of hero that we need right now. still to come. your best and worst tweeting and facebook comments. like this one. infrastructure more important than stupid wall. amen. i agree. which more accurately summarizes the impact of the russian probe, embarrassment or distraction? go vote. ♪[upbeat music] ♪now i'm gonna tell my momma ♪that i'm a traveller ♪i'm gonna follow the sun♪

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zblncht so how did you answer the survey question? can which more accurately summarizes the impact of the russian probe? embarrassment or distraction? survey says 9,471 votes cast. thank you for that. 57% say embarrassment. distraction, 43%. hey, not the blowout that some might have expecteded. here's some of what you thought during the course of the program. what do we have? not much time, i don't know. loved hearing the marine band playing just the two of us while john kelly spoke about real donald trump trump. that could be their theme song. i thought it was the theme song for jeff zellany and john kelly. but we're on the same wavelength. you can catch up with us anytime at cnn.go and on demand. next saturday, cnn will be covering the royal wedding and i will be delivering a

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