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and yes, they accept the intelligence community assessment that meddling was designed to hurt clinton and help trump. thanks for joining us on "inside politics" today. see you back here tomorrow. our coverage continues with "wolf" starting right now. have a great day. hello, i'm wolf blitzer. it's 1:00 p.m. here in washington. 8:00 p.m. in yemen. 2:00 a.m. thursday in pyongyang. wherever you're watching from around the world, thank you very much for joining us. is the nuclear summit on the verge of collapse? after months of cooperation, north korea threatening to cancel its meeting with president trump over american demands. plus, breaking today. senate investigators releasing testimony from some of the key players inside that trump tower meeting, including the president's son. what donald trump, jr. admits and what he says about his father's involvement. all that coming up. up first, can the north korea summit be salvaged?
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moments ago, president trump said, we'll have to wait and see. [ overlapping speakers ] >> can the korean summit be salvaged? >> we'll have to see. we haven't seen anything, we haven't heard anything. we will see what happens. we'll see what happens, we'll see. time will tell. >> time will tell, the president says. the fate of the historic face-to-face meeting between president trump and the north korean leader kim jong-un is in jeopardy. north korea's threatening to cancel the summit scheduled for june 12th in singapore. jeff, how is the administration responding to the threat, the threat to cancel this meeting? >> reporter: good afternoon, wolf. you could hear the president there measuring his words very carefully, not saying anything
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too intentionally to provoke kim jong-un or not saying anything to disrupt the potential disruption of this summit. some of the questions were hard to hear there in the oval office a short time ago, because white house aides were screaming at reporters to leave the oval office. but the president was asked directly, is kim bluffing? he said, time will tell. saying we'll see to everything else. but he was asked at the end of that if he have is going to insist on a complete denuclearization of the korean pen peninsula. north korea saying they will not agree to that, but the reality is, about 12 hours into this confusion, it's unclear if it's a bluff or not. but sarah sanders talked to reporters and she said the plan for the summit is still on. >> this is something that we fully expected. the president is very ready for
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tough negotiations, and if they want to meet, we'll be ready. if they don't, that's okay, too. we'll continue with the campaign of maximum pressure, if that's the case. but if they want to meet, the president will be ready, and we will be prepared. if not, that's okay. >> reporter: so it's clear the white house is trying to be pretty calm and again measured about this. but this was jarring, despite what the press secretary said there, that they were not caught off guard. in fact, the white house was caught off guard. other administration officials said in fact sarah sanders said herself yesterday, the pentagon was, the state department was, as well. so the u.s. is still working through all of this. the key point person in this all will be the secretary of state mike pompeo. he has sat down face to face with kim jong-un twice now in recent weeks. so he holds the key to what could be this future summit. time is running short here, less than a month to that scheduled
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summit on june 12th. wolf? >> jeff, thank you. jeff zeleny at the white house. this dramatic shift in zone from north korea comes after weeks of diplomatic overtures by both sides. for more, i'm joined by ivan watson, who joins us from seoul, south korea right now. ivan, north korea abruptly postpones these talks that was supposed to happen today with south korea. now it's threatening to call off the summit with the u.s. president. what's behind all of this? >> reporter: hard to tell, because as you mentioned, north korea had been engaged for months this charm offensive, and now we've suddenly got whiplash as it does a 180 in its tone with harsh criticism. last month, north korea didn't have anything to say about joint military exercises between u.s. and south korea. and now there are these air defense exercises, conducted annually, and suddenly, they have started to really bother
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north korea, which has accused the u.s. of bringing in nuclear strategic assets to the region. and that was the grounds that he used to cancel the high level talks with south korea. that is part of what it is criticizing the trump administration for. some of its criticism also directly lobbed against john bolton, the national security adviser, accusing him of basically insulting north korea, calling him repugnant because he talked about using the libyan model of nuclear disarmament for north korea, which considers itself far more advanced than libya was. is this brinksmanship? a negotiating tactic? or is north korea really suddenly kind of pulling out of what was a warming of relations between it and its traditional rivals, the u.s. and south korea? hard to tell at this point. >> certainly is very, very sensitive moment indeed. ivan watson in seoul, thank you
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very much. foreign policy analysts say the threat by north korea is a familiar ploy, raise expectations, threaten to cancel talks and push for more concessions. sam, the summit could still happen. this is certainly mott the first time hopes of a breakthrough with north korea have run into trouble. walk us through some of the past efforts. >> reporter: thanks, wolf. to quote sarah sanders, we should expect a cycle of north korean prove case and violation. in 1994, we signed the agreed framework with north korea after they engineered a crisis. north korea announced 18 months before sign thing agreement they were withdrawing from the nuclear nonproliferation treaty. under this agreement, we did get our first freeze with north korea. they agreed to freeze construction and operation of nuclear reactors in exchange of some concessions from us.
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but we got intelligence that they were pursuing uranium enrichment capacity and launched missiles. so this deal was violated by the north koreans. >> president bush labeled north korea as that axis of evil. how did he treat the north koreans during his administration? >> reporter: after the agreed framework failed, we launched into several rounds of negotiations with the so-called six parties. the united states, china, north and south korea, russia and japan. and there was some highs and lows throughout this period. we had some breakthroughing. -- break thrust. in 2005, the north koreans agreed to rejoin the nonproliferation treaty. we talked about some concessions, food aid, and president bush removed north korea from the satate sponsor o terrorism act.
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but the north koreans launched missiles and conducted a nuclear test, which put talks on ice. >> when president obama came into office, given that backdrop, samantha, did he learn he issons during the eight years of the obama administration? >> reporter: president obama did come into office with a different view. his view was more engagement was necessary and he launched a series of secret negotiations. and kim jong-un's father died in late december of 2011. and on february 29th, 2012, we announced the leap day accord, which the north koreans agreed to freeze missile tests in exchange from statements of the united states and some food aid. but days later, they announced they were sending a satellite into space, using ballistic missile technology, which we said violated their international responsibilities.
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>> samantha, thank you very much for that analysis. there's more breaking news right now. the u.s. senate intelligence committee has just released its report on russian interference in the 2016 presidential elections here in the united states and the assessment from the u.s. intelligence community, richard burr says this, and remember, he's a republican, and i'm quoting him now. there is no doubt russia undertook an unprecedented effort to interfere with our 2016 elections. senator mark warner, the vice chairman of the intelligence committee, said the interference was ordered by president putin in order to help donald trump. that's the conclusion of the senate intelligence committee. joining us now with capitol hill, congressman gregory meeks. so congressman, thanks for joining us. what do you think that conclusion, are you surprised that the democrats and the republican majority on the senate intelligence committee
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have now reached the same conclusion? >> i think that's the way it should be, wolf. you review the evidence, and all of the facts and our intelligence community. you come up with what the results are. i think the results are what we suspected all along, as indicated by our intelligence agencies that russia did, in fact, get involved in the election with the intent on helping donald trump. and so it is important for that to be known so that we can make sure that in any future election that we won't allow anyone to get involved with our democracy and our elections. i think that it was important that it be bipartisan. unlike unfortunately that seems to be taking place on the house side. so i think it's a good decision and outcome. but we have to work together to protect the integrity of our democracy and our political process. >> we were just showing our
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viewers live pictures of the president saying good buy to the uzbek leader. they had some meetings in the oval office. the president didn't answer reporter's questions. normally the reporters are shouting questions. there's a lot going on right now, congressman. i know the white house isn't going to be pleased with this conclusion from the senate intelligence committee bipartisan agreement that russia interfered in the u.s. presidential election, bipartisan agreement that they interfered in order to help donald trump and to hurt hillary clinton. this was the conclusion of the u.s. intelligence committee -- community i should say in january of last year, january of last year before the president was sworn into office on inauguration day. so they're not going to be very happy with this conclusion. as you correctly point out, very different from what we heard from the republican majority of the house intelligence committee.
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let's go to north korea right now, while i have you, congressman. you're on the foreign affairs committee. would you be more surprised if the summit between the president and kim jong-un happens or if it falls apart? >> you know what? i always thought that there was going to be -- this is difficult stuff, wolf. the president likes to portray it as though it's elementary, simple, that he can do something that no one else did. it's always difficult. and i never heard, and i said it over and over again, what does the north koreans expect to get out of this agreement? so i was hoping that we would understand what the administration's plan was, what the back and forth was. generally in the past, i've had that opportunity being on the committee, we would have access to certain information, which we don't have access to now, so that we would not be engaged in a reality tv show with the two sides there, with no real plan and not understanding what was being negotiated. so i don't think anyone really
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knows what's taking place at this point, because of the erratic or lack of a real policy that the president has given, whether it's in the kree he kor any place else. generally, you have a real policy that's articulated that our allies and everyone else can understand. with this administration, there is no policy, there's no plan. there's no plan a or b. you can talk about north korea, you can talk about iran, you can talk about climate. there's no plan that this president or policy of this president seems to be following. >> congressman gregory meeks, thanks for joining us. >> good to be with you. we're following more breaking news. a never before seen details oh of that infamous trump tower meeting before the u.s. presidential election. when the president's son was promised dirt on hillary clinton. plus, scott pruitt's questionable behavior has pushed him back into the hotseat on
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we now know what donald trump, jr. and several key players of the russia investigation told senate investigators about president trump's 2016 campaign, and the now infamous trump tower meeting in new york. just a few hours ago, the committee released thousands of pages of testimony, e-mails, and texts from a number of people who were at that june 2016 meeting. everyone from donald trump, jr. to music producer rob goldstone, to others. our reporters have been honing in on key details. let's bring them in right now. joining us, sarah murray, evan
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perez, and also here to help us understand legal implications, prosecutor joseph moreno. thank you very much. evan, you've gone through these documents. what stands out to you? >> you remember, this is a meet bring the russians were promising dirt on hillary clinton to members of the trump campaign. one part of a conversation with donald trump, jr., which he says, you know, i was interested in listening to information on hillary clinton. yes, he says. information that came potentially from the russian government. donald trump, jr., said again, i have no way of assess bring it came from, but i was willing to listen. the context is in the e-mail, that introduced this meeting, donald trump, jr. was told that this information would be coming from the russian government and the support for the trump campaign. here's another bit of testimony from rob goldstone who helped broker this meeting. he says after the meeting, the
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question came, did you report back to emin and aras about the meeting? he said, emin immediately. he said, i just sat in a meeting about adoption. emin and aras are property developers in russia, urging this meeting to be set up with donald trump, jr. here's another bit of the testimony released from donald trump, jr. he said, how does the meeting conclude? the question goes, how did the meeting conclude? donald trump, jr. says we went our separate ways and rob goldstone came up and apologized. the undercurrent of all this, the testimony that was released today is that they came away disappointed. they were very upset that they seemed to have wasted their time. paul manafort, the chairman of the campaign was there. jared kushner, the president's son-in-law, they both apparently were very bored.
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jared kushner was visibly angry. they came here thinking they were going to get incriminating information from the hillary clinton campaign. they ended up empty handed. >> it's a fair point, an unknown person asking about the meeting, he was one of the russians involved, the person writes, how was the meeting with trump people, what happened? he responds, and i'm quoting here, meeting was boring, the mugs russians did not have any bad info on hillary. so what is mueller's take away? >> there's a lot of information here, most of it not flattering to the trump campaign. but does it move the needle illegally? it's not illegal to obtain opposition research. it's illegal to obtain opposition research with a quid pro quo with a foreign country. my take away, we have confirmed a lot of what we knew, the
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special counsel most likely knows more. we don't know what we don't know. so whether or not the special counsel can get us from a to z and fill in the gaps with what came before and after this meeting, that's yet to be determined. >> you know, sarah, the reaction from donald trump, jr. to the release of all of these transcript, what has he been saying? >> of course, they've known for a while these transcripts would be released. he says, i appreciate the opportunity to have assisted the judiciary committee in its inquiry. the public can see i asked every question asked and was forthright with the committee. he thanks the members of the committee, but there are some democrats who disfree that he was as forthright as he's claiming. >> there was some misleading statements coming in from donald trump, jr., right? >> that's right, wolf. this meeting, of course, occurred in june of 2016. we learned about it last july
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when "the new york times" published a story about it. if you remember at the time, the president and the white house and donald trump, jr. were giving all kinds of different answers as to what exactly happened and whether the president knew about this. you take a look at some of the testimony from donald trump, jr., which he says the question came to him, to the best of your knowledge, did the president provide any edits to the statement or other input? trump, jr. says he may have commented through hope hicks, who is the president's assistant obviously. and do you know if his comments provided through hope hicks were incorporated into the final statements? he says, i believe some may have been. but this is an effort through lots of people, mostly counsel. she asked if i wanted to speak to him and i chose not to because i did not want to bring him into something he had nothing to do with. there's a lot that you can do with this, the sort of lawyerly statements and answers from donald trump, jr. you can drive a truck through
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the gaping holes that he leaves here. he's making sure he mentions that the conversations are happening between lawyers to try to implicate attorney-client privilege. and he's signaling that he didn't talk to the president, although he doesn't say that directly. so we have previously seen reporting that indicates the president played a great deal or big role in editing those statements that were issued by donald trump, jr. >> the republican chairman of the judiciary committee says he's glad these documents were released. listen to this. >> the public's business ought to be public. what we have done so far in a lot of cases, the public has a right to know, a and the public can go through these 2,000 pages and draw their own conclusions. they don't have to have it deciphered by members of congress. >> what are the democrats
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saying? >> the democrats have a slightly more critical take on this. dianne feinstein, top democrat on that committee, said the june 9, 2016 meeting is one piece of a much larger puzzle and confirms the trump campaign was willing to accept russia's assistance. of course, it does seem from this misleading statement that evan was just talking about, that they did try to conceal why this meeting initially came about, even if they didn't get the dirt on hillary clinton they were hoping for. in terms of whether they tried to conceal it at the outset, rob goldstone told the committee he checked into trump tower on facebook, so he said he did not believe it to be a secret meeting. >> you mentioned nothing illegal about presidential campaigns seeking opposition research about their opponents. although you suggested it could be illegal if they were getting illegal opposition from a foreign government. explain that.
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>> you can't accept money from a foreign country into a u.s. presidential campaign. the extension would be you can't accept other assistance. now it would be a case to be built on. a prosecutor would have to put this case together, and campaign finance prosecutions can be difficult. so it's not a slam dunk. but it's enough to form a case. it's troublesome. and what's really frustrating is how many of these injuries are self-inflicted. the meeting happened. this ham handed way of how it's been explained in e-mails and public statements by the president, that's what is so frustrating and certainly what put the spotlight on this, in the special counsel's eyes. if he wasn't going to look at it originally, he's going to now because of all the attention. >> we know that the special counsel didn't know about the meeting until this came out in the public, and then he subsequently requested the information from the campaign. >> this is a frustration shared by campaign operatives across
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town who look at these meetings and say, anyone who has any experience in political campaigns has gotten overtures from foreign governments offering assistance and you send that to the fbi. you don't respond and engage. when you see something like donald trump, jr., who was a novice in politics, engaging like that has political operatives groaning every time this letter reemerges. >> paul manafort was in that meeting, and he has 30, 40 years of political experience. he should have known better and reported that. all right, guys, thank you very much. good discussion. we're following more breaking news. president trump's financial disclosure statement is now out. we're learning new details on the payment to michael cohen, his long-time personal lawyer, money that served as hush money to stormy daniels. we have details. that's next. this is your wake-up call. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis,
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we're following breaking news and following the financial disclosure form that president trump has just submitted to the office of government ethics. let's get right to our national political reporter who has been going through the statement. m.j., there's a reference to the payment that president trump made to his long-time personal lawyer and fixer michael cohen. tell us about that. >> reporter: that's right, wolf. we are still poring through these documents, but this is the key piece of information that we have been waiting for in the disclosure of this financial disclosure form today. and there is language in there that specifically addresses the payment that donald trump made to his personal lawyer, michael cohen. this, of course, has been of such interest to us because we know that michael cohen paid stormy daniels $130,000 to keep her quiet about her alleged
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affair with donald trump. earlier this month, rudy giuliani disclosed unexpectedly that president trump himself had paid back michael cohen. so here's the key language in the document that we're looking at right now. if you look at the top of the document, the oge says it concluded that the information related to the payment made by mr. cohen is required to be reported and the information provided meets the disclosure requirement for reportable liability. breaking that down in plain english, this is the kind of payment that trump made to mr. cohen that should have been reported. if you look further into the document where this is essentially the trump camp addressing this, they say they basically disagree, that they do not see this as a reportable liability. but in the interest of transparency, they're going to do it any way. so what the language here says is that donald trump's attorney michael cohen sought reimbursement of expenses and that mr. trump fully reimbursed
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mr. cohen in 2017. now, they say that the range of this payment was somewhere between $100,000 and $250,000. so not exactly saying what the amount was. but that would actually make sense if, as we know, cohen used $130,000 of his own money to make this payment to stormy daniels. i just want to raise one quick thing. when rudy giuliani made this news earlier in the month, he also said that these were made as monthly installments of $35,000, and that he actually paid far more than $130,000 to cohen, somewhere between $460,000 and $470,000. so i think the next question for rudy giuliani is what about the rest of this payment that you had mentioned? because, again, the amount listed in this financial disclosure form is between $100,000 and $250,000, wolf. >> and we know $130,000 went
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from michael cohen to stormy daniels, part of that hush money agreement only a few days before the presidential election. i know you're still going through the documents. m.j., thank you very much. other important news we're following. has president trump already caved to one of china's demands? according to "the washington post," he has. the newspaper says it's obtained a list of demands from the chinese government ahead of the trade talks with the u.s. and at least one demand involves zte, that's the chinese phone company the president said he wanted to help. the president is pushing back on this report, tweeting among other things, "we have not seen china's demands yet." >> joining us now, the reporter that broke this story, josh
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rogen. josh, thank you very much for joining us. he says "the washington post" and cnn have typically written false stories about our trade negotiations with china. there was nothing false about your story. >> i have the list of demands. i have confirmed with trump administration firms that they have received this of demands. but commerce secretary wilbur ross speaking yesterday, and i quote, before landing in china, we sent them a list of our needs and they responded with a similarly detailed but as you can imagine quite different list of their proposals. the gap remains wide. so this list exists. it was passed to the american side during their trip to beijing. maybe the president didn't see it. maybe he's denying that he saw it. hard to know exactly what he meant. but the point here is that the gap between the united states and the chinese government with this growing trade dispute is very, very wide. and that's what they're negotiating right now. >> and tell us why the president
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is all of a sudden the last few days so interested in helping create jobs in china for zte, this telecom company. >> the chinese government, in advance of these talks, pressured trump to give something publicly on zte to have the talks continue. and so he tweeted, let's return jobs to china and help zte get back in business. i've ordered secretary ross to do just that. there was huge blowback from congress, the intelligence community. everyone said, oh, my god, what's going on here? how do we have this company, which is an intelligence risk, which is a predatory investor, which is busting sanctions on iran and north korea, why would trump do this reversal? of course, he reversed himself again and said we'll see what happens. he could change his mind again. still, that confusion itself is a pretty big problem. >> excellent reporting, josh. you've got the whole list of all
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of china's demands. >> zte is in there. >> of course it is. food repo good reporting. coming up, the summit standoff as north korea threatens to cancel a meeting with donald trump and kim jong-un. the former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. bill richardson, there you see him. he's my guest. he's standing by live. your company is constantly evolving.
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nations, who has been to north korea on missions on several occasions. thank you very much for joining us. so you think it's going to happen, the summit june 12th in singapore or no? >> i believe it will happen, because both sides need it. president trump needs it, kim jong-un needs it. both have invested enormously. east asia is the most difficult foreign policy national security crisis. so i think it will happen. i think both sides are right now seeking leverage, negotiating a bit. i think the north koreans are flexing their muscles. again, what's happened, wolf, is that we're speaking with different messages. the national security is saying one thing. the secretary of state, who i think has been very positive and restrained, is -- >> you're talking about john bolton. the north koreans in their statement cited his recent comments comparing what's going on potentially in north korea to what happened to gadhafi in
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libya and what eventually happened the libyans gave up their nuclear program and a few years later he was overthrown and killed. listen to what bolton said over the weekend. >> i think we're looking at the libya model of 2003-2004. i think it would be a manifestation of the strategic decision to give up nuclear weapons. doesn't have to be the same as libya, but something concrete and tangible. it may be that kim jong-un has some ideas and we should hear him out. >> part of their statement specifically mentioned john bolton saying what he says about gadhafi and libya is unacceptable. >> that's right. the north koreans saw gadhafi leave office. kim jong-un, his main objective is to stay in office. to get security guarantees, that we not try to knock him off. and then you've got the secretary of state saying that maybe north korea wants to trade their nuclear weapons for private sector assistance, economic growth. so they're speaking with mixed
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messages, and i think what has also happened, north korea is flexing their muscles. you know, you've got the north koreans releasing the three americans, saying they're going to destroy that nuclear site. i think they want a little gesture in return. what do they get in return? the president saying well, they're doing this because of the great pressure he's brought. i'm going to get a nobel prize for this. i think north koreans are sending messages, but the fundamental problem, wolf, is that the north koreans have a different definition of denuclearization. to them, it's a freeze or curbing of the use of nuclear weapons. for us, it's destroying them. >> in the north korean statement, they made another reference to john bolton saying in 2003, during proposed talks, bolton was the u.s. ambassador to the united nations, a job you once had, as well. he called the north korean
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leader kim jong-il at the time, a tyrannical dictator. they remember that. i do think they have greater respect for the new secretary of state mike pompeo who has now visited pyongyang twice over the past couple of months. >> you know, wolf, that's huge. nobody gets to see kim jong-un. maybe you're a chinese leader, but the fact that pompeo has had maybe thee horee hours of meeti with him, and kim jong-un, they talk about logistics, and where the summit will take place. my recommendation is to send, because of this little war of words, send pompeo back to get a framework for the talks. this is not going to be just a one-shot media event. it's going to be several years, i believe. what we need to get from the north koreans is timetables on what they'll do with their weapons, and inspections, not just the international atomic energy agency, but maybe some
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u.s. inspections. >> and mike pompeo refers to the north korean leader as chairman kim with a lot of respect. clearly that's something, having dealt -- >> that's what they want, they want respect. they want to be players on the international scene. they want to be the big shots with us in asia. it doesn't mean they are. but they're very sensitive. they don't think like we do. they don't think in quid pro quos. i think both sides should cool off, especially the administration. the administration is now saying maybe we won't need the summit after all. they shouldn't say that. just stick to letting pompeo be the main spokesman. bolton is more hard line, but it's really important for the president to succeed in this punishment. we're all rooting for him. but he's making it hard by, you know, these tweets and these changing of positions and talking about, well, the summit may not be that important. well, it is. it's critical to the world and
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to the united states and to kim jong-un. >> we'll see if it happens. the north koreans have canceled their meeting with the south koreans. they don't like these military exercises. we'll continue this conversation down the road. thank you very much for joining us. coming up, a cnn exclusive. taking you inside the world's worst humanitarian crisis, 22 million people dealing with hunger and disease, as the war in yemen drags on for yet another year. >> tech: don't wait for a chip like this to crack your whole windshield.
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live in yemen, it is a miserable life they can't escape. our senior international correspondent nick payton walsh goss exclusion access to one of key battlegrounds. >> reporter: a proxy war that america is deeply involved in takes a darker, brutal yet unseen turn. these rare drone images show how barely a wall is left unscathed in the iranian-backed huthi forces here. saudi arabia is leading the fight. the u.s. arms the saudis and provides them with intelligence, too. it also refuels their jets mid air without knowing where they'll strike next. my guide around the city in his
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ube. >> when life throws you lemon, you make lemonade. the huthis are right there, by the way. that's the line and that's where they sell mortar shells. a week ago i just so happened to be in the hospital and a little girl came in with her heart out. it was very, very difficult to see. she was about 8 years old and you can see her heart pumping. it's inhumane. i mean, who sends mortar shells and rockets into a -- this is the most crowded city in yemen. >> reporter: humanity perseveres, however, in the spirals of dust and torn plastic sheeting that are homes for tens of thousands of displaced,
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readying themselves on the hunger and toll hunger and disease can take on a small girl reduced to twigs and bones. she barely ways 4 pounds and her mother, miriam, says this is apparently an improvement. >> translator: when i came here and was displaced, she was normal and could eat. then she got diarrhea and vomiting and very skinny. i feel like crying sometimes. >> reporter: her family are survivors after her husband's brother and son were killed in an air strike, leaving them with the six children to feed. in yemen's agony where the saudis have enough support and resolve against iran to fight on, nobody is going home until many more lives are lost and broken first.
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