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this is "gps, the global public square." welcome to you and all around the world. i'm fareed zakaria. when the world opened its jerusalem embassy on monday, the palestinian forces protested, with dozens killed. i talk to fernandez about the fight that ensued in israel and around the world. also, indictment and impeachment. two words that swirl around a lot these days.
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constitutional law scholar loren stride has more to say on impeachment. should trump be impeached? you might be surprised by tride's answer. picking winners and losers in the silicon valley is no easy task. getting in on the ground floor of google and amazon, among many other amazing successes. what is his secret? but first here's my take. teachers are striking in states all across america, and since last week was teacher appreciation week, i intended to write on the subject. that is a mehtaphor for what is happening with teachers today. we live in a media environment in which the urgent crowds out the important. but this weekend, i'm going to stick to my plan and talk about
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teachers. in eastern -- "east of eden," john stein beck writes, in the country, the teacher was not only an intellectual para gotten and a social leader but also the matrimonial catch of the country side. a family could indeed walk proudly if a son married the teacher. the average pay for a teacher in america adjusted for inflation has actually declined over the last 15 years while health care has risen substantially. teachers own 60% of what a professor with considerable education does. with low wages and stretched resources. american educators burn out and quit the profession at twice the
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rate of some of the highest achieving countries. since 35% fewer americans have studied to become teachers in recent years, she notes there are massive teacher shortages, forcing schools nationwide to hire more than 100,000 people who lack the proper qualifications. in fact, it is so hard for public schools to find qualified americans that many districts are starting to recruit teachers from low-wage countries like the philippines. it's not all about money. leading a classroom was never ray paa pathway to riches, but being a teacher reached the status that richard steinbeck's book reflects. it has been observed that the countries that do best in public education, singapore, korea, can be teachers because they pay reasonably well, they invest in
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the professional development of teachers, and their society shows deep respect for the profession. in america when we encounter a member of the armed services, many of us make it a point to thank them for their service. when was the last time you did that for a public schoolteacher? yes, education is a very complicated subject. simply spending more money does not guarantee results, although there are studies that indicate a significant correlation between teacher pay and student achievement. the education bureaucracy is rigid and often corrupt. but all of this masks the central problem. over the last 30 years, as part of the assault on government, bureaucrats and the public sector in general, being a teacher in america has become a thankless job. and yet teaching is the one profession that makes all other professions possible. for more go to cnn.com/fareed and read my "washington post" column this week. and let's get started.
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the split screens on monday was striking. in jerusalem, leaders from the white house all decked out in their finest, opened the new embassy in jerusalem. while a few miles ago, the border with gaza, clashes take place and more than 3,000 were injured. back in jerusalem, here's what white house adviser and trump's son-in-law jared kushner had to say that day. >> i believe peace is within reach if we dare to believe that the future can be different from the past. >> really? let's bring in two experts. tom freedman is a "new york times" foreign affairs columnist and author of "thank you for being late."
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and we have a long-time palestinian activist and official. let me start with you. what do you see from the palestinian point of view as the meaning of this move of the u.s. embassy? after all, jerusalem is the capitol of israel. countries do get to choose their own capitols. what is wrong with the united states moving its embassy there? >> first of all, jerusalem is not the capitol of israel, jerusalem is occupied territory. jerusalem is a separate city and according to international law, it is an occupied city. it was occupied by israel in 1948. israel was occupied in '57. but jerusalem is essentially a palestinian city, so therefore to claim that israel has its right to choose its capitol, yes, on its own land, within its own boundaries. but they cannot choose a capitol
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on other's lands. >> and what does the united states say to you? >> it has removed the core of the requirements of peace from their agenda. as they said, they removed it from their table. jared kushner says peace is to be had. you've destroyed the chances of peace, you've destroyed jerusalem unilaterally, you've destroyed the refugees by striking at one, you do not talk about a two-state solution on sovereignty. so what peace? >> tom freedman, how do you see it? >> let's go back to what kushner
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said, fareed, by moving the embassy to jerusalem and recognizing israel as jerusalem as its capitol, they've taken it off the table. only israelis can take it off the table. let me speak in terms of trump's own language. they claim this was in advance of the peace process. well, you know, if i were trump and actually wanted to use this as an advance of the peace process, what would you actually have done? what would a sane, intelligent, wise president have done if he was insisting on doing this move? he would have come to netanyahu and said, i'm going to recognize jerusalem as your capitol without defining west or east jerusalem, but here's what i'm getting in return. i'm going to get a return on all israeli settlements. you want that? i want this.
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if this is trump, he could have said, i know you don't like this, but i got you something obama never got. i got a freeze on israeli settlements outside the settlement blocks. that would have been the art of the deal. what trump did was the art of the giveaway. he actually gave away one of most valuable leverage tools in american midwest diplomacy. it was actually for a bit of pornographic equality. when you bring in a bunch of far right ultra-orthodox, really outside the mainstream of american jury. a million dollar check was written to the gop before this move. this was basically designed to advance the republican midterm agenda. >> and tom, what do you make of
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the protests in gaza? you were there just about a month ago. is it fair to say that hammas is to blame? >> you do have to ask hamas, what are you doing? you're throwing people up against the israeli fence. you know what's going to happen. to me it was a cover for hamas' utter failure -- not just this year but last year, over a decade of providing. yes, the turkish minister went off on this, but it's quite striking to me how little protests -- this tragic death of scores of palestinians, even in the west bank, let alone in europe.
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>> i have to answer this -- we cannot constantly blame hamas. if you ask the tens of thousands of people who are there, they will tell you these are not push ts back people. they do not get an overdose from above. the people who are organizing. who are fed up with the situation of upper oppression and thank god for their life. this is nothing short of a massacre. because all the time they are seen not as human beings. anywhere else that would be a
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real outrage. sdplz tom freedman, how does this thing move forward? you're hearing what shavri is saying, you're hearing what is said. what is your reaction to where we are? >> fareed, my reaction is do you want to make a point or do you want to make a difference? we can make all kinds of points about how bad the israelis are. i can make all kinds of points and how effective it is. >> we can act. . that's your only way out. if palestinians can't feel at
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home and take their shoes off, palestinians and others will be afraid to. >> unless we sit down and move forward with what we know is the right solution, nothing is going to change and we'll just have this endless. . i want you to expand about american domestic quality. how it comes into play in the middle east. we'll be right back. because they've chosen the industry leader. subaru outback holds its value better than any other vehicle in its class, according to alg. better than rav4. better than grand cherokee. better than edge. make every adventure a happy one with subaru outback. get 0% apr financing on the 2018 subaru outback.
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conflict and domestic conflicts. tom is the three-time winner of america's columnist and writer of "thank you for being late." i was struck by the fact that three teachers responsible for opening and closing the embassy in jerusalem, an extraordinary moment. two had said that the jews were damned and would essentially burn in the hellfires. one even praised hitler. what does that tell you? >> it shows, fareed, how off the israeli leadership is about america today. they have lost so many mainstream jews, conservative and reformed jews, and netanyahu's view is, i can get away with anything in america because i have the evangelicals and i have the republican party in my pocket. and that's probably true. but you know what he doesn't
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have? is he's losing mainstream. he could speak in the u.s. congress, but could he speak at the campus of the university of wisconsin? could he speak at ucla? could he speak at nyu? yeah, he could, if they brought up the national guard. he's winning the debate in a very small circle but he's slowly eroding the support of so many people who want to support israel but they're seeing israel do things they can't support, and therefore, they're just emotionally disengaging. >> tom, you are so passionate about this subject. your book is so eloquent. how do you feel just, you know, logic analysis aside. you're a human being. you just took your family to israel. what is your reaction from the government? >> my reaction about israel, fareed, is what it's always
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been. i think understand and think about israel as an american or american jew or anyone for that matter. you have to have three thoughts in your head at the same time. america has built in so many ways, science, technology, education, really absorbing these immigrants from all over the world. it's an amazing place, number one. number two, israel does bad stuff. it does bad stuff in the occupied territories. it does bad stuff sometimes. and number three, israel has a breakdown in authority. you have to hold those three thoughts in your head at the same time. some people want to say, israel is great, it's amazing. some people say, israel is awful. it's occupying, that's all many,
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castles that belong to the royal family. so the british monarchy probably pays for itself. new research suggests that they do worldwide for the companies that exist. the president of sociology at the university of pennsylvania tracked the governments of 137 countries from 1900 to 2010. he found that monarchies offered unity in the face of internal conflict, they offered a check on internal power and a check on executive holders. he used a statistical analysis and concluded that it resulted in benefits of $167,000 in wealthy per capita. the country with the highest per capita gbt, luxembourg, headed
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on may 13, 2017, the famed law scholar wrote a piece in the "washington post." the article's title was called "trump must be impeached ". here's why. tride spent much of the year since doing an experiment with one of his students. as often happens with his research, tride came out on the other end with a very different opinion on the matter. what does he think now? they join me. before we get to the conclusion, i want to get to the news of the
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week and what's going on. robert mueller apparently has said we got this from giuliani but the president won't be indicted even if there are crimes. explain this. if one of us does something that is criminal, we would get indicted. why does the president not get indicted? >> first of all, i wouldn't give a lot of weight to what giuliani says. what we know is the guidelines of the justice department treat the president as very special, even though our most fundamental traditions says he's not above the law. if he were to suddenly start shooting his enemies, whether on fifth street or anywhere else, i assure you it would apply.
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but the tradition is you don't indict the sitting president. the main remedy, as the framer provided, the main remedy for a renegade out-of-control president is impeachment. impeachment is tough. >> and this comes out of the constitutional convention? they were worried about, okay, they're creating this presidency. the only thing that existed before then was european monarchs, right? >> absolutely. they were really do i understand of appointed for it or in case you choose wisely, but the person in there is automatically kruptd. so impeachment was part of the constitutional design and it was meant to calibrate checks and balances in what the framework they saw was a precarious situation. >> why isn't it that normal criminal behavior would not
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suffice, or even unconstitutional behavior. you know a lot about the emollients clause, you're involved in those cases. it appears that there are a lot of foreign countries that are trying to please donald trump by throwing business his way. from hotels to various condominium projects. that sounds like a gift, and that would seem to run afoul of the emollients clause of the constitution. >> it certainly does appear that the president is in constant violation of the emollients clauses. or pe lea-- the question of wher the president should be impeached for violating the constitution is something that a lot of thought has been put
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into. if they impeach for run of the mill practices that the president would not be able to govern the country. he would never be able to actively. so the framers had this idea that you needed some real wrong doos doing. very serious services, because otherwise the impeachment of power could get out of hand. >> so what rises to the level of impeachment, in your view? >> as long as it's a power that wants to dissolve what we have. we should proceed on the impeachme impeachment. >> when i was writing about a
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year ago that we should start immediately investigating impeachment, it was just four days after comey had been fired and just four days before mueller was a poippointedappoin. the moment mueller was appointed, it seemed to me that simply engaging in a. it's hard not to drive this emergency fm. you can't fire that bullet more than once, and if you were to be impeached by the house, under circumstances where there isn't a deem de. you can imagine where that would lead. it would be a wounded tiger. >> it seems to me the book is.
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and if it. you would end up in a situation where the people who voted for h her. we had all these smarty pants elected, elite types, conspired and found a way to get rid of the guy that they had elected. it's important that we don't exaggerate the weight and impeachment power that got him there in the first place. buyers remorse, we thought this guy was trer ribl. we would really undermine rather than save our admonition raek.
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amazon's ibo, they would be worth $1,000. well, he invested in his law firm. he is legendary for picking company after company that went on to international success. i wanted to talk to him about that, about his new book "measure what matters" and about what silicon valley is facing today. john doerr, a pleasure to have you on. >> thank you. >> people look at facebook and google and they say, you guys are selling data that isn't yours. you're selling data that -- my browsing data, what apps i'm looking at, what purchases i do, and you shouldn't be able to do it, or at least not without my explicit say-so. do the critics have a point? >> they do.
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and privacy and trust are essential to all the internet companies. but i think that as we adopt privacy regulations, and there are a number in place today to make sure the regulations have the right balance. if they're too burdensome, it won't be popular for entrepreneurs to innovate. and if they're too lapse, this sacred trust could be violated. >> so you are perhaps the most famous venture capitalist in the world. how does one get started doing that? what did you do that took you down this path? >> well, i was born and raised by an engineer in st. louis, missouri. i wanted to work this computers so i made my way to the silicon valley and was very, very lucky. i got to work for a tiny chip company called intel for a legendary ceo, andy groh. at the time they made the first
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processor, it kicked off the entire revolution. >> did you have a sense you were at the start of what turned out to be this extraordinary technology boon? >> yes. it was really very clear. andy's partner said that every two years would cut in half the performance. that's been going on for 50 years now, so it's a remarkable source. >> how did you get from there to venture capital? you were at intel. >> i was at intel very happy, pursuing any career, learning from andy and others, and i got a phone call from a friend firm wants to hire a gopher. i interviewed for the job and
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somehow got it. that's my story. >> so you have invested early or at the earliest stages in google and amazon. when people hear that kind of thing, is it just luck? you used to say, i like lucky generals. are you a lucky general? >> i'm a very lucky lieutenant, not a general. it's the entrepreneurs who are the amazing ones. of course, after the microchip and the pc, then we had two more great tectonic waves of innovation. they seem to happen every. >> you said the iphone is going to chachk -- catch on. >> nobody thought you could
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build and sell iphones. i get to see how these come together. most amazingly, though, i get to see the world's most talented entrepreneurs. >> what is your skill? most would think. >> they don't always work. maybe a. it's hard to tell early on that jeff pe srk erbazos is jeff baz the whole industry around. >> what's your sign that this pair is going to pull it off? >> first and foremost is their commitment to technical excellence. second is their ability to build a team around them.
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third is a strategic focus on a really large unserved parent need. the porch -- and the fifth sense is that sense of urgency. today's incumbents are more agressive than ever before, but they can move fast. t the. >> the book is very centered around some things you learned from andy grove. why is this such an important way to think about business? >> it's deceptively simpld, kind of obscure. but the essence of that mais fo
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many. most hold their goals and keep them transparent. they will get our team aligned around the same set of goals. then we'll commit. we'll measure our progress, we'll track how we do. if, after the end of a period of time, we're going to send them to to learn more commitment. i showed these to sergei brown. he was 24 years old. and sergei enthusiastically said, yes, john, we'll try this. well, not quite -- actually what he said is, we don't have any other way to manage the company so we'll give this a go.
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and i took that as an endorseme endorsement. it was written down, her objectives and key results. they've sthard them. >> why is that important? >> google wants a culture, winners want a culture where it's okay to take risks, it's okay to fail. so you want to set goals that are almost impossible to chooef. if you're receiving 70% and. i would rather aim for mars and if we don't quite get it,.
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>> that is correct. >> that was 2017 national spelling bee finalist, one of the regional championship speller in the movie "tbreaking the bee." the movie talks about how the national spelling bee competition came to be dominated by a tiny minority of the united states. 20% of all winners have been indian american children, including 17 victors and co-victors in the last 18 years. >> we wooirival the yankees, da cowboys, celtics and lakers. we're in that. >> i was interviewed for the film and gave some of my thoughts on this unexpected manifestation of the american dreams. the indians who do well in spelling bees in america are drawn from a very small group of
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indians who were very adventurous who decided to take advantage of the relaxation of american immigration rules in 1965. >> go to breakingthebee.com to find out where you can find the film and be sure to watch this year's spelling bee finals on may 31st. thank you for being a part of my show this week. i will see you next week. hello, everyone. i'm fredricka whitfield. thank you so much for joining me this sunday. president trump making a strong demand on twitter just moments ago writing, i hereby demand and will do so officially tomorrow when the department of justice look into whether the fbi infiltrated or surveilled the trump campaign for political purposes, and if any such demands o requests w