investigators were investigating him, that's what the president demanded from the russia probe and to some extent that's what he got. did the doj cave? did it punt? the rosenstein make a ruse on the president? look at all the angles starting with jeff zeleny he white house. jeff, what are you learning about today the meeting at the white house with chris raid, rosenstein dan coates? >> it was on the agenda before the president's weekend storm online on twitter, but there was nothing regular about the meeting. the president wasn't asking the justice department to essentially investigate the investigators, as you were saying. this is something that presidents don't formally do. the justice department should be an island, an oasis. they were all sitting in a meeting together for less than an hour or so. we haven't gotten much of a

readout in terms of the mood or temperament. we saw them walk out. they had smiles on their face. all we know is this -- the president has been successful, at least in the short-term of having the inspector general at the office look into this, look to see if there was a confidential source inside his campaign that was giving them information. they want to see if it's going to happen. there are some conservatives who believe rod rosenstein is not going far enough. they believe that he -- obviously they would like him to step aside, but they the ig is putting on a shelf. but not really. the inspector general can be very serious here. they are looking at this. john kelly is apparently going to be sitting down with congressional leaders later this week to look over some sensitive information. he is the one urging the jd nuse

department not to give in to demands here. and now we hear the justice department believes the white house chief of staff should not be involve in the this at all. this did not clear anything up today. >> there was not a press briefing. any indication why? >> one answer i heard is the president was out several timing speaking so they were not going give a briefing. that's not normally how it, wos. there's not a press briefing every day, but there has been. talking to a variety of people, the tweets over the weekend were so explosive in some respects, the president talking about the situation, the white house staffer and others do not want to be answering questions about this. that's why i believe there was no press briefing. we'll see if there's one tomorrow. but today it was actually sort of quiet here after a weekend

tweet storm. >> jeff zeleny, thanks very much. with me now, chris stewart, republican from utah. are you satisfied with what came out of the meeting today with the department of justice and the inspector general agreeing to look at this. >> they're not above accountability. we don't tell our law enforcement officials you have untethered power. go and do what you want and we don't care. we are not going ask you about it or ask you to account to the american people. i think it's a step forward in thatment as your reporter said, i'm a little bit concerned. we have the department of the justice inspecting the department of justice, but ighorowitz is doing a good job. >> either the matter warranted vettings long ago and he did

nothing or he has seen the facts and believes nothing is wrong. his belated referral so not news, it's a ruse. >> yeah. we'll see. i think it's a step forward. we'll see how big of a step forward. there's been a narrative that we want to know the individual or the source. we care not at all about who the individual is. we have not asked for information regarding him as all. we want underlying information. that's the thing that's important to us. we have not been able to see that yet. the department of the justice has denied that so us still. i don't know how anyone can say that's a good idea. let the department of justice lold it close. let's them leak it but not show it to congress. because that's what's happened. >> does it concern you the president is going against press sent is? it's been a long time since we have seen anything really like

this, the president of the united states pushing this on the department of justice. >> we have never had a department of justice who was so arrogantly pushing back saying we are not going answer your questions. i answer to the people. i answer to you. if they are not going to tell us, where does that leaf us as a country. i understand they want to protect the source. that's why the intelligence committee is a select committee. we have ax to some of the most classified information the department of justice or cia or any one of them have. we don't leak that. it's insincere so say we can't share that when i think the primary reason is because it embarrasses them, not because they're trying to protect national security. >> the meeting chief of staff kelly is goichk with the congressional leaders, the fbi, the dni, are rosenstein going over the classified information,

do you worry about leaks coming out of that? should democrats and republicans be involved in that? >> we have been worried about leaks for a long, long time. i've spoken about it as have many others. this is the executive meeting with the doj, and giving them instructions so i think that's an important thing for them do. >> i want to bring in the rest of our panel. they have questions. gloria? >> congressman, are you willing to sort of believe the possibility at all that this informant might actually have been working to protect the trump campaign from any kind of infiltration? that that informant might have been working on behalf of an intelligence community to find out who was going on so in the end they could alert people in the campaign? isn't that a possibility? >> i've heard people propose

that. i suppose it's a possibility. i can tell you their actions both during the time and after and since, including up until this time certainly doesn't indicate that was their motive. >> so you think it was a trap? >> i don't think it was a trap. i just think it was -- we don't know what it was. which is why we are asking the questions. give us some information. >> what about their actions seemed appropriate to you? meeting with carter page? george papadopoulos. >> i'm not confirming whether any of these reports are true. because we haven't seen any of the information. people ask me, can you confirm the identity of the source? i don't know. we haven't been the information. i can respond to press reports and i don't know if they're accurate or not. only the department of justice knows that. if you have the a political campaign -- this is the president of the united states. and if you are inserting someone from the department of justice into that campaign, you better

have a good explanation for that. you better have evidence to back up the situation and that's what we are asking for here. give us the evidence that would support that. >> but was someone actually inserted into the campaign? makes it sound like this person had an office in is ttrump towe >> as i understand it, he didn't know papadopoulos, he reached out to him. he didn't know carter page. >> that doesn't mean he wasn't part of the campaign. >> he was reaching out. >> he was having meetings and the president said in one of his tweets, if the doj is basically -- he said if the doj infiltrated a campaign for the benefit of another campaign -- that is a pretty big deal. do you think that's what they were trying to do?

infiltrate the campaign? >> i don't know. let's find out. >> do you think that's a possibility. >> i guess the question is, what would you like the fbi to have done if they had concerns the trump campaign might have been infiltrated? what should they have done? >> i don't know. i'm not saying they shouldn't continue with that investigation. my concern is not what they should have done. my concern is to date, we have no evidence that's true. and i challenge anybody to give me evidence. if that's the case, how do you justify some of the activities of the senior department of justice and the fbi? how many times have we told -- the republican memo is a good example. national security, you're going endanger lives. they had not even seen it. you have all read it. i challenge you to find anything that's endangering national

security. we didn't leak the identity of this, assuming this was the individual. they did. >> you keep saying we didn't leak it. >> when i say we, i mean the intelligence community. >> chairman nunes does have to name. that's how it became an issue. >> he does not. he does not have that name. we have a source. we don't know the name. that's important to note. >> it says in the "new york times," the "washington post", we didn't. we were the last people to print it, actually. this appeared in right-wing publications before elsewhere. this is an issue pushed by republicans on the hill, out to journalists, speaking to them off the record. i know this. i was part of this reporting. so, you know, it seems a little disingenuous when you're like, we want to know the name of

this. it's the department of justice leaking. >> i don't want to know the name. >> do they know? >> i'm assuming they do because they call him a source. >> why are you certain they leaked him? >> it's in their own documents. they say source, et cetera. i don't know if they leaked it to the right-wing wereo for "washington post". >> you don't know they leaked anything. >> no. all i know is we don't. >> there's a lot of people talking about it. i got challenge you on this one thing. i don't know how sincere it is to say, here's a very a did tailed description of this person. but then the protect the integrity of this individual, wither not going tell you his name. but many, many people connected those dots and figured out who it was. technically they didn't reveal the source -- >> days before they did that, the name was in breitbart, the

daily caller, in many places. but you're choosing popular media the president likes to beat up on in this. that's disingenuous. >> i don't know who it was leaked to. >> congressman can i ask you, seems like there's a larger idea of the president and what he can and can't do to instruct the justice department to investigate. seems like today we have crossed a line that in the a modern presidency had crossed. would you be okay if barack obama instructed lynch to investigate a part of the hillary clinton e-mail investigation? ment you would have okay with barack obama instructing loretta li lynch? >> of course. she works for him. >> i watched her hearing on the

hill. every question from a republican senator was, loretta, will you stand up to the president if he directs you to do an investigation. she said, yes, i will stand up. similarly, justice officials who have gone up have made the same promise, so it seem like this norm has been made until today. >> there's a difference though. there's a difference in saying how you will investigate and will you investigate. and my answer to your question was, will he investigate. i think any time there's a necessity or unanswered questions, the answer should be of course. now what i wouldn't support -- >> he didn't ask, he demanded. >> welsh that's fine. either way. but the second part was to say, this is how you will investigate. that's a very different question, of course which i would support. >> i need someone over here on my side. >> you're doing a good job. >> one more question and then we

have to go. >> today i've seen no evidence of wrong doing on the fbi. they used an informant to question two people who the campaign described as one was a coffee boy and one was barely associated with us and the guy turned up very little information. that was it. >> that's such a great point. i'm glad you brought that up to make this point. if what we know is true, they started this investigation on pure here say. let me ask you, would you be comfortable if the next democratic candidate, bernie sanders based on here say would say, let's investigate the campaign the same way? because most persons would say, no, i don't think that's right. >> are you saying the here say is from australia? >> is it from the australian

diplomat who talked with carter page. all the trips to moscow. is that here say? >> no, that's not here say. do you know how many thousands of americans went to russia dhaurng time? >> well, no. >> they were encouraging people. carter page was a businessman. he did what he did. believe me, i can find someone associated with democratic campaigns who have been to moscow. if that's the only information we need -- >> he had contact with a russian spy. he tried to be recruited and reported that to the fbi. >> and then continued. >> good to be with you. >> my pleasure. much more ahead tonight. we'll talk about the legal and national security implicatiompl. what the president demanded. what rosenstein agreed to.

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that's the law enforcement process. if the department of justice and rosenstein said, sorry, mr. president, we are not going do what you ask. what's the likelihood the president would have thrown a grenade in and said, you're out. despite this is unusual, i'm in the sure rosenstein made the wrong decision. i think he bought time. >> do you think rod rosenstein was basically buying time? >> no, it's a split the baby decision. i come from a civil libertarian perspective. the president for this with the fbi having a movement to protect it, which is what they said about civil rights movements and everything else, if you looked at that side, i think people would have a very different perspective. i think this is well worth the investigation and of all the options the inspector general is the best alternative available. >> kerry. >> well, looking at the

president's intent in trying to gather information about this investigation, what really matters is what his purpose is in trying to learn that information. >> what do you think the purpose is? >> if his purpose is to learn about the investigation from the perspective of wanting to do something about russian interference in the future, wanting to protect the national security, then that's a legitimate exercise of his authority. if he's trying to learn information about the investigation because he and his inner circle have legal exposure as a result of that investigation, then i think that's potentially an abuse of his authority, because he would be trying to get information about the investigation to protect his own personal interests. >> on the face of it, there's nothing legal about this, unless -- kerry saying, depending what his intent is. >> this is plainly within president trump's constitutional authority. i think what we are seeing is

rosen teen and director wright, trying to protect him from his impulses. he made a vague tweet. trying to tell them to proceed without a predicate. that would be serious, conquenchle. they said, we'll handle this through the normal ig process. >> i think we are ignoring the context. at the same time this investigation was going on, you have also got susan rice unmasking trump campaign members using her authority in the obama administration. you have comey than as fbi director essentially preclears hillary clinton before they interview her. there are a lot of other thing that is don't look right in the time period on the law enforcement side. i'm as pro-law enforcement as anybody, but they sacrificed their about jektivity in this

pros. >> would it have been better with this report from papadopoulos, the australians, to have fbi agents sprfing papadopoulos. some say that would have looked worse for the campaign when you have fbi agents interviewing people from the trump campaign. >> if the actual intent was to protect the campaign -- i worked on a competitive republican campaign. they did not operate like republicans before. that would at least flag for them things in other campaigns might have been looking for that they were not. they should have direct. they should have taken that route. i don't think you would have seen all of the problems for the fbi that have developed out of this circumstance if they had taken that route. >> time out here. if you're investigating a city council for corruption and you're trying to determine in

podunk, indiana if there's corruption on the city council, do you go in and say, weld like to talk look into what's going on. we don't know, we would like to warn you. or would you say, there's something going on. to protect the civil good, we'll determine what's going on by wiretap or informant. the only difference here from what the fbi has done for decades is the president has a twitter account. >> here's my concern about the president demanding or in some ways the justice department start to do an investigation if he's making these kinds of demands is that the justice department is bigger and the justice system is bigger than this one particular investigation. what's important for people to know is the justice system works free from political influence. what i'm concerned of is these are contrived scandals. you mentioned the unmasking

scandal. i think that's contrived. the allegation that there was anything wrong going on with this informant in an investigation conducted under attorney general kwied lines, that was a scandal. we have to be sure additional techniques are being directed to go after a contrived scandal that's not based on any credible allegations. >> to those that say having the inspector general look into this is punts it down the road, phil, you say the inspector general is serious. it's not pleasant to be inspected by him if you're in the fbi. >> that's true. i witnessed investigations at the fbi. anybody who thinks that's a soft touch, that the inspector general is going to say, you get a pass, they put a microscope on things. i'm going anticipate mueller is

going come up with conclusions in 30, 60, 90 days. i don't think the inspector general will be done by then. if mueller comes out and says, here's indictments or no indictments this investigation becomes irrelevant. i think that's why this might be a punt. >> so do you see this as a punt? something that won't go anywhere because there may be results for muler? >> the language is so beg and broad. we didn't see a statement from mueller today. the doj are not giving their opinion on this. i don't think it's a punt in the sense that the ig investigation isn't a real investigation, but there's also an investigation. texas expanding at the margins. the substantive difference from this morning is of timing and redirecting the president. >> there's a great deal to

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has. i think he saw an opportunity to go on the offensive, to furtherer cloud the situation. i think he's done that pretty successfully in making the case that this is an improper investigation and that people haven't done right. he continues to put out information to make that point. from the politics of it, what the president is doing has worked out well. >> it is appropriate? you're talking about him including the investigation. that doesn't sound positive. >> i think there's a legitimate concern here about what the prior administration did with respect to the politic of this. if this particular thing rice rises to that level, it's similar to other things that raise questions about the investigation and what was going on during the campaign. not the investigation. this is another such story. i think he's adding weight to the overall argument that the

real corruption was during the obama administration, not what he was doing. >> paul, during the clinton administration, which you worked for, did the chief of staff ever have ax to the to the information from the department of justice? >> no, absolutely not. this is unprecedented in the med earn era. this is exactly from the trump political play book. you begin with projection. i'm not a puppet. you're a puppet. he said ben carson wasn't a good christian? that's how he attacks. he deflects. something else to think about. this is what mandy carpenter wrote the book. trying to divert, distract, anything other than answer the simple questions. >> let me explain to you why it's working. he's winning this argument because everyone is sucked into the debate of whether there was a spy embedded into the

campaign. we are not talking about the why. why did the fbi feel the need to have an informant approach george papadopoulos. well, the australians said he was dragging in a bar about the e-mail hacking. we need a three-month investigation. from then until donald trump standing up asking the russians to find the e-mails. paul manafort resigned in same. that is an incredible series of events that we are not talking aboutle we are not talking about the time line. we are sucked into this fake debate about spies. >> jason. >> i see it much differently. let's not gloss over this. the fact of the matter is the fbi or doj were running an outright entrapment effort.

>> based on what? >> exactly. >> george papadopoulos was bragging to foreign officials. >> you have three fringe players and you have this helper guy, they call him the wall russ. first of all, i want to know who's paying this guy, how much he was paid, who directed him. he's running a outright entrapment evident. >> are you willing to acknowledge the understood lying -- that may have led the fbi to approach him to start an investigation? >> why is he spying on a u.s. campaign. >> and my question about george papadopoulos telling australians -- >> he's the fringe -- >> so they have not looked into that. >> this seeps -- >> jay -- >> the revelation that bill clinton meeting on the tarmac. >> give me a break. >> what about hillary's deal?

what about her e-mails? >> jason -- hold on. one at a time. >> jason on the one hance you're arguing that carter page and george papadopoulos were fringe players. on the other hand you're saying this is a confidential inform manhattan spying on the heart of the campaign. you can't have it both ways. >> why is the fbi, doj -- >> because george papadopoulos has talked to australians saying there are these e-mails. don't they have to investigate that? >> so a young kid, this young kid, and they're reaching out trying to entrap these guys. >> a young millennial. >> you brought up the meeting that ben had with loretta lynch while the fbi investigation of the hillary's e-mails were going on. we all agree that was bad.

bill clinton should not have gotten on that plane. tell me why donald trump can summon everyone to the white house and demand documents. tell me -- >> we deserve to know who's investigating all the trump people. >> the investigation is under way. do you think the witnesses should have ax to the information that they may be taken to court? that's witness tampering. >> from everything we saw in 2016, that absolutely need to happen. >> is this department of justice basically folding to his pressure? >> i think what the deputy attorney general did today or yesterday -- i forget when the meeting happened. so much has happened. i think he tried to buy himself some time and he didn't want to be on the receiving end of the president's twitter account. he did fold. this is a dangerous president. you do what he says. you start the investigation, kick it to the inspector general. what's to top the president from

asking more next time? where does it end? where do you draw the line? i think what's interesting for my republican friends, some of them, is that what the president is doing here is twisting themselves up. i don't think anyone can sit on the panel and say that james comey seemed to be in the pocket of hillary clinton during the campaign. i just don't think that's true. i think that there was -- we knew about the hillary clinton investigation into her e-mails the server, but we knew nothing about the investigation into donald trump. to suggest there's a deep state coverup going on -- >> what should the fbi have done if they had this information that george papadopoulos said this to the australians? >> to me, if that's it, to actually put -- because you have a junior member -- >> and also carter page going to meeting with -- >> most of it was because of the dossier and other stuff floated out there.

>> they said it's not the dossier. republicans said that. it has been reported and the officials noted it was not the dossier that started this investigation. i'm wondering. are you i asserting that an a personal from the campaign bragging to the australians is something -- >> launched by some guy spewing at a bar. i think we are in big trouble if that's the state. >> would it be probe for a foreign entity in your presidential -- >> of course not. >> okay, then why are we ksh -- >> but someone in the percentage getting drunk? >> we have to go. thanks, everybody. fascinating look at maggie haberman, in the "new york times." how they covered the president. extraordinary ax from newsroom. and the latest on hawaii when we come back.

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no surprise the president is lashing out at the press again, just yesterday tweeting things are getting ridiculous. the failing is crooked, but not as crooked as hillary clinton. the "new york times" did a report about how the world's most expensive witch-hunt found nothing. the "new york times" is one of his favorite targets.

this sunday a documentary airs. here's a clip where the president calls maggie haberman. >> hey. >> mr. president, how are you? good, thanks for making time. i appreciate it. i'm just wondering how you see this today. what did you say to ryan about this today? you don't? okay. is there anything your team could have done differently or anybody could have done differently? so you're going to tell your voters we tried and they wouldn't let us fix it, basically. yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [ bleep ] >> i spoke about the fourth estate with director liz garvis.

it's incredible that scene with maggie haberman. the press has come out attacking maggie saying she has no access to him. she talks to him on the phone. >> didn't seem like in the moment it was the first time he called her. he had her number. >> when did you decide to do this film? inauguration say, you see some people watching the administration. >> trump after he was elected was going around to the major news outlets and organizations and he had a meeting with the "new york times" he decided to cancel abruptly via twitter. on that day, november 2 i thought this paper has a huge amount of meaning for him. he's from queens. it's his hometown paper. it's dynamic. let's see how it's going play out. cnn has been one-his favorite punching bags as well, but at

that point i wanted to see how it played out and get a sense of the press urgency. >> we also get an experience ---en why, people used to aus used to talk about a 24-hour news cycle. with newspapers it was about the morning or evening edition. that's all gone in the wind now. it's digital. getting stuff out as soon as possible. >> there's an hour news cycle. one of the most shocking things is how big it is. getting scoops up first, even a couple of minutes up first is important for the leaders. "the times" feels like it's important to get things outs early for their readers. >> i think it's interesting in this age news organizations are being called the enemy of the

people, attacked as being fake, just to see how information is gathered to see how it's vetted, to see how it's gone over and to see how it end up in a newspaper or online or end up in a digital platform. >> i think when you watch" the fourth estate" you'll see the preparedness. reporters miss scoops because they want another verification. you see the commitment of these journalists to getting it right. hopefully it's an anecdote to that characterization of the news. >> what do you hope people get out of the film? >> these people are not the worst pictures painted of them in the fake news attacks. their ideology is the truitt and that's what they're after. it's not the resistance over there. you don't feel the partnership. you feel their desire for scoops and truth. >> and getting it right. >> and getting it right, yeah.

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tonight we are learning new details about the ten lives that are lost friday in that shooting in santa fe high school in texas and the about the actions that may have saved more lives. retired police officer john barnes is in the hospital. he confronted the shooter. he and others engaged the shooter they contained him and got one area isolated to them engaging to them so he did no other damage to other classes. >> teachers will return to school on wednesday, teachers will return a week from tomorrow. some will informer return. kimberly barn was killed in her classroom. i spoke to her mother before the

beginning of the broadcast. ronda i can't imagine what life is like for you. what can you tell people about kim? >> she was a force to be reckoned with. she never knew a stranger because she'd talk to anybody. we would be in the grocery store and she'd be talking everybody's ear off. she was a great comedian, she was never without her little corny jokes. she was known for it. she would sent me tech messages, little goofy thing all the time. just -- identify said it a bunch of time, she was just too awesome for all of us down here. she had to go upstairs and be awesome up there. >> she was a life long girl scout i understand. that was important to her. >> yes, she joined girl scouts when she was in kindergarten. i was her troop leader for years and i led with a friend of mine.

and she was actually about to start her gold award, which is the highest honor that a girl scout can earn, anyone whose familiar with boys' scout it's like our eagle scout. >> right. >> she was going to work on creating a program with a s l. she was going to create a program for young children and families to communicate better using a s l. she was delayed in speech as a preschooler and toddler so we used a s l to communicate. she started taking that class in high school and she lovedism that's what she was going to do. >> i understand she was a big reader too of harry potter. >> oh, huge harry potter fan. we just came back from orlando as a family. that was such an amazing trip, we went to disney and universal

studios. she was so excited. she got to eat ice cream. she was so awesome. >> how is your son, her brother doing? >> he's doing all right considering, it comes in waves. sometimes he's really okay, and then other times he's not. he just wants to -- he just needs extra cuddles. what are you going to do, you just have to comfort him. >> and friday, i mean, it started out as a typical day for you and kim. >> yeah, well so, i'm a school bus driver for the district, i've been driving for about five years now. and, on that day a bus was off schedule and we had -- i had waited specifically, i'd waited

over to the side in my own vehicle for her bus to come up and her bus driver to come and assist me with shuttling some students to the next campus. and, i was standing up out of my seat, i always say good-bye, i say hello and good-bye to my students every day. i was standing there saying good-bye to everybody that were my passengers. and i looked over my shoulder and she walked by because her bus was behind me. and i looked over and i said bye kim, and i said, i love you. this was our thing, i love you in a s lie detector. >> those were the last words you said to her, i love you? >> yep. and we did our thing right there. >> i was talking to you before we wen on air and one of the thing you said is, they messed with the wrong mom. >> oh, they did. they did. one of my phrases is, don't poke

the bear. well, they poked this mama bear and i have been talking to some of my representatives in the area. i've reached out to tammy duckworth from illinois as a new mom and a veteran, i'm waiting to hear back from her. but i'd really like to see some positive changes happening for my daughter, i really would. >> is there anything else you want people to know about your daughter? >> oh, there is. actually, she -- when she started the high school last fall in august, she was allowed to die her hair, because they had a looser code about that. and she was known for her red streaks that i did at home. and, so i encourage everybody if you're thinking about going to be salon and up to have some fun, put some red in your hair for my daughter, okay. and also, families, do this,

spread this around, okay, make this a thing. >> i love you, that's the sign. >> yeah. i love you. >> ronda, you sound so -- it sound so hall allow to say but i am so sorry for your loss. i appreciate the strength it takes to come on and talk about your daughter. i wish you the strength in the years ahead. >> thank you so much. it's not -- i had conversations with folks i never thought i'd have and my world is just upside down. i have sitting there and i thought, i can cry about it or i can just get up and do something and charge forward and channel that. i mean, that's what you have to do. you don't have a choice. >> ronda, thank you. >> thank you very much. >> remember kimberly vaughn. we'll be right back. whoooo. looking for a hotel that fits... ...your budget? tripadvisor now searches over...

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lava from two different flows are seeping into the ocean that's creating a new danger. when it hits sea water it sends glass particles into the air. that's it for us, thank for watching. time to hand it over to don lemon. "cnn tonight" starts now. i'm don lemon. live in washington 40 tonight. breaking news tonight, the president waging war in his own department, summons rod rosenstein and director of daniel intelligence, dan hocoat into the white house today. the president was lived ovly vi what he suggest was an -