investigating the investigators investigating him. that's what the president demanded in the russia probe. to some extent that's what the president got from the department of justice. did the doj cave? did it deputy attorney general rod rosenstein perpetrate a ruse on the president? look at all the angles starting with cnn jeff zeleny at the white house. what are you learning today about the meeting that took place the president had with fbi director chris wray and dan coats. >> it was a regularly scheduled meeting on the agenda before the weekend storm online on twitter. it is nothing regular about this meeting. the fact is the president was asking the department of justice to essentially investigate the investigators. this is something that the president's don't normally do. the justice department should be

an oasis. they were sitting in a meeting together for an hour or so. we haven't gotten much of a read out in term of the mood. we saw them walk out and they were smiling they had smiles on their face. all we know is this, we know the president has essentially been successful at least in the short term of having the inspector general at the department of justice look into this. in fact a confidential source inside the campaign giving fbi the information. there's some conservatives who believe rod rosenstein is not going far enough. they believe he informant they would like him to step aside. they think the i.g. is putting on a shelf. not necessarily the inspector general can be serious here. at least in the short term they are investigating this. and probably more interestingly white house chief of staff is apparently sitting down with congressional leaders later this week to look over some of the

highly sensitive information. that could be very important here. remember he's the one who was urging the justice department not to give in to congresses nands on this. we hear from democrats to want who don't believe the white house chief of staff should be involved at all. this at no time clear anything up. probably just deepened it. >> the white house didn't have a briefing again today. have they given an indication why. >> there was not a press briefing. i heard earlier today the president was out a couple different times speaking. that's thot normally how it works. there's not a press briefing every day necessarily. usually there has been the reality here i believe the tweets over the weekend were so explosive in some respect the president talking about this investigation. the white house staffers from the podium the press secretary and others do not want to be answering questions about this. that's why i believe there was no press briefing.

we'll see if there's one tomorrow. in the days to come. today it was actually sort of quiet here. after a weekend tweet storm. >> all right. thanks very much. with me now congressman chris stewart. are you satisfied with what came out of this meeting today with the department of justice and the inspector general afwreeing to look into this? sfwl it's a step forward. an important step forward. the department of justice nor the fbi is above accountability. we don't tell law enforcement officials you have unpower. go do what you want and we don't care. we won't ask you about it. it's a step forward in that. as your reporter said i'm little bit concerned we have the department of justice inspecting the department of justice. i.g. has done a good job so far. he's revealed important information. and we look forward to hearing his report. >> i want to read a tweet.

rod rosenstein knows exactly what happened and what's in the development requested by congress. either the matter warranted investigation and he did nothing or saw the facts and believes nothing is wrong. it's a ruse. >> i don't think it's a ruse. it's a step forward. we'll see how important a step forward it is. you ask if i was satisfied there's an important element. there's been a narrative we have been wanting to know the individual or source. we don't care at all. we have never asked for information regarding him at all. we want the under lying information. that's important to us. and we haven't bnt able to see that the department of justice denied that to us. i don't know how anyone can say that's a good idea. let the department of justice hold that close. let's let them leak it to "new york times" and "washington post." not show it to congress. that's essentially what happened over the last three days. >> there have been -- does it

concern you the president is going against precedent. it's been a long time since the president of the united states pushing this on the department of justice. >> we have never had a department of justice who was so arrogantly bureaucratically pushing back and saying we're not answering questions. i represent the people. i represent you. and if the department of justice is not willing to respond to congress, then what in the world does that leave us as a country of the. they want to protect sources so do we. protect the integrity of the investigation. so do we. intelligence committee is a select committee. it's a small committee with special responsibilities and we have access to some of the most classified information the department of justice or fbi or cia anyone has. we don't leak that. it's just simply insincere to say we can't share that. when the primary reason is because it embarrasses them. not because they are trying to protect national security. >> this meeting that the chief

of staff is going to have with congressional leader and head of the fbi. with the rosenstein going off classified information. do you worry about leaks? and should democrats and republicans be involved? >> we have been worried about leaks for a long time. i have spoken about it many times. but once again this is the executive meeting with doj which is the executive and giving instructions. it's appropriate to do. >> i want to bring in the rest ot panel. >> congressman, are you willing to sort of believe the possibility at all that this informant might actually have been working to protect the trump campaign from any kind of infiltration. that informant might actually have been working on behalf of

intelligence community to find out what was going on so in the end they could alert people in the campaign? is that a possibility? >> i have heard people propose that. it's a possibility. i can tell you the actions both during the time and after and since including up until this very time. certainly doesn't indicate that was the moment. >> you think it was trap. >> i don't think it was a trap. i think it was -- we don't know. which is why we're asking questions. give us information and let us make evaluation. >> what about the actions seem inappropriate? meeting with carter page according to to the reporting. meeting with george papadopoulos? >> i'm not confirming. because i can't. whether the reports are true. we haven't been shown the information. people ask can you confirm the identity of the source. i don't know. we haven't been shown the information. so i can respond to press reports and i don't know if they are accurate or not. only department of justice knows that. if you have a political tam pain

this is the president of the united states. and if you are inserting someone from the department of justice into that campaign, you better have a good explanation. you better have evidence to back up the decision. that's what we're asking for. give us the evidence to support the decision. >> was somebody inserted into the campaign. it makes it sound like the person had an office in trump tower and was in the rough and tumble of the campaign. somebody meeting with papadopoulos and carter page. >> he didn't know papadopoulos. he reached out to them. he didn't know carter page. >> that doesn't mean he was part in the campaign. >> he was reaching out to officials in the campaign. >> meetings with the campaign. which isn't the same thing as infiltrating. the president said in a tweet that if the doj is basically infiltrating a campaign for the

ben fete of another campaign. that's a big deal. that's a big accusation. is that what the fbi or doj was doing? trying to help clinton? >> i don't know. let's find out. let get the information. >> the question is wa would you like the fbi to have done if they had concerns the trump campaign might be infiltrated? what should they have done? not meet with anybody. >> i don't know. they shouldn't continue with that investigation. my concern isn't what they should have done with the evidence. my concern is to date we have no evidence that that's true. and i challenge anyone to give evidence of collusion. if that's the case, how do you justify some of the activity of the senior people within the department of justice and the fbi. if i can make this point, how many times have we the republican memo was a good example. national security will endanger lives and they haven't seen it. all of you read it. i challenge you to say anything

on there that was endangering national security. they're saying the the same here. you're going to endanger peoples lives and national security. we didn't leak the identity of this assuming this was an individual. they did. >> you keep saying we didn't leak it. we don't have it. but chairman does. chairman nunes does. he has the name. >> he does not. >> it was in a subpoena. >> he doesn't have the name. we had a source. we don't know the name. that's important to note. >> it say "new york times" the "washington post" and we didn't. we were the last people to print it actually. this appeared in various right wing publishings. speaking off the record. i know this. i was part of the reporting.

it seems disingenuous to know we want the name of this. it must be the department of justice leaking. >> there's -- i'm assuming they do. because they call him a source. because it's in their document. source etc. so they know who it is. and i don't know if they leaked it to right wing or "washington post." all i know it was leaked and i know the "washington post" -- >> you don't know the department of justice leaked it. >> we didn't. we don't have the information. >> a loft people are talking about it. >> i have to tell you to challenge you. it's i don't know how sincere it is to say here's a very detailed description of this person. then to protect the integrity of the individual. we're not going to tell you his name. many people connected the dots and figured out who it was.

technically they didn't revoel the source. >> why would they? >> days before that the name was in breitbart a number of places. you're choosing popular kind of the media the president likes to beat up on. it really there's something disingenuous about that. >> once again i don't know who it was leaked to. it was leaked. >> congressman, can i ask you. it seems like a larger issue here about the president and what he can and can't do with respect to directing the justice department to investigate and not investigate. it seems like today we have crossed a line that in the modern presidency hasn't been crossed. would you have been okay if president obama instructed lynch to investigate a discreet part of the clinton e-mail investigation? would you have been okay with that. >> any time investigation into transparency. >> president obama directing lynch and how she handles the

clinton investigation? >> of course. she works for him. >> i watched her hearings on the hill. almost every question from a republican senator was will you stand up to the president if he tells you how to direct an investigation? and she promised again and again yes i'll stand up. similarly, justice department officials have made the some promise. this norm has been ironclad until today. what happened? >> there's an important difference. between saying how you will investigate which is what you -- and will you investigate. my answer to your question was will you investigate. i think any time there's a necessity and unanswered questions the answer should be of course i would support the president. what i wouldn't support. >> he didn't ask he demanded. >> either way. the second part of the question is it's different to say this is how you will investigate. or i'm telling you how. that's a different question.

>> i'm unclear. i need someone over here on my side. >> one more question. >> why there needs to be an investigation. to date i have seen no evidence of the wrong doing on the fbi. they used an informant to question two people as the campaign described as a coffee boy. and barely associated. he turned up very little information ask that was that. i'm not sure why there's an investigation. >> that's such a great point. i'm glad you brought it up. if what we know is true, they started this investigation on pure hearsay. and let me ask you would you be comfortable if the next democratic candidate bernie sanders based on harass. i promise you we can generate hearsay. let's investigate that campaign the same way. most of americans would say no. i don't think that's right. >> carter pages contacts with the russians are -- from the

australian diplomat who talked to george papadopoulos or carter pages communications with moscow trips to moscow. is that hearsay? >> do you know how many thousands of americans went to moscow during that time of the it was the russian reset. they were encouraging business people to go to moscow. he was a businessman. he did what many of the them did. is that evidence? i can find someone associated with democratic campaigns who has been to moscow. if that's the evidence we need everyone will be under investigation. >> he had contact with a russian spy. >> he was tried to be recruited and he reported that. >> and kept continuing. >> he reported it. >> good to be with you. >> much more ahead tonight. we'll talk about the legal and national security implications. what the president demanded and what rod rosenstein agreed to. and the election on the hawaii big island.

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you can say a lot of things about meeting at the white house. and the demands that proceeded it. accuse rod rosenstein of caving or shined the president on. or called the president's actions inappropriate. you cannot say this is an any way shape or form normal. accept the administration. with us now the panel. phil, just from a law enforcement standpoint. how unusual is this? >> we're talking in the green room trying to find a situation where this happened before. and i can't remember when. that said before you judge rosenstein too hard let's play out a scenario. if you're in the law enforcement business you want the investigation whether it's a criminal investigation or civil. to continue. that's a law enforcement process. if the department of justice and rosenstein said sorry mr. president we're not doing what you ask. what's the likelihood he would

have thrown a grenade in the process and said you're out. despite the fact this is unusual, i'm not sure that rosenstein made the wrong decision. i would have done the same thing. he bought time. >> do you think rosenstein was buying time? >> no. he was it's sort of a split the baby decision. but i come from a civil libertari libertarian perspective. the precedent for this with the fbi having an informant to protect it. and if you look at that side, i think people would have a very different perspective. i think this is well worth investigation and i think of all the options the inspector general is the best alternative available. >> i think that looking at the president's intent in trying to gather information about this investigation, what really matters is what his purpose is in trying to learn that

information. >> what do you think the purpose is? >> if his purpose is to learn about the investigation from the perspective of wanting to do something about russian interference in the future. wanting to protect the national security. then that's a legitimate exercise of his authority. but what if he's trying to do is learn information about the investigation because he and his inner circle have legal exposure as a result of the investigation, then that's potentially an abuse of his authority. because he would be trying to get information about the investigation to protect his own personal interest. >> on the face there's nothing illegal about this. unless depending what intent is. >> this is plainly within president trumps constitutional authority. rosenstein and director wray trying to protect president from his own worse impulse ls. he issues a vague tweet. it could have been read saying

he was directing doj to proceed without a proper predicate. that would be very dangerous. diverting his impulses and saying no don't order this investigation. we'll handle this through the normal process. we have seen it happen before. that's what they're doing here. >> i think we're ignoring the context. at the same time this investigation was going on you have susan rice unmasking trump campaign members using her authority in the obama administration. you have comey as fbi director essentially preclearing clinton before they interview her. a lot of other things that don't look right in the time period in on the law enforcement side. and look i'm prolaw enforcement as anybody. they sacrificed a bit of their objectivity in this process. >> would it have been better if having had this report about george papadopoulos a conversation with the australians to have fbi agents interviewing george

papadopoulos? those say that would have looked worse for the campaign if you have fbi agents interviewing people from the trump campaign. >> well, if the actual intent was to protect the campaign, look, i worked on a competitive republican campaign. they didn't operate like people who ran km pains before. that would flag some things people might have been looking for that they were not. they should have been direct. they should have been taken that route. i don't think you'd have seen all the problems for the fbi. that have developed out of this circumstance. if they had taken that. >> time out. if you're investigating a city counsel for corruption and trying to determine for example in indiana, whether there's corruption on the city council. do you go in and say, we'd like to talk about what's going on. because we don't really know. but we'd like to warn you we're

up to something here. or say, we have somebody who's walked in and said there's something inappropriate going on in the city council. we think to protect the civil good, we'll determine what's going on by a wiretap or informant. the only difference for what the fbi has done for decades is that the president has a twitter account. >> here's my concern. about the president demanding or justice department doing investigation if he's making these kind of demands. is that the justice department is bigger and the justice system is bigger than this one particular investigation. and what's important for people to know is that the justice system works free from political influence. and so what i'm concerned is that these are contrived scandals. you mention the unmasking flt that was a contrived scandal. this allegation that there was anything wrong going on with this informant that was being used in a counter intelligence

investigation according to to an investigation conducted under attorney general guidelines that's a contrived scandal. what we have to be concerned about is whether or not additional investigative techniques are being directed to go after a contrived scandal that isn't based on any actual credible allegation. >> to those who say that having the inspector general look into this is sort of punting it down the road. you say the inspector general is serious. it's not pleasant to be investigated by a inspector general. >> that's true but. i witnessed investigations at the fbi. anybody who thinks that's a soft touch that the thpt tor general will say you get a pass. the inspector general will put a mike crow scope on something and find something wrong. mueller will come up with a conclusion and in 30, 60 days. i don't think the inspector general on this investigation

about the informant will be done by then. my point is if mueller comes out in july. and says here's an indictments or no indictment. this investigation becomes irrelevant. that's why this might be a punt. >> do you see this possibly as a punt? something that won't go anywhere because there maybe results from mueller? >> the language is so vague. we notice we didn't see a statement out of rosenstein or wray. they are not giving their take. it's not a punt in the sense that i.g. investigation is a real investigation. it's a punt in the sense there's already an ongoing i.g. investigation. this is maybe about expanding that at the margins. but the substance of difference from where we were this morning really is just a question of timing and redirecting the president. >> i want to thank everybody on the legal panel. news from the white house. the political equation at the center of the investigation.

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breaking news the justice department is broadening the investigation into the top level meeting at white house this afternoon with president trump. inspector general will investigate the president claim his campaign may have been infiltrated by a confidential fbi source for political sources. here we me to discuss the politics of it all. my panel. what do you make of what happened today? there was conservative republicans saying this is basically a ruse. this is the president got the wool pulled over his eyes. >> look, i think the president is doing what the president always does. which is go on the offensive every opportunity he has and just sees an opportunity to go on the offensive to further cloud the situation.

he's done that pretty successfully in making the case that this is an improper investigation and people haven't done right and continues to put out information to continue to make that point. and so from the politics of it, what the president is doing in my opinion has worked actually very well. >> is it appropriate? you're talking about him clouding the investigation. that doesn't sound positive. >> there's a legitimate concern here about what the prior administration did with respect to the politics of this. whether this particular thing rises to that level it is with other things the administration did. that raise real serious questions about this investigation. and about what was going on during the campaign. not the investigation. during the campaign. this is another such story. and i think he's adding weight to the over all argument that the real corruption was during the obama administration. not what he was doing. >> during the clinton administration which you worked for. did the chief of staff ever have

access to information from the department of justice and like this? >> no. certainly not. this is unprecedented. you have to go back to hoover and nixon. this is from the trump political play book. begin with projection. i'm not a puppet you're a puppet. he projects. onto his that's how he attacks. projection and deflection. here's something else to think about. the fbi was sending spies in. this is exactly why carpenter wrote the book. this is gaslighting. trying to divert and distract. anything other than answer the simple questions about what you did and why. >> why it's working. donald trump is winning this argument because everyone is sucked into the debate of whether there was a spy in the campaign. we're not talking about the why. why did the fbi feel the need to have an informant approach george papadopoulos? well, they got a tip that the

australian said he was bragging in a bar that he had prior knowledge of the e-mail hacking. we need to do a three hour special on june july and august. from the trump tower meeting to the hacking. to stepping down at chairman of dnc. wrecking the convention. and calling on the russians to produce the e-mails. that's july 27. the fbi investigation was open july 31. the next month just weeks later paul manafort resigned. in shame. that is a incredible series of events that we're not talking about. we're not talking about the time line. it's a fake debate about spies. >> i see it much differently. let's not go gloss over this. it looks like either the fbi or doj were running an entrapment effort on three -- exactly. on three fringe players.

we have three fringe players and have this the wall rus. i want to know who's paying this guy. who directed him to do this. an out right entrapment effort to try to get to it. why is lt fbi or the doj spying on a u.s. campaign? >> how was he spying? >> he's reaching out to them. >> answer my question about george papadopoulos telling -- so the fbi shouldn't have looked into that? a tip from the allies someone had prior knowledge of the cyber war. they're afraid of his twitter account. give me a break. >> what about hilary's deal? >> jason. hold on. one at a time.

>> jason on the one hand you're arguing carter page and george papadopoulos were fringe players. and spying on the heart of the campaign. it can't be both ways. >> why is the fbi and doj sending someone in to -- >> george papadopoulos talked to australians saying there are e-mails. don't they have to investigate? >> this one kid this 28 year-old kid. some drunk idiot. >> a young millennial. >> trying to entrap these guys. >> i understand the point. >> you brought up the meeting that clinton had with then attorney general lynch while the fbi investigation of the e-mail was going on. we agree that was bad. bill shouldn't have met hont tarmac while the investigation was open. tell me why donald trump can summon anyone active in the investigation to the white house

and demand documents. i don't see a difference there. other than president is a president. >> we deserve to know who is investigating the trump people. >> it's under way. should the witnesses have access to the information? they maybe taking to court. that's witness tampering. >> everything we saw in 2016. >> is the department of justice folding to the president pressure? >> i think what the deputy attorney general did yesterday or today i forget when the meeting happened. so much happened. he tried to buy himself time. and i think he didn't want to be on the receiving end of twitter account. he did fold to the president a little bit. there's this sets a dangerous president. this time you do what he says. start the investigation. kick it to the inspector general. what's to stop the president for asking for more the next time. where does it end. where do you draw the line? what's so interesting here from my republican friends. in defending what the president

is doing here, they're twisting themselves up. i don't think anyone can sit on the stage on this panel and say james comey seemed to be in the pocket of clinton during the came pan. it's not true. there was we knew about the hillary clinton investigation to her e-mail. but nothing about the russian investigating donald trump. to assert there's a big deep cover up going on. -- >> what should the fbi have done they have information george papadopoulos said this to the australians? >> to me if that's it -- because you have a junior member. >> and carter page meeting with intelligence gl most of it was because of the dossier and other stuff. >> it's not the dossier. >> they're saying -- >> it's reported and the officials have noted it was not

the dossier who started this investigation. are you asserting that a person from the campaign bragging about information to the australians is something we shouldn't? >> launch an fbi investigation based at some guy at a bar speaking up? >> we're in big trouble. >> would it be appropriate for a foreign entity in your -- >> of course not. >> would it be appropriate for a low level nobody to get drunk. >> he wasn't low level. >> we have to go. thanks everybody. maggie haberman and how they cover the presidency. a new document tear. extraordinary access to the news room and the latest hawaii. and the latest on the lava. my car smells good. it's these new fresh-fx car air fresheners from armor all. each scent can create a different mood in my car.

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no surprise president lashing out at the press again. yesterday tweeting this. things are really getting ridiculous. not as crooked as hillary clinton. the "new york times" did a long and boring story. they are looking alt the rest of the world. the "new york times" is one of his favorite targets. the fourth estate debuts on show time taking you inside the "new york times" news room as they cover the presidency. a clip where the president calls maggie haberman. >> mr. president, how are you? good, thanks for making time. i'm wondering how you see this today. do you what it you say to ryan about this today? you don't? okay. is this anything your team could have done differently?

>> no. >> so you'll tell them -- tell your voters we tried and wouldn't let us fix it. basically. yeah, yeah. >> i spoke about the fourth estate can director. >> it's incredible. that scene with maggie haberman. first of all now that the president has come out saying attacking maggie haberman saying she has no access to him. >> yeah. right. >> she talked to him on the phone. >> it didn't seem at that moment like it was the first time he called her. he had her number. >> when he he decide to do this film. it starts on inauguration day. >> trump after he was elected was going around to the major newspapers and organizations. and he had a meeting with the "new york times." which he decided to cancel. by twitter.

and they started in this twitter back and forth. on that day november 22, i thought this paper is obviously has a huge amount of meeting for him. he's from queens his hometown paper. cnn has been in the one of his favorite punching bags as well. it felt like this dynamic was ripe and explore press freedom during this presidency. >> you get a sense which we experience here as well, of the -- people talk about a 24 hour news cycle. newspaper it was about getting out the evening edition or morning edition. that's gone in the wind now. it's digital. it's getting stuff as as quickly as possible. >> there's an hourly news cycle. one of the most shocking things being a fly on the wall. how intense the competition is. cnn and "washington post." just for scoop. that's driving everyone and getting an alert up first. even if it's a couple minutes

it's important for the readers. the times feels like it's their responsibility to inform the readers as soon as something happens that's not the case ten years ago. >> i think it's important in this age where legitimate news organizations are being called by the president of the united states the enemy of the people attacked as being fake. as manufacturing stuff. to see how information is gathered to see how it's vetted to see how it's gone over. and to see how it end up in a newspaper or online. or digital platform. >> when you watch the fourth estate you'll see the seriousness and carefulness. reporters miss scoops because they want yet another verification. you can really see the seriousness and the commitment of the journalists to getting it right. i think hopefully it's a bit of an antidote to the characterization of the news. >> what do you hope people get out of the film.

>> these people are not what the pictures painted of them in the fake news attacks. the seriousness of it. and they are the ideology is the truth. that's what they're after. it's not the resistance. you don't feel the partisan ship. you feel the desire for scoop and truth. >> getting it roigt getting it right. that's that you feel. mistakes are too big to have. the environment is too heated for mistakes to happen flt you feel that. >> thanks so much. >> coming up we remember kim berly von. i'll speak with her mom. you get another day in paradise. get a sunset on a sunday. get more stories to share. get more from your summer getaway with exclusive hilton offers. book yours, only at hilton.com

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tonight we're learning new details about the ten lives that were lost friday in that shooting at santa fe high school in texas and about the actions that may have saved more lives. retired houston police officer john barnes is in intensive care in the hospital. he was a resource officer at the school. confronted the gunman. tonight galveston county sheriff said barnes and others were able to engage the gunman quickly. >> officer barnes is a hero. the two officers that engaged that individual within four minutes or approximately four minutes, they're heroes. they contained him in that one area isolated to them, engaging with him so he did no more damage to other classes. >> teachers will return to school this wednesday. students will return a week from tomorrow. some of course will never return, among them kimberly

vaughn who was killed in her first period art class on friday. i spoke with her mother tonight just before the beginning of tonight's newscast. what do you want people to know about kim? >> she was a force to be reckoned with. he is loved everybody. she never knew a stranger because she'd talk to anybody. we would be in the grocery store and she'd be talking everybody's ear off. she was a great comedian, she was never without her little corny jokes. she was known for it. she would sent me tech messages, little goofy thing all the time. she was just -- i said it a bunch of times. she was just too awesome for all of us down here. so she had to go upstairs and be awesome up there. >> she was a life long girl scout i understand. that was important to her. >> oh, yes. she joined girl scouts when she

was in kindergarten. i was her troop leader for years and i led with a friend of mine. and she was actually about to start her gold award, which is the highest honor that a girl scout can earn, anyone whose familiar with boy scouts, it's like our eagle scout. >> right. >> she was going to work on creating a program with asl. she was going to create a program for young children and families to communicate better using asl. she was delayed in speech as a preschooler and toddler so we used a lot of asl to communicate. she started taking that class in high school and she loved it, and that's what she was going to do. >> i understand she was a big reader too, a big fan of harry potter. >> oh, huge harry potter fan. we just came back from orlando as a family.

that was such an amazing trip, we went to disney, and we went to universal studios, and we got wands. she was so excited. because she got to eat butter beer ice cream. she was so awesome. >> how is your son, her brother doing? >> he's doing all right considering, it comes in waves. sometimes he's really okay, and then other times he's not. he just wants to -- he just needs extra cuddles. what are you going to do, you just have to comfort him. >> and friday, i mean, it started out as a typical day for you and kim. >> yeah, well so, i'm a school bus driver for the district, i've been driving for about five years now.

and on that day, a bus was off schedule and we had -- i had waited specifically, i'd waited over to the side in my own vehicle for her bus to come up and her bus driver to come and assist me with shuttling some students to the next campus. and i was standing up out of my seat, i always say good-bye, i say hello and good-bye to my students every day. i was standing there saying good-bye to everybody that were my passengers. and i looked over my shoulder and she walked by because her bus was behind me. and i looked over and i said bye kim, and i went i love you! this was our thing, i love you in asl. >> those were the last words you said to her, i love you? >> yep. and we did our thing right there. >> i was talking to you before we went on air, and one of the things you said is they messed with the wrong mom.

>> oh, they did. they did. one of my phrases is, don't poke the bear. well, they poked this mama bear and i have been talking to some of my representatives in the area. i've reached out to tammy duckworth from illinois as a new mom and a veteran, i'm waiting to hear back from her. but i'd really like to see some positive changes happening for my daughter. i really would. >> is there anything else you want people to know about your daughter? >> oh, there is. actually, she -- when she started the high school last fall in august, she was allowed to dye her hair because they had a looser code about that. and she was known for her red streaks that i did at home. and so i encourage everybody if you're thinking about going to the salon and you want to have some fun, put some red in your hair for my daughter, okay?

and also, families, do this, spread this around, okay, make this a thing. >> i love you, that's the sign. >> yeah. i love you. >> rhonda, it sounds so hollow to say it, but really, i am just so sorry for your loss. i appreciate the strength it takes to come on and talk about your daughter. i wish you the strength in the days and years ahead. >> thank you so much. it's not -- i had conversations with folks i never thought i'd have and my world is just upside down. but, you know, i was sitting there, and i thought i can cry about it or i can just get up and do something and charge forward and channel that. i mean, that's what you have to do. you don't have a choice. >> rhonda, thank you. >> thank you very much.

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