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it took both koreas by surprise. and we'll have the latest on north korea's reaction. we begin tonight keeping them honest with the justice department briefing to the members of congress about the fbi's use with a confidential source during the 2016 campaign to investigate what we know now was disinformation. the first meeting and originally the only one scheduled for today was for republicans only. trey gowdy and house intelligence committee chair devin nunes as you probably know is already facing accusations of carrying water on several occasions for the white house. and the second briefing which came from pressure was bipartisan, the so-called gang of eight which is the norm when it comes to sensitive intelligence. there was something very abnormal about one particular aspect of the meeting. the person who turned up unexpectedly and set off suspicions. this is the person who unexpectedly showed up, emmitt flood, an attorney of the white
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house. he appeared with chief of staff john kelly. no one knows who invited flood to today's meeting. he was there at the start of both briefings. in case you're wondering what flood's focus is here's what press secretary sarah sanders said to him when he was hired. emmitt flood will be joining the white house staff to represent the president and the administration against the russia witch hunt. so an attorney shows up to address two meetings of lawmakers and law enforcement officials who are going over highly sensitive information having to do with the russia investigation. according to white house emmitt flood and john kelly only made brief remarks before the meetings to eare lay the president's desire, and i quote, for as much open discussion as possible. it's one explanation why flood was there, and here's another, rudy giuliani, also telling politico, quote, we want see how the briefing went today and how much we learned from it.
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if we learned a good deal from it, it will shorten that process considerably. as we said, a number of people in the room were very surprised to see the presidential lawyer there, and we're also just now learning even of the white house are having second thoughts about flood's appearance. an official there saying his presence likely did not help with concerns the briefings had become politicized. both meetings took place today in the middle of the president's effort tos to brand the fbi source as a spy targeting his campaign. he's said the word spy 17 times since last friday. we don't know what was revealed at the meetings today, but adam schiff who was at the second meeting said he heard no evidence of a spy in the campaign today. >> there is no evidence to support any allegation that the fbi or any intelligence agency placed a spy in the trump campaign or otherwise failed to follow appropriate procedures and protocols. >> well, cnn's chief political correspondent dana bash joins us now. she's got new reporting on rudy giuliani's take on the briefings
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today. i know you talked to giuliani about emmitt flood and how he ended up in the briefings. what did he say? >> that's right. i talked to him a couple of times tonight before coming on. i did ask him if emmitt went to these meetings at the behest of the president or maybe under orders of the president? he said the president hasn't told him the answer is yes. but giuliani assumes that's the reason that flood went. because the president, his client, and the person who emmitt flood now works for inside the white house wanted him to be there. now, anderson, you mentioned the context of this, of why this is even a story. in the beginning but i can tell you as someone who's covered capitol hill for many, many years, the protocol for most if not all so-called gang of eight meetings, when the intelligence community or the law enforcement community is briefing the top intelligence lawmakers and
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leadership about issues like this, the white house isn't there. and that's even under the most benign circumstances. this adds a layer of the fact that the white house, meaning the president, is part of the investigation that they're talking about, which makes it so unbelievably unprecedented. >> right, the idea that the president or what rudy giuliani believes, that the president would have told the presidential attorney, flood, to go along with john kelly and address both meetings just to give them a sense that, you know, the president wants things to be as transparent as possible. that's pretty stunning. >> and i had a bit of a back and forth with him on the phone about this saying it just doesn't really make any sense for emmitt flood to have been at these meetings. and he argues that he obviously he and the president and clearly emmitt flood disagree, that it is the president's prerogative i as someone who is part of the investigation and the executive branch to know exactly what went
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on. and that is where the rub is. a very, very different point of view on what's appropriate. >> and about all the concerns over this confidential source, rudy giuliani now appears to be raising the stakes. >> that's right. he also earlier today said to me that effectively that knowing what went on with this confidential source is a prerequisite for any conversation, any interview that the president will sit for with the special counsel. in fact, tonight he even used a word, trapped. he said i'm not going to send him in to get trapped in an interview without knowing exactly what went on. so that is certainly -- does raise the stakes. it also, let's be honest, kind of feeds into what the president's legal team, what most of the legal team has wanted all along, which is no interview. and they are still facing a client, the president of the united states, who is still saying even publicly today he wants to sit down for an interview. >> i want bring in our legal
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team. jeffery toobin and josh campbell. jeff, does it make sense to you, rudy giuliani, i mean does he have the leverage to demand this information about a confidential source as a condition of an interview? >> well, he can decline to give an interview for any reason or no reason at all, and then they'll just fight it out in court over a subpoena. what looks to be going on here is that giuliani is looking to create some sort of impasse so that he can decline an interview. and he seems to be erecting obstacles just for the purpose of avoiding the interview. >> he's latching on to this so-called spy issue. >> right, and this so-called spy issue, first of all there's absolutely no evidence there was
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a spy. second of all, even if they learn the identity of this person, that has very little to do with what the president's going to be asked about. so it's really a fake issue. >> and what do you make of flood showing up at both meetings? >> again, what the president has been trying to do is discredit the investigation, discredit the fbi, discredit mueller. and, you know, if he sends his lawyer in to sort of preview what's going on, again that looks like advocacy. it doesn't look like a neutral investigation of the facts, which is what gang of eight investigations is supposed to be. >> and this is too rich. i mean if you look at the underlying allegation here, that the fbi sent someone into a scenario in order to gather information inappropriately, i think that's what you saw today. like when you take a conflicted party like the president's lawyer who was hired to refute these allegations of russian collusion, he's obviously going to report back. i spent the better part of today giving the white house the
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benefit of the doubt. i described this as a perception problem. they don't understand this just looks bad to send someone in. but rudy giuliani to come out and say this is strategy, we're going to learn what he said and incorporate that into the investigation that's the definition of inappropriateness. >> dana, what are you hearing in washington that flood was brought in for a possible impeachment fight was there for at least the beginning of the briefing today as far as we know. >> look, we've seen so many examples of the norms being shattered, and this is a pretty explosive example, i think. and the reason is because, as i said, this isn't just about kind of the protocols which were not followed in that -- they had to fight, they the democrats, and even some republicans had to fight for the democratic leaders and the lead democrats from the intelligence committees even to be briefed in the first place. this time yesterday we weren't sure that was going to happen. then when it happened the fact
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that it included somebody from the white house, whether or not he gave a statement at the top or he sat for the briefing it's sort of not even relevant. it is unbelievably, really unprecedented. and this is again not just in covering it, this is from talking from people who have been involved in these kinds of briefings for years who have said they've never seen anything like it. >> jeff, i also don't understand the rationale they're giving that he was there to express the president's desire for transparency. that just seems -- >> also at this late stage in the investigation, they know what the president's position in transparency is. this investigation has been going on a long time. this looks what rudy giuliani said it was, which was an information gathering and advocacy mission by the president's chief of staff and his lawyer about something, a factual matter that congress is looking into. but that's not where they're
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supposed to be. it's a congressional investigation, and it is as dana keeps pointing out, the gang of eight, four democrats, four republicans, four from the house, four from the senate. it's a formal process that is meant to be neutral in its political orientation. and to have the president's lawyer in there is just wildly inappropriate. >> jeff, what impact do you think it has on chris wray of the fbi, dan coats, the fbi. >> for any officer of the government who's charged with running a human source their job is going to become harder to help convince someone to come to their side. you likely went into that meeting with eight members of congress who again are known to be a little loose lipped, knowing that anything you said in that meeting could make it to the air waves. that's an unusual place to be in.
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but i think it's interesting when you look at what may have happened. i think it's safe to assume there wasn't some giant revelation of impropriety on the part of the fbi. and i think the reason we know that is we didn't see chairman nunes tripping over the microphones racing to tell us what he learned. >> and all of this is from adam schiff so far. >> right, and that's not much except that he indicated that there was nothing to suggest that there were nefarious spies as the president and his aides are suggesting. >> and nunes and gowdy reportedly didn't see the documents, they wanted, right? >> right. and that's a whole other issue, that this is not over politically when it comes to the president's allies on capitol hill. everybody from mark meadows to others who kind of started the ball rolling demanding from the
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doj that they get to see information about this, they weren't satisfied with the briefings that were set up in the first place. so you're right, the fact that they seem to have gotten even less access than they thought that they would means that the sort of drum beat is going to continue from capitol hill. >> dana's making an important point here because this conflict as she says is not resolved between the house republicans in the white house on one side and the justice department on the other is perhaps an attempt to force rod rosenstein to resign in protest or to fire him, which is something that the white house has been itching to do for a long time. so the fact that this crisis isn't over is very significant. >> thanks to everybody. a lot more ahead including more breaking news. we're learning not only did the president turn down a meeting with kim jong-un, his team also said no back in january to robert mueller. more details on that. also north korea's reaction after the plug is pulled on the summit. summit. we're live in north korea ahead.
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this is the first time we've heard of any possible date for an interview between the president and mueller. what happened? >> well, there was a meeting in early to mid-january, and it was a very different time from the time dana bash was talking about just earlier. because it was a time when the president's legal team actually wanted to get this all over with and have the president sit down. so there was a meeting with mueller. he suggested let's get the president on january 27th and laid out 16 subjects, and the president's legal team listened to it. they met among themselves later on, and they were even thinking oh, maybe we can have this at camp david, might be a good place, we could do this on a saturday. and then after thinking about it, and there was some disagreement among the president's lawyers. but the lead of the president's team john dowd on january 29th sent mueller a letter, a 20-page
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letter which one source says the president read and approved saying there's no way we are going to do this both were constitutional issues, and we believe that you have all the information that you need from the millions of documents that we've handed over to you. >> and right around that time the president was actually sounding sort of enthusiastic about talking to special counsel. >> he was. on january 24th when reporters asked him, and here's the quote, i'm looking forward to it actually. that he would have liked to have an interview, but and i think he probably was telling the truth at that time. i think after the michael cohen i've been told the president said, no way, i'm not going to do it. and you've seen them ratcheting up their attack on mueller and his team and the investigators since that point. >> i also understand you have reporting about meetings between the president's legal team and mueller that happened two months later in march. >> right. so, you know, after this happened in january there was
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kind of a lull. because the mueller team and the trump team were on very different places. so they had a meeting on march 5th and another one on march 12th. but at the march 5th meeting, i'm told by a source, mueller reiterated that he needed to see the president, he needed to talk to the president because he needed to know his intent before making certain decisions in his presidency. and of course we know what that refers to, is the firing of james comey. and at this point mueller has not changed his mind, and the trump team remains pretty entrenched about not having the president testify as you keep hearing publicly from giuliani. >> gloria, thanks very much. more legal aid now. john dean. he has seen these things from the inside. he was white house counsel to president nixon.
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what does it say the president was even one time closer to sitting down with robert mueller? >> not only his legal team in terms of the personnel has changed and been a revolving door but the strategy has changed. so at one point with a different set of players it sounds like they were negotiating and they were perhaps had one set of constitutional concerns and now maybe there's a different set of constitutional concerns. so the legal strategy, the legal analysis and then the actual approach in dealing with the special counsel's office just constantly seems in flux. >> and, john, certainly things are not what they were back in january to say the least. a lot has happened since then including the raid on michael cohen's office. what do you think the odds are of the president sitting down to an interview without a fight at this point? >> i think there will be a fight. i don't think its his option either, anderson. i think what we're witnessing is very trumpian.
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where he is on all sides and all moods at different times and different stages of his thinking. and i think it's only going to be resolved as it has been with other presidents who had to appear, the threat of the subpoena will bring him to a decision very quickly. and i'm not sure he can win in court. i think indeed the law favors the special counsel and the supreme court. i looked at the number of precedent setting instances where ken starr went to the supreme court and how quickly he got those rulings, for example, on the protective privilege for secret service testifying. he broke that privilege and did it very quickly. so these things can happen faster rather than slow. >> i wonder what you think about that, because the argument the president's legal team is making is because they believe mueller is following the justice department guidelines and that a sitting president can't be
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indicted, that the president can't be subpoenaed for something which is an unindictable offense. >> there is no specific case on point about whether or not a sitting president has to appear before a grand jury to give oral testimony. so there's document cases, but there's not something on the specific issue. so it could be litigated. it seems like the president's team is leaning towards trying to drag this out and leaning towards perhaps forcing the special counsel's office to make that decision to serve a subpoena and fight it out in court. the irony is that the longer they drag this out, they increase the chances that the president will do more things that could add to the obstruction case. so the longer this drags out he could fire more people. he could sort of verbally or through twitter intimidate witnesses. he could do other things in
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terms of his coordination with congress, trying to unearth things about the investigation that have the tendency to disrupt it. so there is actually i think a jeopardy in them dragging this out as well. >> john, cnn reported this week that the president's legal team, they're trying to narrow the scope on any possible interview to russia related matters. no questions on possible obstruction of justice. can you see any possible situation in which the special counsel agrees to that? >> it's an interesting argument that they would have no ability to restrict what happened before he became president and then have an ability to restrict under an executive privilege theory once he became president. it's never been litigated as we've just noted. i don't think it'll play either. i think that once they get it in there they're not going to agree to the questions. we've seen the breadth of the proposed topics they want to discuss, as gloria's reporting showed earlier today.
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and they're all over it, and trump is not going to be able to control that. >> john dean, just curious given that you lived through watergate, what do you make of the president's efforts to tag this using the term "spygate" clearly having a reference towards watergate and basically saying if it's true it's the biggest political story ever. >> well, it seems he's taken -- got his hands on the fog machine that rudy giuliani has been handling. and he's just trying to put smoke out there, and it's not going to hold up. i think the briefing today pretty well showed this was standard operating procedure by the fbi, and if anything the fbi was protecting him and not spying on him but rather being cautious in how they proceeded, trying to see if these people even knew they were dealing with potential russian infiltration of some kind. so the spygate doesn't work for me at all. >> thanks very much.
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summit. in a statement to state media the official says the president's statement isn't in line with the wishes for those who for peace and stability in the korean peninsula and in the world. in a statement called vice president pence a dummy. in the letter the president says in part and i quote, sadly based on the tremendous anger and open hostility displayed in your recent statement, i feel it's inappropriate at this time to have this long planned meeting. therefore please let this letter serve to represent that the singapore summit for the good of both parties but the detriment of the world that the meeting will not take place. pamela brown is here. can you plain how this summit fell apart? >> reporter: a senior white house official says it was
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canceled after a series of broken promises and odd judgment calls on the part of the north koreans. the things started to sour last week. u.s. officials say the delegation that was there to set things up for the summit, they were essentially stood up by the north korean, they never showed up. they said that a number of inquiries they sent to north korea went unanswered. so that was a big red flag also came at a time when north korea had a change in tone. they released a statement last week for criticizing the u.s. asking korea to disarm and pull out of the summit. and then you had a statement from kim last night from north korea calling the vice president a political dummy and threatening nuclear war. so you had all of that on top of the fact that kim jong-un had been a little bit skittish, showing some skittishness about flying to singapore. there was still a big distance on certain issue. so there was growing skepticism
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up until this point. but it really all culminated with that statement from north korea which led to this letter the president sent to kim jong-un today. i'm told that the administration had been expecting a response from north korea through national security channels. they knew there would be a response to mike pence's statements he made on fox news talking about the libya model. but when they received that statement from north korea threatening nuclear war, that is when the president met with his national security team, and the prevailing option on the table last night was just pull out of the summit. the president wanted to sleep on it, and that letter was sent this morning. >> while the president did threaten military action this morning, he did leave it open for the summit to happen. >> that's right. in a letter he sent to kim jong-un on one hand he's boasting about the military prowess in the united states, and on the other hand he's inviting kim jong-un to call him or write to him. the president has signaled that he still wants this summit to happen even if it doesn't happen on june 12th as originally
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planned. i white house officials today what would it take for the summit to be back on track, and basically said the administration would need to see the opposite of what it has seen from north korea this past week for it to happen. >> even as the summit was being called off north korea was taking steps to scale back its nuclear program, destroying structures at a nuclear test sites. will ripply joins us now from north korea. first of all, when the news broke that president trump was pulling out of the summit you were actually the one to break the news to north korean officials there. how did they react? how did that play out? >> reporter: we were on the train riding back from the nuclear test site, and it was late at night. we were actually getting ready to go to bed when i got the phone call. and look, it was incredibly awkward and uncomfortable. they didn't give me a response but they immediately got up and got on the phone and i assume were relaying the message up to the office of kim jong-un.
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i'm told we were the first ones to tell the north koreans that this happened. when they came out with this more measured diplomatic response it shows the north koreans still want these talks to move forward despite some of the rhetoric in recent days. >> what were you able to see today? >> reporter: we were on the ground for more than nine hours. it was surprising. it took us more than 15 hours to get there, and they showed us each of the tunnels north korea has used to conduct six nuclear tests. they opened up the doors. we could see they were rigged with explosives as far as the eye could see. then we moved up to the ravine and watched them blow up the tunnels one by one. we saw them blow up the structures there, as well. it was pretty dramatic images, but it was hard to know exactly what we were seeing, like how deep the explosions went, for example. >> there's no way, i guess, to verify the north korean claims
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that the tunnels are permanently unusable. >> reporter: that's right. because we didn't have any nuclear weapons experts in the group. they were not invited in. it was only journalists. and north koreans said, look, you've seen it with your own eyes. and our point was we saw explosions, but we don't know how it works. could bulldozers go in and open it up tomorrow or is it really permanently, as the north koreans claim? there is some skepticism from people because experts weren't invited it was really this step towards denuclearization with the north korea's claim it was. but for them to blow it up and then a couple hours the summit was canceled, it was really a surreal moment.
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tonight a north korean official says it's ready to meet the u.s. at any time and in any way. joining me, christiane amanpour, max cut and sumi terry. christiane, i wonder what you think happened here. do you think it came down to the president's words, the tremendous anger and open hostility coming out of north korea? >> look, it's really interesting because those are the very words that the north korean vice minister who i met back in 2008 over the same kind of issue, he used those words. and he said those words were in response to as he called it a resistance to the u.s. as he said unacceptable and disgraceful attempt to pressure north korea into unilateral disarmament ahead of the summit. so that's obviously how they're seeing what was going on. and i've spoke to u.s. officials who have also been on this.
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and they said, look, frankly the cart was put in front of the horse from the beginning. that there were no parameters. the actual technical work had not been done to decide what were the red lines, what were the negotiations, what was the step by step process. so not enough work had been done to have a summit between two leaders, between the president of the united states and the leader of north korea. >> do you think that played a big role? i mean in the administration, this was -- usually summits are started from the bottom up. there's a lot of groundwork that's done, a lot of meetings, weeks, months, if not years in some cases and the two leaders meet and shake hands and sign something. do you think it was partly that there were a lot of details to work out? >> certainly. we were not prepared to have this summit just a few weeks away. but i have to say i think kim jong-un was actually not planning to cancel the meeting by this statement that was made
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by his other deputy. they were actually trying to signal to washington they were very displeased about all this talk about libya which is nightmare scenario with libya. they didn't appreciate this talk, they weren't going to cave to u.s. pressure. but i think they wanted this meeting, which is why north korea released a statement which is very measured, tempered and disciplined for north korean standards. so i think that message didn't come across to washington. we just thought they were being very aggressive. but north koreans were trying to send a signal and it was just lost in translation, the whole thing was. >> max, you tweeted about how president trump canceled the summit with quote, the kind of letter he would have written to a high school crush with whom he was breaking up. i take it you're not impressed with his style of diplomacy? >> this is just the latest episode of trump-style diplomacy.
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this is not the only diplomatic debacle for president trump. this comes after a few days of his attempts to reach a trade deal with china also crashed and burned. and he had to kind of admit that he hadn't achieved anything. he hadn't achieved $200 billion in reductions of the u.s. china trade deficit. and you see what happened in the case of north korea. he rushed into the summit with no preparation without any kind of groundwork you need to lay for such an undertaking. and he hyped up expectations to the ceiling. a month ago he said north korea was -- the white house was minting coins and all of a sudden over the last week or two things spiralled downward and they said, wait a second the north koreans are not actually going to denuclearize. anybody who knows anything about north korea could have told him.
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so they rushed into the summit with high expectations and now has kind of backed out of it, which i think is the right thing to do at this point. but it just shows the same style he used in business, which by the way led him to six corporate bankruptcies, he's now applying to the business of the united states. >> do you see a scenario in which the summit does take place whether it's on the original date or a later date some time this summer? >> look, it's hard to imagine it happening on the original date. but, again, many diplomats, people who have been working this issue for a long time, especially on the u.s. side, they do see both sides want to have a summit. it was clear from president trump's body language that he's pretty disappointed because of this and he also wanted this sort of historic summit and all the things that they've been saying that he wanted to take away from it. so it might happen some time down the line, but it's clear a huge amount of proper work needs to be done. however, there's also a bit of a
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problem brewing because what president trump has done similar to dissing his european allies at the last minute on iran. remember macron of france came to the united states, trying to persuade him that diplomacy was the right way to go with iran and to keep the deal. and the minute he's on a plane back to france the president pulls out of that deal, similar with the south korean president who was in washington a couple of days ago basically as a u.s. official told me betting the farm on this diplomacy and being the intermediary, only to land back in seoul and find this whole rug has been pulled out from under him. so we're being told it's possible that the chinese may now step in and be the main mediators if you like. otherwise this may have given china a much bigger role than it might have had had if just been going between the u.s. and north and south korea. so we'll wait to see what
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happens. >> is this a win for kim jong-un even if the summit never happens simply by being legitimized by a sitting president and having a sitting president reach out to me and call me, that's something the north korean leadership has wanted for quite a while. >> no, absolutely. kim jong-un is much better placed today than he was a couple months ago. and since the olympics and agreeing to meet with him, now kim jong-un has had a makeover and now he's had this statement. and he has actually loosened or weakened political will for sanctions when it comes to china. and he also put a wedge between u.s. and south korean alliances as christiane was just talking about. south korea was completely just floored by this, by trump just scrapping the meeting. when president moon was here he was assured this meeting would
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take place. kim has gained a lot here without even sitting down with president trump. >> what we're seeing, anderson, is better evidence that trump is better at breaking deals than making deals. he's pulled out the paris climate accord, most recently the iran nuclear deal. he touts his abilities to negotiate a deal. he says he's the world's greatest dealmaker. there's no evidence of that so far. is he going to negotiate a deal with iran? there doesn't seem to be a plan deal after pulling out of the iran nuclear deal, and now he negotiated those high hopes and maybe the summit will still take place at some point, but he's not living up to his hype as a dealmaker. >> that's the thing about a summit between the dictator of north korea and the president of the united states, that would be in past administrations or future administrations, a reward
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for some sort of behavior change on and action on the part of north korea, which is sort of down backwards. >> it's backwards. and trump consistency shows his contempt for established norms and established way of doing things. he trusts his gut. he doesn't want to listen to advisers or read briefing papers. clearly the evidence of his presidency he shows that's not the case. he's not reaching these great deals. >> great to have you on. this time, involving roger tone. why the mueller team is interested in him. (baby crying) ♪ ♪ don't juggle your home life and work life without it. ♪ ♪ and don't forget who you're really working for without it. ♪ ♪ funding to help grow your business... ♪ ♪ another way we have your back. ♪ ♪ the powerful backing of american express. don't do business without it.
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number of witnesses who have been in, asked questions about roger stone's finances. they've been asked specifically, for instance, about his tax returns. this comes always in recent week as the special counsel's team seems to be bringing in his former associates. he says he knows of at least eight people called in, at least one with direct knowledge of his financial information, others dealing with social media, still others were associates of roger stone's when he was working on donald trump's presidential campaign. at a minimum, there's a lot of interest from mueller's team about roger stone, his finances and communications, which, of course, our experts say should be worrisome for roger stone. >> and is this connected to reported links between stone and wikileaks founder over the e-mail? >> he got a lot of scrutiny because during the 2016 presidential campaign he sent out tweets, made public statements that looked pretty pressy and made it look like he was essentially predicting what wikileaks was about to do next.
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stone denied he had any foreknowledge wikileaks would release hacked e-mails related to john podesta, who was then a clinton campaign staffer, but that certainly drew a lot of public scrutiny. we know mueller has been asking about that as well and may have put him on the radar in the first place. >> what has stone said about all of this? >> stone has denied he had anything to do with the russian collusion, and he and his allies now believe essentially this is a witch-hunt to try to pin him on anything and bring down a long-time ally of the president. i will read a portion of the statement stone gave me where he said the special counsel now seems to be combing through every molecule of my existence including my personal life and business affairs to conjure up some offense to charge me with, either to silence me or induce me to testify against the president. stone insists he will never turn against for the president. as for the special counsel's team, they're not commenting. >> thanks very much. a lot more ahead including the briefing on the hill about the investigation.
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