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ago that the summit was off. while there's a lot of criticism about what could potentially happen in the summit and that this has given north korea the advantage, the president was quick to warn the north korean leaders that he has many options on the table including sanctions. take a listen. >> one thing i did do, and it was important, we had hundreds of new sanctions ready to go on. and he did not, the director did not ask. i said i'm not going to put them on until such time as the talks break down. we had significant sanctions on that. we had hundreds, we have hundreds that are ready to go. i said i'm not going to -- why
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would i do that when we're talking so nicely? >> reporter: they are talking nicely now, but the president certainly dialing back expectations as to what could come out of the summit. initially there were lofty goals as to what could happen when he and kim jong-un sat down. now this is being described as more of a get to know you meeting with the hopes that they could begin serious talks about things like denuclearization and the formal end to the korean war. >> ryan, we're also hearing reports that a putin summit is being talked about. what have you heard in that regard? >> reporter: that's right. the "wall street journal" report ing that the white house and creme -- reporting that the white house and kremlin in the early stages of getting vladimir putin and president trump together. john huntsman, former governor of utah, taking the lead on negotiations, attempting to finds an opportunity for the leaders to sit down. and sarah sanders confirming to
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the "journal" talks are taking place. everyone cautioning that this is the early stages of the conversation. and that the president himself won't begin to engage in this process until long after the north korea summit is behind him. president trump only met face to face with vladimir putin on two other occasions. of course his meeting would come against the backdrop of the investigation into his campaign's potential ties to russia and fallout that could occur when robert mueller completes his investigation. they want to make it happen. the question is where and when. >> ryan nobles at the white house. >> thanks. intelligence officials are doubting north korea's major show of goodwill. we'll get to that in a moment. will ripley is in singapore. what are you hearing from that location about what is anticipated in the next ten days? >> reporter: hi, yeah, they have a limited amount of time to take care of a lot of logistical
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details. we know that north korea has a delegation along with the united states. they are sorting out everything from accommodation for president trump and the north korean leader kim jong-un to the venue for the summit itself. they have to have the right security and infrastructure in place for what is expected to be massive media interest descen descendescends -- descending on this small city/state. they've hosted summits before, but nothing like this. south korea calling it the meeting of the century. all of this unfolding shortly after president trump received that oversized letter in the oval office. the contents of which he has yet to reveal. we know that kim jong-un is a fan of letter diplomacy. when he wants to communicate with someone in the highest, most respectful way aside from a face-to-face meeting, he sends a letter. apparently president trump from the photograph in the white house was pleased to receive that and encouraged enough by his content of the discussions with kim yong chol to move forward with the summit here june 12th in singapore.
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there's a meeting happening between regional defense leaders, james mattis spoke here. the south koreans stroking an optimistic tone about the summit. the japanese much more skeptical pointing out the history in the past has shown north korea re g reneging on deals, but theying they hope it will be a positive step -- they hope it will be a positive step forward and change history. >> ten days. will ripley at the city hosting the big summit, i singapore. thank you very much. and north korea's major show of goodwill is being called into questio question. the regime said it would destroy a nuclear site in front of a select group of journalists. the point is there were no experts invited. will was there,y about no experts. the -- but no experts. the chairwoman from brookings studio in is with us. thank you very much for being with us. first of all, your confidence
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level that north korea did indeed destroy something that at one time had been valuable to them. >> my initial thought when they said they would destroy the site is they must have another testing site. it was suspicious that they didn't invite experts to the site to witness the explosions. ever since the north koreans have said that they're going to do this, it's seen as a show rather than a genuine attempt at denuclearization. >> that said, let's listen to what mitch mcconnell is saying essentially to president trump ten days ahead of the summit between the president and kim jong-un. >> it's going to be quite a challen challenge. i think for these situations to work, you have to not want the deal too much. if you fall in love with the deal, and it's too important for
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you to get it and the details become less significant, you could get snookered. >> president trump says he is a key negotiator. this is something that he is talented with. kim jong-un, tell me, does kim jong-un, is he adroit enough to snooker president trump? >> you know, i think the size of the letter that kim yong chol gave to president trump is a good signifier of how kim jong-un and the regime knows how to play the game. you can't mistake the letter. it's not a regular-size letter, but it's done for theatrics. the fact that the size of the letter, the size of the explosion at the nuclear test si site, the bluster from north korea, all of that is done for show and for theater.
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i think kim jong-un so far has shown a great deal of aptitude for engaging indent mays. he's -- in diplomacy. he's saying the right things in terms of economic reform, saying the things about peace and brotherhood and ending the korean war. with president trump he's using flattery and other things to make sure that he gets this summit. he's also not giving away the store. >> japan's defense minister says that north korea shouldn't be rewarded for agreeing to talks, he said, in fact, in light of how north korea has behaved in the past, i believe it's important not to reward north korea solely for agreeing to have a dialogue. what reward do you think japan might be concerned about and what message is that sending to president trump? >> reporter: japan has been sidelined in all of this, and japan is still the only country calling for maximum pressure on
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north korea. a striking reversal from six or seven months ago when the u.s. and japan were standing side to side together on demanding complete denuclearization of north korea. japan and others are concerned about the fact that north korea's getting a major summit with the sitting u.s. president without having had to give anything in response. as we've seen the blasting of the nuclear test site was not real. they have said repeatedly that they're not going to give up nuclear weapons without maximalist conditions in place. i think several people, many people share the concern of japan and mitch mcconnell and others that we have to be careful about legitimizing kim jong-un even as he holds the nuclear weapons. >> all right. so good to have your insight this morning. thank you. >> thank you.
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let's talk more about secretary mattis' comments overnight. the breaking news that he says that the -- he's accusing china of intimidation and coercion. defense secretary mattis is in washington, concerned about beijing's militarization of the south china sea islands. mass is says last month china's air force landed bombers and deployed military hardware on the disputed islands as part of a training exercise. that raised alarms in the region. listen >> china's militarization of artificial features in the south china sea includes the deployment of any shipped missiles, surface-to-air missiles, electronic jammers, and more recently the landing of bomber aircraft at woody island. despite china's claims to the contrary, the placement of weapons systems is tied directly to military use for the purposes. intimidation and coercion. >> mattis added the u.s. does not plan to abandon its role in
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of human rights abuse ahead of this meeting? let's talk about that and more with cnn's will ripley live from singapore. errol lewis, political commentator and anchor for spectrum news. and walter schwab, tributor and director of the government ethics office. good morning to you. will, i want to start with you because this follows a narrative, president trump as far as we know did not talk about human rights with the saudi when was they traveled for -- saudis when they traveled for the first time overseas, didn't talk about with duterte of the philippines or erdogan of turkey and on and on. tell us about kim yong chol and why that a significant topic with him about north korea. >> reporter: he also hasn't talked about it with xi jinping of china who has a history of human rights abuse. this meeting with kim yong chol controversial. this is a figure who south koreans have despised for a long time. he's believed to be the mastermind of a sinking of the naval shape that killed dozens of south korean sailors.
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he's believed to be the mastermind of the hack on sony pictures entertainment. he's believed to be one of those responsible for jailing a significant number, tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands of north koreans in these political re-education camps for people who are perceived to be disloyal. and yet the issue of human rights in north korea simply has not been brought up by the trump administration in this case. some may argue that president trump is being practical here, that bringing up human rights would be a non-starter, it would shut down these denuclearization talks before they begin. they might argue that the issue of nuclear weapons is a bigger, pressing concern for u.s. national security. north korea's human rights record. you have people saying that any nuclear deal isn't sustainable unless the human rights issue is also tackled. it's not going to happen here in singapore on june 12th. >> the administration boasts that they have offered no concessions thus far with north korea. they didn't offer anything in exchange for the return of the american detainees, they didn't offer anything for the demolition of tunnels although that's looking to be just p.r.
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but kim yong chol was in the oval office yesterday for more than an hour with the president of the united states. are the north koreans now halfway home by the legitimacy of that meeting? >> reporter: more than halfway. the photo op that they are clearly looking for which is the president of the united states shaking hands with and smiling with the north korean dictator, that's the whole thing. and they get away with it if there's no talk of human rights. they get to keep people jailed. they get to keep people oppressed. they get to keep people under the thumb of a brutal aheader terry dictator -- hereditary dictatorship. and they know the president of the united states is not going to raise a peep. that's the whole reason they have the nuclear weapons. the entire, sordid racket really sort of works to the benefit of the north koreans. it's distressing to see. it also sends a terrible, terrible message to people fighting the good fight in russia, in china, in the philippines, and all around the
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world who wanted to believe and who would like to believe that the leader of the free world, one of the titles we bestow on every president of the united states is simply not going to talk about them, think about them, or use any leverage to try and better their plight. it's distressing. >> from an ethical perspective, walter, to have this meeting not in the roosevelt room or in another place in the white house but in the oval office, how do you receive that? >> i mean, there's no government ethics issues in terms of the rules or government ethics laws. but as errol said, the issue is the legitimizing of the north korean regime. and this is something past president vs. avoided doing -- presidents have avoided doing. the optics are everything because it strengthens the north korean leader's position. >> let me ask about another element looking forward to this meeting in ten days in
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singapore. the "washington post" is reporting that the u.s. planners are working to figure out who will pay for the hotel accommodations for the north korean delegation. their property of choice is the fullerton. the presidential suite goes for $6,000 a night. the u.s. is willing to plan it, but some think it might be insulting to the north koreans and would violate sanctions. there would have to be a waiver. this could be a secondary tertiary issue. is it substantial enough that it could cause problems in the final ten days? >> well it goes to how poorly thought through this entire thing is. right now they surely have lawyers scrambling to research what processes they have to go through to comply with appropriations law and with the sanctions provisions. i'm sure they'll find some kind of way. again, we get back to the legitimizing of north korea, and now we're essentially paying tribute if we wind up paying for their hotel. i mean, it's -- the idea that
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we're getting anything out of this meeting is confusing. >> speaking of getting something out of the meeting, we've talked about the expectations the u.s. will have going into this, lowering them from potentially a denuclearization deal that we talked about several weeks ago to a getting to know you plus, whatever that is. do wean what kim expects -- do we know what kim expects? >> normally when two heads of state meet, it's after months or years of diplomacy at lower levels so when they get together they can walk away with a substantial deal. seems as if president trump realized after discussions with the north koreans that he's not going to get that so easily. the united states thinking that north korea is going to completely denuclearize in 6 to 12 months unilaterally and expect nothing in terms of economic concessions and security guarantees is a fantasy, according to many korea watchers and, frankly, to the north koreans themselves who said they would always take security guarantees making sure their government stays in power
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over economic concessions from the united states. as far as who kim jong-un wants, he wants the elimination of u.s. troops on the korean peninsula, an end to the american nuclear umbrella that protects south korea and japan, and he wants his country to open up economically with the world to improve the living standards of the 25 million people living there. speaking of money, by the way, you issue you touched on about paying for north korea's hotel, keep in mind that in previous summits under-the-table agreements were made to koreans for having meetings with south korea to the tune of hundreds of millions. even if the united states or singapore or someone spends a few million on hotel rooms here, that could be a drop in the bucket compared to what the previous leader, sikim jong-il, got for summits. >> i wonder about the contradiction from the president yesterday after the meeting with kim yong chol in which he started by saying it's an interesting letter, wouldn't you love to see it, how much -- how much to read it, and then five
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minutes later admitted that i haven't even opened the envelope. i don't know what it says. >> reporter: that's the president going back to his prior job as a game show host. it's always about sort of the tease and the -- wouldn't you like to see it, tune in next week, that sort of a thing. the startling admission that he had no idea what was in the letter doesn't speak well to where things are going. if instance after instance, it seems the north koreans have thought this through. the president of the united states perhaps has not. >> and i'm short on time, but will, you were there watching the explosions at the nuclear test site. now to hear from arms control experts telling cnn and we know that u.s. intelligence underscores that that was just for show. your reaction to having taken the train ride and the bus ride and the hike and now we know that it -- it was potentially all for naught. >> reporter: clearly a lot of
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what we saw was theatrics. for example, they blew up all the log cabins on the property. it wasn't necessary. we know that they could rebuild those in a matter of days. as far as the tunnel, we only saw the entrances explodes. we were standing as our reporting state about 500 meters away. they were not large explosions that would have injured us. we never felt there was debris flying in our direction. so you know, istead time and will say it now, we had no way to verify if what we were seeing was the irreversible destruction of site as the north koreans claim. they said they were being transparent. obviously a lot of people feel otherwise. >> thank you all. >> thank you. one of america's biggest breweries warns prices could be going up because of tariffs by president trump. little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats differently. for psoriasis, 75% clearer skin is achievable with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques.
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so glad to have you here. 31 minutes past the hour now. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. >> so today thousands of people are expected to march nationwide in a wear orange campaign. it calls attention to gun violence and gun safety awareness. why orange? of course, it's the color that hunters wear in the woods to protect themselves and other people from gunfire. a friend of one of the campaign founders was shot by a random gunman near her school
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playground. that incident motivated her to get informed, to get more involved, and she joins us now. co-founder of wear orange and gun reform, anzara kepra. thank you for being here. we so appreciate it. you had said -- you said this -- after we lost hidea, there were a lot of emotions going on. help us really understand those emotions and how that's shaping what you're doing today. >> for sure. first and foremost, there is definitely sadness and grief because of the situation. hidea was a huge part of our community. so losing her was very tough for a lot of us. there was also a lot of anger. there was averse reaction to the media attention that hidea was receiving. partially because, you know, there was definitely misinformation in it all.
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but on top of all of that, we were just angry that other people in our community as well didn't receive the same amount of attention. there was -- there definitely needed to be for coverage of the everyday violence that we were experiencing in chicago. and from that all we wanted to make sure that hidea's name continued to be commemorated. but also we made sure that we held every life to that same regard. >> how are you taking those emotions then and putting them into some sort of concrete action? >> yeah, first and foremost, just as i said before, since hidea was such a huge part of our community, the reason that she was that way was because she confronted issues and made sure that she genuiny found a solution for it -- genuinely found a solution for. if we wanted to apply that to our movement when we were trying to continue to respect and commemorate hidea. it's this drive that we have to
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>> the nra responded to your cause saying, and i want to show it here, orange has always been ours, the nra continues to be the world's leading gun safety organization since 1871. in response, there was an outspoken mother who's part of the moms demand action group. she said this -- the nra opposes mandatory gun safety training in bills. they oppose background checks on private gun sales. they oppose red flag laws. they oppose banning bump stocks. they oppose child access prevention laws. what part of that is gun safety? with all of that said, do you think the nra does have an opportunity to make things different here? >> 100%. i think any group, person, individual, whatever, can make a change and turn things around in order to create a positive outcome. and i look to them and challenge them to do the same thing. i believe the initial response/comment needed to be reviewed a lot more, especially
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since there is no reason to co-op or try to steal back a color when we're using the color to preserve human life. to continue to say that we have respect people who have died and who have been, you know, put in this position regardless wherever they're at, these are innocent people. if you can turn this into a fighting, you know, arguing match, then that's complete insensitive to what we're trying to do here. >> all right. we've run out of time. it's been so good to talk to you this morning. thank you. >> good talking to you, as well. >> thank you. ahead, president trump's tariffs could affect many americans and raise the cost of items you buy every day. we're taking a look at the potential impact ahead. this weekend, united shades of america heads to historically black colleges and universities. here's a sneak peek. >> can i see some? is there anything you can show me? >> yeah. we can all -- >> we've got the '90s party
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including beer. >> a look at how the tariffs could impact american businesses and consumers. >> reporter: just as summer is set to kick off, one of america's biggest beermakers is warning their prices could be on the rise. the cost of a can of beer is tied to the price of aluminum. one of the biggest consumers of aluminum in the world is right here in golden, colorado. the miller coors corporation. the producer of some of the most iconic beer brands in america. >> that's a really old can. >> reporter: pete coors' uncle pioneered the can more than 60 years ago. >> new technology. first time it was done in the industry. >> reporter: today more than 65% of their product is sold in these cans. many produced in the largest can plant in the world which generates 13 million cans a day. while the overall cost of aluminum is only bumped up a small amount, an american industry surcharge called the midwest premium, an added cost to the price to account for shipping and storing aluminum to midwest cities, spiked close to
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140%. that spike is directly tied to the tariff announcement. a frustration for coors, a republican who held a fundraiser for president trump. >> and i love what the president's done in most cases. but the tariff is -- is basically a tax on people who use aluminum. >> reporter: phillip luck, an economist at the university of colorado denver, believes it is the tariffs themselves that will inevitably lead to higher beer prices. >> the main problem here again is the uncertainty generated about the tariffs. >> reporter: coors says half of their customers make $50,000 or less. according to luck, when it comes to beer, this policy could hurt working class americans the most. >> you could definitely make the argument that imposing these types of tariffs is going to hurt the types of people you claim to want to be helping. >> reporter: jim phillips is a union carpenter who prefers beer in a can in part because it's cheap. >> i'm not happy. i'm not going to be happy about it. >> reporter: phillips believes if beer drinkers recognize the price hike and connect it to
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president trump, it could lead some to re-evaluate their vote. >> by midterm election we'll see how it goes, what he does. does he stick with his plan for the tariff. >> reporter: chris johnson, manager of a tavern in denver, says those in search of refreshment might not notice the price going up. >> obviously economy's good. people don't complain about it as much. >> reporter: pete coors is hoping it doesn't come to that. he's spoken to pevice president mike pence and wilbur ross about his concerns regarding midwest premium. at this point there are no plans for the administration to interve intervene. >> thanks again to ryan nobles. ahead, as though traffic is not crazy enough in southern california, add this to the mix -- a small plane forced to land in the middle of a city street as drivers head home from work. the only fast, powerful heartburn relief plus melatonin so you can fall asleep quickly. ♪ oh, what a relief it is! (burke) so we know how to cover almost anything.en almost everything
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witnesses are calling it an absolute miracle. the pilot of a small plane says she was experiencing engine
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trouble and was forced to land at a busy southern california neighborhood right in the middle of rush hour. >> somehow, she didn't hit anything. or anyone. and walked away without a scratch. she was apparently perform something practice work at the time and didn't have any passengers. neighbors say she was calm, she seemed unfazed as she wait forward help to arrive. the faa is investigating. democratic senator elizabeth warren says she's not running for president in 2020 and is focussing on her midterm re-election where she won women's vote by 18% in 2012. >> nasty women are tough. nasty women are smart. and nasty women vote. >> she just tweeted out a thanks to supporters for electing her as the first woman to the senate from the commonwealth of massachusetts. our next guest is hoping to be the second to unseat elizabeth
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warren. beth lindstrom, former romney aide, now candidate for senate in massachusetts. good morning to you. >> good morning. thanks for having me. >> good to have you. let's go through a few of the stories of the day. first, north korea. an international arms control official tells cnn that the explosions we saw at punggye-ri, the nuclear test site, were a little more than propaganda. that they could not have done the damage that north korea wants the entire world to believe that it did by destroying these tunnels there. central question here, is the administration, is the u.s. being played by north korea? >> i think you have to step back and, you know, look into the forest from the trees. i think this is historic. everyone is speculating on all these nuances. if we have an opportunity for peace here, this is historic. and i think we should wait and see what happens. peace doesn't happen in a day.
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and so i'm glad the president is taking these steps. if we can get peace in the koreas, that's a wonderful thing. >> let's talk about these tariffs. you said that you'll be more pro business than elizabeth warren. do you submit the administration's tariffs against the eu, against mexico, against canada on steel and aluminum. the chamber of commerce says the trade policies threaten 2.6 american jobs. >> i believe in free markets and free trade but also fair trade. so i support some of the tariffs that might equalize us. they have to be short and targeted, but i think you have to make sure you have fair trade. >> short and targeted. in the conversation -- the president phrases this and frames this as a national security. is the import of steel and aluminum from canada a national security threat? >> well, i think what he's trying to do is get the jobs back in the united states.
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and if there is some unequal trade, i think that's what his motive is. i say i'm for fair trade but i'd like to see it shortened and then go away. >> let's talk about the race now. central to the question of a legitimacy for the run for the senate is how can a republican win in massachusetts? first you've got -- how close can you be to this president? let's put up a word cloud here. this was based on a survey conducted by wbur there. and the largest words, what surveyors heard is idiot, incompetent, childish, unfit, dangerous. these are the words to describe the president. so you can't be too close to the president if these are the words they're using. and you can't be too far because the president overwhelm league won the primary there and is still very popular in the republican party. how can you win in massachusetts? >> well, we've won before and i
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participated in many of those campaigns. >> i will agree with him when it's right for the people of massachusetts and i'll disagree when it's not. but i'll always respect the office of the president. i've been on boards of many executive teams. if you always check the box or never say anything, then you're not doing your job. i believe the people of massachusetts want somebody who is going to be independent thinker, get the data and make the right decision and speak for the people of massachusetts. that's what i want to do in washington. >> i've read you've disagreed on the three ts. that's tone, temperament and twitter. am i right there? >> yes, i've said that. i agree with a lot on his policy, tax reform. i think it's done great things. you've seen the lowest unemployment rates here in the country. i disagree on tone, temperament and twitter. sometimes i say just leave the last sentence off. >> let me ask you the question i asked your primary opponent jeff diehl last week. i want to play for you the president's discussion, some things he said if you win the
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election, your general opponent in the common wealth. >> did you ever hear pocahontas? it's pocahontas, elizabeth warren. she's not happy. she's the worst pocahontas. elizabeth warren? >> native american leaders have said the president's use of pocahontas is a slur. i know that the native american community there in massachusetts is important to you, will be important to you if you are fortunate enough to be elected to the senate. will you call on the president and do what your opponent in the primary did not last week to stop using pocahontas as a racial slur and epithet? >> i don't think anybody should be using racist comments or name calling. we should stand up on our own merits in this race. and i think that you saw elizabeth warren last night in her convention speech where she said she gets under people's
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skin and so both sides are doing some of this. where she says she's just beginning. this hyperpartisan behavior doesn't help us in massachusetts here to create relationships in washington. so all of that should be off the table. >> beth lindstrom, great to have you this morning. >> thank you. >> all right. so next hour, president trump is going to talk more about what exactly he expects from north korea. stay close. . oh! we'll alert you if we find your social security number on any one of thousands of risky sites, so you'll be in the know. ewww! being in the know is very good. don't shake! ahhh! sign up online for free. discover social security alerts. join t-mobile. and get netflix included for the whole family. so you can get lost in space in your own backyard... or get pumped up for your grand entrance. only t-mobile lets you watch your favorite movies and shows in more places, without paying more.
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