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that's alarming in and of itself. >> despite china's claims to the contrary, the placement of these weapons systems is tied directly to military use for the purposes of intimidation. >> sources say the white house is working on a possible summit between president trump and vladimir putin. how is melania? >> doing great. she's doing great. >> she's looking at us right there. >> this is "new day weekend." with victor blackwell and christi paul. >> good morning. the date and location are set. next up, planning for what should happen at the summit with north korean leader kim jong-un. >> president trump at camp david this morning preparing for what south korea is already calling the meeting of the century. other u.s. allies, though, not quite as optimistic about it. >> japan is warning against history repeating saying
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overnight, do not reward north korea for just agreeing to show up. >> live from singapore where it's stoet to take place in a little more than a week. we're also at the white house where we start with ryan nobles. what are you hearing from that vantage point? >> good morning. it seems in many ways the white house is dialing back expectations about exactly what is going to come out of that summit. and that was necessary in order for it to take place. you'll remember that it wasn't too long ago that president trump sent a now famous letter to the north korean leader kim jong-un saying the summit was off. there were no longer going to do it. despite sending that letter, the president continued to insist he wanted the sumit to take place on june 12th. this despite many in his administration and some prominent members of congress saying it was a bad idea to forge ahead. at the end of the day, the president has the most important opinion on this topic and he decided after a meeting in the oval office yesterday of more than an hour with kim yong chol,
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the former intelligence chief, a close deputy of kim jong-un, that the summit was going to go forward. it was a surprise to everyone when they emerged from that oval office meeting. a lot of the criticism leveled against the president is this is giving north korea everything they want and nothing that the united states wants. but the president said yesterday he still has some options on the table. >> one thing i did, do and it was very important, we had hundreds of new sanctions ready to go on. and the director did not ask. but i said i'm not going to put them on until such time as the talks break down. we had hundreds -- we have hundreds ready to go. but i'm not going to -- why would i do that when we're talking so nicely? >> talking nicely but clearly a veiled threat from the president there to kim jong-un that he has those sanctions at the ready if something goes wrong in the summit. the president saying this is not going to be the summit to end
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all summits, just a get to know you meeting. begin the process of serious talks about denuclearization. the president at camp david this morning with many members of his family, including his children, tiffany trump, donald trump jr. and his son-in-law jared kushner. not making the trip, melania, the current first lady. she is still recovering from that procedure that she had just a little while ago. >> what do you know about the potential for another summit with vladimir putin? >> the white house confirming to "the wall street journal" that they are in the early stages of a conversation with the kremlin to make that summit happen. a li lateral meeting between president trump and the russian president. john huntsman, the ambassador to russia, was here at the white house yesterday. he is said to be taking the lead in the negotiations for the summit to take place. president trump and president putin have only met in person on two different occasions and the
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president has been somewhat reluctant to be all that critical of russia. their role in the world and particularly how they are handling the situation in syria which would certainly be on the top of the list of discussion points if the summit were to take place. the journal reporting the white house and the president not really thinking all that much about this summit until they get everything clear with the north korea summit. after that, that's when they'll begin that conversation. this is still a long way off but the top line is they are talking, and they do want it to happen. >> ryan nobles at the white house. thank you. intelligence officials are now doubting what north korea said was a goodwill gesture when the regime claimed to destroy their nuclear testing site in front of a select group of journalists. >> remember, no experts were invited to that. joining us now, one of the journalists on that guest list, cnn correspondent will ripley. will live for us in singapore. so help us understand what
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people are saying in singapore. what is the feeling there about this meeting that's just ten days away now? >> well, obviously, they have a very limited amount of time to handle a lot of logistical challenges. accommodation, the venue, security, the infrastructure, controlling the press. what access, what photo ops. those are all details the north koreans and americans, logistical teams are on the ground here trying to figure out. journalists have been chasing them around the city trying to figure out where president trump will be staying, where kim jong-un will be staying. there are reports out there. nothing yet confirmed or officially announced. obviously, this announcement was made on the heels of that meeting in the oval office. the oversized letter about the size of a folded newspaper presented to president trump. a grandiose gesture. kim jong-un a fan of letter dip lo lomacy, trying to set the stage even though the question is can they agree to a definition of
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denuclearization. president trump is talking about sanctions if this meeting doesn't work, if things fall apart as opposed to his talk last year about the phase two military option against north korea that had a lot of people in this part of the world very concerned. >> will, i know this is happening as the u.s. is accusing china of intimidation. walk us through what's going on there. >> yeah, it was interesting when the u.s. defense secretary jim mattis spoke here in singapore. many expected him to go heavy on north korea. he didn't say a whole lot that made news but made news when he was talking about china and china's aggressive expansion into the south china sea, constructing permanent aircraft carriers. china landed its nuclear capable bomber on some of those artificial islands in the south china sea and the defense secretary saying that's clearly a ploy by china to intimidate its neighbors and, frankly, the united states by trying to restrict access to what the u.s. considers free waters, freedom
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of navigation. that's a word we heard thrown around a lot. listen to more from the defense secretary. >> china's militarization of artificial features in the south china sea includes the deployment of anti-ship missiles, surface to air missiles, electronic jammers and the landing of bomber aircraft at woody island. the placement of these systems is tied directly to military use for the purposes of intimidation and coercion. >> obviously, those weapons systems in place would pose a risk to u.s. assets in this region. the u.s. shows force by deploying large aircraft carriers but some of the missiles that could be launched from those artificial islands could be a major threat to american forces in the region. in private conversations that i've had here in singapore, while the united states is focused on the short-term issue of north korea, as we heard from the defense secretary, speaking here in the long term, the united states remains very much concerned about china's
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intentions down the road which is why they have insisted that they'll continue those freedom of navigation patrols, sailing u.s. warships close to those artificial islands despite the strong protests coming from beijing. >> will ripley, thank you so much, sir. while president trump is praising north korean leader kim jong-un, is he ignoring much of the history of north korea's murderous regime? that's ahead. also, you heard ryan mention it. the president is going to be at camp david with most of his family, minus the first lady. it's been 23 days since we've seen melania trump. where is she? psoriasis does that. it was tough getting out there on stage. i wanted to be clear. i wanted it to last. so i kept on fighting. i found something that worked. and keeps on working. now? they see me. see me. see if cosentyx could make a difference for you- cosentyx is proven to help people with moderate
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welcome back. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. president trump and this date with kim jong-un on june 12th, for now at least. the on again/off again/on again summit looks like it's going to go ahead. the president welcomed spy chief kim yong chol to the white house
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who had a letter for him from the north korean leader. very prominent there. this is in its effort to make sure the summit stays on track. in that is the trump administration ignoring north korea's history of human rights abuse? cnn's brian todd has details for us here. >> reporter: kim jong-un is on a roll. one of his top lieutenants, a man believed to have a lot of south korean blood on his hands and who led a major cyberattack on the u.s., met in the oval office with trump and in a remarkable moment got a handshake from the president. >> this is an amazing turn around in events. >> reporter: all the more amazing considering less than six months ago this violent, impulsive dictator was considered an international pariah. >> he was a leader who hadn't even met the president of china. and was very reclusive, much like his grandfather and his father. and really lived up to the
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moniker leader of a her mitt kingdom. >> reporter: at that time, cnn was even told plans were being drawn up for a possible u.s. military strike. then came kim's new year's day speech expressing his desire to soften relations with his enemies. the so-called olympic thaw with his sister extending a warm hand to moon jae-in. two meetings between kim and moon, including the optics of a groundbreaking summit, even holding hands and the announcement of a planned summit with president trump. >> we'll be meeting on june 12th in singapore. it went very well. >> reporter: there were two meetings with chinese president xi jinping and mike pompeo. and now the russians want in. arranging their mean meeting with vladimir putin. a crucial question now, what made kim change? >> the maximum pressure campaign, the sanctions regime against north korea has taken a serious bite out of the regime.
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kim jong-un has been quite desperate. >> most important, he now has the weapons. he has the weapons. and he has the delivery system. so he feels more confident. >> fueling kim's confidence, the fact that the u.s., south korea and china have been willing to look past his egregious human rights violations. >> we did not talk about human rights. >> you're talking about 5 to 6 political prison camps. 120,000 men, women and children held in political prison camps, pursuant with system of guilt by association, induced malnutrition, torture, public executions, kresecret skrugss. a regime that's investing heavily in its tools of death. >> reporter: a record that a veteran diplomat says trump and his allies might have to look past to reach the ultimate objective. >> if we are to lower the agenda to include denuclearization, human rights, we then have to
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include japanese abductees would be another example. biochem weapons, conventional weapons. it does get overcrowded. so i don't blame them for prioritizing denuclearization and security at the highest. >> one of the dangers of embracing kim jong-un as a statesman, veteran security experts warn that president trump, moon jae-in and their allies could lose sight of kim's ultimate objective, staying in power. and they worry the leaders kim is dealing with will look past the fact he'll do anything to stay in power, including possibly cheat on a nuclear deal or start a conflict. brian todd, cnn, washington. >> let's bring in patricia murphy. let's start where brian left off there. the president not talking about human rights with kim yong chol and just a maybe, that's as far as he'll go with a commitment to
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talk about ujune 12th. significance? >> i think it's very significant. past presidents have insisted a discussion of human rights inside north korea be a part of any negotiations and north korea has sent a signal that's a nonstarter. they don't want to have that conversation as a part of nuclear discussions. i think it's important that it shows another way that president trump is being unconventional. he's not requiring what american past presidents required before they started talking. he's willing to have north korean leaders in the oval office. he's making a number of concessions before they sit down to talk in the goal of talking. and even during his campaign, he made it clear he'd be happy to talk to north koreans. he disagreed with what americans have done in the past and it's relevant and very typical to donald trump. >> we had an analyst in the first hour here in the 6:00 a.m. hour who said kim jong-un has already won just because he's
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secured this meeting. is there credence to that? >> i think you can look at it from a number of ways. we've seen three americans be released from north korea recently. that was a big victory for the president. and i think that old standards don't apply at this point. north korea in the past several years has accelerated the nuclear program. it's much more sophisticated than it used to be. kim jong-un was much more aggressive in his missile demonstrations to show that he can and will try and reach america. so i think the dynamics have changed, and i think it's too early to criticize the president for changing his approach to it until we see what the result is because north korea has changed their approach, too. >> let's play some of the video from punggye-ri a few days ago. the explosions at the tunnels and some of the reporting that an international arms control expert tells cnn that these explosions, partially from the dust clouds, were too shallow to do what north korea wanted the world to believe they were doing by completely dismantling this.
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and the u.s. intelligence, according to the reporting from barbara starr, corresponds with that. have they undermined themselves going into these talks? this was not complying with a request. this was something they offered to the world. >> north korea are known professional propagandists. any american diplomat knows that going into this. but i think that we shouldn't take that as anything more than exactly what that is. i think we need to make sure that the president goes into this with his eyes open. i'm sure somebody like mike pompeo with his background at the cia is going in with his eyes open. it's very important we saw in those meetings it was secretary of state pompeo in that meet, not john bolton. there's a diplomatic team that has a steady hand but it s not naive as to what north korea's -- what their intentions are with a display like that.
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>> the president at one point we're hearing about fire and fury and this competition about nuclear weapons and the size of the nuclear buttons and whatnot between the two of them and then in the last 24 hours, the president saying, look, this is -- i want to get it right here. it's a getting to know you meeting plus. so he's dialed it back a little bit. how realistic? on the surface you may say he's trying to establish a relationship. how realistic might a real relationship be between these two men? >> we don't know. we absolutely no nothing going into this. these are two men unpredictable and seem to be making their own decisions from a gut level. so we don't know what the outcome is going to be. it's relevant and important the president is scaling back his ambitions verbally. before he was saying we're going to require and we fully expect immediate denuclearization. that's just not going to happen. and i think everybody knows that. it's smart to dial that back. that probably is secretary of state pompeo's influence on him. but we just simply don't know.
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it's important not to be naive to go into this assuming that this is going to lead to full denuclearization, but i think to most americans, it feels better than the president tweeting about rocket man in north korea. that was very destabilizing. >> good point. >> i think having a more subtle approach, that is not naive. that's -- >> part of his negotiations. >> yes. >> being a negotiator. >> north korea was not static. they were not sitting still on the nuclear ambitions. they were accelerating them n threatening the united states in the process. so the american tactics needed to change as well. >> patricia murmurphy, thank yoo much. still ahead -- the president and his kids head to camp david for the weekend. there is a really present absence there. the first lady. she hasn't been seen in 23 days.
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how's melania? >> she's doing great. right there. she's looking at us right there. >> that was the president several days ago. the last time he mentioned the first lady in public there. there's been no sign of the first lady in more than three weeks. melania trump did not go to camp david with the president and the family this weekend. he was joined by his children when he left washington here yesterday. melania trump was treated for a benign kidney condition in may but has not been seen in public since which has a lot of people wondering about her whereabouts. she tweeted, i see the media is working overtime speculating on where i am and what i'm doing. i'm at the white house with my family feeling great and working hard on behalf of children and the american people. joining me is hufgton post reporter laura bassett. the tone of that tweet looks familiar, but let me ask you
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what the explanation is from the white house. if she's doing work, why we have not seen her. >> exactly. i think that tweeting was an interesting way to end the speculation. it seems like all she needs to do is step outside of the white house, just show her face to prove that she's fine and prove that everything is as she says she is. instead she gives off this tweet which sounds more like her husband. she jabbed at the media a bit. that's not something melania usually does. instead of ending the speculation, it fanned the flames. >> there some are who say she doesn't owe us an appearance because she wasn't elected. she's not a federal employee. in fact, cnn contributor a.b. stoddard wrote this for real clear politics. she wrote missing melaniagate needs to end now. she doesn't need to resurface at an event.
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they need to just let her be. what do you say to those who say it's not our business where the first lady is. >> people were pawing through michelle obama's trash when she was first lady. melania is not just donald trump's wife. the first lady, it is her job to be seen, to be present, to participate. every first lady before her has done so. no one has ever disappeared for 23 days before. this is a conspicuous amount of time. it's fair to ask these questions. where is she? why is the white house not being honest about what's going on. >> we should also point out for those who say she deserves her privacy, certainly she does. she is someone who, again, is not a public official but the federal taxpayers pay for the home in which she lives. the cars and planes in which she's transported. she manages a staff of federal employees, of ten. and if anyone were to ask where is the boss of these ten people,
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this group of federal white house employees, and we were to ask where is this person, to simply send out a tweet saying i'm okay, things are fine, we probably would not accept that from anyone else working in the white house. let me ask you if this being the new normal. we know this was not a role that melania trump initially wanted. should we expect that she'll be more private moving forward? >> you know, i wouldn't be able to answer that question for her. i will say melania has always been a little more independent than other first ladies. there was speculation at the beginning of donald trump's presidency as to whether she'd remain in new york. she didn't want to move to d.c. she was clear about that. she has at times not appeared at her rallies, done separate motorcades. she has been a more independent first lady. this is just really interesting timing because she's had a more high-profile month leading up to this disappearance. she rolled out her be best campaign. hosted the state dinner everyone was talking about her fashion
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choices, her approval ratings have been ticking up. it's just really interesting that right now she's suddenly disappears. i don't know what it means going forward. >> we know that she had that benign kidney operation, and she has recovered from that. so we hope the first lady is doing well and we hope to get more on her whereabouts and condition. laura bassett, thanks so much. hawaii's kilauea volcano, obviously, was a huge tourist draw at one point. now it has just devastated that island and that industry. we'll talk more about that in a moment. stay close. i was a c130 mechanic in the corps, so i'm not happy unless my hands are dirty. between running a business and four kids, we're busy. auto insurance, homeowner's insurance, life insurance policies. knowing that usaa will always have my back... that's just one less thing you have to worry about. i couldn't imagine going anywhere else. they're like a friend of the family.
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we have some dramatic new video to share with you of hawaii's kilauea volcano crater. >> more than 80 homes have been destroyed since the volcano began erupting four weeks ago.
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hawaii's civil defense has issued new evacuation orders for several neighborhoods on the big island. the lava is threatening to trap some people. but it's not just people and property as miguel marquez reports, kilauea is also taking a toll on hawaii's bottom line. >> reporter: lava. typically a draw to hawaii's big island, now fountaining 200 feet in backyards. >> this is insane. >> reporter: devastating homes, the land and the economy of those living close enough to hear it roar. >> we're used to lava but not used to it coming out in our subdivisions. >> reporter: amadeo runs two businesses in pahoa. he also heads up the tourism board. >> how much is tourism down? >> i'd say 80% to 90%. >> 80% to 90%? over the last three weeks?
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>> since the event began. >> reporter: pahoa sits just outside the exclusion zone. leilani islands and gardens where the lava so far shows no signs of slowing down. >> for the people here, meaning southeast kilauea, puna, it is very bad. ♪ >> reporter: sitting below the eruption's orange glow, a popular student. typically packed. not these days. >> we had to cut our staff, reduce hours. we even have to shut down every tuesday. >> we ship anywhere. >> reporter: for people here, it's like being hit twice. the lava destroying their homes, tourists staying away, damaging their livelihood. the impact to the entire island, unclear. arrivals by plane to the big island are up 25%, but future
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hotel bookings are down. its national park has been closed for weeks and norwegian cruise line has decided to forgo weekly stops in hilo at least for now. all of it costing millions. >> i think a lot of people are not fully aware of the island. so far it's covered 2,000 to 3,000 acres but this acre is 4,000 square miles. >> reporter: it really is a big island. ♪ where life goes on, even in the shadow of kilauea as the community hopes the volcano goddess pele takes a breather soon. ♪ miguel marquez, cnn, pahoa, hawaii. in southwest colorado, a wildfire has forced more than 800 families from their homes. >> 750 others are under
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pre-evacuation orders. officials say the 416 fire has already scorched about 1100 s and they've declared a local state of disaster. the county has been facing these extreme drought conditions here and obviously that's what's contributing there. could the president's cell phone be a target of spies? according to a new government study, they say, yes, it could. >> it found cell phone surveillance devices have been detected near the house and it could be a potential national security threat. here's jessica schneider. >> reporter: a study just released it revealing the presence of cell phone spying devices around d.c., including near the white house. this spying technology which is often known by its brand name stingray was discovered by the department of homeland security during a study in 2017. it had been previously reported that some of the devices were discovered around d.c. but this is the first time we're hearing they were also near the white
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house. now these devices they essentially act as fake cell phone towers as mobile devices connect to them. the entities operating them are able to snoop on the traffic that goes through them. they can intercept phone calls, access some text messaging that isn't encrypted and plant malware on the phones they pick up. this is creating particular concern because of our reporting from multiple sources that the president has increasingly been using his personal cell phone to talk with friends and even to tweet. a senior white house official insists that the president's phone is secure but a democratic senator ron wyden is now demanding telephone companies and the federal communications commission act to stop any potential spying, especially because, as he puts it, the president and his personal phone could be a target of foreign intelligence services. the fcc, though, declined a previous request from democratic lawmakers to investigate other devices that were found around
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washington. the fcc at that point said there was no evidence yet those devices were being unlawfulfully used. law enforcement has already done some investigation. they've determined at least some of the devices and the signals came from legitimate devices. but it appears, of course, there are lingering questions about whether any foreign entities may have set up any of these spying devices. jessica schneider, cnn, washington. as if traffic is not crazy enough in southern california, right, add this to the mix. a small plane forced to land in the middle of the street. this looks worse than i thought. mike and jen doyle?
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in this week's impact your world, rugby is helping students around memphis build character and succeed in school. >> rugby just doesn't build character. it reveals character. it does that for our kids. >> one, two, we ready for you. three, four -- >> this is memphis inner city rugby. we're operating and serving six schools. nearly 200 kids around the city. boys and girls. in the communities we're bringing rugby to, so many of the kids are lacking outlets in life and pathways to opportunities. >> we have to have a certain gpa. there's zero tolerance with the attitude. >> partnering with teachers allows us to fuse mentoring for these kids along with coaching them. >> scholarship eligible. 5,000 bucks, boom. living on campus now. at 24. >> 100% of our kids have been
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accepted to college or university. now a couple handfuls have earned college rugby scholarships. >> i absolutely adore my coach. sometimes you don't think you can do something until somebody pushes you to do it and then you're like, i just did that. what else can i do? >> a fantastic job like we always tell you. >> who really needs a sport. we leverage love for a game and accountability to a mentor to go the right direction. >> so witnesses are calling this an absolute miracle. the pilot of a small plane says she was experiencing some engine trouble and was forced to land in a busy southern california neighborhood right in the middle of rush hour. >> she didn't hit anything or anyone and walked away without a scratch. there were no passengers on board, and the faa is investigating. >> glad she's all right. the epic romance of former president bush and barbara bush is living on even after she's
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passed. bush 41 tweeted this message. enjoying a great book and a wonderful walk down memory lane this morning. yet another reminder of just how lucky i've been in life. >> it includes a tweet of the 93-year-old bush holding a copy of "george and barbara bush, the great american love story." he's in the hospital for low blood pressure and fatigue. >> wishing him the best. >> we'll see you back here. "smerconish" starts now. ♪ >> i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. we welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. roseanne goes too far and gets canceled. but samantha bee still got her job so president trump is complaining about a double standard. he's right. but not for the reason he thinks. and unemployment is down to

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