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in from fans andelebriti alike. many talking about the very first bags they got. >> for aoneuffering out there, the number for the national suicide prevention hot line is 1-800-273-talk. they provide free confidel support to people in suicidal crisis or emotionalort.there iss a day, seven days a week. that's it for us. we'll be back to cover the primaries. right now i hand it over to chris cuomo for cuomo prime time. thank you. i am chris cuomo. welcome to prime time. why did the president cancel his ing with the eagles? is he really trying to divide the country over freedom of speech because it may help him politically? we have anthony scaramucci here. does he see this as winning? plus, president trump'sucation commission tasked with keeping your kids safe at school won't
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be looking in to the role of guns. what? and bill clinton gates do-over on the monica lewinsky question. what did he say this time? what do you say? let's get after it. let's call it the eagle debacle. facts first. the white house says presideng up for the national anthem. but not one single eagle knelt in protest during the national anthuring the regular not one. and yet president trump disinvited the whole team from coming to the white house today. had a celebrating america ceremony instead. had military there and some alleged eagle fans, some of whom couldn't name the team's quarterback. and then accused the eagles of pulling a political stunt. anothe tangled wm the white house? another play at the country? maybe anthony scaramucci can help us figure out how this is
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good for the country. friend of the show, thank you for being with us. >> congratulations on the show. wish you great ccessful. >> do you like this movef disinviting the eagles? >> well, i think you have to step back and look at the totality of the facts. you have to go back to the owner's decision about what it meant to stand or kneel for the national anthem. then what happened was some of the eagles players, aps, because of some of that decision disaffected from the white house decision. so there were 10 or 15 eagles that would show up at the white house rather than 50 eagles and the president thought that was probably too small of a quorum of eagles and it was probably a symbolic protest as a result of the nfl owners' decision. so the combinhe president made a decision to cancel the invitation and then to go with the celebration of the flag. >> we know what did he. the question is why he did it.
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>> s going t disagree with me perha on this and i have said this publicly and i don't mind saying it on your show. i have no problem with the peace and social justice movement and em consistently has beenplayers. with the venue. they're beingaid to be on the field. the nfl is super tied into our military. i've been to our air bases, our military support bases in iraq and afghanistan and the troops love the nfl. so it is a little dishonoble to me, me personally, that they're kneeling. i think the president takes that it way. i have no problem protesting, find venues to do this. clearly the nfl can work the players outside of the arena. >> i've heard this before. it is not an uncommon argument. >> this is the president of the united states. what he's saying is, i'm going to punish you if you have a different opinion. i'm going to disinvite from you the people's house. there's no trump on it in gold.
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he's saying, you don't come here. it is a move of division and isolation of a group of people that he has deemed unpatriotic. how is that presidential or good for the country? >> so again, he is the temporary occupant of thatouse. respect. to give him some ife 45 or 50 people and 35 of the 50 people disaffect from college to the house -- >> he called sons oftche wh should not be in the country. an obvious racial undertone. >> you're a new yorker and i'm a new yorker. sometimes we use hyrbole. >> thedent of the united states. you have to understand how he got to be president of the united states. he got by practicing in an unorthodox s and he the by explaining to the american people the current shenanigans that go on in washington are not to their favor. >> and -- >> and let me finish.
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now 500 days later, he's done a very very good job for the americanople. yogree everything he does and you obviously don't agree -- >> it's not about agreeing or not. you have to scrutinize. you had to add another phrase, why he won. and, comma, he played thetypes intentions. we have reporting from the white house right now that he sees this as a winning issue for him. if he campaigns on, there he is saying one simple thing. y don' way say you should, you're not a patriot. you're an enemy. that's not good for this country. >> the way you're phrasing it, obviously. >> how do i have it wrong? >> you're phrasing it in a way that i think is incorrect. >> give me an example. >> the president is saying, i think the same thing i'm saying. totally fine with the first amendment,ith protests of things you disagree
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with. with social justice. in that venue as it relates to the nfl and the relationship the nfl has with our military and the aura, the cultural symbol of the nfl. >> it is not about how he feels about it. it is how he say and -- you just said the same point three times. i get that he doesn't like the venue. >> i'm really trying to answe your estion. is notrying on divide the country. he is trying to uppnite the country around this idea that the flag is held sacred. we should have an unconditional love of the country. as link on that that, it is the last best hope for mankind. every one of us has had an aspirational success with the country. there's been the slave of slavery, some levels of police brutality. i'm not saying it is perfect but it is way better than the other alternatives in the world. and all the president is saying is that we should have
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unconditional love for the flag and we should support it together. whatever our differences are, whatever we need to protestlet'. i think that's unifying. dividing. >> your problem, my friend. that's not what he's saying. he's saying if you don't addres. the flag is a symbol of m. the keysto of freedom is freedom of speech and expression. >> invite him on your show. i don't think he's saying that. >> first the president is invited to come any time he wants. it isn open invitation any time he wants. he probably won't. >> you can't tell me -- listen. he's the president of the united states. being irritated is part of the job. dealing with hard questions is part of the job. he is taking a different path. here's what i'm saying. >> i don't ny of that.toand his
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go on as many networks as possible. he is a tell igs have star and he has an unbelievable force with his personality. he can handle any situationhe h >> and yet >> maybe he will. an evolution process. >> let's deal with the future in the future. you said he's trying to unify. i don't understand that on the facts. how is it unifying to say if you don't exercise your freedom of speech, i will disinvite from you the white house. >> now you're being unfair. you're relating to that off the cuff interview outside the ms 13 meeting where he was cuffing it, as he's sometimes prone to do. he doesn't -- he said it multiple times. he wants them to have an unconditional love of the flag and tonize the symbol that represents for us.
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on a memorial day, a veterans day, when you see the painful sacrifice people have made and you walk the halls of the hospital, the people who have died for that flag,he ident is unconditional love for the country. salute the flag. let the protest in different venues away from the sacredness of the flag. >> tunconditional love of the country is expressed in freedom. you ask veterans how they feel about what's going on and you will see that there is no clear majority of the saying, we hate his. protesting. many say they fought for this. >> you're on the pay roll of cnn. will you enter into a peaceful justice movement here at cnn without the consent of your employer? you're on the pay roll. >>s about that b the relationship between player and
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the nfl. it's been the president of the united states. >> hey, i heard cuomo decided to form his kind of protest. i don't like it. i think he is a bad guy. he should be out of the country. he is not an american and an possibly to the president. do you think that's okay? >> no. >> you're now silly puttying the story. >> i haven't moved it -- >> let me give you a better metaphor for you. you're stretching story and co to it narrative that isn't accurate. you're on the field. you represent the nfl. you're tied into our military. you're a cultural toteum for our sight. show some respect for the flag. many people died over that. >> that's your opinion. >> that's also the nfl owners' opinion. >> and they created their open rules. >> you're eliminating some 'm not. here's the elimination of facts. they decided, maybe 35 of them,
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maybe 40 ofthem. not to show up at the white house. >> do they have the right to do that? >> they do. why doesn't the president have the right to say okay, we dome have a full quorum of the philadelphia eagles. you're having a protest relat to this. i don't want the news cycle, of course, we're doing it right now on your show. i don't want the news cycle to be about this. i'm going to have a peaceful celebration. >> in my temporarily residing backyard. >> we're going to talk about this. does this president ever have to be the better man? does he have to rise above any slight? any perceived indignity? >> here's the problem. i'm going to answer qu in a way that will surprise you. i'll say of course he does. but here's the problem with the whole narrative. he is taking in 93, 90% enemy
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incoming constant barrage of attacks, barrage of criticisms, we don't give him confidence on anything. he's about to meet the north korean president. he's working on the middle east. themys rising so let's talk about real economic data. we have the lowest african-american hispanic unemployment in the history of the universe. >> you're saying because he's doing good things, it is okay if he does bad things. >> i'm not saying that. i'm saying, he's counter punching against a very heavy onslaught of negative incoming. >> he gets peace on the peninsula. i said when the first word came out. i said this is a huge if. if it happens, this is t stuff of a nobel peace prize. >> can i get invited back on that night? >> god willing. this is a man and an administration that does what you're doing. it doesn't matter what we do
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wrong. look what we do right. >> with all due respect,his is the second night on the show. be super respectful. what you're saying is totally unfair to what i am saying. you said number one, should the president a better person? yes. he has to rise to higher ground and be a better person. why is he having a hard time doing that in situations like this? and i answered it. i said he's having a hard time because he's getting a 90% hard time from the media and no one is giving him credit. >> i think we see it here where he is saying bits it is about the anthem. >> i'm getting a ph.d. in psychiatry. >> it is not about personality. bits whether he tells the truth. i don't care about personality. i care whether he tells the truth to the american people matters that are important. that's not psychology. >> you're like everybody else in the media. the president is a liar.
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the president is a liar. >> when you lie, why shouldn't you be called a liar? there aref communication. >> lying is not a style of communication. >> different styles. 63.5 million people voted for him because they get the gist of what he's talking about. i think they voted for him despite what they would call in their own livlying. i think if you were to ask people, if you say that the eagles are disinvited because of how they protested during the anthem and not one of them needle, is that telling the truth? no. >> that's a little bit of gas lighting. because you're talking aboyear'. they didn't protest. but i'm talking about the decision that was made by the nfl owners. and then ultimately after that decision, 35 or so of them defected from invitation to the white house. >> they say they defected because they don't like trump. they think he's misogynistic and a liar. that's why lebron said this.
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>> it's typical of him. i'm not surprised. no mat here wins this series, no one wants the invite anyway. th have received from the president of the united states. it was an important context. you said i'm not the one who said shut up and dribble. your friend atfox. >> i respect his right -- >> nice to hear that. >> i respect his right to say what's on his mind at a press conference. he has that right. then you can't say at the same time, if he's saying that, the president doesn't have a right too. it is about symmetry. >> bits how you use your rights. bits doing what's right. >> i like calling balls and strikes. if lebron james is saying that and stephan curry is saying that and there is a problem with discontent in the united states, the ident, before he was
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president, was a unifying person. he had great relationships with the rap communitat relationships with nfl athletes and african-american athletes. let's put it back together. >> don't forget the central park five. >> we'll go back 30 years. does that matter? or no? >> his second night on the air. i'm trying to give him something here. you're not going to say -- >> you're not going to say he's a par five. with what did he with birtherism. how can you call him a unifier? >> maybe you'll be smart enough to never run for office. if you run for office, they'll examine every syllable and every moment of your life. maybe you'll come out more perfect than donald trump. here's what know about him and everyone else. bill clinton, everybody, they're flawed. this is about --
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you still have to be judged. >> the american people, warren buffett said something that i always apply. i would rather be roughly right than precisely wrong. the american people have looked at the president. they voted for him. they said he will get most things roughly >> didn't get a majority of the country. he is underwater his ratings. >> that was because that was not his strategy. he looked at the playing field. that was a little bit hindsight. nobody said during the campaigning, we have a strategy to not get the majority of the country. >> i want to check a couple boxes. >> the other team didn't to go wisconsin. >> they went. they made mistakes. that's about going something -- >> secretary clinton did not go. >> he's the president. >> truth matters. >> my message to the president, assuming that he hate watches your show, my message is, you're a healing sort of guy.
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you can unite. this you can figure it out. you' very good strategist. take step back. if stephen curry and lebron james and the reelgs saying the same thing. meet them in the middle. that would be my message to the presidwhet house or on television. >> and you have a huge fraction of the african-americans in this country that feel isolated. >> we have to put the country together. >> this is not a way to do it. >> he would say, listen, my economic policies are really helping people. we have the latest rates of unemployment. >> but what you say and who matters -- truth matters most. sadler, kel sadlas go today. >> disappointed in that. >> when she said what she said about john mccain, the joke, he is going to die anyway, why does he matter. the white house never came out and said that's wrong. they then get rid of her. it comes out, they still don't
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say what she said was wrong. the reason she was fired was not because of what she said about john mccain. it is because she reportedly that that mercedes -- they fired her over that. do you respect all that? >> well, let me say a couple things about kelly sadler. she was a very hard working person. she was extremely loyal to the . fon in that communications team have been pea shooting at each other. it required leadership to knit that team together and to think about at this time way a corporate leadership would go down. a faction on the rit, on the left, they were shooting at each other and someone had it out f kelly sadler. it's a sorry joke, an i'm not here suggesting the statement is okay but as someone who has run a pretty decent corporation, when you're sitting in the inner sanctum, someone says that, to run outside the
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sanctum and rath rat on that person, that's a terrible thing to do. >> not a private concern. this is america's standards. >> yes. but somebody could have said, hey, bad thingo say. let'p rig he they had it out for her. they have to go outside. get their cell phone and anonymously rat her out. why not do what do i? hey, this is how i feel about the situation. i dis kelly sadler. i'm going to tell you what she said about john mccain of the that's why the people -- >> speaking truth to the american people. >> the president wears a lot on his sleeve. >> anthony scaramucci. >> nice to be here. and kelly sadler is a great person. >> we haven't heard anything from the white house to see if they can confirm it. i can is a, you're important to the show. important to the dialogue. >> i'm happy to be here.
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get after it. joining u for more on thoe war , we have van jones and david urban. night two of the show. thank you for being part of it. >> thanks for having me. >> all right. brother urban, the president disinviting the eagles. is this another play at dividing the country along racial lines at a minimum? >> come on. not e close. the eagles chose to make this a political issue. the president invited them. they could have come down. they could have stood there and celebrated like all teams have done in the past. they chose to draw a line in the sand and not come because of what this president has said in the past. because of his political views. the eagles chose to make this a political issue, not the president. >> why couldn't the president be better, couldn't elevate himself and remember that he is president. >> because ten people are coming. he pantsed the eagles before
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they answer thatted him. >> van jones, is that a pantsing? or something worse? >> this is ridiculous. first, let's be very clear what happened here. the president of the united states decides to punish the entire team because some of the members didn't want to come. >> hold on -- >> he's punis team because some of the pe didn't want to come. but the people he's punishing who didn't want to come didn't even do what they said he did because they didn't kneel. he is so far down the rabbit hole. there is a resentment here against the nfl. and nobody, i have to say this nobodyas happier than me, by the way, when philadelphia won. because tom shady brady, who deflated balls and is somehow a hero, gets to play, and colin kaepernick who never did anything but try on stick up for civil rights, can't even get on the field.
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when tom shady brady wentdown, a lot of americans were v happy when this went down. a racial divide that they had this beef. and it is outrageous for him, outrageous for trump to punish the team for something that no one on the team did. >> first of all, to the spent e brade is relevant. he didn't show up at the white house. he had family issues. the team showed up. some chose not to you called it pantsing. my friend, this is why i gave you the downward look. these are issues. >> i get it. >> you don't practice patriotism way i like it, you're bad. that's dangerous talk for a president in a country talking about tolerance. >> i agree with the players' ability and the right to protest. i think we need to get past the protest and make some progress.
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bring the the nfl players association, i would be trying to make some real reforms rather than continuing on the sidelines. let me pick up the point that anthony made. the national anthem is about two minutes about, 120 seconds, depending on who sings it. if we can't as a nation agree to stand and be silent and think about that. >> oh, come. on the flag is a symbol of freedom. >> stop for a second. do you see this pin on my lapel? >> actually no. the election countdown up. >> i was at west point with my classmates honoring classmate john mccue who was killed by a bomber. do you know whas coffin was covered with? the american flag. >> that's jingoism. you're telling certain people -- >> do you believe participate at this. is jingo i? >> of course not.
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when you pervert it and say you're not the kind of patriot that i want you to be, that you're ini ammical to the cause. >> we heard you on this. let's bounce it back. van, the reason i wanted to do this, it ain't about football and it'sotbout the flag. this started as a social protest. no one has ever said i'm anti-flag. they said it is hard for me to honor the flag right now and with these issues that i'm so against. it was -- >> i'm a ninth generation american. my father was a veteran. try.teed anybody to tell me in what this flag means and what it represents. people in my family. people who look like me have put
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blood in the ground and martyrs in the dirt. to have it be liberty and justice for all. and it is beyond insulting, beyond insulting for people to lecture us about patriotism. we've done more -- no, no. you had your chance. >> go ahead. >> listen, there is a level of patronizing, fro but from white house and others, that somehow african-americans are ungrateful. that we somehow don't know what this country is about. we have fought in every war. we have sacrificed more for that constitution than most people. and if this man colin kaepernick can't kneel because a veteran, you're talking about, it was a veteran who told him to kneel. he was sitting on his butt and the veteran told him. colin kaepernick tried to do what they told him to do and he still doesn't have a job and it's wrong. if you can't says wrong,here's
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with you. >> wouldn't it be better if colin kaepernick were able to get the owners, and get the police, and get out in the community, and see -- >> he tried. >> wouldn't it be better if all those players and took all that energy to progress? >> counter point. >> by the way, first of all, with everything that's going on in this country, i like how the conversation is going. you're being reasonable. >> you get called on this s all the brother west do love you and respect you. one thing that has been left out of the right wing media coverage is that colin kaepernick has put millions of dollars and challenged other celebrities to put millions into neods. he's not just talking the walk. he's walking the walk. >> why don't we talk about that? i would love to talk about it. >> why won't the president talk about it? i think it is important to keep, who we're talking about and who we're not.
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i knowhat you agree with a lot of what van is saying. as a veteran and somebody who respects the freedoms of this country, you know we're about tolerance and lng people express themselves. >> there are restrictions on speech. >> and the nfl has their tohey what ty do. that's not what the president is playing at. he is call themons bitches. who is they that they're talking about? this is not uniting. he was supposed to be a uniter. you told me that. i naid .me. >> you're not easy. >> it's what is in them.
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>> do you believe this is the right move? say that they've wrong, say that they're not american. the president invited the on may 31, 80 plus members of the philadelphia eagles were showing up the eagles made the choice hered >>t think, i see it very, very differently. what the president is saying is that this is about the disrespect and the protesting. and theblem that you have is that those players, the ones who didn't come, the ones who wanted to come, none of them needle. >> he disinvited them. it is not his house. it's our house. he is supposed to represent tolerance. >> do you think if the president
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invited lebro and focus to come to the white house, do you think they would sit down? >> we've got lebron james. he is saying as an african-american athlete, he feels alienated. >> would they go? >> that they wouldn't go. we've had conversations with some of the players. they said if you want to talk about something serious like criminal justice reform, i think some of them would come. at some point, let me say this. i think the president of the united states has aortunity turn a eak-down into a break-through. using it as a political weapon may be short term pain. if he wants to have a conversation, don't forget. these young guys who are 23, 24 years old, every thanksgiving they go back to neighborhoods where something has gotten betterm eithe party.
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cld sit down and talk wit thes guys. instead, the grandstanding is short term >> so i would suggest, right? maybe around prison reform. you get a bunch of folks together. you take folks in. show what the president is he is not t devil incarnate as many think. i think could you be, you would be the tip of e on th e. >> that's the whole point. find the common ground. >> and i think van is a person respected on both sides. >> van jones is a good man. i watch his show. the president shouldn't need a proxy to reach out to americans. >> as i just asked. the president p the invite out and said, lebron. come on in. >> well, that's different. >> let's take next ste makecaus. we'll all do it together. >> i would love to have it.
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i'll take it every night. let me ask first, betsy devos. let's may the sound. the commission of firearms as it relates to gun violence in the schools. >> that's not part of the commissioner's charge. >> i see. so you're studying gun violence but not considering the role of. >> we'redying school safety and how we can ensure our students are safe. >> if you had hair, would you pull it out over this? you won't look at guns? whether you want to look at who controls guns and how to control them or whether or not you think more guns are the solution. certainly you can't ignore the role of the weapon in this equation. how do you justify it? >> it's worse than that. she said we won't even study it. so, that means even if a comprehensive clear headed study
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says guess what, none of these make bit of difference. even if would it validate your point of view. yo aren't e wil to have study. that gives you, that's a whole different level of dysfunction at the top of ourovernment have facts that may prove you right. there's something wrong with that. >> i'll push back on this a bit. n't thin that secretary devos said they won't look at it. i think she will look at things under their control.gun violenc schools. so is mental health preparedness. mental health awareness, funding, bullying. there are lots of root problems that need to be studied to figure out what's happening. as i've mentioned to you, when you and i were growing up, and growing up as kids, in western pennsylvania. guns were abundant and plentyively. no one went to school and shot anybody. what has changed? guns are less available and violence has increased.
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something has changed. >> so why not study all of it? >> from a fact perspective, she said it is not part of the charge of this commission. >> ri>>ow can you have a commit that studies school shootings and not study -- >> it's worse than that. why the commission formed in the first place? >> it sounds better when you said it. >> if you push the rewind, listen t what senator leahy asked18-year-olds should be able to purchase ar-15s. >> but we wound up in the same place. >> she said it's not my job. >> it is senator leahy. >> it shows the commission isn't set one the integrity it should have been. especially if you're going to of it up as solution. there's a lot of common ground when it comes to making the schools safer. if we're going to hide from the entire issue of gun violence by looking at school shootings when
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they're only 1.5% of the problem, you should take it seriously. >> i would say take a look at sandy hook promise. out of newtown. but our government should be in the lead. not hiding. >> last piece of sound. our former president clinton made af wf the wrong kind by saying he wouldn't do anything different where monica lewinsky was involved. changed his disposition.y - stephen colbert gave a redo. >> here's what i want to say. it wasn't my finest hour. the important thing is, that was a very painful thing that happened 20 years ago. and i apologized to my family, to monica lewinsky and her family, to the american people. i meant it then and i meant it now. i've had to live with the consequences every day since.
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and i still believe this me too moment is long overdue, necessary, and should be supported. >> reaction from both. did he make it better or worse? >> better. he got a redo. i take him at face value. i think he made it better. >> van jones? >> i work with a lot of young guys who make mistakes. the one thing we want them to say is the pain i caused. not this happened, the incident. i would have wanted him to the first time, the second time. i'm never going to stop apologizing.i will never stop a. own and it be that example to other guys. i think came up wayhort the last time. if he were one of the young guys in my program -- >> he made it much better the first time. but we're about progress. and this is something where the pain that has been caused to others by people in his position --
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>> the question is did he apologize personally? >> he said no. let me tell you something. brother urban, brother jones, you're making this show better. you're making us fulfill our imagine date of helping female get after what's right and wrong. thank you for doing it on the second night of the show. >> appreciate that. ahead, wepolitics. we have to do policy. the president's latest move on trade. has people very angry within his own party and the other party. we have the man who is telling him this the right thing to do. we're very luck yes to have peter. n oand hotels.com rewards me basically everywhere. so why am i doing goat yoga at this mountain resort? because hotels.com lets me do me. ahhh. the smell of goat. hotels.com. you do you and get rewarded. mom? dad? hi!a very mnt inn unreasonably narrow fast food drive thru lane.
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is the united states spoiling to start a trade war with frids and foes? if so, we would have never rely seen anything like this in the modern era. could it t balance of powe that we've known in a generation. let's break it down. i know kit seem very complex but there are some simple points. we have our friends, canada, mexico, u.k., germany and others where we've tried to have
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beneficial alliances. now we've had our foes. china is the big one when you look at unfair trade practices, theft of intelle property. now we have this weird thing where you have these two swapping sides. you have the united states saying we'll give them a very hard time. we'll figure out how to make it a little easier. why? the president says, b i'm and t weak for too long. our intellectual property. our workers. where we have to teal with terrorists abroad. very dicey. what's the proof of that? ir man has already achieved something unheard of. unity among republicans and democrats. they really are in big numbers, united against the plan. they say the two arms of this plan is veryweak. so the case needs to be made to you. let's do it with somebody who knows it very well.
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okay? the white house trade adviser peter navarro is here on prime time. good to have you on the show. >> you have to spend a little more money a bter board there. >> i like thech. this is thef problems. but i'll take it under advisement. >> by the way, congratulations. the looks great. i think your show will be great. so congratulations. >> high praise appreciated. good to have you be part of it. let's get aftit. the idea of invoking trade measures that are negative against friends a foesme time. why a good idea? >> so let's start with first principles here. we have steel and aluminum tariffs that went into place for one simple reason. as president trump h said,witho industries in this country, we don't have a country. so the faced from a policy point of view is how do you do that? the problem is we have about 20 countries flooding our markets with steel. about 15 flooding our markets
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with aloom number. so tariffs are the answer. they're not aimed at any individual country, whether it is a strategic rival like china or an ally and frien l canada. they're a defensive mre in order to aut stand. and we have that, chris. it is important to note since those tariffs were announced, we've had $150 billion announcement by century aluminum. we've had new plants open by u.s. steel on friday. we had a $1.5 billion rolling mill, aluminum rolling mill, in appalachian. just a great achievement by this administration. >> let's test it a little bit. the idea of, we'll make our own and that will make up for the imbalance. you know that's a minority theory. >> imbalance. >> whatever short coming there is, whatever supply we lose, we'll make up for it with more
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jobs at home and the companies will be revitalized. that's an ambitious proposal. would you have to other effects. let's get to the economics and then the politics. one is you raise prices. >> the down stream effect. sure. >> that is part of the economic theory. the second one is, they find other markets. so do you this to the chinese and they just sell these same properties. in a very transferable market to other places. theyl make their money. >> so we don't care if china makes their money or canada makes their money. what we care about is having viable steel and aluminum industries. for the last ten years, these industries have logs over 50,000 jobs. that's all we're trying to >> well, the best way to do is it through tariffs. it works. let's look at results here,
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chris. we turnhese two industries around in two heart beats. we've seen it happen with so lar star riffs and dish washing. everyone talked about price reflux. the additional cost that you get from the tariffs on steel and aluminum in is about the cost of a floor, mat, it's nothing. i think the president is doing exactly the right thing on this issue. the allies that are complaining, we can go down list and talk about how germany's taking advantage of us, how canada's taking advantage -- >> i understand, but from a political perspective, you can lay out the -- the politics here are going to loom large. you have the allies who aren't happy. you have a chance of retaliation by the chinese and others, which is being suggested by all of
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them, which exactly create an issue. and have your own party. let's listen to sound from them. >> he's abusing the authorities given to him. want to punish our allies -- >> trade wars and dividing us from our allies makes no sense. >> i am nervous about getting into trade wars. >> i think it's dangerous whether you go in and start picking winners and losers. >> the has strong held views on economy, i disagree with them. >> tha your man, mitch mcconnell, they never disagree with lim on anything and they're saying, i don't like it. >> president donald j. trump is supporting american workers and american people, that's who his constituency is. you know what's interesting about the job reports on friday, chris, it was a complete
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validation of policy that basically said, there's millions of americans on the g are destitute and hurt. there are over 3 million jobs that trump's appeals have created since the first 500 days. all a million of people were people who weren't in the work force and being counted because they were so discouraged. the president is proud of that, frankly. his tack policy, regulation policy, trade policies are working. this is what the president stands for and this is what we're working towards. the bigger thing, chris, because i know time's short. the oth thinge should drill down on is the china is the president wants to defend our technologies and intellectual properties. china's taking it in four different ways -- >> let's have you come back so we can drill on it. it's not a quick conversation. obviously who's going on with
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zte, the big telecom company which is a major thief when it comes to our property. it seems like they're getting a break on that. let's drill on that. i'll invite you back because the conversation matters. thank you very much for taking the opportunity. appreciate it. don lemon standing by with a preview of "cnt." always a pleasure what do you have? >> i won't keep you long. i believe that progress and real change happens in this world when we reach across a divide, you embrace what you don't understand and ultimately you surrender. do you need who wrote those words? >> who is it? >> he is ar nfl player, he is white. he is offended because colin was sitting on the ben. . he said, hey listen, i'm in the military, i'm offended by that, guess what, colin kaepernick already comprised, instead of
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sitting on the bench he took a knee. perhaps someone in the white house should takee from that. he's going to be on our shoat and talk about that. ill be watching. don lemon, thank you. earlier in the show i told you this was a two-way street. let's start that con zero tonight. you disagree with anything i've said, get on social media, follow me on twitter and follow the show. you get the floor. next. . (vo) now get up to 50% off our best phones. like the samsung galaxy s9 and google pixel 2. only on verizon. ♪ ♪ no matter when you retire, your income doesn't have to.
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telling me i'm wrong. please tell you won't be wearing the -- first of all this is my executive producer. those are the tweets. we're going to go one on one with right and left for you tomorrow. tomorrow's show, sarah sanders and chuck schumer. that's it for us. "cnn tonight" with don lemon starting now. i think we were looking at our text messages there. >> please carry on. >> great show. thank you. good seeing you. this is "cnn tonight" i'm don lemon. it is election night in america. on the most important night tonight this year, the polls will close in one ho from now, cnn will be watching it for the next four hours for you. the results there in california will have a human impact on whether the democrats could retake the house in the 2018 midterms. you'll want to stay with us for all those

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