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right here in the nation's capital. >> i need one. i need one now. i'm curious, the term house smoked. outside of these -- i've never heard it before. what is it? >> used to be a breakfast sau sausage. >> very limited in this area. that's our number one thing, what people love. >> i get it. that's not a hot dog. that's another creature entirely. so good. now, optimum conditions i'm told for coming here is when you're really drunk, late at night. >> drop by here on u street at night, there's a line going out the door. >> all right, today with us is the owner of ben's chili bowl. you saw him in that clip with anthony, and anthony was like, no, don't call it a hot dog. wow, what a treat. you have a picture in your window today of your visit with him. >> we do.

it hurts so bad. and our condolences to you and the cnn family. he really felt like part of our family just in that time he was there with us, because he's such a sweet and gentle soul. >> everyone feels that. if you didn't have the honor of being in his presence, in his company, watching his show, we've heard it from so many people who felt like they knew him, and he really compelled people to get to know each other, you know, by not just breaking bread, but looking at the culture in the food that was being presented and looking at each other and enjoying each other's company, understanding. >> very true. speaking of his show in d.c., so when he came to d.c., it was interesting, we got the call he wanted to come and do the show there, just blown away, right? this was months in advance. then they called back again to say they had to cancel, and i said, oh, my god, so sorry, but please when you come to d.c., i hope that you come to ben's, and the pruszoducer said, no, no, you're one of the reasons we're

coming to d.c. it was sweet to hear that. >> ben's chili bowl is a landmark, i grew up here, you can't not go to ben's chili bowl. there is -- it is a watering hole, you know, it really is a place people of all stripes who come there, you know, and enjoy, you know, the delicacy that you offer, but when anthony came, you know, was he open to whatever you got on the menu, did he already know what he wanted? describe what that occasion was like. >> yeah, sure. he was asking kind of what the signature dish was and heard about the half smoked because he came in with the author who told him about it, but he came in and he was just so warm, so friendly, so gracious, kind, and just -- i had gotten a book, this is for our 50th anniversary when he came, and i told him i had this book, he's like, absolutely, let's do it. so when mom came out, saw the

book, it was the first time, but it was very organic. he was very interested, and then the episode on d.c. was so thoughtful, because he really tapped into the two sides of d.c. >> what did you like about that? what do you suppose he peeled back or revealed to people perhaps they didn't know? >> when people think of the city, they think of government. you reported on everything that is going on in d.c., and you see it, this dysfunction and craziness. there's a local component of d.c. there are residents, people like myself and like yourself that grew up, you know, born and raised in the city, and there's that history, these wonderful neighborhoods. there's so much that d.c. has to offer that people don't know, and there are two sides. there are the haves and the have-nots, but he came in, even talking about food, talked about that and brought that to life. and that's something that most people don't do. >> do you remember what the reaction was like for the other customers who were there, anthony bourdain, the crew, et cetera? do you remember what that feeling was like? >> people were excited.

they are used to crazy things, kind of used toth. but it was a very special day. it was very, very special to have him there. the other thing, just to remember the show for today, is the specific words that he uses. so we talk about all these other things about him, but he's very intentional in his words. so when he says the magnificent virginia alley, talking about mom, or talks about how loving the place is, in this quote, you know, i've been in the restaurant industry 28 years at that time and i've never encountered a place that's loved by so many so widely and so locally as this place. if you just listen to those words, the intention of those words, and he does that in his work. that's the thing that i think is very different than most people. he's very intentional in every word that he uses and he brings out people's stories. >> genuine and poetry. >> yes. >> all right. everything he said about ben's chili bowl is so true, and it's so beautiful for you to share

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>> i was offended. i think i'm not alone. based on the president's past actions and his own admissions, that is to say his willingness to use patriotism as a political prop, his invitation to nfl players to report who knelt on the field, to provide advice on pardons, is politically disingenuous and morally insincere. in other words, he's asking them to stop kneeling on the field in protest about policy, and kneel before him in terms of pardons. it's insulting to those players. kneeling in the tradition of martin luther king. in other words, they are conscientiously objecting like muhammad ali on the field to policies that they disagree with. so for you to ignore their policy protests and say to them, oh, you being black must know

people who have committed crimes and who need pardons. well, these players we've been talking about the policies, they've given rise to mass incarceration, which has criminalized a generation of people -- more than people of color -- where we need a change in policy. and this is a -- he's basically saying give up something for nothing. >> and colin kaepernick and others who followed suit were making a statement about social injustices. it isn't measured in one way. it isn't just being jailed. and when the president said what he said, the way in which he said it, was there also an admission that he didn't quite understand the measurement of social injustices? his challenge was, bring me a list of people, black people who you know are in jail, and that was it. >> that's right, that's right. and colin kaepernick took a knee in protest on the front end of

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and weekend, a range of lows and highs. among the pinnacles this week here in washington, the national museum of african-american history and cture celebrated women in a couple more big ways. the smithsonian already celebrates women dating back to the 1800s making an impact on american history, from harriet hubman, aretha franklin, and now two significant new building blocks in the way women make impact on american history. the first of what will be an annual e3 women's summit, e3, standing for empowerment, entrepreneurship, and engagement and i was invited to a discussion with a powerful entrepreneur committed to those three tenants, cathy hughes. >> you also had a personal mission, a commitment, besides

keeping your eye on the prize. what was the mission? >> the mission was i wanted to be remembered. to me, i think i'm still a work in progress. i think i can still learn. when you see yourself as a work in progress, you really don't believe your own press. you really realize that you must best your best, you must continue, and you must always, always open doors to try to help other sisters, to empower other sisters. >> pretty impactful. also during that women's summit and now open to the public, a year long exhibit honoring a giant force, a champion of what it means to uplift others, oprah winfrey. the exhibit is called "watching oprah." and this new exhibit focuses on how american history since her birth year of 1954 shaped her and how the talk show queen turned global media leader has herself impacted american history and culture.

here oprah in the auditorium with her namesake with her impressions. >> i went through the whole exhibit. it's quite extraordinary. #goals to have your exhibit on exhibit at a museum, but i got through the whole exhibit yesterday, and the thing that made me cry was at the end there was a book where people had written just what the exhibit meant to them and what the oprah show had meant to them over the years, and a woman wrote, watching you every day is the reason why i love myself so fiercely. and that made me cry, because that is my goal, my intention is to use my life as an inspiration to other people to see what is possible for themselves. >> oprah had donated $21 million to this $540 million museum to

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