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you're doing an excellent job with the new show. chris, thank you very much for doing it. >> thank you, captain. to our viewers, "cuomo prime time" airs later tonight, 9:00 p.m. eastern here on cnn. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, doj's highly anticipated report taking on jim comey. doesn't find widespread bias at the fbi, though will trump allies drop the deep state talk? a country ruled like a cult. that's what president trump once said about north korea. so why is he now saluting a north korean soldier and calling kim jong-un very smart? a political cartoonist fired by his paper after 25 years on the job. was it because he was anti-trump? that cartoonist is "outfront" tonight. >> good evening to all,
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"outfront" this evening the breaking news. fbi agents will be held accountable. that is what the fbi director, christopher wray, said moments ago in response to a scathing report about the fbi's investigation into hillary clinton's private e-mail use. three fbi employees we did not know about, three new names, people were called out in the report for sending political messages that raised concern about anti-trump bias. again, this is three additional people on top of lisa page and peter struck. however, the judgment on some fbi employees pales in comparison to the report's rebuke of the fbi director himself, james comey. the report issued by the department of justice inspector general says comey's actions were, quote, extraordinary and insubordinate, saying comey, quote, intentionally planned to, quote, avoid supervision by department leadership over his actions. now those are exactly the kind of words that president trump has wanted to hear about his
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nemesis, jim comey, for more than two years. >> comey's a liar and a leaker. i did you a great favor when i fired this guy. the fbi is a fantastic institution. but some of the people at the top were rotten apples. james comey was one of them. >> okay. there is a problem tonight, though, for the president. because yes, the report, the 500 pages, spells out mistakes comey made and does so in tremendous detail. but this is the bottom line. after 18 months of investigation and 500 pages, quote, we found no evidence that the conclusions were affected by bias or other improper considerations. so trump's repeated charge that comey helped clinton, which he did on twitter, wow, looks like james comey exonerated hillary clinton long before the investigation was over and so much more, a rigged system. well, the report says that was not the case. was there personal political
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bias by some agents involved in the investigation? yes. the report says the agents who exchanged those highly critical text messages of trump, quote, brought discredit to themselves. but did that personal point of view impact their work? was their work politicized? did they violate, these people who worked for the fbi, lawyers and fbi agents, did they violate the trust of the american people in the fbi? no. quote, our review did not find evidence to connect the political views expressed in these messages to the specific investigative decisions that we reviewed. it's pretty clear but let's put it in simple english. after a year and a half of investigating, there was no evidence that agents' personal political bias affected the clinton investigation outcome. but the facts did not get in the way of the white house spin today. >> the president was briefed on the ig report earlier today. and it reaffirmed the president's suspicions about
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comey's conduct and the political bias among some of the members of the fbi. >> not budging a millimeter. by the way, democrats aren't either. they're using the report to underline their point. congressman jerry nadler and elijah cummings issuing a joint statement, the stark conclusion we draw after reviewing this report is fbi actions helped donald trump become president. what a shocker, democrats conclude comey helped trump, trump concludes comey helped clinton, nothing has changed. except for the fact that the conclusion's out there and it is something all americans should be glad to hear. wrongdoing is being exposed. people are being called out. people are going to be held accountable. if the fbi director keeps his word all right investigation to clinton's e-mails itself was not impacted by personal bias, and that is important. laura jarret is "outfront" tonight at the justice department. and laura, the conclusion obviously is crucial. but the 500 pages, a major rebuke for jim comey. >> that's certainly true, erin.
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the report is lengthy, detailed, full of rich color, and already the white house as you pointed out is pointing to this report to say that its findings on comey have been reaffirmed, its worst suspicions have come true. but the report is far more collected on the ground, erin. tonight, a sweeping new report on the clinton e-mail investigation. doj inspector general michael horowitz concluding, quote, we found no evidence that the conclusions by the prosecutors were affected by bias or other improper considerations. rather, we determined that they were based on the prosecutor's assessments of the facts, the law, and past department practice. a direct contrast to a favorite talking point from president trump. >> it's a rigged, broken, corrupt system. it's rigged. it's broken. it's corrupt. >> reporter: who has smeared the fbi's work at every opportunity. >> we have to investigate hillary clinton, and we have to
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investigate the investigation. this was a disgrace. >> reporter: the report finds former fbi director james comey's actions were an extraordinary departure from justice department protocol. but it says he did so without political motivations. however, certain text messages between two fbi employees, attorney lisa page and special agent peter struck, were found to have cast a cloud over the fbi's work. in one, page wrote, trump's not ever going to become president, right? to which struck replied, no, no he's not, we'll stop it. the ig report concludes struck's decision to later prioritize the russia investigation over the clinton probe may not have been free from bias. an assertion his attorney fiercely denies. the sweeping 500-plus-page report lays bare the series of events that led to comey's initial july 2016 recommendation that clinton should not face charges.
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condemning comey for usurping the attorney general loretta lynch's authority at the time, and affirmatively concealing his intentions. >> although we did not find clear evidence that secretary clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information. >> reporter: it also faulted lynch's error in judgment for a june 2016 tarmac meeting with president bill clinton. but concluded there was no evidence they engaged in any inappropriate discussion. once investigators found clinton-related e-mails on former congressman anthony weiner's laptop, the inspector general said senior fbi officials dragged their feet. yet comey broke protocol in october 2016 disclosing to congress the discovery of new e mays just days before the election. the inspector general calling it insubordinate and writing, we found it extraordinary that in
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the advance of two such consequential decisions, the fbi director decided the best course of conduct was to not speak directly and substantively with the attorney general about how best to navigate those decisions. now, erin, already various former officials have pit back on some of the findings in the report saying they have disagreed with them. but the current fbi director, christopher wray, said tonight he's going to get to the bottom of any misconduct and he pledges to hold the current employees accountable. >> thank you very much, laura. "outfront" tonight, democratic senator richard blumenthal who sits on the judiciary committee which oversees the justice department and the fbi. so this report today obviously is under your purview. senator, inspector general concludes in the 500 pages comey's actions were extraordinary and insubordinate, he flouted the department's norms, but i guess, and this but is extremely important, comey was not motivated by political bias. but still, he was insubordinate,
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he flouted norms, extraordinary activity. are you satisfied with the report? >> i'm very satisfied with the report so far as it goes right now. there need to be referrals to the office of professional responsibility, which today the director of the fbi said he was going to do. and on monday we're going to have hearings in the senate judiciary committee, where hopefully we will elicit from the inspector general who did this report even more findings. important to keep in mind, as you did earlier, very correctly, that there is no evidence whatsoever that improper considerations, including political bias, had any effect on this investigation. and there is no reason, absolutely no excuse, for using this report to cast doubt on the special counsel investigation. i hope my republican colleagues will stand clear on that point. >> let me be clear. when you're talking basically -- referring to department of
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personnel or the technical term you used, director wray says people are going to be held accountable, and we know about lisa page and peter struck. three new people are called out for personal messages that raised concerns of political bias in today's report. one of those three, you're talking about bob mueller, went on to serve on the fbi investigation into patient. and then served on the special counsel bob mueller's team. that person left the mueller investigation, went back to the fbi in february of this year when mueller found out about some of these messages. does this cast a shadow on the mueller investigation? >> none at all. and here's the reason. first of all, the special counsel, bob mueller, has taken very definitive action to prevent any political bias from impacting his investigation. the finding here in this report after 18 months and a lot of fact finding is that there was no political bias affecting
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either the clinton investigation or any other part of this inquiry. so i think that the special counsel's investigation is independent. >> so when it comes to that individual, the other two new people that we are finding out about, and of course peter struck himself who has been reassigned but not fired, i mean, should these people -- when chris wray says people are being held accountable, do these people all need to be fired? >> that is going to be the judgment made by the office of professional responsibility. two very important points. first of all, struck and page, the two fbi agents who broke the rules, they should be held accountable. these text messages are absolutely abhorrent. also recommended, even more aggressive action in the hillary clinton investigation. they recommended search warrants and grand jury subpoenas. the irony is they were even more aggressive in going after hillary clinton than the investigation was. second, i think it's very important to follow the rules
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here in any disciplinary action against them. >> look, i understand your point. there was bias. and it's unacceptable and abhorrent. but you're saying it didn't affect the investigation. but we did get this new text message exchange, basically, between peter struck and lisa page. this is in august of 2016. and it's in the ig report. page texts struck, trump's not ever going to become president, right? right? struck, no, no, he won't, we'll stop it. here's the thing. it's not hard to take a leap, if you read that as someone who looks at this, there's bias. that's not just bias, that's clearly someone who's acting on it, "no, we'll stop it." reports conclude they didn't, but does this race questions in your mind maybe they did? >> it would raise questions in my mind very certainly, erin. but the report i think is pretty definitive and conclusive. and persuasive on the point.
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that it didn't affect their practical actions. should they be disciplined? for creating the appearance of bias? absolutely right. they violated the norms and rules. they should be held accountable. as should other agents who similarly might do the same. because the fbi, as christopher wray said so well today, depends on not only the reality, but also the appearance of objectivity and independence. >> all right, thank you very much, senator blumenthal. appreciate your time tonight. >> thank you. and next, comey firing back. guns blazing tonight. the report saying that he used a personal e-mail account for government business. this is no joke. comey was using a personal e-mail account after investigating hillary clinton for doing the same thing. that is in the category of things you simply cannot make up. trump saluting a north korea general. this is common courtesy as the white house says? or was that a major propaganda victory for kim jong-un?
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breaking news. fired fbi director james comey firing back after the scathing report by the inspector general on his actions in the clinton e-mail probe. including his unilateral decision to announce she would not face charges. comey responding tonight doubling down. saying, quote, an announcement at that point by the attorney general, especially one without the transparency our traditions permitted, would have done corrosive damage to public faith in the investigation and the institutions of justice. as painful as the whole experience has been, i still believe that, and nothing in the inspector general's report makes me think we did the wrong thing. of course referring to the imbroglio with loretta lynch, how she met on the tarmac on the plane with bill clinton, couldn't announce it, the dominos fall from there. "outfront," josh campbell and retired fbi supervisory agent james galliano. josh, inspector general said it was extraordinary and insubordinate for comey to conceal his intentions from his
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superiors, which the report concluded he did so purposefully. today, though, comey is out saying he did nothing wrong, he's been exonerated. is he in denial? >> good question. if you look at the decisions that were made, i mean, a lot of this is going to be in the eye of the beholder to look at what the inspector general came up with, an independent agency charged with serving the role as watchdog. as i look the at the report, going through it, the recommendations, a lot of the allegations that were? there, i try to look at this through the lens of an investigation, fbi agent, and ask, was there wrongdoing? and what was the motive? what was the intention? >> it matters. >> it does. it appears there was wrongdoing, policies weren't followed, calls of insubordination. foe mr. looking at that motivation, the inspector general found there was no evidence of political corruption here. of political intent. so obviously mistakes were made, decisions that didn't comport with policy, but it wasn't the criminal nature we've been
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hearing from those down at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. >> insubordination, ironically insubordination to president obama, which if you're president trump you should like. just kind of pointing out the irony of that. james, what's your takeaway? >> i spent a good part of this afternoon grinding through as many of the 568 pages, which included the introduction and the appendices of the ig report. 30 minutes after the report comes out, boom, we have james comey delivers an op-ed to the "new york times," signed, sealed and delivered, where he weighs in on the report's findings. i went through that. then i listened to christopher wray's sober and impressive press conference this afternoon where he talked about how the fbi's culture is going to change, how they're going to embrace the findings, how they're going to try to get to the bottom, to josh's point, figure out what went wrong and fix it. i listened with a third ear. james comey was basically
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convicted, if you will, in quotation marks, of violating norms. i give him the benefit of the doubt. i think loretta lynch put him in an untenable position, president obama did the same. i think he was put into a bad position and he took what he thought was the least worst approach. where i pushback on him is he created a culture around him of young, callow, inexperienced agents that were making decisions on two giant cases that had huge consequences for the bureau and this country, and for that i fault him. >> so james, the white house press secretary, sarah sanders, says the report confirms the president's suspicions about comey's conduct. they're talking about political bias, saying it's still there, which they're actually saying it pretty smartly. the report does say there was political bias but the report concludes it did not impact the investigation, which team trump leaves out completely of their commentary. however, the president has frequently defended his decision to fire comey, and here's why. >> i love the fbi.
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the fbi loves me. but the top people in the fbi, headed by comey, were crooked. comey's a liar and a leaker. i did you a great favor when i fired this guy. the fbi is a fantastic institution. but some of the people at the top were rotten apples. james comey was one of them. i've done a great service for this country by getting rid of him. >> and of course that's just the tip of the iceberg, guys. on twitter, slippery james comey, a man who always ends up batting out of whack, he is not smart. that's obviously not true. anyway, will go down as the worst fbi director in history by far. so, james, is that true? worst fbi director in history? >> well, i wrote a piece a number of months ago where i ranked -- there have only been eight fbi directors in the 110-year history of the fbi. and i put james comey just above william sessions. william sessions left during the president clinton administration
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because of ethics violations. my issues with james comey are this -- >> you say not the worst, the second hiftd worst? >> i say he's the second-worst. not because he's got poor character, not because he's a bad man, and i'm sure josh can weigh in and give us stories about james comey doing good things. i served under him for two years. my issues with him are the fact that he let the inmates run the asylum. that he was a feckless leader and didn't push back on the president and the attorney general when they attempted to infect politics into investigations. >> josh, weigh in on this. so the report says jim comey was using a personal e-mail account. unclassified conversations, but he's using a personal e-mail account. after he'd investigated hillary clinton for doing the same thing. i mean, how the heck did that happen? >> yeah, there's a lot of wrongdoing in that report. i would put that in that category. i think that, you know,fy saw what former secretary clinton had tweeted today, i thought that was cute. it's reminiscent of kind of what they did with secretary powell as far as his aol account.
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i think there's a giant difference between using your e-mail account for speeches and using it to talk about drone asks top-secret clearance information. i'd put comey's use of a private e-mail account in the category of things of wrongdoing. also, pushing back respectfully on what jim was saying about the people comey surrounded himself with, i was a young person in that room. looking around the room, the table, the people with experience, there weren't a lot of spring chickens when you talk about expertise that came from the investigative field and the legal field in the room making decisions. >> thank you both. next, the white house defending trump after new video shows him saluting a north korea general. he'd been told not to do it by his own team. a reporter takes on sarah sanders over immigrants health -- health by the united states. >> you're a parent. don't you have any empathy for what these people are going through? (vo) we came here for the friends.
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bad things. >> yeah. but so have a lot of people done some really bad things. i mean, i could go through a lot of nations where a lot of bad things were done. >> again, no comparison in modern human history. press secretary sarah sanders was asked to defend those comments. she, of course, stood by her man. >> that's a factual statement. a lot of people have done some bad things. however, the president hasn't ignored the bad things that have been done by the north korean regime. he brought it up at the summit. and again, the purpose of the summit was to focus on denuclearization. >> and this whole imbroglio coming as new video surfaces of the president saluting a north korea general. michelle kosinski is "outfront." ♪ >> reporter: the latest propaganda video on north korean state tv, blasted out to its citizens, 42 minutes of kim jong-un. welcomed and photographed in singapore. seemingly the center of
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attention and adoration. all set to soaring instrumentals. ♪ culminating in his big summit on the world stage with the american president. telling north koreans trump expressed an exceptional respect and affection towards kim. showing him his car. plus this video the american side has not shown, trump saluting a north korea general. >> it was an inappropriate thing for him to do from a protocol perspective. now he's played into the north's propaganda about their legitimacy on the world stage. >> reporter: a u.s. official tells cnn the president had been briefed on protocol, that you don't salute military officers from other countries, and facial not state sponsors of terror like north korea. the white house, though, isn't treating this as any mistake but part of the broader goal to show respect for kim and his top brass.
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>> it's a common courtesy when a military official from another government salutes, that you return that. >> reporter: while trump again publicly praises kim jong-un. >> he's a very smart guy. he's a great negotiator. but i think we understand each other. >> but he's still done some really bad things. >> yeah. but so have a lot of other people done some really bad things. >> reporter: drawing more criticism for trump. >> i don't share the president's feelings towards kim jong-un. and i would say most people here don't. i couldn't disagree more fully with his assessment of the leader from north korea. >> reporter: the north koreans eating it all up. with kim shoulder to shoulder with the leader of the free world. and denuclearization presented as a joint goal of the entire korean peninsula. still not clear what their demands of the u.s. will be. ♪ they are lauding what, in their view, kim has won. trump's promise to stop joint military exercises with south
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korea. guaranteeing kim's security. and at some point lifting sanctions. viewed as a step by step, give and take process, which is the opposite of what the u.s. has said it wants -- all pack knowledged here as a triumph. in the surreal retro-dictatorial style that only the north korean propaganda machine can do. that music will burn its way into your brain if you let it. there has been this question of what exactly did president trump tell kim jong-un about sanctions relief? for now it's been the task of the secretary of state, mike pompeo, to explain the president's plan to americans and the world, and he insists that north korea won't have any sanctions relief until it completely denuclearlizes. >> all right, thank you very much, michelle. "outfront," gordon chang, author of "nuclear showdown: north korea takes on the world." and the senior adviser the president obama's national
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security council. sanctions in just a second, you have an important point. first play that video again of trump saluting the north korea general. this happened -- we didn't see it, but north korea released the video. and then i would assume that we can all pretty much infer the reason why one side would want this video out and the other side would not. >> certainly. the idea behind this is, if we're nice to them, they'll be nice to us. that doesn't work with koreans, especially north koreans. they'll view that as a sign of weakness, which is the reason why it's in the propaganda video, and theme press advantage. people say in business contexts, because i was a lawyer in asia a long time back. you don't smile to the koreans on the other side, even after you complete the deal. so that is i think really a mistaken view of the way the north koreans view trump and the united states and how to get a better deal. >> all of these things of, i trust you, your people love you, you're so smart, you're so funny, all of these things, that's perceived as -- >> i think it's counterproductive. >> perceived as weakness as
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opposed to kindness or whatever? as trump perceives it? >> it's counterproductive. >> so we've been told the president was briefed specifically, though. you've been in these situations. you're saying if it were a french general or ally, there are situations in which a president would do what president trump did. but this one he was briefed to not do specifically? >> this was an obvious mistake. i can't think of a single protocol officer, except maybe a russian one that would tell the president to salute a north korea general. this north korea general, to get a ticket to singapore, probably had to be involved in some malign activity to get close to kim. probably had to do something related to wmd or cyber hacking. so why would anybody tell the president to show him a sign of respect? >> obviously a crucial role in a nuclear program, which they have said they are developing to 90 late the united states. they've said that many times before. thissish you're of sanctions, you're pointing out there is already sanctions relief? >> yeah, the administration says we're not going to put on new
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sanctions, president trump said he had 300 sanctions he wanted to do. the point is the north koreans shift companies, entities, individuals, all the time to avoid our sanctions. so if we don't put new sanctions, if we don't designate new entities, essentially we're allowing the north koreans to hollow out our sanctions and they're becoming ineffective. >> you do not have to do anything in order to provide sanctions relief? a crucial point i think a lot of people may not realize. sam, the president, you heard him say there, a lot of other people do it. well, you know -- if he doesn't care about what the u.n. says, which no, there is no comparison in modern human history to what the north korean government and the kim regime is doing to its open people, you need only listen to trump himself seven months ago in seoul. >> an estimated 100,000 north koreans suffer in gulags, toiling in forced labor, and enduring torture, starvation,
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rape, and murder on a constant basis. the horror of life in north korea is so complete that citizens pay bribes to government officials to have themselves exported aboard as slaves. they would rather be slaves than live in north korea. north korea is a country ruled as a cult. >> and now kim is smart, funny, trustworthy, honorable, and the president saying it again and again and again. and saying that all these things that he himself listed, hey, a lot of other people do them. which trump are we supposed to believe? this is a speechwriter wrote that but this is an absurd contradiction. >> the president has selective memory whenever he's trying to do a deal. he doesn't need any reminder of all the bad things north korea has done, he just has to listen to his speech. but there's a double standard here. he's willing to forget what kim jong-un did, say, seven months
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ago, his last missile test. or when he assassinated his brother-in-law. when it comes to iran, his team and the president himself bring up activities that happened decades ago about iranian lies on their nuclear program, iran's cyber hacking, human rights abuses. double standards are not going to serve us well going forward. >> the president tweeted, we are negotiating in good faith, both sides are. then today the department of homeland security says, we've got a new threat from north korean hackers, that they're trying to hack into american systems with attacks right now. >> yeah, and that mirrors a report from about seven, eight days ago about increased north korean hacking. we've got to remember, february 2016, the north koreans steal $81 million out of the federal reserve new york account. that is stunning. it was bangladesh's money, but it came out of our account. what it did was it tried to undermine the integrity -- the image of integrity of the u.s. financial system. because here you take the biggest bank heist in history, in all probability, and you do
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it right from the fed. >> incredible. >> it's incredible. next, pittsburgh's leading newspaper firing a longtime political cartoonist for anti-trump cartoons like this? that cartoonist is "outfront." sarah sanders asked today if, as a mother, she cares about immigrant children being separated from their mothers in detention centers. was it a fair question? the reporter who asked is my guest. stay at la quinta. where we're changing with stylish make-overs. then at your next meeting, set your seat height to its maximum level. bravo, tall meeting man. start winning today. book now at lq.com ...to give you the protein you need with less of the sugar you don't. i'll take that. [cheers] 30 grams of protein and 1 gram of sugar. new ensure max protein. in two great flavors.
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new questions tonight for the trump administration about its policy of separating children from their parents after they enter the united states illegally. the policy sparking a very heated exchange in the white house press briefing this afternoon. >> come on, sarah, you're a parent, don't you have any empathy for what these people are going through? >> brian -- settle down. >> come on, seriously. >> i'm trying to be serious but i'm not going to have you yell out of turn. >> these people have nothing. >> hey, brad -- i know you want to get more tv time but that's not what this is about. >> answer the question, sarah. >> go ahead, jill. >> answer the question, it's a serious question. these people have nothing. they come to the border with nothing. you separate children -- you're a parent of young children, don't you have any empathy for
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what they go through? >> jill, go ahead. >> the reporter brian is "outfront," executive editor of "sentinel" newspapers and a cnn contributor. thanks for coming on. looking at your body language, the way you were talking there, obviously you made it personal, talking about sanders being a mother to young children. this was obviously a passionate moment for you, an emotional moment for you. what made you get so personal about it? >> well, two things, really. i covered the border for five years. i've seen the conditions under which people live that force them to flee and come to the united states and risk all. and if you're going to risk everything, you know -- a proper answer for her would have been, you know what we're providing them in a walmart is better than what they have in their home country. that would have been callus but true. the second thing is she's brought her children, her personal life, into that briefing room on numerous occasions. and in fact, as recently as last night, when cbs was reporting that she may be leaving her post soon, said she was at a
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kindergarten meeting with her children. so it's a very human question to ask. i mean, do you have empathy for what these people go through? regardless of policy. what i want to see, what i want to know, is, where do you draw the line? and what -- to invoke the bible? that was another thing. she invoked the bible as the law. i got a nice passage from the bible. "whatsoever you do unto the least of my brothers, that you do unto me." the separation of church and state, it's abhorrent for someone to use the bible in that manner. the fact of the matter is if you've ever seen anyone live in the conditions that force them to flee, to come to the united states, you have to ask the question, it begs the question, and at some point this time you want to know, why don't you spend a week down there, see what these people go through? i'd risk it all. >> brian, you know, the reaction to your exchange was obviously everybody saw it. walter schaub, former director
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of the office of government ethics, he said, thank you, heroic pushback, many exclamation points. this is what you should look like in that room every day. fox news anchor jesse waters accused you of having an embarrassing meltdown. you made the case, you said she brings up her children frequently, and she invokes them. your choosing to do so was not out of turn but consistent with choices she herself had made. >> exactly. >> those who say what you did was inappropriate, what do you say? >> that's their opinion, not mine. i think it's -- i'll tell you what i was told the first day i walked into the white house press briefing room by sam donaldson and my favorite friend, helen. helen told me, it's important to get the question asked. she told me, there's no such thing as a bad question, only bad answers. helen thomas said that. sam donaldson said that. i agree with that. in fact, this isn't king donald trump. it's president donald trump. he's responsible to us.
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it's a valid question. where are we morally as a country? where are we? and i want to know. as a voter, as a taxpayer, i want to know where the administration sits on this issue. and they haven't answered it, and they've put children in cables. that's frightening to me. it stands to many people as antithesis to what this country stands for. it demands an answer. >> all right. i thank you very much for your time, brian. >> thank you, erin, good to see you. >> you too. the political cartoonist who drew these anti-trump cartoons fired after a quarter century on the job at the paper. so was it about trump? he's my next guest. and the congressional baseball game is happening right now. last year we all remember being there after the tragic shooting. congressman steve scalise tonight back in the game at this moment after almost losing his life in that shooting last year. sarah always chooses to take the stairs. but climbing 58,070 steps a year can be hard on her feet, knees, and lower back.
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usually ran five days a week, have run since last month. i want to get straight to this. i can't imagine you work somewhere for 25 years and this happens. some of the cartoons your publisher refused to print was the president laying a wreath on the tomb of the unknowns. a child being bulled away from their parents as they tried to cross the border. >> why were these rejected? did your editors give you reasons? >> no, they didn't give me any reason at all. but the common theme in all the ones that have been rejected, i'd say 90% of them have something to do with trump.
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so there's a clear pattern they were trying to tamp down the voice i was having, being critical of trump. >> some people might say, you're a political cartoonist. i want to make the point here, that you're political critique. now trump is president, but you have not solely focused on trump or republicans in the past. >> you did this one of president obama and obamacare. get ready for amazing affordable care. hold on, i'll get this. hillary clinton, did you one called the clinton bubble. we see some of the controversies that plagued her campaign. and her not giving a hoot. >> you were a pulitzer prize for your cartoons with president clinton and monica lewinsky. you didn't have problems with those? >> no, not at all, one of the photos showed clinton from behind and he had no pants on.
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i think that i've been pretty even handed in terms of presidents. it's clear i've drawn more cartoons about trump than obama, because i was more aligned with obama's politics. i've certainly hit both sides. >> when you're -- your paper has said, in light of mr. rogers public comments today, we want to acknowledge his long service to our company. >> they gave -- what did they say to you today? you've worked there for 25 years. i understand over the past couple months with them not using any of the cartoons, you saw something like this coming. they just fire you that's it, no reason given? >> they tried like last week when everything sort of blew up, they tried to impoe h pose certain guidelines on my working conditions there, which were more sort of difficult to deal
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with than the current working status that i was under. i knew that was going to be impossible. then they made a week and a half, so i'm sweating it out, then they said to me, thank you. you know, leave your key card and we'll see you later, so. there was really no reason given, but i think the events of the last week have been telling. >> they're not running anything you have done on trump? >> thank you very much. >> in light of our country's president saying the biggest enemy is fake news. thanks so much. >> sure. >> one year after being critically wounded steve scalise with an incredible moment, returning to the field. -and we welcome back gary,
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who's already won three cars, two motorcycles, a boat, and an r.v. i would not want to pay that insurance bill. [ ding ] -oh, i have progressive, so i just bundled everything with my home insurance. saved me a ton of money. -love you, gary! -you don't have to buzz in. it's not a question, gary. on march 1, 1810 -- [ ding ] -frédéric chopin. -collapsing in 226 -- [ ding ] -the colossus of rhodes. -[ sighs ] louise dustmann -- [ ding ] -brahms' "lullaby," or "wiegenlied." -when will it end? [ ding ] -not today, ron. -when will it end? [ ding ] i think, keep going, and make a difference.
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it was one year ago today that a gunman opened fire on a group of republican congressmen practicing for their annual charity baseball game against democrats. among the most seriously injured, the house majority whip steve scalise. the congressional baseball game kicked off a little bit ago. his mere presence on the field truly is something of a miracle. scalise was standing by first base, when he was shot at that practice last year. he nearly died from a gunshot wound that shattered his pelvis, his hip, and his left leg. >> it's getting better, but slow. you focus on getting better every day. >> crystal griner and david bailey have been credited for
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saving his life. five people were wounded. before that the shooter was shot and killed. the crowd cheering scalise as his fellow players are celebrating a wonderful moment for congress and a huge milestone for scalise's road to recovery. >> thanks to all of you for joining us. we'll see you back here tomorrow night. ac 360 starts now. >> we begin tonight with the breaking news about the conduct of james comey among others during the 2016 investigation into hillary clinton's private e-mail server. we're going to spend a good amount of time on it tonight, it's being seen through different partisan lenses. hillary clinton supporters say comey cost her the white house. before we get to any of that, we want to try to clear away the smoke and take care of the takeaways from the report.
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