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>> reporter: former trump campaign chairman paul manafort is going to jail. >> i feel badly, they went back 12 years to get things he did 12 years ago. >> he's gone to -- he's not going to pardon anybody, but he's not going to give up the right to pardon if a miscarriage of justice is presented to him. two adults, four children, just finished crossing the rio grande a while ago. now they're in the custody of border patrol. >> i hate the children being taken away. the democrats have to change their law. >> if you don't like families being separated, you can tell dhs stop doing it. >> i think it's disgusting, so disgusting that people are, one, trying to use the bible in the same way they use the bible judge justify slavery. good morning to you. we're grateful to have you with

us here. i'm christi paul. >> i'm martin savidge -- >> good to have you with us. the situation is causing confusion in washington, anguish from the border, religious discussions -- we're talking about the separation of families and children at the u.s.-mexico border. >> at least 2,000 immigrant children were separated from their parents since the april period. the government issued a zero-tolerance policy for adults caught crossing the border illegally. part of the policy includes the controversial practice. what is happening to these parents and children once nay get here? ed lavandera reports from south texas. >> reporter: it's hard to see people moving through the thick south texas vegetation. the rio grande rolls by just beyond the treeline, and then just like that, they appear out of the brush. a small group of undocumented immigrants walking into a public park.

we came across this group of undocumented immigrants in mission, texas. two adults, four children, just finished crossing the rio grande a while ago. now they're in the custody of border patrol. this group is actually made up of three different groups. they say they met along the journey from honduras and decided to enter the united states together. border patrol agents give them water, and they sit in the shade as they wait for a vehicle to take them to a border patrol station. there's jonathan, 11-years-old. he says he left honduras with cousins, but they abandoned him along the way. he says his mother lives in virginia and told him not to make the journey alone. now he's here. "i told her i wanted to come," he says. "she said it's very dangerous." are you scared? "a little," he says. it's a brief conversation that leaves you with many more questions about how a young boy can yet to this point.

as an unaccompanied minor he will likely end up in a children's shelter like this as federal authorities try to connect the boy with his mother. the rest of the group is made up of two adult women with their children. dahlia is 24 years old and crossed the border with her little boy y. did you come? she said gang members left a note threatening to kill her, and that's when she decided to flee. are you afraid they'd separate you from your son? "yes, he's my son, and i love him. i have carried him throughout my journey." dahlia says she did not know that she might be separated from her son once shy was taken into custody in the united states. she says, "i have nothing in honduras." the families are loaded up and taken away, unsure of what happens next. the question now is what happens to these young children. jonathan, the 11-year-old in the piece, he gave me his mother's

cell phone number in virginia. i was able to speak with her. she told me that immigration authorities have already reached out to her, and they would talk to her tomorrow to figure out what happens next. as far as the two adult women and their children, what happens to them is very much up in the air. even though the trump administration says this is a zero-tolerance policy and the plan it to prosecute 100% of the people who cross the border illegally, that isn't happening yet. federal officials will not say how exactly it's determined as to who gets prosecuted and separated from their children and who is released and allowed to move on. they won't explain how the decisions are made. the fate of the women in the story, with those children, as far as we know it is very much up in the air. cnn, mcallen, texas. >> thank you very much. criminal and immigration defense attorney jessica stern with us, as well as cnn contributor and former director of the office of government ethics, walter schwab. thank you for being here. walter, on twitter you called

this practice state-sponsored terrorism. why? >> you know, yesterday on cnn lindsey graham admitted that the purpose of this was deterrence. he was asking the question couldn't the president stop this with a phone call. he said, sure, but that would increase the likelihood of more people coming here. once you're trying to simply deter people, you're admitting that what you're trying to do is create an atros frost severe enough to care -- an atrocity severe enough to scare others away. this is an atrocities, an atrocity, an outrage against humanity. >> senator feinstein tweeted this out -- 43 senators now support our bill to bar children from being taken from their parents at the border. we still need a republican

senator to join. if you're represented by a republican senator, ask them to support bill 1336, #familiesbelongnecessa #familiesbelongtogether. yes, they are kmiillegals comin in, but to separate them and detain them immediately has not always been policy. >> it absolutely hasn't. there is no law that says that we must detain children or separate children from their families. the law that we are talking about has been in existence since 1997. a federal court settlement agreement that controls how children should be detained if they must. the conditions have to be the least restrictive. really minimal conditions. make sure that children are in licensed facilities for children. but ultimately, we don't have to be separating children from

their parents, separation clearly is a trump practice. and it's not something that we've seen at this level before. >> let me ask you this -- we know that some of the children are housed in an abandoned walmart. they are now in the custody of the united states at this point. if one is hurt, if one is abused, if one is lost, who is going to shoulder that blame? >> the government has to. i mean, we specifically have to protect children. that is in the court mandate that we have to make sure that children are not around anyone that's dangerous. that they're not around adults or other juveniles that could have any sort of harm on the children. so it's important that we are careful. what happens, children are being separated now from their parents not knowing where they are and are ultimately getting lost.

parents have no idea where they are. >> the president is the putting? squarely on the democrats. that's not accurate. all of congress essentially when you look at this, i would assume, is to blame. the president did give congress six months to figure out a legislative fix and did not do that y. is that? >> first of all, it's a lie is what it is. he's saying somes that's patently untrue, okay -- say something that's patently untrue, and he knows it. it's absurd because his party controls the house, senate, white house, and judiciary. hi he could change this in a heartbeat setting aside it's not a loss, he could change it with the phone call. >> the bigger picture is there has to be a lemgislative fix to immigration -- a legislative fix to immigration as a whole. why after all of these years, and people will argue the democrats had a chance under obama, the plans have a chance to do it now. why is there no legislative fix?

does this fall squarely on congress? >> i'll answer that, but i've got to separate something. we're conflating two things. maybe there are broader problems that can be solved with legislation. holding up fixing this immediate problem that he has created with this new practice and using children as hostages because he says he won't sign anything that doesn't give him his wall, he is using these children as hostages to get that component of a reform package. there's no talking about a broader solution until this immediate manufactured crisis is solved. then more broadly we can look at a broader legislative fix to immigration. the problem is there isn't a consensus in america. there are people who are threatened by the changing demographics in our nation. and there are other people who want to have a more permissive policy. they're not going to agree any time soon.

putting this crisis on hold in terms of finding a solution, until we solve a problem that we've been debating for about 100 years. there was a huge push in the 1920s to hold back immigration as xenophobia reared its ugly head. now it's rearing its head again. this problem is not getting solved quick leap, it's incredibly complex, nuanced. but you don't get to the broader solution until you solve this immediate manufactured crisis. >> this has to be reconciled as a singular issue. absolutely. my last question to you, jessica, our foster care system is already so overwhelmed, and there's been talk somewhat some of the children may end up in -- been talk that some of these children may end in foster care. is there a point if they don't do something quickly that the system will be so overwhelmed that we don't know how these children are going to thrive, survive, how they're going to cope, what they're dealing with being separated like this at such a young age?

this could call real harm to the children exactly. >> that's what's happening. the kids are considered unaccompanied minors. even though they came with their parents, because there's parents are being taken for prosecution, they're on their own. they have no support. no sponsor, no protector. the government now is responsible for finding a spar for them. there's not going to be enough. it's uncertain what will happen to the children. >> all right. jessica, walter, we appreciate the two of you and your perspectives. thank you for sharing with us this morning. >> thanks. still to come, the government is struggling with how to house all of the children that is coming under its care. it septembering up some temporary setups in the middle of the desert s. that anyway to look after children? and is former campaign trump chief wakes up in jail rudy giuliani giuliani says pardons

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you heard this before, what a difference a day can make. in the case of paul manafort it made a huge difference. he's waking up in jail this morning. >> he arrived last night. we want to show some the exclusive video. cnn here after his bail was revoked. caught this -- manafort may stay there until his trial on foreign lobbying charges starts in september. >> one of the president's

attorneys, that would be rudy giuliani, now suggesting pardons could be in the palestine aft aftafter -- could be in the pipeline after the investigation but only if the president thinks his former staffers are prosecuted unfairly. here's part of what he said last night. >> let me make it clear right now. anybody listening. he is not going to pardon anybody in this investigation. he is not obviously going to give up his right to pardon if a miscarriage of justice is presented -- >> doesn't that mind up meaning -- >> cnn white house reporter sarah westwood with us now. sarah, what have you heard from washington this morning? >> one of president trump's top lawyers leaving the door open for a wave of presidential pardons if trump doesn't agree with the conclusions of special counsel robert mueller, speaking to reporters on friday. trump dodged a direct question about whether he would pardon people caught up in the russia investigation. he did express sympathy for the former associates now facing

difficult legal situations. and he cast doubt on whether former national security adviser michael flynn lied to investigators. flynn pleaded guilty to making false statements to the fbi. giuliani told chris cuomo last night that he advised president trump to hold off on pardoning anyone implemented in the mueller probe until it's over. take a listen. >> my advice to the president of the united states as his lawyer, not a government lawyer, is no pardons. it -- it would completely change the momentum we have because it's strong now. you see the polls moving in the president's favor and against mueller. >> why did you suggest it? >> i didn't. i said he shouldn't pardon anybody. what i said was after the investigation is over, it has to be considered a governmental matter, not by me. what the history has been is these people -- these things get cleaned up. ford did it. reagan did it. carter did it.

clinton did it, and bush did it in political investigations. >> you're saying after the probe is over, it may could cleaned up with any pardons? >> if people were unfairly prosecuted. >> reporter: president trump has already described the jailing of former campaign chair paul manafort as unfair and has used parts of the doj report of the clinton e-mail investigation to attack the mueller probe even though it did not weigh in on russia. >> thank you very much for that report. >> thanks. rudy giuliani, he also weighed in on the president's 2020 rea election prospects last night. had some harsh comments about former vice president joe biden. he called him a moron and mentally deficient idiot, those are quotes from him. and claimed that biden had been at the bottom of his law school class at syracuse university. listen to this -- >> i meant heats afternoon -- he's dumb. i think joe's last in his law

school class. joe -- >> he wasn't last, but he was low -- >> he was second to last. other guy died, and he ended up last. >> we had a different number, but he didn't do well. >> he had a plagiarism problem in law school. a plagiarism problem asnator. which i think indicates about character. constantly making faux pass. >> why talk about joe biden? i asked if he would be a formidable candidate. i said, no. i think the president would like to run against him. he never did well as a national candidates. the president did fabulously as a first-time national candidate. >> meghan mccain came to joe biden's defense tweeting,quote, i am disgusted by giuliani's abhorrent and idiotic comments about joe biden. joe biden is one of the great political leaders of all time. one of the truly decent men left in politics. and someone my family has looked to for strength during the most difficult time in our lives,

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debate and protests spreading across the country regarding the trump administration's practice of splitting up immigrant families when they try to enter the country. the administration says it's a matter of securing other border and deter -- securing the border and deterring illegal immigrants from entering the u.s. critics call it heartless and harmful to children who end up in government detention facilities and foster homes. there are different roeneasons t kids can end up in the custody of the government. we want to explain here as much as we know it. some minors come into the country by themselves. others come with parents or other family members know who cross the border illegally. when they're caught, the government separates children from the adults that they're with. in some cases children are separated from parents who present themselves legally at

ports of entry to apply for asylum. once the children are taken from their families, they're designated unaccompanied alien children. they're assigned to the humgs office of refugee resettlement. separating families is not new. why is it happening more frequently now is what a lot of people are asking. president trump says it's because of a law put in place by the democrats. >> people say, look, you rip these families apart, even though it is the law, it's heartless. >> that's the law, and that's what the democrats gave us. we're willing to change it today if they're willing to negotiate. >> that's not true. this was the deliberate policy shift by the trump administration. they have the power to unilaterally reverse this. it is legal, no question at all. it's purely the administration's decision and discretion when it comes to the separation of families that we are seeing now.

>> sticking with the subject, cnn is learning more about the first temporary holding facility for undocumented children. those separated from their parents. the location in texas, a tent-like city in the desert that reportedly can hold up to 360 beds with more if needed. 200 children were delivered just yesterday. gary tuchman visited the site yesterday. >> reporter: this is the tining attorney of torneo, texas. this is the port of entry campus across the rio grande river from chihuahua, mexico. behind the six-foot fence, behind the six-foot granite wall, and behind this ten-foot barbed wire fence, we believe there are up to 2 00 children reside -- up to 300 children residing who arrived yesterday. the government is not telling us the exact number. however, we're told by a state representative for the district that 98 children arrived on

thursday. 200 more on friday. these children were separated from their parents when crossing the border and children who came by themselves. the tents in the background, we believe that's where they'll be living. the government hasn't told us where they will be. the structure matches what they describe as a semi permanent facility that one built with durable plastic and steel and heat, ventilation, and air conditioning. air conditioning critically important because it gets to over 100 here during the day. president trump could stop this from happening now. he says it's the democrats' fault. however, the arresting of adults while in the process of taking their children started with mr. trump as the administration. he could stop it as soon as he started it. it's still going on. this area is desolate. the 300 children who arrived have increased temporarily the population of the town by 20%. there are only 1,500 to live

here. in the middle of the desert, 40 miles east of el paso. there's a toll booth that was built for people driving from the united states to mexico. they don't use it because there's not enough traffic to make money from the tolls. this is one of about 100 such facilities in the united states. back to you. >> thank you very much for that. joining us to discuss this is cnn political commentator and former senior adviser to the trump campaign, jack kingston, and political commentator and democratic strategist, maria cardona. let me start by saying that oublth we' obviously -- that obviously we've heard talk about the separation of families. how do we stop it? how do we change it? jack, maybe i'm going too far. maybe i'm assuming you are

opposed. where do you stand? >> i'm opposed to it, but i think you're right in saying we need to step back and say why are we here, what has led to this. >> i didn't say that. i said what are we going to do about it? >> in order to do something we need to know why he was it. as you know, it's a 2008 policy that was continued under the obama administration. it's -- >> i don't want to go back over that. we've done that all this week. wee hitt it -- >> wrong -- >> we have hit it with many guests. going forward, let's talk about the legislation that is pending going forward. >> but marinetin, as somebody w has voted on immigration reform and worked for immigration reform and sat in the legislative chair, you need to know the history. we can skip that and say that we do have a choice in the house between two pieces of legislation. just as there was a choice this year, january of 2018, when the

president offered the senate a deal and the democrats rejected it. >> which of the two deals do you support? >> i like the goodlatte bill, frankly. i think it's a stronger one. we have to have border enforcement. >> doesn't mention separation of families. >> no, you driveway it as part of it. part -- the reason why you have this alien transfer exit program is because there was no wall in the rural areas. that's the reason it's there. what you do is you try to have something that will deter people coming in that area and push them into an area where they will enter illegally. >> let me stop you. i want to bring maria in, as well. let me start by asking this -- of the two proposals that may be voted on next week, democrats i believe said they're not going to vote or they're not -- not going to go along with either one. >> yeah. >> what do we do?

>> well. in order to stop this horrific, pure evil policy that we are seeing right now that has separated up until now in the last six weeks at least 2,000 children from their families, many of which have been taken from the arms of their mother while they are breast-feeding, many of which, many mothers have been lied to saying -- >> with all due respect, we have gone over this, what are democrats going to do? >> they are taken from them -- >> what are the democrats going to do? >> let me be very clear, martin, the democrats don't have to do anything. do you know why? because this is a policy that president donald j. trump has put forward by himself. this is not a democratic law. you know this. you have been batting down that debunked myth -- >> let me say this -- >> hang on, jack. hang on. >> let her finish. >> this is not a policy or law

put forward by democrats. the president could stop this now. the president did not need to start this. the president said clearly as have his white house aides that they are using this as a negotiating tactic so they can get through the draconian bills that jack is talking about. that is disgusting. >> why are democrats being blamed for not doing anything? because that's what they're not doing -- >> yes. >> they're not taking this on. >> let me tell you why. once again, the president and his republican supporters are outright lying to the american people. we are happy to meet this president, to talk about comprehensive immigration reform which the majority of the american people support. we will not negotiate away this kind of issue where the president can stop this tomorrow. this has nothing to do with democrats. >> okay -- >> jack, back in -- >> and the bills in congress will not fix the immigration

system. >> jack, do you believe this will be resolved next week? do you think we'll have a vote? >> i think this is going to move the right direction, and yes. i was on the phone with the white house yesterday, a senior official. they do not like this policy. they are desperate to sit down with the legislative branch which, by the way, maria, as you know, makes the laws, the executive branch enforces the laws. it's the legislative branch where this has to begin. i don't accept that the democrats don't have to do anything. i have been a minority member of the house and a majority member. the whole time i was responsible for my conduct and trying to find solutions. it didn't matter who was in the white house. >> there is a solution being put out there which is coming from the democrats. it's a proposal to deal specifically with the issue of separation of families. i'm wondering if this topic is so disconcerting to republicans, why would they not sign on to

just that? >> as the ryan bill and goodlatte bill move through the house, the democrats should offer that and any other amendment that they have that they think will be productive. again, the president offered -- >> why not vote on that specific issue since everyone agrees t abhorrent? >> let me ask you a question. if you do that -- >> answer the question, jack -- >> will you solve this problem? and i think if you can say, yeah, you take care of everything, i think the bill would sail through the house. >> see -- >> the concern is trite that you still have a major problem with porous borders and what are you going to do about it? >> see. the last say here -- >> jack just admitted that the president and republicans are taking this children -- these children hostage as a pure negotiating tool to get through the rest of their draconian proposals. here's the bottom line -- >> you guys were in charge for eight -- you were in charge

under boom and did not agrees the law. >> here's the bottom line -- we had a resolution for the immigration problem. it was called the comprehensive immigration reform act. republicans put a stop to it. john boehner said -- >> you had a democrat in the house who did not pass it. >> john boehner said when he was leader of the house to president obama that he was not going to bring it up because he didn't want to pass a bill a majority of democratic support. now republicans are taking children hostage, and this is purely the president's fault because they want these draconian bills passed -- >> we're not diving back into the past. this was supposed to be about the future. we will talk again. thank you both. >> thank you. let's talk about something that could certainly affect you directly. this tit-for-tat trade war brewing after china retaliates with their own set of tariffs on u.s. products. i remember president trump slapped tariffs on $50 billion worth of chinese goods.

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7:44. so grateful to have you with us. this summer begins the march for our lives national tour. it's led by students who survived the parkland shooting in florida, and they're making stops across america to get their message out in support of gun control. >> the campaign kicked off this weekend at chicago's annual rally for peace. cnn's diane gallagher has the story. i said how y'all doing, chicago? [ cheers ] >> reporter: bringing their brand of activism and all the crowds and cameras that come with it to the south side of chicago. >> everyone from parkland is so grateful to be here with you today. we're so grateful to fight with you, stand with you, rally with you. >> reporter: announced earlier this month in florida, the students from parkland officially kicked off their next movement, a 75-stop cross-country political action summer tour and voter registration drive. >> we're calling this the "road to change." what place better to bring

change to than chicago? >> reporter: linking one young chicago activists like trevon bosley and arianna williams who will join them on the summer tour. the parkland teens taking a back seat at the first summer stop. the chicago strong rally in st. sabina academy peace march. instead, choosing to shine their spotlight on the windy city's youth movements which have struggled to garner the same kind of attention. >> i've been fighting anti-violence for eight or nine years. we did a press conference, and we literally had no press at all. and to see that parkland got the press and they allowed us to use their platform to spread our message of everyday shootings because they've been happening for so long and so often, and the majority of the times the media has become content, as well as the community here has become content with the violence. >> i was born into a violent chicago. but in reality, we're starting to change that because we began to see if we have a hope of people helping us and we have a way to change chicago.

>> reporter: manuel oliver whose son joaquin was one of 17 murdered at marjorie stoneman douglas high school used art, paint, and a hammer to advocate for nationwide gun reform. as the city's young activists delivered fiery speeches -- >> it's time for change! >> reporter: taking turns on the stage with the likes of former arizona congresswoman and shooting survivor gabby giffords, chicago teens solemnly read the 147 names of young people killed in their city this year. >> i'm not here to sing, man, i'm here to turn up. trying to get loud. >> reporter: chance the rapper and jennifer hudson, the family who lost three, took to the streets marching for peace and unity in chicago. the young people here today saying these are the first steps. >> you ain't seen nothing yet. >> reporter: on their unified road -- >> we're coming for you. >> reporter: that they believe

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it is day three of the world cup from russia. we're looking forward to the david versus goliath kind of matchup that is going to happen later today. >> it's how it was described. amanda davies is live at the spartak stadium where argentina and iceland are facing off in just ban hour at this point. what's going on? >> hi, christi. hi, martin. glorious day here in moscow where the stage is set perfectly for the smallest nation ever to qualify for the world cup to take their bow on football's

biggest stage. and what a way to do it against the might of the two-time world champions argentina and, of course, their star man lionel messi. this is a country with a population of just 330,000 people. and then when you look at the size of the pool of professional players they have to choose from for their 23-man squad, they have only about 100 of them. so just getting to this point, their first major world cup, is impressive enough. their coach is actually still a part-time dentist and he, as you would expect, has described this match today as the biggest in his country's footballing history. this is a team not just popular for what they do on the pitch but for their fans as well. you can hear them there in the pictures. we can hear them singing already behind us in the stadium. >> no doubt. it will be on our tv at home at

some point. amanda davies, thank you. stay with us. the next hour of what message rudy giuliani is sending with all of the pardon talks, coming up.

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