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good evening. welcome to the van jones show. we have another amazing show for you guys tonight with two awesome superstar guests. first up, comic genius, seth meyers is in the building. he's already here. give him some love. seth meyers! now seth meyers is a funny guy. not just a funny guy. he's using his come by platform to take on some of the most
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serious topics facing our country and sometimes, it takes somebody with "saturday night live" level comedy skills just to convey all the ab b surrenderty that's going on in the country right now and he pulls it off night after night. so i'm happy to have him here. also for the first time, we're going to air my full exclusive interview with kim kardashian west. tonight. on the van jones show. this week, kim got a chance to meet face-to-face for the very first time with the newly freed alic alic alice johnson. a great grandmother who was serving a life sentence for a first time drug offense. life sentence, first time offense. now, kim appealed personally to president trump and he commuted her sentence, to hats off to donald trump for doing that. now after 21 years, miss johnson is finally free. and such an important story about redenlgs, embracing second
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chances. both for alice johnson and kim kardashian west. to be fair, miss johnson did mess up pretty bad in '93. she lost herb job, her husband through a divorce then her son in a motorcycle accident. she fell in with the wrong crowd. got involved with drugs. no excuses, just facts. but behind bars, she was a model of good behavior. never got in trouble. which is almost impossible in prison not to get in any trouble in prison. took places, became an or daned minister, hospice worker, personal trainer, everything. that's called evolving. making the best of a bad situation and there are many more people behind bars. speaking about ef collusion, hats off to -- a serious social justice advocate but give credit
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where credit is due. it takes a lot of courage to go in that white house to meet with with the polarizing president you've never even met. so what's the lesson here? whether you're a down on your luck mom or an iconic celebrity, change is possible and as a society we got to embrace that, especially for people who put in the hard work to make a new start. our leaders shouldn't start p s passing free grace to anybody who hasn't earned that. for instance, excuse me, i am very glad we're not going to be bombs falling on san francisco. i give trump his fair kudos to l cool off the tensions between u.us and north korea, but president trump should not be wandering around praising the most barbaric, brutal, murderous dictator on the planet and
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making excuse frs his behave. republicans skewered obama just for nodding his head. that's our ally. trump should in the not be a suit luting military butchers. listen. i'm like miss alice johnson. kim jong-un has never repented. he's not learned anything. he's not promising to do better. he does not deserve our grace or donald trump's flattery. i never thought i would see a u.s. president kissing up to north korea's bloody dictator and slamming our new enemy, cana canada. if anybody can help us make sense of these ab b surrendsurdr next guest. please welcome the good brother, seth meyers' in the house.
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>> one of the first things i had to learn is you got to let the guest sit first, but i forgot i'm the guest. >> we're both standing. >> i remembered. i was allowed the sit down. >> and you are welcome to be here. though i'm mad at you. >> why? >> i think this is all your fault. >> okay. >> you were the comic who at the white house correspond enents dinner poke it had bearment imt to show you the joke you told to this guy, donald trump, that i think made him decide to run. >> donald trump says he'll run for republican which is surprising because i swrus assumed he was running as a joke. donald trump often appears on fox, which is ironic because a
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fox often appears on donald trump's head. donald trump said recently, he has a great relationship with the blacks, though unless they're a family of white people, i bet he's mistaken. >> do you have any regrets, sir? for unleashing this? >> no, i think i did the right thing back then. i was calling him out. this was a time when he was calling into question whether or not president obama was born here. which was bsn and is bs now. he revealed who he was then and it was totally fair to go after him. now it didn't turn out the way i thought it would. >> when he won, did you like think to yourself, am i going get deported? >> well first, i thought he was going to lose. i thought everybody b was going to say, you tricked him into running. >> no. >> then i woke up aoh, you know. obama also told jokes about him that night and looking back, i
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do think it was his fault. >> that's good. listen, as frustrated people might be about you maybe having pulled in donald trump, you know, you also may be pushed out sarah palin. you were at "saturday night live" and you were head writer when tina fyey created this iconic person. >> this speaks to how little power maybe us comedians have bought in 2008, we got a lot of create. oh my god they buried the political aspirations of sarah palin palin, but i would say donald trump took that tenfold and didn't make a difference. the thing i'll say we got lucky with was we had to do sarah palin six times then she lost and we didn't have to worry about it. where as i do feel for the current snl staff because the thing that was supposed to go away is now an ef week issue for them. but i think they're doing a
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great job with it. >> you have to face the same challenges as a comedian. night after night after night deal iing with the theatre of t absurd. i mean, at some point, i mean, how do you evaluate donald trump as an entertainer? in other words, you work with some of the best in the world. i know about him as a political leader, but as a pure entertainer, where do you rank him? >> oh, i think he's fantastic entertainer. magnetic, has an ability to play to the crowd is undervaluing him. i actually think his stump speech he built the same way a stand up comedian builds their act in that he tries out new things and the stuff that works goes into the act as a recuring bit. i think build the wall you know, he said that and got a reaction and you could watch him say, oh, yeah, that's going to do in now. lock her up. that's a hit. i'm going to do that every time i go out. it was just watching a really good stand up find material. i think he comes at it as an entertainer more than a
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politician. >> if he stopped saying crazy stuff, would you be sad? >> no. i would be happy. >> think about it. >> i wanted to make sure i was framing. i said it right. look, i would happily push aside what he gives us every day for a more balanced leadership for the country. i don't value my show's success over the country's. >> you are really tough on him. a lot of the late night folks are really tough on him. do you feel that the red state folks have a legitimate complaint when they say all these late night guys are a you know, attack squad against the president and there's no diversity there when it comes to any logical dity versety and fair snz. >> i can understand they don't like it. i respect their opinion to choose not to watch. with that said, most comedians are pretty consist ept in
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calling out hypocrisy and lying. we don't every day just say, hey, we got to attack donald trump, what is there? it's the opposite. the thing comes first then we realize in order to talk about it is to in some degree, talk b about dt. the kay he stops gi igiving us stuff to talk about, we'll move on to something else. it's not like we have to go searching through the corners of the internet to find something crazy he said. yeah, i mean, we just put on cnn and just wait. >> you know, some people might say though that maybe you're making it worse in terms of the polarization. even had a stockholder at comcast say iing you in mar, borderline tremendous sonnous because you're a professional presidential krcritic. how do you respond to those concerns? yeah, sure, donald trump is a character, but are you make iint
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worse, is there a kanger of f making it worse by being so tough on him? >> i don't, i can't answer that. some people might think that i'm make iing it worse, some don't. the only thing i'd say is i feel like i'm being very true to my values when i say what that person just said is lie. i don't feel like i'm coming at that at progressive or democrat. i feel like that's clearly a lie and i think if trump supporters could step out of supporting for him, they'd say, oh, i'm not being presidential barber, saying that's a lie. it just is. and i'm calling it what it is. i think comedians are having good when they call things out for what they are. >> what is the goal of the show? it's not that you just sit up there and say bad stuff about donald trump. you sometimes will take a whole ten minutes, which in tv, is an eternity, for a closer look and you'll actually dissect an issue like guns or immigration. and it's funny, this is not johnny carson stuff, you're not doing johnny carson. even when you're not tough on
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the president, you're serious about these issues. why do you do that? that's extra work for you. >> there are issues so fraught we haven't been able to succeed then we do put that away until we can find way to talk about it that's also comic. but then we do a lot of silly and dumb things as well and i'm very happy to have that, too, because i feel like we can use stupidity as an escape these days. the nice thing is audiences are willing to engage in comedy shows in a way they haven't in the past in so far as they're willing to get a degree of the news from a comedy show. i would stress get it from the news first. a supplement to the news. >> thank you for saying that on cnn. we appreciate that. >> i can't stress when people ado you feel like a journalist. i know i'm not a swrurnlist because i have to watch them on networks like this to know what to talk at. >> thank you for that endorsement and we need more of
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you'd assume you were super happy, but you were blue. you felt almost like an imposter. >> yeah. >> can you talk about that? because it's hard to imagine with someone with your level of talent feeling like an imposter. >> you have to remember is my level of talent is i'm good at sitting behind a desk telling jokes, but there's a different talent to being a huge star at snl. ultimately it work,ed out by the time i got to the update desk, but the things that make them so great were not skills i had. it was hard. you get hired there and you think if they hired me, i know what i'm doing then you realize maybe they're having doubts as well. it's scary because you go from being an improviser living chicago to being on the same cast as will farrell and you realize oh, what i thought was a fastball is not a fastball. my fastest pitch is like 72 mile% hour right down the mid m. so it was a tough time.
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i was lucky enough they believe patient with me and let me find my leane. >> i think it's important for people to know that. we're dealing with anthony bo bourdain and other people and a lot of time, people on the outside look like they're successful but on the inside, they can be going through a lot. what you have by way of advice for people going through those tough and difficult moments. not that you were at that level, but this is a very tough business you're in. >> it's true. i think one of the problems for people on the outside successful is they feel the last thing people want to hear them talk about is they're depressed. like what do you have to be depressed about? you have everything anyone could want. i think we'd be better off if more successful people were honest and shared the fact that that depression is something that chases you no matter what your status is. >> equal opportunity. >> and people shouldn't feel shame about it.
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>> you've been shown on the show, but don't talk about it as much as you might is the fact you're a dad. not only a dad, but a dad in the worst possible time. because they're both tiny people with diapers and stuff like that. you got a 2-year-old and a 2-month-old. how has that affected your life? >> i just made it clear to them, i said look, i'm a talk show host, you guys got to figure this out. i know a lot of other 2-year-olds are still wearing diapers. figure it out then -- >> they're they're great. it's the greatest time. i think for anybody. every moment with kids is the greatest time to have kids because when things are good and you're thinking, man, this only makes it better or things are bad and you think, thank god i have these guys to come home to. it's just the greatest gift in the world. it was the reaction i was trying to get. >> you say that as if you know the new one didn't have the most dramatic entrance. tell the story of how axel got here.
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>> he was born in the lobby of our apartment building. because he came really quickly. he came quick. >> so how u does this happen? i mean like one labor pain then the baby comes out? >> it basically was. we were dialed in, ready for this to start. she basically had one long contraction and we were walking to the ub ir and she said, no, i'm not going to make it. we walked back in. lobbies are, those who don't have one, they're public spaces. there's a lot, it's a thoroughfare. so it was a trip. he came really fast. once my wife like got on the ground, like he was out quick. >> what did the door man say? >> we had two. one of them now feels like he's a member of the family. very close to us. and the other one can't make eye contact. >> still in they are p pi. >> i think he's working it out. it's part of the building's dna
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now and everybody's really excited about it. i think we'll have to move when he's 12. if another one of f these people tell me they saw me born, another stranger tell me they were there. >> thinking as a dad, i just can't get out of my mind this whole separating of babies at the border from their parents. i justbothers me the united states would take people running for their lives and rath ethan welcome them here, do the worst thing you could do. as a dad, how do you think about this border crisis and what we're doing? >> stories like these are just gut wrenching. my hope would be and i'm probably being overly optimistic, but you know, not only does this stop, but we have to remember that it hasn't been great pr fiemme crossing our borders in a long time. all the administrations and democratic administrations.
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i would hope we'd like and this and say, this is so awful. we have to pass laws that clarify what our values mean when people come to this country for safe harbor. >> this doesn't bring us tolgt together, i don't know what will. neither party should be proud of what we're doing to babies. you have to look at all the tough stuff. all the bad news. other pple can turn it off. but you look at all the tough stuff. every day, and yet somehow figure out a way to keep us laughing. tell us how you continue to have the spirit to find the funny even in these times. >> i do still think there's a power we have when we laugh at something that means that we still have, we can still use joy to override anything negative that's coming toward us. i don't mean to laugh in something in way you just dismiss it, but if you can point out how insane it all is, i think that helps keep you sane and keeps bringing you back and
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that's what i'm, there's a strength to saying this isn't normal. because if you don't, if you ignore it, take a few days off krit sides sizing what the president does, maybe that mean somebody to be so abnormal and have them win by us ignoring them. >> you're doing a phenomenal service to the country. >> thank you, you, too. >> seth meyers. i love it. weeknights at 12:35, 11:35 central on nbc. please watch this brother, i love this brother and coming up, my exclusive interview with kim kardashian west. she's going to open up on her now famous oval office meeting with the president. why she was prove moved to help a great grandmother who was serving a life sentence and she's going to talk about her marriage to kanye west. you're going to learn more when we get back. simple and affordable. in fact, drivers who switched from geico to esurance
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clemency to miss johnson, who was facing a life sentence behind bars for a first time drug conviction. there was a team of talented activism lawyers, top kai sam, jessica jackson sloan, brittney barnette and others who working for years, but no question it was kim who sealed the deal when she met with president trump in the o l value office. i spoke with kim about what case meant to her, how it moved her from being a reality tv star to a social justice activist. take a look. >> well, first of all, congratulations on a big win, but also just thank you, thank you. >> thank you. >> second of f all, how did it feel to make the phone call to let miss alice johnson know that it was over, she was coming home? >> i think she thought it was a routine phone call with her attorneys and she was surprised and excited that i was on the phone. and then i was a little bit shocked because she was very calm. i had assumed she knew so i was like wait, she doesn't know?
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alice was like, know what? you're going home. like i can like cry thinki inin about it. hearing her scream, just to know we changed one person's life is like we cried maybe on the phone for like three minutes straight. everyone was just cry, then, i have to get it together. >> that's all right. i understand. it's emotional. people understand. >> i think people might think like oh, kim went to the white house. had this conversation. it was done. and that's it. this, i saw this seven months ago. and i have been daily phone calling with the white house. maybe a dozen e-mails a day trying to get letters, letter from the warden. i mean, i have to give credit to where alice's whole team has been working on this for years. i do want to give credit where credit is due to everybody that's been working so hard on this for so long for her.
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>> what was it about this case though that struck you so much? why her? because people say there's thousands and thousands of people in prison. what about my uncle, my stepson? what was it about this case that just grabbed you? >> well, i do think there's something to i had happened to be on twitter and that exact moment and saw that come across my feed. that one of the people that i follow posted a story on her and i watched it and i just really felt for her. because i felt like she's a good person. you can see that in her. that she lost her long time job. got a divorce. her son died. just all of her everything was going to bad and she got desperate and had four other babeies that she had to take cae of and she was desperate and she made choices that i feel like honestly, you know, maybe not to that extreme, but when you're in
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a desperate situation, you'll do what you have to do to take care of your kids. i would do anything for my kids and so i just felt this connection to her. like instantly, that i just, i wanted to help her. >> you have such a huge platform. you got ivanka trump's phone number. must have felt like i've got to do something. but the meeting with president trump, now that's a whole other level. >> yeah. >> how did that happen? >> well when i initially called ivanka, i said i would love a meeting with your dad. that took about six or seven months to get. and so once we got our you know the file really strong, we were able to plan a meeting and it happened to be on alice's birthday. that was the date they picked. so i was like, okay, this is just all aligned. it's this is the stars are all in our favor today. i just feel that this is the right day to do it and -- >> so you go in.
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>> we go in. >> that's crazy. normal people, kim kardashian going into the trump white house. >> the west wing. >> oval office. >> i have to say, i never get star struck. i was star struck over the oval office. like that oval office is so powerful, i just, i literally had the take a second and take into account all in and just inside. >> this is not a movie set. >> yeah. like it was, it really felt powerful. and felt like you can just feel the history in there. >> so you've been you know, tough on trump. you're not a republican. how did you handle that? >> well i think like for me, i was very focused. i knew that if i have this meeting, i can't go in there and talk about all the policies that i don't agree with. and i've always had just a very
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open dialogue with jared. about how i felt and have been even so honest to say look, trump is the last person i thought that would have done this. but he did and he pulled through and so when i got the meeting, i knew there was going to be tons of backlash. i knew people wouldn't understand it. and at that point, i had to make the decision that this was bigger than me. that i, so i'm worried about my brand. it's like and a woman's been in jail for 22 years almost. that just to me, there was like it wasn't even a question. like i would have taken the backlash no matter what the outcome would have been just to try for her. >> this is really amazing to hear you say that. you didn't know her. why did you feel that this was worth taking that kind of risk? a lot of celebrities to this day are scared to go and be in a p picture with donald trump. a lot of athletes won't go in the building. why did you make a different
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choice? >> i do still respect their choice. everyone can do what they want to do. i never judge other people. and i do think sometimes situation are dichfferent, but just am focused and i could separate my feelings on certain policies. to me, it wasn't about policies. it was about i can change someone's life and if i have the opportunity to do that, like it just wasn't even a question for me. >> so just indulge me for a second. what did he say? what did you say? how does this, i mean, i want to see the movie in my head. get up, shake your hand. did he hug you? did you salute him? >> i walk in, i had met him before he was the president. a few times. so it was a hug. and sat down and he was like okay, so what's going on? he said well what are we here
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for? i'm here because i said i want to foe why yoknow why you kickef apprentice. it was a laugh. then we got business. he felt it. he was compassionate. sympathetic to her. he said you know, this is a really long time that she's been in here. like this just isn't fair. he knew that this is the right thing to do. >> of course. no good deed goes unpunished. you go in there, get this victory. some people are very skeptical. they're like, i'm just going to throw them at you. you tell me who's right, who's wrong. this whole thing is just a pr stunt for you. you're a master media person. and you know how to get pamedia attention and this is a way to get attention for yourself. >> very false p. i could literally walk outside and like it will be some ridiculous story. >> you don't have to do anything
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extra to get it? >> i think these days, i'm trying to dodge it and stay away from it. >> number two. trump is using you as political pawn so now you're sort of, you've endorsed him in a way. you're giving him legitimacy. you might be in a campaign video. >> i think kanye's already given him legitimacy in that way. so i was working on this before. so i don't -- like for being, i don't think i would be used. you know, and at the end of the day, he heard me out. we got the job done. so i don't think like what could he really use me for. >> and when you say kanye, what do you mean? >> kanye came out, cosigned and said he loves his personality. and loves him.
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so i just, if you had got that, he's trying to use me, like how? because he already kind of got you know, a big thing you know from kanye i think. i also saw people like why don't you talk to him about this and about you know, immigration and so many other things. i care about. but i just have to stay focused and i have to know that if there's the only person in the world that could have done this for her, why wouldn't i go talk to that person if i had the opportunity to? forget about my fears. my life. that was the right thing to do. >> she says her work is not done. up next, we'll hear about how she plans to stay involved with the fight and continue working to make more good things happen and wait until you hear b about
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welcome back. kim kardashian west i help tog
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celebrate free alice johnson from prinz. i spoke with kim about her future in politics. here's what she said. let's talk about the feature. this isn't the first political thing you've done. you've u spoken out on issues. you've engaged with planned parentho parenthood. some gun safety stuff. >> that's something i ask behind the scenes, not to the president. what's going on? is the conversation of the armenian genocide being recognized ever going to happen and you know, so yeah, there's things that i do care about and things that i want to know and things i would love to be more involved. just seeing this success was i think gives the whole team hope. >> yes. and if i can be used as a vessel and they could all use me, they can use me. you know, but the attorneys. they can, i think everyone on
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the, on that side knows that, that i'm we're all in it together and we just all have the same goal and if i am the voice that goes in and tries to, i mean there's over 3,000 people in the same exact situation as alice and it's not that, it just so happened to be b that alice was on my screen at that moment at that time when i was on, but it doesn't mean that we're going to stop here. >> what have you learned in this past six months, seven months that make you say i want to keep doing this. >> i told sean, the attorney, i was like can we start a firm? like let's do this. just get the best people together. if i could be the vessel, i'm, i could bring awareness. >> dad was a lawyer. >> is this in your blood? >> i really think that it is. anyone that knows me, my whole other team of attorneys, every
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time i go in there, i'm like if there wasn't the long college process, i would be ab attorney. but i just research that in the state of california, i could assist an attorney for three years and just take the bar. >> be barrel jibl. >> yeah. so you never know. >> this could go. >> now once you get the law degree, people are going to say would you ever run for office? >> oh, i don't think that's even on my mind. >> it could happen. >> i know. that's why kanye loves him. it's the idea that anything can happen. >> so could anything happen with -- >> i guess never say never, but that's not going to be like kim's running. that's not where i'm, what i'm going for. i just want to help starting one person at a time and i think sometimes if more people would just put their personal feelings aside and talk about really important issues that have to be
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discussed, then so much more can get done. >> politics is rough. being a celebrity is rough, but d.c. is really rough. you sure you want to stick your fork in that socket again? >> i am never going to claim to be the most political person. but i know that i had a feeling inside when i helped someone. just seeing the videos. i was crying watching the videos and seeing her just be reunited with her family. >> that video. >> that video. >> you know, you sound like a mama bear now. is being a mom and having these three little people in your life, is that affecting the way you want to use your platform? i don't know. feels that way. >> absolutely. i think i'm always going to be me. and i always will do things that
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make me feel good about myself or live my life or film my show and you know whether just i'll till always be me, but there's a new side of me. i think just like past life experiences becoming a mom, situations that i've been in that have really changed me. i think i've realized that i can't just, if i have this platform, it would be such waste if i didn't use it to change someone's life. >> yeah. you talk about redemption and second chance. in some ways, you're fighting to give her a second chance then people try and stuff about your past on you. i think you're in a position now to give maybe advice to folks because you've come under a lot of fire. you keep on keeping on. keep on achieving things. how? do you pray? do you have a therapist? yoga? how can people kind of follow what you're doing because it's hard out here. people have -- >> it really is. and i feel like the last few
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weeks in my life have been really, really hectic. it was in the last stages and i felt like it was happening and i had anxiety. and i just like never really do. i just, i got an app, a calming app. i was like searching and took my time-out to take a deep breath and just do that a few times and really like get it together, but i also to me, the negativity, i mean sometimes it does wear you down. but to me, it always pushes me through. and i always want to i don't know if it's on purpose or not, but i always want to prove those people wrong and i always do o into a situation thinking of the best case scenario and thinking of the worst case scenario, but always trying to get that best case. no matter what it is.
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no matter you know, but there are times when it's a lot. when there's just so many eyeballs on you and there's so much attention. positive and negative. both can like one can like fill your head up too much. one can tear your spirit down. it's like just sometimes you have to tune it all out. just take a deep breath. i don't have a therapist. but you know, i have a really good supportive family and i think that we're kind of each's therapists. >> now you may have heard a little bit about some continue ver sy that was stirred up by kim's husband, kanye west recently. i talked to kim about their relationship and how she handles those situations when we get back.
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welcome back to "the van jones show." the only person who makes as many headlines as kim is her husband kanye west. especially when he makes controversial comments expressing support for our very polarizing president and other topics. i spoke to kim about her marriage to the often provocative musical art worst she shares her life with and family with. take a look at what she has to say. you're marry to a creative genius. a lot of us have creative folks in our lives and get themselves in trouble and that kind of stuff. as a partner of a creative genius who sometimes gets himself in trouble. >> yeah. >> what do you think the most important thing you can do in that relationship to be supportive, to keep that -- >> yeah.
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i think just being that support system. you know? even if you don't see eye to eye and there's a lot going on. i think always being real and always -- like we have, like, really good communication. so we always, no matter what it is, if i agree, if i don't agree, i'm always there. and i think he knows that. and, you know, it is tough when there's so -- everything's so public. and, you know, especially even album time and staying up and helping, you know, just trying to get it done and helping that person get their creative ideas out i think that is just really important. it's just to be supportive. doesn't mean you agree with everything. but it means that you're supportive and you're there to talk them through their situations and just i love him, you know. so it's just -- it's kind of a
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no-brainer for me just to be there. >> i think about the journey you're on now. i mean, you have 120 million instagram followers. i mean, that's biggern most countries i think. i mean, 60 million twitter followers. you do have the ability to make a big impact. some people will say, listen, you know, i'm still not convinced. just give people one more opportunity to understand that people grow and change. >> yes, i mean, i've just been through so much in my life that just, it would -- i guess that whole, like, lifestyle of me being shallow and cars and stuff that we've, you know, who we were and that's just not who i am today. and it doesn't mean that i don't like, you know, a flashy photo shoot and, you know, i made a joke, i got this influencer award for fashion and i made a joke like, i'm always naked, how did i win this award for
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fashion, you know. and, hey, that's a part of me too. but this is a new part of me. and it doesn't mean that all of that other stuff has to go away and i'm this political person and i'm, you know -- i am me and i care about people and i want to use my platform to help other people. it's not always about me. >> well, you're off to a tremendous start, i'll tell you that. >> thank you. i really appreciate that, thank you. [ applause ] >> thank you, kim kardashian west. look, i think she is proof of just the transformative power of becoming a parent, frankly. and speaking as a parent the eve of father's day tomorrow, i just want to come back to this crisis on our border. you know, i just cannot imagine somebody taking away my children from me. me not knowing where they are, not knowing how they're doing. i can't -- i just can't imagine. listen, if any of us were on the
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