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better treatment than its lan longstanding allies? i will talk to president obama's national security adviser, susan rice, about this role reversal. what do the allies on this side of the pond think of the g7 dust-up and the trump's tariffs. i will speak with britain's former foreign minister. i will tell you about the biggest corruption scandal maybe in the history of the world. it's called operation car wash. you will not believe the scale and the people who have been brought down. finally, a lighter note.the grk in the digital age and the era of me too. here is my take. america will remain the world's dominant power in the 21st century only if it is the

dominant pacific power. lee, the founder of modern singapore and one of the smartest minds i have ever met, spoke about this issue late in life as he worried about the brkdown of the stability that had allowed for the extraordinary global growth of the last half century. the key he was certain was deep american engagement in asia which was quickly becoming the center of global economics and power. donald trump appears to be doing everything he can to violate lee's dictum. the media got the singapore summit wrong. the real headline should have been, u.s. weakens its 70-overalliance with south korea. the most striking elements of trump's initiative were not simply he lavish eed praise on king but he announced the cancellation of military exercises with south korea, adopting north korea's rhetorically calling them

provocative. the president must have missed his briefing. in fact, it is north korea that provokes and threatens south korea as it has done since it first invaded the south in 1950. north korea is believed to have around a million active duty troops, almost double the south. has constructed perhaps as many as 20 tunnels to mount a surprise invasion. it also has more than 6,000 pieces of artillery that can reach south korea, including some whose range is so long, that 32.5 million people are in danger. they estimate in the event of war, using simply artillery, north korea would kill 250,000 people in seoul alone. of course, north korea now also has up to 60 nuclear bombs complete with the missiles that could potentially deliver them to the south.

south korea's war games with the united states, as president trump called them, are not war games but a necessary set of defensive exercises undertaken in the shadow of an aggressive adversary. even worse, trump signalled he with like to end themerican troop presence in south korea. he is wrong this would save money unless he plans to demobilize those troops since south korea covers almost half the cost of u.s. troops stationed there. that's beside the point. through bitter experience, the united states has found it is better to have troops ready, battle trained and with knowledge of the local geography rather than keeping them in the u.s. only to be sent abroad when trouble breaks out. a few commentators have pointed out the big wing erwinner of th singapore summit was china. that's right. consider what china has always wanted. the stabilization and security of north korea and the removal of american troops from asia, especially from the mainland.

for china, the trump administration has been the guest that keeps on giving. even whenmp confronts china as he has on trade now, he has totally undermined his own efforts by alienatingers allies in europe and japan rather than having them join together to put collective pressure on china. don't forget, trump began his term in office by pulling out of the transpacific partnership, which was created specifically to stand as an alternative to the chinese market and a bustopo this. the long game for the united states over the next few days is how to handle rise of china. right now, we are quitting the field. for more, go to cnn.com/fareed and read my column this week. let's get started.

there's so much to talk about. let's get right to it with my guest today, susan rice, who was the u.s. ambassador to the united nations for the first obama term and part of the second, until she became the president's national security adviser. welcome back to the show, ambassador rice. >> great to be with you. >> so president trump now says that there is no nuclear threat from north korea. do you feel that way? >> obviously, that's a laughable statement, except it's not funny, because the situation is so serious. no, that is a blatantly false statement. in fact, the threat from north korea remains as clear as present today as it did a week ago. it's quite disturbing to me that the president would continue to repeat the mantra that the

nuclear threat is eliminated when, in fact, we haven't seen begun serious substantive negotiations. all he got out of the summit meeting, which was better than no summit meeting in the sense that now we are talking to one another and diplomacy has pontial, was in fact, a very, very, very vague commitment that north korea would take steps towards complete denuclearization. not even commit to complete denuclearization, which as you know, is a far cry from even the commitments that have been made twice in the past. so we have a long way to go. a dialogue has begun. but the threat remains the same. in fact, in the event that this diplomacy were to break down and the two leaders with very vast egos find their hopes dashed, i

think the potential for the risk of conflict goes up. >> what would you say to people, like the president -- one of his tweets and certainly supporters said, look, nobody else was able to this. i'm not sure what the do this is. he did it. he met with kim jong-un. he has broken the ice. he has gotten a process going. the establishment doesn't get it. >> certainly, it's the first head of state meeting between two sitting heads of state of north korea and the united states. that is, in fact, unprecedented. if it leads to a verifiable, irreversible, commitment to complete denuclearization, that is then verified and validated as having been fully implemented, then donald trump truly will have done something that hasn't been done before. thus far, what he has accomplished in substance, apart from the fact of the meeting, is a very vague statement that

falls far short of previous commitments that north korea has made. it makes no mention of verifiable denuclearization. makes no mention of irreversible. the reason why these words are past, as you know, they have interpreted complete denuclearization to mean something very different than we mean it. so the fact is, we have very vague commitments. no guarantee that they will lead to anything more substantive than in the past. but we have an opening. and we ought to pursue that opening. now is the time for very concrete, rigorous diplomacy led by experts that get into the very complicated details and figure out if, in fact, we have a substantive basis on which to make progress. >> do you think kim jong-un was the better deal maker, negotiator at the summit? >> i'm afraid the answer to that

is yes. again, he committed to less than his father and grandfather. he got an equally broad security commitment from the united states, very vague. but what he really got was the opportunity for the first time to be on the international stage as an equal with the president of the united states and all the trappings and flags designed to make him look like an equal, something his father and grandfather had sought for years to achieve and never did. and more seriously, what he got was the president's unilateral commitment to end what the president called war games with our south korean allies on the peninsula. the fact remains that this was a bigger success by most objective measures for north korea than it was for the united states. i recognize that you wouldn't see it that way if you were simply to listen to president

trump's spin on all of this. bu in substance, i think that's a fair assessment. >> president trump says that your boss, barack obama, was willing to go to war with north korea. do you have a sense as to what he is referring to? >> i really don't. i don't know what he is referring to. i spent eight years closely involved in the national security decision making of the obama administration. while there were moments when north and south korea came to heightened tensions, there was never a moment when the united states and north korea were on the brink of war. >> ambassador rice, stay with us. when we come back, we will talk about president trump and trade wars. china said in an angry statement on friday that the united states had regrettably launched a trade war against it. is that good policy or bad policy? i will ask susan rice when we come back.

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on friday morning, the white house announced 25% tariffs on some $50 billion of chinese products. the response from beijing was fast and furious. the commerce ministry released a statement saying america had launched a trade war, that china would retaliate and all economic and trade agreements reached by previous negotiations will be nullified. is this bluster or is it the start of a trade war? president obama's national security adviser susan rice joins me again. susan, what do you make of this? is it $50 billion compared to u.s./china trade is not that large a number. what is going on in your view? >> i think this is the start of a tit for tat economic conflict

that could escalate well beyond $50 billion on each side. what is unfortunate is the president gave up a very strong card he had in his hand with respect to zte. and zte's theft of u.s. intellectual property and its violation of sanctions. and now got seemingly nothing in return for that concession and the imposition of now these new tariffs on the chinese and the retaliation by the chinese, we are walking down a potentially slippery slope. we have reasons to be concerned about china's trade practices, theft of intellectual property among many other things. the way to resolve this is not at the expense of american workers and manufacturers and farmers, by getting into a trade

war that has potential real global ramifications. at the same time as we are going down the same foolish path, much more foolish, with our closest allies in europe as well as with canada and mexico. it's very hard to see how we advance jobs and growth in the united states in the context of what has the potential to become a multi-front global trade war. >> again, what i think trump would say is, nobody else was doing this. i'm looking out for american manufacturers. when their goods get to china, they have large tariffs on them. i'm insisting that if that's the case, we're going to reciprocate. what's wrong with that thesis? >> well, it's factually dubious. depends on the products. depends on the sector and the industry. there are many ways in which the united states and our workers benefit from trade with china,

as well as have suffered costs and consequences. >> when you watch president trump, whether in north korea, in singapore with north korea, whether with china, what is the style that emerges? you have sat in the oval office, watched presidents make decisions. what do you think is going on? >> i think we have a leader in the president who plays his hand based on instinct. is more interested in form than substance. is really not interested in spending the time and effort to prepare and get into the details of an issue, even if he is, in fact, sitting across the table from an important eadversary lie north korea or a very difficult competitor like china. and i think he is making decisions on the fly and by gut that don't take into account our historic relationships, our

strategic interests, our values and the implications of his actions. this past week was an extraordinary combination of contrasts. he goes to the g7 where our closest allies are assembled and insults the host and disrespects each of our g7 partners who are our closest democratic allies with whom we have important economic and strategic ties. then he goes to singapore and praises and embraces the world's -- arguably the world's most vicious dictator and greatest human rights abuser, heaps praise on him, showers him with affection and comes back and declares victory. we are in a world where it seems that up is down and black is

white and we are seeing the whim of a president impact potentially and perhaps permanently america's leadership ro in the world. our network of global alliances which have kept us safe and strong. we are on the brink, potentially, of very serious economic conflict both with our allies and our major competitors. >> ambassador rice, always a pleasure. thank you so much for coming on. >> good to be with you. thank you. next on gps, it may be the biggest corruption scandal in the history of the world. my guess is you haven't heard of it. it has cost billions of dollars, brought down leaders across an entire continent. i will explain when we come back.

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calls to drain the swamp. let me tell you a story of what many believe to be the biggest corruption scandal anywhere in the world. this bribery and money laundering scheme spread throughout latin america. it is in brazil and has cost the country billions of dollars. the construction conglomerate was found to have paid $788 million in bribes to various officials and was fined $3.5 billion in 2016. according to the globe mail, five former brazilian presidents and one out of three cabinet members and one out of three senators have been indict orded investigated. it led to the impeachment of the brilian president rousseff. a federal judge in brazil presided over much of the investigation.

how did they do it? >> to be honest, investigation started very small. it was investigation about professional money laundering. following the money, the investigation grew. wow. for all of us, police officers, prosecutors, judge, not only me but other judge involved in the case, for all of us it was a huge surprise. >> it began in the capital city of brazilia in the most mundane of places, a gas station that housed a car wash in what came to be known as operation car wash. the police tapped the phone of a money transfer business housed there. in 2012, they heard the voice of alberto yousef, a money launderer. anyone linked to him came under suspicion. in 2014, police arrested yousef and another man, a former executive of brazil's state-run

oil company. yousef had given the executive a rather conspicuous gift. a range rover worth more than $100,000. this is where the judge was key. he kept them in jail before their trial, something nearly unheard of for brazil's rich and powerful. then he used their detentions to employ another relatively new legal innovation in brazil, plea deals. >> they are both criminal. they decide to cooperate with the prosecutors. >> that was the turning point. in the end, the investigation uncovered a cartel of at least 16 brazilian companies that rigged the bidding on contracts, according to "the new york times." they created the illusion of competition, but decided between themselves who got the contracts which were wildly inflated in price. officials received a cut of the inflated contracts, much of that money was diverted to politicians and political parties. it was all a game and the

players robbed the public of billions, literally. >> we have high politician, very powerful poll t fuful politicia businessmen who unfortunately committed bribery crimes and money laundering. there is no excuse for that. they have to pay the price for their wrongdoing. >> for corruption officials and businessmen, it was cooperate or perish. scores chose to cooperate. revelations in the press read like something out of a detective novel. payments were made in fine wine and sports cars, yachts and helicopters. police snatched so much art, they had to put it in a museum. then at the end of 2015, a sitting senator was arrested for obstruction of justice. he pointed his finger at a political untouchable. the former president, the leftist lion, the man president obama called the most popular politician in the world.

he stood accused of masterminding the scheme. the two battles it out in the courtroom and in the press. in 2017, the unthinkable happened. the judge convicted him of corruption. in april, amid of throng of supporters, he surrendered to serve his 12-year sentence. >> what was important in brazil is that we get -- we got a lot of support and we still have a lot of support from brazilian public opinion. >> over the course of the investigation, the judge became a hero. millions came out into the streets in support of the investigators and to protest official corruption. the story is not over. the scandal has led to discoveries about other bribery schemes, one of those led to charges of corruption against the sitting president of brazil, who has evaded trail.

moro's critics say the investigation was bad for brazil. it led to lost jobs. it sullied brazil's name. setountry up for years of political volatility and economic uncertainty. moro doesn't see it that way. in an interview he said simply, would it have been better to leave richard nixon at the presidency? >> by one side you can say that all this case of corruption, they are shameful. but there's no shameful on enforcement of the law. brazil is doing what is necessary to be done. it's a great achievement for brazilian democracy. next, after donald trump's performance at the g7 and the introduction of his tough tariffs, america's allies are upset. britain's former foreign secretary joins me here in london to tell me the view from this side of the pond.

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depression i depre depressing. i have heard many echos here of merkel's words. joining me is david milliband. welcome. >> thank you. good to be here. >> you gave a speech on the anniversary -- one of the anniversaries of the marshal plan recently. you asked the fundamental question, i think, that the g7 summit raises, some of donald trump's rhetoric raises and that many people in europe are wondering, which is, is the transatlantic alliance over. it's a question that i think is worth kwauwondering. this was created to fight the soviet union. do you think there's a danger it atrophies? >> i think it's not yet dead. it mustn't be allowed to die.

the transatlantic alliance wasn't only founded for the soviet union. it was signed four months before the u.s. entered the second world war. it was a charter for peace. >> to imagine a new world order. >> and more, it determined to learn the lessons of the period after world war i. it determined to say that, states need international institutions that mediate disputes, international institutions that foster cooperation, rather than competition, and pre-empt armed conflict rather than allowing it to fester. >> how damaging do you think -- you have been in these situations. the united states and europe have squabbled in the past. how damaging -- >> we don't yet know if this is a squall or climate change. that's the fundamental issue here. president trump clearly is bringing a new level of focus to what he perceives to be the profit and loss account of american engagement

internationally. america is the global anchor of the system. not just as a selfless agent in the interest of others. it created markets that americans benefit president trump wants to change the cost benefit analysis. that seems to me to be legitimate and reasonable. you can argue about the way in which he is doing it. every country wants the best out of its international engagement. however, it's not a zero sum game. what the post-war period proves is that you can have a positive sum game. a win-win. that's what is the issue here. that's why europeans with concerned. that's why you have this global conversation about what kind of international order are we going to have. >> on the trade issue, do you think that it's fair? he singles out canada and europe, partly because these are the united states' biggest trading partners. >> canada has a trade deficit with the united states when you look at it. you have written about this. obviously, nafta has a

particular -- tackles a pinch point for president trump. very mu he is vexed about that. that's the german focus. ironically, germany produces cars in the united states. it doesn't just export them from germany to the u.s. trade is the tip of the iceberg here. it's linked to wider questions about whether or not we want countries that share values to be cooperating together or whether it's a free-for-all in which deals are made bilaterally around the world irrespective of the value base of the countries. for europeans, there's a real sense that they have to hang together, because the danger is that when they are separated, they will be weak. when they are waeak, they are taken advantage of. >> what do you think european elites will do about this? you have seen merkel's reaction. the foreign ministers. they seem to view this as a pretty structural change in the

atlantic alliance. it's alienating european public opinion to the extent. >> here is the irony. president trump's attacks on the existing order may well lead europeans to work more closely together. it may foster greater european unity. of course, the brexit debacle undermines that. you are certainly seeing a concerted attempt by the european elites that you refer to to work together. equally, there is a scenario where you get more of the hungary, poland, italy situation chipping away at european unity. we know the costs in europe when europeans are divided. that vision of a europe united whole and free is under si it's fair to say as never before. >> is president trump viewed in europe as negatively as some of the elite media portray him? or is it fair to say for the populists in europe, maybe he is a role model? >> i think that you have to be

careful that different european countries have different views. in germany, in the uk, there's a very strong counter reaction. equally, i think it's impnt no miss that president trump is touching on some very deep concerns that are felt in europe as well as in the u.s. the notion that the middle class is shrinking is a danger in europe as well as in the u.s. it's fostering populism. it needs new answers. >> david, when you look at the situation now, do you thinkf your role as foreign minister under gordon brown, a minute -- >> happy days. >> do you think that was sort of e last gasp of this pro western internationalist globalist order and that we're going to spend decades dealing with populism, nationalism, protectionism? is this a bump -- >> i hope not. but the financial crisis and its aftermath clearly marks a new phase in the introspection

within the west. its weight in the wider world. its ability to think strategically and long term. what's the big challenge at the moment? people look and see china with the one belt, one road. they see grand strategy of a long term asia. that's the reverse of where we were at the end of the war. it was not to create dependence but to create mutual support. that was the genius of that period. that's what we need to work on again. not just across the atlantic but globally. the truth is, refugee flows, climate change, cyber security, those are global public goods that need to be nurtured internationally, not just domestically. >> david, thank you as always. up next, what happens when technology invade ours most personal connections? texting and sexting, the great

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2017 was the year of women. they fought against injustice in the women's march in january. they fought back against abuse of men in the me too movement. they won a great number of elections in november. the silence breakers were "time's" people of the year last november. what is the state of relations between men and women today? will all this turmoil lead to better and more equal ties or to suspicion and tension? there are few people better placed to answer that question than my next guest, joanna kohls was a brilliant reporter for years. then she became a brilliant editor. she's now the chief content officer at "hurst" and the author of a new book "love rules." you have worked your way

through -- >> hard-charged my way. >> a very, very difficult environment. what's your reaction to the me too movement, to all the stuff swirling around? >> i'm thrilled by the me too movement. it's fantastic that women have been able to share their stories and realize this systemic problem in our work force. but what i don't want people to lose sight of is the fact that we all have to get on together. we all want to fall in love. that's the stuff of life. it's what excites us. what we don't want is abuse of power at the heart of that. lots of unconsensual sex, which is very unappealing to everybody. >> the key it seems to me is power. you cannot in any way use your power to force a relationship -- >> you can't abuse power. i think google has introduced a rule that says you can invite a colleague out once on a date and that's enough. listen, relationships are complicated. aren't they?

clearly, we need enforcement. we need to hold people to account. you are not able anymore, i think, to abuse your power. it's not okay. >> you talk a lot in the book about this other thing that has happened, which is in some ways replaced maybe the -- so much of the socializing through the workplace, which is apps. all these various apps. i'm wondering what you make of this world. is it a good thing that we now seem to be searching for love and relationships and hookups through an app? >> i'm very pro dating app. they have the ability to connect you to people you wouldn't otherwise meet. from that point of view, they're fantastic. if you look at wedding announcements, you see a quarter of people are actually meeting and getting married from someone they met on an app. they are changing the way we communicate. you have to take care with them.

>> it does seem to be a very important transition. there's this article in i think it was "new york" magazine which pointed out the downtown bar scene has been killed by these apps. after all, what was the point of a bar? people would go to a bar or have drinks, for many people the idea was to hook up or meet somebody. there's now a more efficient thing. si at home, swipe, swipe, swipe. it feels like you are sort of doing something digitally and efficiently that was once done in the more analog, inefficient way. there was some charm to that way of doing things. >> there was charm and there was frustration. i think the feeling is now people can be much more targeted with what they're looking for. there's a bigger sweep of people through which to sort of go. >> do we have a better self that we can project through texting than we really are?

>> i quote the cyber psychologist mary aken in the book who is insightful about what happened in a computer-mediated environment when you communicate with a stranger. there are four of you in the room. the two online selves you are perfecting. the two real selves. the gaps in the knowledge of our person -- about the person you are talking to, you fill in with positive attributes. you create a false persona. when you meet them, you are often like, who is this person. >> do you think all this is creating loneliness? you think about the amount of time we're spending digitally with shopping, surfing, watching, now dating. this is all essentially happening in isolation in your room in front of a lit screen. >> it's a great question. the british government just appointed their first ever loneliness minister, which tells you that they think it's an epidemic in britain.

i think what we're doing is figuring out how to work with our devices. it's not zero sum. we're never going to put them down all together. they're not quite the little boxes of promise that we thought they were going to be. my concern is that people have lost the ability to communicate in person. eye contact. we know millennials would rather shoot themselves in the head than pick up the telephone. they hate talking on the phone. there are gaps in the conversation. you are not sure if the person is still there. it's weird. much easier to do it by texting. >> they use the phone for everything other than as a phone in. >> they do. they never, ever talk on the phone. as a result, we have a whole generation that don't know how to do it. don't know how to talk to each other and waste time texting back and forth, even to arrange a date. there's a sense of eisolationis

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the digital divide is splitting this country. we have parents who are trying to get their kids off of too much social media and computers, and then we haents who would only hope their children have access. middle school is a really key transition point, right. the stakes start changing. students begin to really start thinking about their futures. what i like about verizon's approach is that it's not limited to just giving kids new tools, it's really about empowering educators to teach in different ways, and exposing kids to more active forms of learning. giving technology is not a total solution. teaching technology, now that is.

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italy's new populist government came under fire this week for turning away the aquarius, a vessel carrying more than 600 migrants, rescued off the coast of libya. another freshly minted government agreed to take them

in. what country agreed to take in the aquarius migrants after they were shunned by italy. spain? france? greece or croatia? stay tuned. we will tell you the correct answer. my book of the week is "the origin story." i first came across david christian because i would work out to his fantastic lectures on big history. i know, very nerdy behavior. this is the book version. basically, it's the history of the universe from the big bang to now in a few hundred pages. if you read one book this year, make it this way. it's the most powerful example of interds palestinian ari scholarship that i know of. the answer to the gps challenge question is a, spain's new left wing government agreed to give safe harbor to at kwthe aquariu. the spanish foreign minister said he hoped it would help steer the eu toward treating migration as a shared problem. that's probably music to the

ears of italy's anti-immigration populists. according to the international organization for migration, 120,000 migrants made landfall in italy last year. compared to just 22,000 in spain. thanks for being part of my program this week. i will see you next week. >appy father's day. i'm brian shelter. this is "reliable sources" our look at the story behind the story. how the media works and how the news gets made. there's a lot to cover this hour, including at&t's win in court against trump's justice department. at&t now owns this channel and many others. i will break down what it means. plus, an interview you will want to see with rob reiner. he is calling the pro-trump media essentially state-run tv. first, the big umbrella story of the week. the lying, the deception, the