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>> taking the knife and dragging it across the back of nigh neck. >> what did you see in his face? >> evil. and then he started to rape me. i just thought i was going to die. >> the story of what they survived is only the beginning of their fight for justice. inside evil, the anatomy of a rape. learn about why these cases don't get made, this sunday 8:00 p.m. eastern only on hln. that's if for us tonight. we're going to get after it this monday right here on cnn. good evening, we have breaking news tonight on clashes on president trump's executive order and separating kids from their parents at the border. and in the middle of it all the president today seemed to suggest the trauma of nearly 2,300 migrant children announced to their parents and i'm quoting here, phony stories of sadness and grief.
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quo keeping them honest, what's odd about that is that the president has claimed a number of times how upset he was by what he's seen and the stories of sadness and grief were allegedly real enough to him just two days ago when he signed that order planning to undo the family separation policy he himself enacted. >> i consider it to be a very important executive order. it's about keeping families together while at the same time making sure we have a very powerful, strong border. and border security will be equal if not greater than previously. so we're going to have strong, very strong borders. but ware going to keep the families together. i didn't like the sight or the feeling of families being separated. >> so two days ago the stories were real enough to take executive action. today they're phony. a short time after tweeting that
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the president hosted an event to portray undocumented immigrants in the harshest light possible. an event of families who had a loved one killed by an undocumented immigrant. >> the word, permanently. they're not separated from a day or two days. they are permanently separated because they were killed by criminal illegal aliens. >> keeping them honest, the president's clearly trying to portray the people you see being separated from their children in the worst possible light, equating them as dangerous criminals, rapests and murderers. at that same gathering the president also per perchuted the falsehood of undocumented immigrants and crime. >> you heard that, i hear it so much and i say is that possible? the answer is it's not true.
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they're like better people than what we have than our citizens, it's not true. >> well, the notion that people disagree where the president's confusing policy are arguing that undocumented immigrants are better people than american citizens, that's a false notion. it's a lie designed to anger american citizens and pit them against one another. there are numerous studies that show up documented immigrants do not commit more crimes. in fact, just the opposite. but that doesn't mean anyone is saying they're better than citizens. the president knows that, but he makes the argument to fit the narrative to demonize people, even children. today the president told congress to just forget about it for now. republicans should stop wasting their time on immigration until after we elect more senators and congressman, women in november. demes are just playing games, have no intention to solve this decades old problem. we can pass great legislation after the red wave. last night we heard from sicind
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madrid whose 6-year-old daughter was taken away from her 11 days ago. in a moment we'll tell you some new information, some news about her and others. first, the ongoing challenges outside a detention center in texas. he joins us. nick, you also spoke with a pro bono immigration attorney today who was able to go into the facility. what did she tell you? >> reporter: it took her three hours to get inside this detention center even though she had all the proper paperwork to see her clients. once she did get inside she said the conditions were pretty good. she said there was a lot of confusion with most detainees having no idea where their kids are. >> a lot of the children -- a lot of the parents have not
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spoken with the children. when i asked the guard last night what can we do to make sure this happens, i was told they just to put in a request. when i explained we had eight requests put in for one person, they said we'll try to follow up with it. this morning when i made a complaint i spoke with nice officer who said i can follow up directly. what about the people who hasn't had a chance to meet an attorney, they're in the same boat. and they can't even send a letter to their child if they want to. there's no communication between their child. >> reporter: what is going to be a painstakingly long process. >> from what i understand it could take up to month for parents to be reunited with their kids? >> that's correct. we were told by ooez this is where families were going to be
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reunited. and when we showed up we heard from multiple attorneys who came out of this facility, it's going to be a month at best. we also heard these detainees are not being communicated with properly. and some of them are just finding out this zero-tolerance policy has been dropped. and certainly a lot of confusion brewing because of the lack of confusion. >> more breaking news. confusion, chaos over president trump's executive order, clashes over what to do next. nor the policy super seeded was especially thought out especially with regard to implementation. white house correspondent michael sheer on the byline has the very latest. michael, it's remarkable reporting. can you walk us through what happened last night at the white house and again this morning? >> right, so after the president's executive order on wednesday which was as we know
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very sudden. this was not something that was a deliberate prauz, something that came about with a lot of forethought. and we've seen the results of that. there was a lot of confusion at the border. different parts of the government didn't really know how to implement it. so by thursday night a meeting convened in the situation room, at the white house, about two hours long. all the different agencies were there. so you had dod, dhs, you had hhs, you had the border patrol agencies, and of course the white house. and they all basically sat around, and what i'm told is in a very tense meeting essentially arguing about how do we implement this and continued the next day, friday morning where the commissioner of the customs and border protection came back to the white house. and i'm told essentially the meetings continued all through the day friday as they struggled with how do we actually put in place, how do we do zero-tolerance, the policy the president wants there to be so there's no catch and release as the president says?
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how do they do that while at the same time keeping these families together? it's a real monumental task that involves all these agencies working together, and they're trying to do it on the fly. >> and i guess according to reporting customs and border protection are the ones raising the biggest alarms about this since they're the front line agents and officers. >> reporter: right. so, you know, a family comes across, mom and dad come across, they've got a little, you know, child with them illegally across the border. they raise their hands and say here we are. it's the customs and border protection agents that are going to be those folks that are going to take them into custody. they're the ones on the border, the literal border. and they've got to figure out how to sort of process them, their initial entry into the system. do they hand them over to justice for immediate prosecution? do they hand them over to dhs and i.c.e., which is the immigration system? and they are, we're told, the
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agency that's most concerned with, look, we just don't have the resources. they told us that one of the -- one of the things they've said is that justice department, the lawyers, there aren't enough prosecutors, there aren't enough judges to actually process all these people, and they're raising a red flag. >> you also report that before the president signed the executive order on wednesday he was repeatedly changing his mind about what he was going to do. do we know why? >> reporter: we don't. look, the sense that we have is that the president up until the last minute was convinced by both his own set of beliefs but also the hard line advisers that are around him, steven miller, i'm sure your viewers have heard about. he was the architect of those ideas. despite the heart breaking terrible images of these
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families being separated he should stick with. and it wasn't until the last moment he vacillated back and forth and said i've got to do something. if your viewers will remember the travel ban sort of chaos from the beginning of the administration, it was very similar in which a lot of these questions about how they find space, where they find space, those should have been -- in a normal separation should have been hashed out well before a president signed his name on an executive order. but in this administration they've just sort of done things backward. >> thanks very much. now a fact check on how much of any of this confusion, chaos and pain actually have happened at all. that and the legal angle. first of all, just in terms of what michael is saying about this policy clearly wasn't thought it, it seems there's more and more evidence of that every single day.
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general kelly, when he was head of homeland security he was talk about the possibility of separating families on television. but it doesn't seem there was planning at that time. >> there's no clear guidance in the field because there's no clear plan in washington. you can't rollout a plan like this especially one involving kids without doing the legwork in advance, the budgeting and all the logistical work at the white house so you can get clear guidance to the field so there's no confusion. this is clear pattern with the administration going back to the travel ban initially. this time we're dealing with kids, though. >> and under flores you were saying they were talking about military camps. it's more than just a 20-day limit on kids. there's actually regulations how kids have to be -- >> you have excellent career people in the government who understand all these various complications. so when you see the executive order coming out and saying, hey, we're going to build a
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20,000 person family detention center at the military, you look at that and say this doesn't comply with flores, and in ply estimates i think it's going to cost at least 2 to $3 billion. i.c.e. has 2,000 beds and spend $250 million on that right now annually. you times that by 10 you're looking at $3.5 billion. there's no money for that. >> it's much, much worse. this is president, he claims he has this enormous authority. he can fire comey, whoever he wants and suddenly he doesn't have power under article 2. what he can do is issue three orders immediately. no future separation, that's number one. number two, no detention of any child beyond 20 days in compliance with flores.
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number three, immediate reunification of all separated families within three to five days. he can issue that order and say all departments work within those constraints. look, the president complained manafort went to jail. if manafort can wear a bracelet, all these people can wear bracelets. it's cheaper to do and raise the rate from 75% who show up to 95%. no, it won't be 100%, but perfection is thenomy of the good. the president has the power to do the right thing. and there's no excuse for this article 2 president not to invoke his powers to do the right thing. >> do you think that's basically what it's going to boil down to, releasing the parents with their kids? >> the president is saying i'm going to continue the zero-tolerance, the same everybody but we're going to reunite the kids. the problem with that is you now have kids scattered around the
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country. so, a, finding the kids and bringing them back is difficult. you have kids in foster facilities where there are various state laws and federal laws in place regarding the conditions in which that child is going to be confined and what's in the best interest of the child. how is it in the best interest of the child to bring them back into a detention facility that doesn't comply with flores? >> you can't yank them out and transport them -- >> it's not that simple. once they get taken away, it gets a lot more complicated. release the parents, put them on a bracelet, give them an expedited court date. you still have border security, but you also have humanitary and also families together. >> and the professor mentioned 95% return on that policy. that happens. >> yeah, the fruseration on catch and release is not this idea that people abskocond from court. the problem is we never gave
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them court dates. they're not truly independent courts. they're executive courts under the department of justice. when you release those family members when ended up happening was you get two, three, four-year court dates. if you're a border hawk that sure feels like amnesty. the person came in, they cheated the system and their family never got ordered or deported. there's a simple way to fix that. put them on the bracelet, expedite the hearing. >> professor, do you agree there needs to be more judges on this? there's something like a backlog of 700 cases. >> this is serious matter. when you tell somebody they can't come into the country and they're going to be detained, we have to have the resources to back that. and the resources require expedited trials. i would like to see a flores
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decision say that unless you're brought to trial within 90 days you get to stay in the country free, and then they can set a date in the future when they can have a trial. but in the meantime bring the families together. you can't use the lack of resources as an excuse to keep families separated and to cause this permanent trauma. the president has the power to do it. if he doesn't think he does, i would be happy to write a constitutional brief telling him he has that power. the question is does he have the will to do the right thing? >> great to have you. coming up breaking news. the girl heard on that audiotape has finally gotten at least one thing she and her mom have been hoping for quite a while now. and later, a day after she wore the jacket that had the words i really don't care, do you, melania trump took to twitter. we'll tell you what she said today.
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propublica has been able to speak with her mother now. until yesterday she and her mother were not able to speak directly. first, i want to remind you of the original recording. so what have you learned, garret? >> reporter: this shelter in the heart of phene is where allison, the 6-year-old girl is living, 1,300 miles away from her mother cindy who's in tex. they had communicated since
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then, but that has now all change. a statement has been released by the company southwest key which owns this shelter and many others. the statement reads, the child was able to speak with her mother for 30 minutes yesterday. we are continuing to provide this child with excellent care and are advocating for safe reunification on her behalf as well as continued communication with her mother and aunt. she had talk today her aunt earlier. due to the need to protect the privacy of the children in our care, we cannot speak about the specifics of her arrival. before we got the statement, anderson, we were trying to find answers. we walked up to this facility, walked up to the gate, we weren't allow inside. we were able to talk to an employee on a call box. i understand you won't let us in, but can someone come out here and fill us in on the condition of this little girl? >> yeah, we're not allowed to speak to media at all. >> reporter: is there anyone in there, though, who the boss who can talk to us? >> no, there isn't.
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>> reporter: how's the little girl doing? >> i'm sorry, i really can't give any information about the little girl. >> reporter: i didn't hear what you said. >> i cannot give any information of the little girl. it's violating her privacy. >> reporter: it's too much privacy because she's not allowed to talk to her mother. that's the precise point she's here. just let us know she's healthy. >> all the minors in the facility, they're doing fine and they're okay. >> reporter: you just told me all the minors inside are okay, so i just want to make sure that includes allison. she's okay, too? >> all the minors in here are well-taken care of. and i'm sorry i just can't to answer anymore questions, okay? have a nice day. >> reporter: have a nice day. after that statement, after e-mails, after phone calls that we made all day, we got that statement from southwest key, that mother and daughter have indeed talked. in addition a source with knowledge of the situation does
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say they tried to setup southwest key a conversation between mother and daughter, anderson, three days ago. the mother was supposed to call but she's being detained and was not able to call for whatever reason. they also say there's another call scheduled for this tuesday afternoon. >> is there information about when they may be reunited. >> reporter: so the mother has absolutely no idea when she'll be reunited with her daughter. and neither do her lawyers, nor her advocates. right now anderson it's 110 degrees in phoenix. we are told the air-conditioning in the shelter is working fine and there's plenty of food and water for the children. coming up the jacket that melania trump wore to the child detention center in texas with the sign "where i really don't care do you" generated a lot of headlines. now its her tweets getting a lot of attention. details on that ahead.
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housed. of course the shock was that jacket, the one that said on the back, i really don't care do you, the one her spokesperson said had no hidden message and one the president said had a message after all. the explanation about the media seeming to defy logic. today on twitter saying the shelter was very touching and not mentioning the jacket. this followed by a tweet a couple of days ago who wrote ippart, congress must now act and find a lasting solution consistent with our shared values so many come here seeking to create a better life for their families. amanda, i hear the first lady is supposed to be one of the moderating influences on the president regarding immigration. i'm wondering how much of that was squandered by the sign of the back of her jacket. i don't know anybody exactly
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knows what the intent was other than there was some sort of intent. >> i have a theory. i agree with her there was no hidden message. i think there was a message broadcast loud and clear not to us in the media, not to the migrant children but to her husband. melania trump speaks with fashion and has in very controversial ways to her husband. let's recall after the "access hollywood," she donned that beautiful blouse and everyone understood that message. after the stormy daniels affair was revealed she wore a beautiful white pantsuit. i think this jacket which she put on leaving washington and once again in washington was a message to her husband saying i just don't care, do you. she did not care to coordinate that trip with the white house. it was unannounced.
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she went unilaterally. i think she's speaking to trump and she doesn't care what anyone else thinks because she is consumed with that drama. >> i'm wondering what you make of this jacket, which is still kind of a topic of discussion. i mean it's a designer zara, which apparently she doesn't really wear very much. ivanka trump wears a lot. perhaps it might have been a message to ivanka trump in some way. what do you think? >> i do think because the president brought it up and he had his own theory about the jacket that he expressed in his tweet that it is, he sort of made it the news, right. we shouldn't be two focused on it, but now he's focused on it and that makes it more of a story. but i could not have said it better than what amanda said. i think she came out the first state visit and she appeared in that white suit with that white hat and absolutely sucked all of
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the oxygen out of everything that entire day was about that. and i think she sort of trolls her husband. and i do think that is message. i think be willing to wear a zara jacket that cost $39 is great for her. i admit this whole time that i'm speaking about a double standard, that we would be alarmed if michelle obama or laura bush had done this. we would be. we would say what's going on? did they fall and hit their head? what is this message? but melania trump is in a very bizarre situation. she's making the best of it, dignified. the polar opposite of her husband. she doesn't use the media and she doesn't like the spotlight. she doesn't want to bring attention to herself. she didn't wear the jacket in the facility. that was very obvious and intentional. at the facility it was about the children, but she made the story
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of the day about her, no matter how much ramping that was going to go on in that room. >> i do think the supporters are saying it's ridiculous to focus on the message on the back of it first lady's jacket, but to amy's point if micelle obama had worn a jacket with the words i don't care, people's heads would have exploded. there is this double standard. it's almost like one of those, you know, on 24 you see a hostage vid eo where people are blinking a secret message to somebody. you can't ignore when the first laidee of the united states is wearing a sign-on her back in the most public way possible. >> i think we can say, okay,
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this is message she's sending to her husband, she's trying to be this influence. but it's also an incredibly unnecessary you've dramatic move. we're caught up in the drama from her and her husband. she did take the focus away from those poor children. which i was really rooting for her on this trip. i thought it was excellent she was going. supposedly talking to her father about the images and not going down there. i was thrilled the first lady decided to go down. but once she decided to put on that jacket, for whatever reason she took the focus off the children and made the controversial for what i think is no good reason. zb >> ivanka has always pitched herself as compassionate to children and mothers. it seems she was getting attention for having had influenced on her father. i'm wondering if melania trump,
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if this may have been directed towards ivanka for kind of grabbing credit. because the president referenced melania trump as being an influence on his opinion. >> this is very interesting tension. remember we're sort of talking about melania trump that ended up in this situation where the president won the presidency, and living in that bubble, in that fishbowl. and now, you know, she didn't sign-up to be a senior advisor the way ivanka trump did. ivanka trump could take serious accountability for this issue. she could see to it that they decided on a policy, that they get out of a state of confusion, that they find a system where these 2,000 kids can be be located. melania i think wanted to make a statement how important this issue is.
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>> appreciate it. coming up next, how this is playing out on the border through the eyes of people now struggling to implement the president's executive order. ♪ ♪ ♪ i love you baby applebee's 2 for $20, now with steak. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. and now for the rings. (♪) i'm a four-year-old ring bearer with a bad habit of swallowing stuff. still won't eat my broccoli, though. and if you don't have the right overage, you could be paying for that pricey love band yourself. so get an allstate agent,
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tonight's breaking news on clashes between top officials over implementing the president's border policy, am executive order gives a top down view of the problem. right now what appears to be a policy train wreck is unfolding through the eyes of the people on the border. martin savidge reports. >> reporter: it's the start of a deadly season, summers in arizona's desert. down from 110. the land is parched and so rugged it can shatter bones. there are many dangers here. last week a u.s. border patrol agent was shot multiple times. he survived. the gunman, they say, likely a drug trafficker or human smuggler that got away. agent dan hernandez along with other members of u.s. customs and border protection watch over a 260-mile stretch of border. >> on a given day we patrol an area the size of new jersey.
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>> new jersey? >> it's a massive -- >> reporter: tucson, most agents here patrol alone constantly sf spied on by human traffickers just over the way. >> as we're talking right now there's two scouts up on that ridge top. >> reporter: the job's never been easy but the president's executive flip-flop hasn't helped. >> u.s. customs and border protection took steps immediately to implement the president's executive order. >> reporter: separated family members still in border patrol custody are still being reunited. he can't speak for those in the hands of other agencies. >> a family would not be prosecuted unless one had another record and an individual coming across would be prosecuted for breaking the law. >> yes. >> reporter: but what about the president's argument? the heart breaking policy was a
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deterrent to keep others from crossing illegally. have you seen a decline? our numbers have remained steady, but we also haven't been doing this long enough. >> reporter: little to no impact to border crossing, but the damage to border patrol may be immense. when you saw those pictures, when you heard that audio, what were you thinking? >> the picture of the children crying? i mean it's something that we've seen in the past. in 32 years i've seen a lot of those situations up and down the border. so, you know, it is something. it is something that goes at your heart. >> reporter: rank and file agents tell me they worry the public will continue to blame them for a president's failed policy. there are people who believe that your agents were ripping children out of the hands of their parents. is that true? >> false narrative. i mean at the end of the day it's a process that we have. >> reporter: meanwhile agent hernandez continues to patrol in the heeat and hills of southern
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arizona. you can now keep undocumented immigrants he finds together. but in this deadly landscape he's more concerned with just keeping them alive. >> martin joins us now. what's your understanding what happens to families after they've been processed for deportation? >> this is an ever evolving process. first of all, the sbp is saying now they expect all families in their custody to be renited together by the end of the day. those detaped, and you can see the customs patrol and border agents they detain whoever crosses that are illegal, take them to the back of the station, try to determine who they are, in other words, are they who they say they are and are they really the parents of the minors they're with. if this is legitimate family, the next step in the process is
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to notify i.c.e. for that process they come, collect them and take them over to their world. and that's where the deportation process goes. could be too directions. one is the family can ask and request asylum. they begin that process. more than likely, though, it's going to be the deportation process and eventually they're sent back to the country from where they began. that's how it was explained to me. >> and you said likely those who were separated by the end of the day they're to be reunited. where will they go once their reunited? >> that's the part we still don't know. when i asked they couldn't say. when i asked earlier today they had no idea. every hour it changes. up next, the so-called angels in orange helping the forgotten on the streets. the champions for change when we continue.
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comcast, building america's largest gig-speed network. throughout the week we've been bringing you our special series, stories of people who really make a big difference in the world. bill weir shows us how his champions a fighting a problem close to his heart here in new york city. take a look. >> in the richest city in the world a place with so much to see, it's a sight that makes so many look away. >> hello. >> but they lean in. >> hello. are you okay? >> rain or shine or constant rejection, they refuse to forget the forgotten because they know with enough compassion, they can
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turn a life like this -- >> look how great by closet is. shelves for my shoes. i meant my sneakers up there. >> -- into one like this. >> look how big my bathroom is. bam. >> this is robert. >> i have a shower. and i got a hand shower. >> and he's excited about his apartment because for a decade he lived here. >> this is your old home? >> where i got the aneurysm. >> he sneered at those angels in oregano for years until a near-death experience urged him to trust for a change. >> my real sorry is about these people. they saved my life. they saved my life. >> i think about that story a lot walking around my city. and i wonder, if we repeated it enough times in enough cities, could america rid itself of
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homelessness? you see a sick and lost person on the street every day, you feel sorry and give them a couple bucks or buy them a sandwich. years of data shows us that good intention actually feeds bad habits. and a vicious cycle of emergency rooms and drunk tanks. what that personal really needs is a home. instead of the money, maybe you give them a the card to a place like urban path ways, charities that believe in housing first. >> it's not as complicated as it appears. if you can provide people with stable housing with support, they will do the work to find their dignity. >> which is different from the old model, right. >> total different. >> with the old model a person had to get clean and sober
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first. they had to get housing-ready but years in shadows can make this near impossible. >> my giant microwave that i love so much. [ laughter ] s. >> they do so much better with a place of their own. >> this is a long way from a park bench. >> oh, yeah, and the subway. >> and the best part is to see them come through at the end. just down the line you see them, you won't even recognize them. >> in over 20 years of outreach, martha has seen so many transformations, including charles, her street team partner. >> you were on the street? how old? >> 18. >> how did you get out? >> my family didn't approve of me being gay, so i left. i just got my first apartment and i'm 33. >> congratulations. >> while they're out here building trust, their colleagues are building homes with a creative mix of public and
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private financing. >> on behalf of your friends at urban path ways, welcome home. >> thank you, sir. >> after losing his mom to arkansas and his home to a scammer landlord, thanks to adorns like extell development and a small government subsidy, his new apartment cost the same as keeping him alive with shelters and emergency rooms. >> ask any new yorker, would you rather spend $22,000 a year and have a person sleep on a sidewalk or have them live in an apartme apartment zbliektsds the goal is to start working again. i want to get my social work degree. >> okay. give a little back? >> exactly. absolutely. give a little back. >> and that is why the angels of
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urban pathways are are my role models. >> i want you to hang on to this card. >> my champions for change, proving what can happen with a little old fashioned compassion and a new idea. >> you trust me? >> i trust you. >> bill weir joins me now. this group is doing such good work. >> it is amazing. already since we started sharing this story they've been flooded with such compassion from people who want to either help out or need homes. never thought we would tract homeless folks who has this and say i need a roof over my head. but when you give them dignity, you give them a sense of security, because these people have been living in perpetual survival mode, sometimes for decades, which makes it impossible to get sober and get your head straight. but now once inside, they can apply for a job, get medication, see their families again for the first time. >> bill, thanks very much.
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it's unclear from congressional lawmakers will vote on a compromise bill on immigration next week. president trump now suggests they wait until after the midterm elections making it easier to pass the legislation. senator marco rubio, one time campaign rival of president trump and a child of cuban immigrants does not support the family separations but he does back some of what the president says about immigrants. rubio talked with david axelrod for tomorrow night's episode of "the ax files." take a look. >> 98% of these people are being charged with a misdemeanor. they don't have criminal history. is it fair to depict them that way? >> i don't think it's wise to cast a broad net of generalization over any group of human beings. so yes there are people that cross the boarder that are dangerous and criminals and the like. i would say through my experience the vast majority of people are coming over because they want a better life. and my sense of it is if you're
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a father, for example, my situation, my family is desperate. they're living in a dangerous situation, i'd do almost anything to protect my children and find a better life for them. so we have to understand that element of it. that doesn't mean we have to have laws on our end. >> don't miss more of the interview tomorrow night at 7:00 on "the axe files." they also discuss the republican party in the era of president trump, the mueller investigation and more again, 7:00 tomorrow night. on sunday, join me as well as david axelrod, karl rove, glenn close, robin william's son zack and many others for a really important town hall conversation. all of us have been touched by suicide. for it is on sunday night night at 7:00 p.m. we bring you the special report, finding hope, battling america's suicide crisis. you'll see how suicide impacts so many families. you can learn about warning signs and you'll hear inspirational stories of survival. there is hope and that's such an important message. again, that's sunday at 7:00 p.m. just before this seasonal's