tension center in texas. her 6 year-old daughter is at a facility in arizona. there's been no reunion yet and no indication of when it may happen. a second foep phone call between the two is scheduled for tuesday. time to hand it over to chris. cuomo "prime time" starts now. >> thank you. welcome to "prime time." a democratic congresswoman calls for a shame campaign. against trump administration officials. and we are seeing intense protests of the same even in private places. but the president seems to love this. why? we'll tell you. tonight we have a man who says he too has been blacklisted for his support of president trump. actor turned congressional candidate antonio sabato jr. joins us tonight. plus it's a new week. the crisis ongoing at the border has not changed. what is it like inside those housing facilities where they

won't let the media be eye ands ears. guess what, we have a lawmakers on the show who just got a look at what's happening in florida. and a world champion basketball star with a lot to say about the political climate in america. we have him here tond. golden state warrior day monday green. it's 9:00 p.m. in the east. the new happy hour. according to a fan. what do you say, let's get after it. administration officials being heckle. a democrat calling for more and lt president saying she better watch out. what is going on? let's ask one of the people who wants to step in the middle of this. one of president trump hollywood supporters running for congress in a heavily democratic district. in california. antonio sabato jr. very familiar face. let's get after it. it's good to have you here with

us, sir. >> thank you. >> what's your diagnosis of the situation? what we see with maxine waters. the people who are showing up going at trump officials and others in power. who are seen as trump friendly saying we're not going to take it anymore we're coming for you? >> yeah. maxine waters i call her the hustler of hate. promoting hate and division. and fwal attacking the administration or anybody involved with the administration. that's unheard of. she should be put behind bars and throw away the key. >> she should be arrested? >> for what. >> for all the crime. she makes millions of dollars. lives in beverly hills. her constituents are dying in the streets. go live in your neighborhood. go live in surround yourself with your community. and help them physically. be there. surround yourself like oim doing for 15 years. that's what people in congress

should be like. involve with the community 100%. she is not. how do you make millions of dollars by making 250 a year maybe? where's she taking the money? it's corruption to th max. >> i hear you about feeling that the people who represent a district should reflect the district. i get it. we're taking a look at this situation that we have here. so much anger on both sides. you say you want to get into the process, i assume your motivation is make it better. that kind of talk, she should be in jail. >> she should be. >> there's no crime. you understand what you're saying. >> you're asking me a question. i'll answer the best way i know how. i'm very much involved in my community in district 26. i'll win in november in. people in congress and the democratic party would actually put this country the american

flag first. not the president. but the americans first. this country would be perfect. americans dying on the street and homelessness in los angeles. we have to step up and do more. >> how do you get more done if you can't work with the other side? i'm talking about you. the ability to work with the other side is going to have to require a return to civility. what maxine waters is saying i get there's out rage from the people who like what she's saying and out rage from people who don't like it. there is a reason that she said what she said. the why matters here. because of what's being said on the other side. there's so much hostility. look what you said. she should be in jail. you have said obama and hillary clinton should be in jail. you have said a lot of provocative things that don't make anything better. how is that a good solution?

>> i didn't leave my people to die in libya. i support the military. >> what does that mean? >> i'm not going on a press conference and tell everyone to attack or do anything against people working for the administration. i'm attacking right now the socialist party in sacramento and washington d.c. i believe the american flag and our constitution should be first for people that go to washington. that's what i believe. >> how do you put the flag first or god first. god is truth. >> amen to that. >> let's play something you said not too long ago. >> i don't believe the guy is a christian. i don't believe he follows the god i love and the jesus i love. if you understand about obama. that's not a christian name? we had a muslim president.

>> look. you know it's not true. how is it helpful? >> hold on. first of all, what is wrong with calling anyone a muslim? >> it is when they're not. i'll call you a muslim. it's not accurate. >> it's fine. what i'm saying is you can call me a muslim. i'm not going to use it against you. or against me in the case. that's what i said. that was my opinion. let's talk about now. let's talk about today. what's going on right now. >> that was in 2016. during the convention. >> we have $26 billion in immigration. >> you want to represent a group of people. let alone a district that clinton won by 22 points. >> listen. >> who are you representing by calling obama a muslim? when you know it's not true. what does that do? that's positive. >> i'm not talking about that. you're bringing it up. >> it's too bad. you said it you have to own it now. >> nobody is perfect. i'm willing to express my

opinion and mistakes. >> will you apologize? >> i did. i did on the view if you remember. if you did your home work. you didn't. >> i remember you saying in the transcript he's probably not a muslim. i understand that. that's not an apology. you knew he wasn't when you said it. >> there's nothing wrong with calling him a muslim. i shouldn't apologize. >> it is when it's a false to disparage him and feed hate. >> journalism is dead. ask questions. in the middle. i'm a republican. but the way you attack. >> how is asking to account for what you said -- why did you say this. what did you mean. it's not true. >> the american people know what's going on. they know what's going on. this november they will know more. they will get people in congress who are there who love this country. there's one thing you can say whatever you want about me. i love this nation and i care. i care about my community.

i care about my people. i listen to what they want and i'll do what they want me to do. >> do you think they want you to divide people along christian and muslim lines? and people should be in jail if you don't -- >> don't change the narrative and make it work for you. that's what you do best. american people are smarter han that. they don't watch your net work. i'm here to promote. >> you came on a net work that nobody watches? why did you do that. you're a smart guy. >> i want to talk to you. i really did. >> i want to have this conversation. >> i'm not afraid of you guys whatsoever. >> you shouldn't be afraid of the truth. >> you attack people. the way you attack the administration and anybody involved is disgraceful. you should go to communion. and make peace with the man upstairs. >> you would go to -- are you a

catholic? know what you're talking about first. throw big bombs. make sure. >> that's right. that's something you should do. >> i'm helping you out. understand your own faith. >> i don't need your help. >> you need a little bit of help. >> not from you. >> i'm giving you an opportunity. you're from italy. born there. you came legally. the problem with the country immigration system is two field. you have a legal immigration issue and illegal. do you agree with the president trump about a zero tolerance approach to illegal immigration? >> when i came here in 1985 we waited in line for many yores. my parents ran out of the money. we came two years on a green card. we worked hard and when we came to the border we had to sign a paper that said don't take any welfare from the country. that was the good old days.

when you come here illegally you get free programs. the american people have to pay for. that's wrong. >> what if people need help?to >> what about the american people? do it legally. we have a door. they don't have to leave their country they can go to the embassy. and ask for asylum there. they're coming here illegally because there's human trafficking and bringing drugs and bringing. >> some. >> this has been going on way too long. >> some matters. the context matters. zero tolerance means nobody gets in. do you agree with the president that border agents should be able to turn everybody back without due process? >> listen, there's a will the of people this europe. millions are waiting to come here. all over the world. i get it. i did it right way. we have to follow the law. >> do you agree? >> zero tolerance?

if i came to your house and went through the window. with all my kids and everybody else and used your house and ate your dinner. would you call the police? window of my house because the somebody was chasing you with an ax. >> i would call the police. >> you don't have time to call the police. if my window is open would you jump in? >> i would take the guy out. >> what is everybody is not as tough as you. not every situation is equal. i want to get questions from you on the record. do you agree with not needing d people back? >> i think if you cross the border illegally, there's a price you have to pay. if you do it legally through the door, come in legally. we are allowing you to be an american citizen. do it legally. that's all i'm saying. >> legal immigration, coming

through what the numbers are that's one issue. illegal is another one. we had this flash point with the separation of kids from their parents. as they come across and the mess that is resulted that's going on now. do you agree with what the president did? >> actually, he over ridden that. he wants families to stay together with the kids. this was started by obama. >> it was not. >> kids were coming here. human trafficking and carrying drugs. we have a border. if we don't have a border woe don't have a country. >> do you separate them or keep them together? >> i would never separate -- i know you're trying to be a smart ass. i would never allow kids and parents to be separated. >> now you don't like the question. did he do the right thing or wrong? >> i don't think the president said that at all. >> the president said to separate kids from families? >> i don't think he wants to

separate anyone. >> he did that. with the zero tolerance policy. >> we follow the law. he didn't make the law, did he? >> right. you follow the law. >> did he write the law? he's following the law. if i break the law i have to pay consequences like you and i and everybody else in the country that is legally. >> how you enforce the law matters. not everybody who jaywalks gets prosecuted. >> the immigration situation we know it, it's been broken for a long time. we have to start fresh. and we have to start talking and making sure we get a good one in place coming up soon. hopefully after november. >> now, one of the reasons i want you to come on tonight and as your race goes on you're welcome to come back. i don't think it helps you in your race. it helps me with my reporting. if it's always about hostility. you wouldn't have been on the show.

i decide who comes on. i think that. >> it's about god and love. it's about taking care of people. and standing firm to the policies we have. >> that's fine. >> and the law and the constitution of the country. >> you can argue policy and faith. you don't have to attack people for asking the questions. you don't have to attack things that you don't like by insult. you can make arguments. >> are you talking to yourself? >> i'm talking to you. >> you do that very well. >> i would need medication. i'm trying to get a point to you. what i'm saying is we need to be able to have conversations where instead of attacking me for asking the question, answer them. i test them we go back and forth. people know your ideas. they can make an informed judgment. that's what i'm out for. you're always welcome back here. >> i'm always into that. absolutely. 100%. >> it's coming from a good place.

people need information and less hostility. >> of course i agree. you can take that to the bank yourself and keep it right here close to your heart. >> i try every damn night. i'll have you back soon. >> my pleasure. >> antonio sabato jr. running for congress in california. all right now, we have a different perspective. congresswoman of florida hours ago went to a facility where we can't get in. they don't want the media to be eyes and ears inside these facilities. lawmakers can find their own way in and look at the kids they have been separated from parents. congresswoman, thank you for being with us. we can get into that b.s. i was just dealing with. you have your own to take on. first the kids. what did you see on the inside? >> a week ago senator nelson and i were denied access to the homestead facility which has 1,300 kids.

it took me a week to be able to get into the facility with the younger children. which i was able to get access to today. what i was struck by the most, there are 22 kids there who were separated from families. i'm talking about four or five, six year-olds. preschool age kids. it looks like a day care center. it's a permanent facility. not a temporary shelter. and it looks like a day care center but what i was struck by is that unlike when i dropped my kids off at day care and picked them up and had them run into my arms, they don't see their parents. they aren't picked up. they fwo of them haven't even been able to locate parents. children are being cared for by strangers. teen moms in the facility. i met one of them who just came in last night and looked scared and alone. this is all the result of the president really having an

abhorrent policy. which is unnecessary and unacceptable. >> one practicality. the staff, do they feel they can handle the extra capacity and what is their understanding about the time line of when the kids in their custody will be reunited? >> they don't have any idea when they can get the kids reunited. they are working to reunite, but the problem that we discovered at homestead and here is hhs the health and human services only they can only really work to reunite children and look for parents and go through process monday through friday. because dhs homeland security doesn't have staff working on the weekends to make sure the process can be completed. they have reyiunited some

children. they have 22 there now. the facility in homestead has 70 children and they weren't able to really tell me any of them have been reunited. that's just unacceptable. this is a creation of president trump and completely abhorrent and unnecessary. >> we know how we got here. how do we get out of it. the lawmakers like yourself we have to hold accountable. you have to help put out the fire. and we have to see how the system works over time. every day for a kid at that tender age is one day too many. the politics of this. where it's leading us. you saw the interview with antonio sabato jr. talking out after play book that works well for the side. anything i ask makes me an enemy to the cause and my country. maybe offensive to god as well. and it's now being echoed on the left. i'm not doing a blame game. i'm seeing what's in frnt of us. what maxine waters said, do you

believe that that kind of rhetoric and calls for shame came pains are the answer for your party? >> we can have civil discourse and civil disobedience. what i know is that you have sarah huckabee sanders who was asked to leave a restaurant. and children torn from their parents. and are being cared for by strangers. some are in detention facilities and can't be cared for or picked up by the people who are working at the facility. those are quite different situations. >> by orders of magnitude. they fall in categories. it is in the two wrongs make a right category. >> no, they aren't remotely comparable wrongs. you have a situation. >> orders of magnitude different. but the tactic is the same. we don't like what you're doing. we'll do something bad to you. that's what trump did with the kids. and waters is calling for with people she doesn't like from the

administration. go shame them. >> you can't compare someone calling for civil disobedience. >> of course not. >> with a policy that has torn children from their families. >> of course not. as a tactic how does it help? >> i'll tell you. spare me i won't be lectured by president trump. or any of his allies over civil discourse and what the definition of civility is. these are people that have courseened our discourse beyond almost repair. and the first thing out of the gate that antonio sabato jr. said to you was that maxine waters should be arrested. at the same time saying that we have to put the flag and the constitution first. last time i checked there's a first amendment in the constitution. yet he wants to put it first. but put her in prison for exercising it. >> what's theolution for flame throwing? stay way from gasoline.

trying to put out a fire. >> we need to sit down together in a bipartisan way. which we have been unable to do it. they're doing a republican only process in congress. and work through the issues and pass immigration reform. this is a crisis that president trump has created himself. we have the lowest rates of undocumented immigration in modern times right now. we have ramped up border security funding on the appropriation committee. we have ramped up significantly border security funding. we have the safest border we have had in decades. if not longer. and what the president is doing is terminating programs like the community care program which would have gotten up the rate of people who show up for hearings. and cost $36 a day. >> you get 51% of the people in favor of a wall. that's politics of perception. my concern is this, it's frightening to me that you guys men and women of goodwill.

of left and right persuasion. couldn't come together to find an immediate fix. >> the republicans refused to do that. >> they're in control. >> we can put a bill on the floor tomorrow. >> you should to it. so the nepeople in the country know that's where your head is. >> there's legislation filed. it would end the ability for the president to separate children and parents. and prevent these children that i saw today who were really alone and weren't able to be comforted by their mom or dad. and many whom have no idea who they are. can talk twice a week for ten minutes at a time. i can talk to my kids any time i want to. these kids have been ripped from their parents. we can end the practice tomorrow and it's within republican

control to do it. they won't. >> is that the hill to die on. >> protecting children and keeping themg with parents is a hill to die on. >> thank you for coming on the show to make the case. appreciate it. keep us in the loop of what's happening. >> thank you so much. >> all right so, president trump loves what maxine waters said about him. he's lecturing her on civility. whent to a reallily in south carolina where he was saying i'm the victim. attacking maxine waters for being low iq and rallying up his crowd. the question is, where does this start to get better? that is a great topic for the great debate. ahead.

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all right. where does it get us? what happens next? a great debate indeed. jennifer gran hom and rick santorum. i want to start with what maxine waters said. can we play it? >> if you see anybody from the cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you -- you push back on them. and you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere. >> jennifer, fighting fire with fire. you with that? >> you know, i totally get the frustration that you can hear in her voice. she by the way did a follow up segment to that today. that was yesterday's rally.

>> we asked her on today. >> she's not calling for violence. i completely understand the frustration that many feel at what is going on at the border and feeling like we don't have the control in any place shape or form. put me in camp civility. i think that we can do this in a way that gets the message across that doesn't help donald trump. right now he is loving this. because he ends up trolling her. he is insulting her personally. and hoping just hoping that more democrats follow his cabinet around with iphones and chase them out of restaurants so he can be the victim. he loves being the victim. he only wants to be the victim and i don't want to give him that gift. >> so rick santorum, do you agree in as much as jennifer is saying the president loves this. he exaggerated it. he said maxine waters wants them

to hurt you. she better watch out. that's his playing field. anger. at the rally in south carolina. he wants people to be angry about what he believes they should reject. and this helps him, does it not? >> maxine waters comments helps him. it doesn't help the public discourse. and the idea that the maxine waters is a alone in her feeling this way. you're seeing evidence that there are a will the of folks on the left who for a lot of reasons not just because of immigration. sarah sanders was not asked to leave the restaurant because of immigration. she was asked to leave because of policies with guys and lesbians. let's get this right. there's a lot of reasons people on the left are acting frankly bablzly as the president acts sometimes and worse i would

argue. >> nope. you cannot say, with respect you can't say that people who are not in positions of huge power the most powerful person on the earth is equal to every day people frustrated but that persons power and the policies they are imnating from him. he caused america to be in the cellar of international esteem. it's an embarrassment and we are exhausted by the daily out rage. every day there's another thing that is happening where we feel like he has taben the country from us. you better believe people are frustrated. no one sets the tone more than the guy at the top. >> i would say in response to the no, i would say yes. i'm not going to tell my children they have a lower standard because they're not the president of the united states. i'll tell my children and everyone i interact with they have a standard because they are whether they are christian or muslim or just a an american.

you have a standard of behavior. because someone else. >> not someone else. >> even the president. it doesn't allow you the excuse to use -- >> here's the problem with the argument. give me a second. this is important. we get stuck here a lot. you don't do what having a standard requires. which is to call out when it is not adhered to. you'll say you do. you say you have. and then cause someone like me to do home work. i have had a lot of full throated conversations with you. i cannot find a transcript when you have said president trump, stop it. stop making people angry for no reason. stop abusing the truth like you did in south carolina to be the tonight just to get people angry. i don't want my kids to hear that. you have to be better. you're the leader of the country. >> look at your transcripts. i criticize the president. i just criticized him tonight.

>> that encourages him. it does. i don't understand why if it matters so much to you. call it out. >> i don't think i qualified at all. i have said the president has used a lot of terms that are bullying and unfair. that are not necessarily true. i have been very tough on this president. when he speaks in way that is out of line with what the president is supposed to act. i don't say that's going an excuse for other people to act that way. the reality is that what maxine waters and donald trump are doing is reflection of a broader culture. becoming courser and less civil. >> does the president have a responsibility in that dynamic? >> yes. >> everybody does. >> a larger responsibility. the most powerful man in the world. >> he is using it to play so advantage. you're making him a symptom of this situation. he shares more responsibility than the person who owns the red

hen restaurant. >> i think they both have responsibility. >> equal speedometresponsibilit >> come on, rick. >> she has an obligation to treat customers.if that was aco throwing a liberal out. >> like the baker you got up and celebrated and said that's religion at its best. >> that's a difference. i said maybe op your show, a baker when someone walk ins and wants to buy a donut they can't throw them out. it's different than prepare something to sport something that is against your conscience. >> it's the same thing. >> it's not the same thing. you are being dishonest if dwro you're saying that. that is dishonest. >> when someone bakes a cake

it's an artistic expression. and forcing a painting that he disagrees with. but if they say give me a donut. but i don't want to sell you a donut because i'm afraid of you. it's not okay. >> if you're saying to someone you have to use your talent to make a cake specifically for this occasion which you disagree with. you are cooperating in that event. >> it's an argument that worked with the supreme court. i'll give you that. >> it's true. >> it worked. i wish you felt every supreme court decision was true. we know that's not true. i'll remind you of what president trump said. >> get him out. try not to hurt him. if you do i'll defend you in court. if you see somebody getting

ready to throw a tomato. knock the crap out of him. i'd like to punch him in the face. i don't know if i would have done well. i would have been out there fighting. >> yeah. what would you do if your son said that? >> i don't like any of that. i have said i don't like the way the president. >> you're not as hot as you were about the baker. you're not as hot. >> all of it is wrong. the reality is that donald trump is crude and he can be a bully. i don't like any of that. i wish he didn't do it. i have said it one hundred times. that he would be an effective president if he would tone down that rhetoric and accomplish on the wonderful focus on the

wonder much accomplishments. >> i don't know how matching tactics for somebody who has had enough of trump. we have had enough. if you have had enough of trump, don't you have to be careful art not giving another dose of trump like tactics? >> absolutely. especially if it's the gift of making trump or s huckabee sanders or anybody else look sympathetic. that's a gift. here is what the strategy should be. the strategy should be people there is a primary tomorrow. people should be getting people to the polls. if you want to really oppose donald trump, if you feel super-passionate. and register people to vote. support organizations that are registering people to vote. protest in the street. that's totally great. peacefully. but individually attacking people gives him the what

exactly he craves. get people elected. that's the message that he needs to hear. >> how about saying it's wrong? how about instead of saying it's a political winner. say it's wrong. and we shouldn't be doing in. >> rick, did you not hear me say i'm in camp civility. don't give him what he wants. we should have civil discourse. it should start at the top. but everybody else should do that as well. i don't want this strategy or tactic to end up backfiring. i don't want it to send a message to any of the children that that's how we should be behaving. that's not how we behave and unfortunately the president has courseened the discourse so much that it has become daily foter that people are insulting one another. >> anger is exhausting. and there is a space here. >> it is.

i'm tired. >> that's right. on the right and the left there is a space. for a different message. america has always been motivated at her best by sweet strength. not harshness. it's worked for the left and the right. we may arguably have never had a better por vaer of this than reagan. he came at america with optimism. and we're good people. we do good things. that's very missing in politics. that is not what donald trump says. except about himself. >> go to the reagan library. there's a some sort of presentation. about the media and ronald reagan. the media loves reagan now. they vilified him and called him every name in the book. to his credit he never let him get to him and remained

optimistic and the leader that saw through it. what donald trump is doing is reacting to what happens to every conservative into office. >> you're calling donald trump a conservative? do you really? >> if you can let me finish. >> you better. add onto that. >> donald trump administration has on the vast majority of issues followed through with the conservative play book. there are a couple of exceptions. obviously being tariffs. everything else the administration has done on the economy and national security. on even to some degree. >> not immigration. >> reagan was like gandi. >> i disagree. >> that's fine. you can think that now. if we look back and forth. back then he was loving it and so was your party.

you can respect somebody's approach and their tone. and their tactics. but not their policy and their fact situation. the journy for the journalist is two paths there. you can respect how somebody is but you can also test on the out come of the persuasion. that's what happened then and certainly going to happen now. rick santorum, thank you very much. i appreciate you muscling through. thank you very much. take a look at this guy we have. a special treat for you on a monday. draymond green. one of the world champion golden state warriors. nobody's afraid or unafraid the way this man is on the court or off. we'll talk about the championship, going to the white house. not going to the white house and the state of affairs in the country. with the champ here next. good to see you, sir. what about him?

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helping his team win three nba championships in four years. golden state warrior, draymond green is a tough guy on the court. and tough off the court as well. good to have you, sir. champ. three for you. good nor you. we were talking about before we started. you win the first one you're a super-star. the next one you better win it or you're a chump. different pressure. how has that changed your mind set about what you bring to your craft? >> it changed the way you prepare. the first one you're preparing to attack everyone. you're in attack mode. there's always something driving you and pushing you. the second one you are preparing to defend yourself. and trying to keep that mentality of attacking is the challenge. that's how you testified defend it and stay on time. that's the toughest part. >> it sound like our political culture. it's a direct parallel.

look at what's happening now. the latest round is maxine waters, congresswoman from california. i have had enough. and i want you guys to go after, we have been playing this sound. this is what she said that is really defining the state of play. >> if you see anybody from the cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you -- you push back on them. you tell them they're not welcome anymore anywhere. >> right message? >> well, what i would say is, especially as an african american you understand. now as an american you understand the frustration. but i just want to be make sure that we're all careful of doing things the right way. continuing to go where our

country was headed and where it's been headed over the last year, year and a half. we have to stay mindful if we want things to change, make sure we're going about it the right way to effect the change. not what our mind may tell us initially. >> that is unsatisfying. if someone is angry. i don't like what they're saying i have had it. it's time to fight back. you're telling me to take it. the resistance movement now which i think includes your coach. that they don't want to take it anymore. they want to fight back. how do you sell that as not being soft? >> i think you fight back strategically. you meet force with force which you have to. >> by the way what you're known for. on the court. >> it can go either way. >> you're not negotiator on the court. >> you have to be stra teet jij. if you meet someone with force

and strategy. you'll beat them every time. opposed to meeting them with force. their force may have no strategy. it's important that we stay strategic. stand up for what you believe in. as we have done. at the same time make sure you're coming with the right strategy. and use that force and it will work. >> if you win again, you said something interesting. that we shouldn't ignore. being african american matters. gives you a specific set of sensitivity that not every american shares. and yes, maybe we are starting to see there's common themes. there's unique ones. that loomed large for your team. in terms of going fot white house. if you had to do that again, would you do that again and not go? >> i know we'll make the same decision and not go. it's not about not seeing donald trump. or anything else that goes with

it. more so about what we stand for. and in order to affect change, you have to stand for something. and if yo go about it the same way, you do the same thing you'd do if everything was normal you won't effect change. we use or platform to do that. and we opted not to go to the white house. it would be status quo and how does your voice matter? >> he says to deal with the nfl. he and then he says hey, look, two guys are so upset. give me some people and i'll pardon them. is that a good suggestion? >> it could have possibly have been one of those things to make someone be quiet. when i look at that i mean maybe it helps a certain individual or

certain few individuals but doesn't help the overall problem. i'm not sure if it doesfect the overall problem. you know, the nfl is kind of, you know, with donald trump is going a different way. we stand for what we believe in. when there's a problem he acknowledges it right away. they want us to have a voice. i think it's going really well. you know, i'm pleased with where we are for sure. >> there is really no accommodation. it's about being upset, right, wrong, whatever. i have heard from numerous guys

say you to understand, as a black guy trump doesn't look at me the way he looks at you. you believe that? yes. i believe that. you don't think it's politics? you think it means black and they said yes. do you agree with that? >> i mean you never know someone's true motive. i can make my mouth say whatever i want it to say. at the end of the day it doesn't matter. >> what is your big move right now that you believe shows draymond green, yeah, she a star athlete. he is using it to make a positive difference. that's why i'm doing x. >> for me i am on the board. you know, with commissioner and

all of the others, you know, tv stations and just trying to effect change through that. he does such great job. quite frankly all over the country. you know, i think steve ross's first thought was i remember talking to him. are you born racism or taught racism? taking the steps we need to make to make our country as good as we can possibly make it. i spent a lot of my time doing different things and trying to effect change that way. >> congratulations. thank you for being part of the dialogue. we want you as part of the conversation on this show. >> thanks for having me. >> thank you. >> don standing by with a preview of cnn tonight just minutes away. what do you think about me? >> he is impressive.

>> he is an impressive man doing great things. the question he asked about, are you taught that or born with it? i thought it was a very good question. we'll talk about that considering all of this that's going on. the guy being yelled at, being call add rapist. where are we going with civility? also that gentleman will be here as well. he will explain his side of the story. we'll talk about that in a few minutes. let's see you then. >> strong show. >> all right. we have a few thoughts on what's going on, what it means and whether there really a cure next. when we were dating, we used to get excited about things

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that is your goal. remember what america is. at our most vital she has nourished diversity and empowerment for all. you need it to promote the exercise of civil discourse be it sweaty or endurance training of compromise. i get there can be something like a sugar high from bingeing on anger. those are the emptiest of calories. i don't see how any of that will be a cure to a fooef their is getting hotter by the day. that is all for us tonight. thank you for watching cnn tonight. i'm playing with a metaphor here but i think the message is pretty obvious. >> i get what you're saying. what happens if the president is the sugar rush, if he is the