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and they feel as though the momentum is behind them, trump's sm is behind them. they feel like the comeback is coming. he says when the pls close, we are going to see proof of that. >> a big and important night across the country. stay with cnn as the results come in. anderson is next. thanks for joining us, breaking news, white house press secretary sarah sanders is expected to get secret service starting tomorrow. keeping them honest, president trump is now trying to leverage political advantage over the political discourse that has been boiling over. his campaign sent out this fund-raising. it mentions the moment caught on
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tape when kirstjen nielsen was heckled last week. >> shame! shame! >> end family separation. >> the fund-raising e-mail mentioned maxine waters. here is what she said at a rally on saturday. >> if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. and you push back on them. and you tell them they are not welcome anymore, anywhere. >> in the fund raising e-mail,
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the letter says we will not be intimidated. secretary sanders began her briefing discussing her experience in the restaurant. she also made a call for civility. >> healthy debate on ideas and civil philosophy is important. america is a great country, and our ability to find solutions despite those disagreements is what makes us unique. >> now, sarah sanders' point is well taken. we should be able to have disagreements. the president has taken uncivil discourse to a whole new level and saranders has never distanced herself. >> lyin' ted cruz. oh, i don't know what i said.
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i don't remember. rosie o'donnell is disgusting, she she's a slob. jeb bush is a low energy person. for him, to get things done is hard. >> maxine waters, a very low iq individual. >> we have a representative in congress who they say was here a long time ago, they call her pocahontas. >> just yesterday, after sarah sanders spoke about the need for civility, the president was back to lobbying insults asking quote, why is senator mark warner perhaps in a near drunken state claiming has information that only he and bob mueller
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knows. told politico he had made a bad joke. the presidential insults didn't stop there. president trump took aim from anyone from reporters to late night talk show hosts at a rally. >> we have a lot of fake news back there. i said, i don't care. i can't stand that guy. she blamed everybody for losing the election except for one person, herself. does david lynch enjoy it, because his career in hollywood is officially over. the guy on cbs, what a low life. this guy on cbs has no talent. jimmy kimmel would meet me beforehe election. no talent. now i wouldn't do his show, the guy is terrible.
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jimmy fallon,jimmy, be a man. >> let's get the latest from jim acosta who joins us at the white house. this fund raising effort is playing in the president's hand. >> reporter: it certainly is. the white house over here they want to put out this message that there is intolerance on the left. never mind the fact that the president including members of his administration have been pretty intolerant of other people's views. just to give you a sense of what is in this fund raising e-mail, it talks about how sarah sanders was kicked out of a restaurant. this is in a campaign trying to raise money for the president's
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2020 election. heading into the fall midterms and beyond. >> it is interesting, you were at the president's rally last night where he lobs insults from jimmy fallo to the prime minister of canada. >> reporter: that's right, and there were glaring headlines from the president's remarks going after jimmy fallon, and talking about a host of different topics. he once again referred to us as fake news and the enemy of the people. i have seen this at countless trump rallies where he whips people up into a frenzy, so no surprise to me when i walked into that rally yesterday evening hours before the president took the stage that there were people coming up to me, elderly swimmiwomen coming
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taunting us. there were people who would come up to us and say i'm sorry about what is happening. i gave this man a chair and he came back with his mother and said thank you for helping us out, my mother appreciates it. when people see us as who we are, human beings, they lower the hostilities level. when it comes to civility, it starts at the top. the president has to set the example. >> a lot to discuss with dan rather. and legendary political consultant stewart stevens. you wrote, spurs forehead slap anything disbelief. can you smexplain what you mean?
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>> here is a president who is specialized part of his success. bullying, look, incivility takes many forms and to make any comparison between what is happening say in an obscure restaurant somewhere with the kind of, i hate to say it, lies, corruption, and immoral acts and ripping children from their mothers and equate that with something that happened at a restaurant is a hypocritical farce. look, let's stop and put this in perspective. who lit the fires of hate and incivility that we are now seeing. it began with the donald trump campaign and presidency. i know people say, well, it is bias to say, but the facts support that. in word and deed, he has not put
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a tone of civility on the presidency. those in power, those are the power of the state, those are the power of the presidency, should be held to a higher, much higher standard than everybody else to set a standard. >> the problem with civility and incivility is that it starts hard it stop. bad gets worse quickly. if you think of a sports team, if you go to a game, hockey game, everybody is fighting, the crowd gets more into it. civility starts with those on the field. and in politics, it is those in office. when the president ran for office, he sets a new low. accusing ted cruz's father.
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where does it go? there has to be a stoplight. if people started ignoring stoplights, you end up like rio, traffic goes everywhere. and it has to be self-imposing. you just have to feel it and know it and there is a lot of people involved in politics that don't like what is happening now. >> but they are not speaking up, really. the ones that are leaving office on the republican speak up, but you don't hear a lot of other voices. >> it is worth remarking, it is an ancient playbook of autocrats and authoritarian leaders to deliberately try to provoke a response from people. the maxine water's thing in my personal opinion was a tactical and not a strategic mistake on
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her part. it was a reaction that trump wanted. >> clearly it is an issue that the president feels, he encouraged sarah sanders to start off the briefing with her talking about her personal experience with the restaurant which is an extraordinary thing when you think about, that is what is being discued at a white house briefing. >> it is diminishing of the office. i think what happened to sarah sanders is unfortunate. if you are press secretary of the united states, you can talk about anything, you can talk about hunger, iraq war, threat of nuclear iran. and to talk about what happened to you at a restaurant, diminishes it. it is this victim shopping. republicans used to be against this, used to be a party of personal responsibility. to look out for trivial things,
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makes it diminish those who were truly victims. i think we are wrong now to get out and say who can defend me the most. >> i'm sorry, but you know, it is always important to see things from 30,000 feet to use the cliche, or to say in television, take the wide shot. this is not about president trump's policy, it is about the heart and soul and character of the country. who are we now? what have we becoming with these outburst of incivility, led, the tone set by the president of the united states himself. >> in terms of other administrations you have covered, obviously famously covered the nixon administration, where are we on the scale of incivility? >> well, we are off the charts.
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i don't think there is any precedent for this, an american president setting this kind of tone of incivility. perhaps back in the 1880s, during that period. >> even in the '70s, you had radical groups planting bombs and buildings. >> that is outright violence. in terms of the presidency, this is unprecedented of what is going on. >> much more than nixon? >> much more. for example, for all of the illegal, unconstitutional things he did, president nixon did have a belief in the constitution, in the systems of checks and balances. he regularly tried to in secret undercut those. but publicly, he supported them. that is not the case with president trump. and that is a very, very big
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difference. but come back to, we have to see ourselves what we are becoming. where does this go now? is it worse or not? and that depends less on the president, because he is not going to change. he is going to continue doing this. he thinks his playbook is succeeding. it depends on each individual to do the right thing. >> michael hayden has been on the show, and he uses the example of sarajevo that fell apart. do you worry about where this is heading for us? >> sure, i think you see it in schools where you have kids that are getting bullied more. you have it in public dialogue. you have this sense with donald trump that you are listening to the nixon tapes. public, there is not a filter there. what is he going to say next.
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what is hoing to do. the role of the president has to be to set a higher standard.has aspire to. historically, it has always been. now a lot of times in the pub c private life they didn't hold up to that. the presidency stands for aspirationally what is the best of us. and it's really unrtunate. >> there is something about the repetition that the president does effectively, after a time, it normalizes everything. witch hunt, yeah, lyin' ted, or crooked hillary, whatever it is. >> that is an important point. because you should be careful to what you get used to. and if we get accustomed to this and shrug our shoulders and say, well, this is trump. we have to be careful of what we get used to. and my fear of this going ons
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long as it has, and descending deeper and deeper in incivility, as a country, people, and society, we get used to and accept it. >> good to talk you to. appreciate it. up next, the supreme court upholds the travel ban. and later, today we learned only six children have been reunited with their family since last wednesday. details on that ahead. this is a tomato you can track from farm, to pot, to jar, to table.
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keeping them honest with a cour victory. today the supreme court ruled 5-4 to uphold the travel ban, at least the third version. waterered down, that is from the initial goal, goal he made crystal clear before he was elected when he said that quote that i just referenced. >> donald j. trump is calling for a total complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states until our representatives
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can figure out what the hell is going on. we have no choice. we have no choice. >> well confusion was a hallmark of the travel ban from that point forward with later saying it was just a suggestion. and later he signed an executive order banning entrance. and stopping refugees from syria. that was met with protests at airports in the united states. and the court battle temporarily blocking parts of the order. when sally yates didn't defend the travel ban, the president fired her. references to statements that the president and advisors made. and something else he said in this program back in march of 2016. >> i think islam hates us.
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there is something, there's something there, there is a tremendous hatred. we have to get to the bottom of it. >> in islam itself? >> you will have to figure that out. you will get another pulitzer. a tremendous hatred. we have to be vigilant, and careful and we can't have people coming into this country who hates the united states and people who are not muslim. >> is there war between the west and radical islam. >> it is very hard to define, hard to separate because you don't know who is who. >> and candidate donald trump saying islam hates us.
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restricts to varying degrees of five muslim countries. as well as two non-muslim majority countries. its point and efficacy is not -- vetting and cleaning up what you just heard the president say, he hoped to do from the start to ban muslims. joining me is senator richard blumenthal. senator, i know you oppose the supreme court ruling. this was a legal and political victory for the president. >> it was a victor for the president and not for america. i say this with sadness, who argued cases before the supreme court, i have great reverence and respect. but today it is abandoned its
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constitutional responsibility to look at that animus, that improper motivation that was so obvious in those statements that you just very dramatically played. and the abandonment of that responsibility may seem like a victory for donald trump but is really a grave injustice and defeat for america. >> the policy itself is different from what the president initially intended and those supreme court justices who supported it, believe it is correct, the wide power of the presidency to keep this country safe. those who oppose it, seem to focus on the president's prior remarks as a civilian, as a candidate. >> and very important, he has never disavowed those past statements. never said that they were wrong or that he wanted to abandon them.
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and number two, it took him three tries to get it right, three iterations of this so-called ban. and the supreme court chose to look only at the last one. a lot of hand ringing, disapproving, head shaking. if an employer said women are bad workers, and i'm going to fire bad workers who are women, and then he fired five women, not all the women who worked for them. and maybe he fired a man too, it would not be okay. the president here has not included all muslims in the ban and he included north korea which is not a muslim nation, but the animus and motivation is there and that is what the supreme court should have paid attention. >> how would that work exactly,
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considering this was a supreme court ruling and obviously distracts are not in the majority. >> great question, and unfortunately, we are not in the majority, the chances of legislation are slim. we have introduced legislation that would cut funding in fact eliminate funding for this muslim ban, but the chances of it passing are very remote. so the answer, very simply is we need to change the composition of the congress and legislate in a way that prevents this kind of discriminatory ban, and reduces the discretion that the supreme court emphasize. basically said, we don't like his statements they contradict the meaning and value of the constitution. >> stay with us. i want to bring in jeffrey toobin who is here with me as well. what do you, how do you see this
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ruling of the supreme court today? >> the majority looked at this as a case about the presidency, about the power of all presidents. and treated this executive order as if it was something as an i am m-- immaculate conception. it doesn't say anything about muslims, it refers to these seven countries. and the supreme court said in light of that, it's perfectly permissible. the decenters, said who are you kidding? this is the muslim ban in a tutu. basically prohibiting muslims to come into the united states. and drew on the comments that you said earlier. this is why it matters who is on the supreme court and who
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appoints people on the supreme court. the four democrats in the minority saw it one way and the five republicans in the majority saw it one way. >> i mean, there are many muslim majority countries that are not part of this travel ban, pakistan, indonesia, there are a lot of muslims in india, two non-muslim countries in this ruling, north korea and venezuela. but do you, to you, is the inclusion of north korea and venezuela, is that a fig leaf? >> a disguise, a masquerade done for the purpose of making it seem religiously neutral. when in fact it is clearlily
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muslim. someone firing people from his company because they are women or jews or christians. and the irony here is that this decision comes down on a day when the court overruled -- >> a supreme court ruling permitting the internment of japanese of american citizens during world war ii. >> exactly right and it was dressed up whether you call it a tutu or a masquerade. a decision confirming koremstsu. in one of the quotes that you
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didn't cite here, compares the ban. and says it make it is okay. if we can put it in political perspective, the reason why this was a victory for donald trump, barack obama said there will be no vote on the nominee. and he kept that promise. and garland sat there. and that seat went to neal gore such. that is why donald trump won this lawsuit and he won another suit about abortion rights today and that is ultimately the
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a new nominee. neal go-- neil gorsuch. joining me now, mike shields and bakari sellers. complaints that democrats in congress are nothing but obstructionist. >> well, president obama was fond of saying elections have consequences when he would do things that republicans didn't like. what is interesting about that is he ignored that elections had consequences if the midterm. because the 2014 midterm elected
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majority to the senate and they blocked him. put on the ballot for the 2016 election. and the democrats lost. it was on the ballot. and the american people support what the supreme court did today by about 60%. a muslim ban is not what this is, and they wouldn't support that. polling shows we have a tradition of religious liberty. they do support not allowing people come into the country when we can't verify country of origin. know whether or not they are good or bad actors. and the american people support that. it is a popular position. and the supreme court is made up
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because donald trump was elected. >> to mike's point, this was front and center in the campaign. maybe didn't really, you know, had qualms with donald trump as a candidate were voting for him because of the supreme court. >> first of all, let's be clear. what mitch mcconnell and the senate republicans did to barack obama had not been done in over 100 years to any sitting president. that is a smithsonian fact. also, i want to point out that democrats, we did not do a good job two fold. the first was in 2014 and of course 2010, getting our voters to the polls. and i blame that on us, on messaging, and democrats not showing up toe. the second thing is in 2016, we didn't make this issue of the
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courts sexy enough. democrats have to do a better job of explaining what it means. not only has this court led by a stolen seat from merrick garland, not only has this court reinforced the muslim ban, supported the bakery case. we go down the list of what this court has done. democrats have to do a better job of coming up and showing up at the voting booth. >> mike, you heard senator blumenthal before saying north korea and venezuela was a fig leaf. to that do you say what? >> i want to set an example of civility and politely disagree with bakari on this. muslims travel in and out of the united states every single day from countries all over the
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world freely and openly. there is no ban on religiou what amuses me from the left, is open it up for california and we will let everyone from these countries that we can't verify and move them to beverly hills. even though we have no idea whether those people are safe or not. unfortunately the way the world is made up is there are islamic terrorist in countries that want to do the united states harm. that is not something we created. that is a fact. we blocked those every day. well, we haven't been attacked by anybody in a foreign country, right, because we are arming to stop attacks. i am not for a muslim ban. i don't think there should be a
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religion test on anybody coming into the country. but there is a ban on countries where we can't verify their citizen. >> pakistan is not on this, indonesia is not on this. what about that? >> mike is not making a point here. it is very clear, when you look at the countries listed there are few things that have in common. they don't do business -- >> he is saying what the commonality is they don't do a good job, it is not easy to figure out a background of people to vet people. >> why isn't saudi arabia on the list? the majority of attackers were from saudi arabia, you can go down the list. the reason we know this is a muslim ban and the reason people are disappointed with the court's decision, is because we use the president's own words,
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his religious animus. and that should be the center point of striking this down. that no law should favor or disfavor a religion. >> bakari sellers, mike shields i appreciate it. the administration says they will reunite the children with their parents. and tonight there was a conference call held and didn't go so well. details ahead. surfs up. earn a $50 gift card when you stay just twice this summer. or, badda book. badda boom. book now at choicehotels.com it's these new fresh-fx car air fresheners from armor all. each scent can create a different mood in my car. like tranquil skies. armor all, it's easy to smell good.
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since president trump last wednesday signed the executive order ending zero tolerance policy, administration said they would immediately be reuniting. in fact this program, and the teams on the ground hearing little if any reunification at all. here is what texas congressman hurd said this morning. >> we were supposed to have a conference call yesterday with members of congress and their staff to talk about this process. and the phone number didn't work. so if they can't do that with us, i am concerned with the ability of connecting kids. >> the phone number didn't work. we continue to ask for updates so today health and human services had a conference call and did not go well. >> are you first receiving
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children coming into your care because of apparently detention? we know there is an implementation phase. >> as mentioned earlier, we won't be -- we can get you that information as soon as possible, and we appreciate your patience. >> excuse me, are you still receiving children because of the separation policy? >> i believe we have answered -- you gave us three questions and we responded to your question and i ask that you send that to media at hhs -- >> i'm sorry i didn't hear an answer. >> so joining me now is sunday lan s-- >> we did get one bit of new
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information. they did reveal there are currently 2,047 children separated from their families who are still? hhs custody. the last time the administration gave us a number was on saturday night saying there was 2,053 children in custody. this suggests that only six children have been reunified with their garden since the executive order was signed. you heard in the audio they would not answer most importantly if they are receiving children as a result of the zero-tolerance policy. >> if they are still receiving children, for some reason they are not able to answer. it is possible they reunited more than six children but got more children coming in. >> that's right, and this nonanswer is so important here, they are saying currently there are 2,004 sear47 children.
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it throws off the numbers. there were promises that they could potentially get back to some of our questions, there were many times push by reporters. saying this thing is fluid, and this is a dynamic situation. that is why they said they could not give many more data points. like including the ages being held currently. what led to this rather contentious call at times. pushing for days for a full accounting of what is going on with these children. the attempt to mitigate these questions, clearly highlighted there are many more questions left to answer. >> the u.s. government will not even say what the ages of the children, the more than 2,000 children are being held are.
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that's, i mean that's incredible. >> that's right. they were asked that question and they did not answer that question. they said they would not reveal the ages or talk about policy on the call. beyond that one data point, they said they would not give any more data point. beyond saying e-mail in your questions which of course cnn and many other outlets have been doing on a daily basis. >> next we will check in with president trump supporters. the reaction from some of them ahead. sarah always chooses to take the stairs. but climbing 58,070 steps a year can be hard on her feet, . . . 's orthotics. they're clinically proven to relieve pain and give you the comfort to move more. dr. scholl's, born to move.
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president trump's stance on immigration is mostly getting a warm reception. cnn reports. >> reporter: welcome to the wall. with that kind of introduction, it's no surprise immigration is the hot topic for this radio show in the south texas area. >> north of the river and that's -- >> reporter: he's a staunch trump republican and credits the president with taking a tough approach to border security. >> with president trump we have someone making a serious attempt to enforce rule of law, and enforce border law and enforce our sovereign border with mexico, and get ahold of the situation. >> kristina garfield has lived along the border all her life. she comes from a family of democrats, but she like trump sees a threat in the flow of illegal immigration. >> my biggest concern with the people that are coming over our borders is safety. safety is a huge deal down here.
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>> reporter: trump is far from popular here in texas where most of the zero tolerance policy attention has been focussed. he only won 28 % of the vote. but there is an undercurrent of conservative latino voters who kind of defy conventional political wisdom. they're unfazed by the rhetoric that undocumented immigrants are using trump's words, invading the country. >> he doesn't sugar coat anything. i think the people of the united states appreciate that also. i don't think it's a bad thing. >> reporter: when you hear people talk about the way he talks about this issue, that it comes off as racist, what do you say? >> that's their problem. they hear what they want to hear and say what they want to say. it's a free country. >> reporter: the president of the young republican's chapter walks us through a warehouse where he works as a human resources director. he says the president needs to
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compromise on immigration. >> when you hear about zero tolerance and families being separated, we're the party of the family, faith and freedom. and you think about families being separated, and it doesn't look very civil. >> but hernandez is also exhausted by trump's divisiveness. >> there are some things he says that sometimes you have to cringe and be like oh, how am i going to defend that? >> reporter: you're tired of sticking up for him? >> i don't get anything for having to stick up for him. >> or mr. donald j. trump -- >> reporter: there are plenty of trump supporters willing to fight the fight, even in south texas where there aren't many around. >> reporter: anderson, it was the trump administration p that led to this issue, even though we documented it, many of the trump supporters we spoke with in south texas feel the president has been compassionate on this issue, and they actually
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blamed congress, not the president for not doing enough here. >> ed, thank you very much. appreciate it. voters in seven states are going to the polls among those on the ballot, mitt romney running for a senate seat in utah. details on that ahead. portable cd player. my high school rethainer. oh don't... it's early 90s sitcom star dave coulier... cut...it...out! [laughing] what year is it? as long as stuff gets lost in the couch, you can count on geico saving folks money. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.
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congressman michael grim who once threatened to throw a reporter off a congressional balcony. president trump has endorsed his opponent. polls in new york close at 9:00 p.m. mitt romney is favored. polls close at 10 p.m. time. that's it for us. time to hand it over to chris. >> all right. thank you, anderson. i am crisco mhris cuomo. it is on. the battle of us versus them that the president trump hits at every turn has become a fight for the soul of this country. the latest salvo from the right, the attorney general desperate to stay in president trump's goodish graces refers to democrats as radicalized as in the terrorism term. and cracked jokes about separating kids from their parents. congressman steve king upped the ante saying america may be
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